i noticed many of the neighbors standing in the street and in groups. i heard a gentleman say the war will be over in two weeks and another one said -- it was not only my calling but it was my duty eric it was my duty to serve my country. >> martha: a special man and he died peacefully in his home in bloomfield hills in michigan sunday. he was 100 years old. he was busy enjoying flying to realize that he was making history. we are so grateful for colonel stewart and his service that is the story for this thursday i'll see you tomorrow. ♪ ♪

a live from the heartland this is the will cain show although he's been a regular guest unscheduled guest here on the will cain show, president trump might be signing executive orders as he does regularly during the 4:00 our. we are monitoring this hour to see if he makes yet another appearance. until then in a few minutes texas governor greg abby will join me live he met yesterday with president trump at the white house but first blessed look at something to her foxes getting a firsthand look at president trump's border crackdown. hundreds of federal agents descending on aurora, colorado, to arrest more than 100 violent gang members believed to be in the area but it appears they may have been tipped off as many of the apartments were empty. vilma lucian was on the scene. this is the story it's incredible. >> yes will get afternoon. this infamy -- didn't go the way

the feds were hoping to their beliefs about it people knew they were coming they were going after 100 gang members in this our area but they only ended up arresting one of them. they feel it was because of those leaks at we were with them during the entire operation p take a look... >> god bless y'all. let's get back eyes off the street. come home safe everyone of you -- bad guy is. >> rallying the troops ahead of a massive federal operation in our colorado wednesday morning. several hundred agents from ice hsi, fbi and cbp all targeting alleged members of the venezuelan gang. >> what's the goal today? >> we go today to send a message that we're going to eradicate them from this country. there is no safe harbor.

there's no is no centroid for them. metro vancouver fox news joined a one team of agents who arrived at the apartment complex that went viral win gang members were seen on security video with g guns. >> what your back son. please open the door. police open the door. >> as they went door-to-door they found bloodstained walls but no gang members. the entire complex was virtually empty. at a second complex, ice was met by activists who taunted them. [bleep] what the [bleep] is wrong with you get out of our community. >> others use megaphones to coach those leading -- coax those inside. like winds. [speaking another language] >> reporter: they used flash

bangs while serving a warrant which led to a handful of arrests but no gang members. a stop at another apartment complex netted no arrests. >> it seems like they were tipped off they knew this was coming. so i get the impression there are some intel leaks and they probably knew we were coming but we are still coming. just because something leaks now and then it's not going to stop us. >> reporter: also on their radar this previously deported honduran the alien wished and -- with ping pending charges. >> at the [bleep] out of our neighborhood. >> while activists yelled outside agents recovered the stolen rifle from inside the man's home. officials told us they were help -- hoping to make triple digit arrests yesterday but at the end of the day they only made 30

arrests and only one of which was a confirmed gang member. he was on fox news earlier saying it was unacceptable they will investigate how it happened and will get to the bottom of it and he says is huge original issue that they know they are coming him we'll send it back to you. >> a point of cliff occasion at the beginning of your report i heard you mention immediately but saw mention intel leaks peer he just used various operational security that suggests something with the law enforcement are government could been the source of the leaks. what do no? >> for the media to have the information the government has to give it to them right so last week there were two media outlets who wrote articles announcing these rates were coming in the denver area.

in order to get the information sown in the government had to leak it to them. so yes somebody at the federal government leaked the information pretty much of benin in their kindness and point have -- feel the will will i file the will cain show should be filming a friend of a pond with ducks. thank you so much. >> at dona. >> will: you bet. our next guest has been extremely vocal on border security and just met with president trump at the white house yesterday. he is the governor texas greg abbott to see you. you just heard that report and you met with the president yesterday and border security is always at the front of your priority list. what can you tell us about what's happening right now in texas?

>> a lot. these are thanks i talked about yesterday with the president and i've authorized our national guard that's been on the border for about four years now they have the full authority to assist ice doing everything they would do such as apprehending back arresting, deporting and in addition to that the texas department of public safety is embedded with ice on operations across the entire state of texas to root out and arrest and attention and deportation of anyone here illegally. additionally what i offered to the president yesterday we identified 4000 jail sides that can house up to 4000 people let their arrest and detain to make sure the federal government we'll have access to all the facilities they need. also identified more than 100 miles of land texas acquired access to another the trump

administration can build a wall on. as well as we created toronto national guard military bases to hausman military offices peer so texas is all into assist the trump administration to ensure we will eliminate illegal immigration into the state of texas. >> will: i want to ask you about three reports directly connected to your power state. first of all reports of mexican drug cartel firing on law enforcement on the american side and also reports of weapon as drones used against border agents peer finally as a final detail the mexican government has suggested they are putting 10,000 federal agents on the border to help with illegal immigration have you seen evidence of that yet we. >> i'll take them all in turn know this first you sure the

recent shooting and use of drones texas dealing with the cartels the past for years. cartels have shot on national guard and public safety officers and we fired back on occasion. and we are in a hostile environment same thing goes with drones. they've been find them across our border and weaved her -- had drone paddles already. what we can believe is that no way to the cartel's ability to make money from traffic across the border has been hindered. they get more aggressive win that happens so we are anticipating the amount of cartel activity on the border are prepared to deal with. >> government to show us a jumbo what is a drawn battle?

>> -- drone battle? >> they were not weapon as and they were flying them over a border we are operating in. we would use drones to push them back. it was a drone to drone battle but one thing we need to be prepared for her weapon as drones. and also cartels use drones to drop off drugs and other comfort those contraband across the river all the time. so we are locating them and eliminating them as quickly as we can. >> i believe you recently gave your support they are open to the idea of legalizing gambling and texas. there's a lot of talk about that and a lot of it win it comes to support. to expect gambling to be legalized in texas? 's in texas gambling of any sort is unconstitutional and the only

way to is a constitutional amendment. so win i announced and supported his if the voters were to decide they wanted the court sports gaming that something i would be fine with. but is always that should be up to the people of the state of texas to be the decision. >> will: all right that's a vote of the people of texas to amend the constitution to move forward for that's to be a possibility. second business story meta is in talks to be in texas. the averting moved one of their teams to the lone star state. that's a lot of tech industry starting to move to texas. >> texas really is the home of. i mean deal in 2010 he moved all of his companies to the state of texas on i talked to marx or

hoover and in addition to that are now arriving and improving upon in delaware. what elon musk and zuckerberg and others have found out delaware cuts dish courts escape their mission for texas however they can have the type of decisions coming from reports that are thoughtful as a post-ideological. >> and perhaps listed on the forthcoming stock exchange peer i can tell you there are a few human issue who are moving here for drums peer we bring in

companies like meta or others from california have big of a concern do you have but a publishing a few limited texas that don't show the politics are values in texas. >> what we've seen there is a massive influx of conservatives in the tech industry making texas more conservative but people talk about the people moving here last talked about are the people who live away. texas is number 1 for people moving from california interestingly there people who leave taxes and go to california. if you moving from texas to california you know what you can yourself into it the california government. there are a lot of blue voters in the state of texas moving to california every year we call it

a big exchange program that we have. >> will: okay that's an interesting statistic i hadn't heard about. i don't know if it's the same with south carolina and florida and other states thank you for being with us governor. >> my pleasure. >> will: all right president trump doubling down on his plan to take over gaza we will talk to a former cia officer mike baker who was on the ground right now in the middle east but first to wall street where it was a rough day for stocks the dow closed down while the s&p 500 and nasdaq both rose for the third straight day peer more from the will cain show coming up. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ president trump doubling down on his idea to take over gaza. to create the riviera gaza he said the u.s. could develop one of the greatest and most spectacular developments of its kind without putting any u.s. troops in harm's way peer former cia covert operations officer mike baker is in the middle east right now joining us. hey, mike is being popped a long time. >> hey, how are you will good to see you. >> i'm good peer good to see a period so you are in the middle east out of you are an undisclosed location are if you could show but what are you hearing about this plan for the u.s. to take ownership interest in gaza create. >> their two asked her -- aspect here. from a creative thinking standpoint this problem has existed before generations and needs to be resolved so i say

let's throw everything on the table let's throw out everything we can think of but from an operational perspective of real-world perspective kayak it's never going to fly. is not going to work. but i get the idea that you're just tossing stuff at the wall if you can come up with something because up to this point nothing else has worked. demo the sea and all the efforts over the years none of that has made any difference to the lives of palestinians. >> will: but if everything in the past hasn't worked, what are you here to tell me today about why this certainly also will not work? >> well you need the buy-in of the key players and the key players out here are not the u.s., editor -- there the arab nations and of course residents of gaza. win you talk about living the

2.3 million palestinian residents of gaza to other locations so that you have a clear runway for ten to 15 year period spare all you had to duces of how the arab sees her work and you realize it's not going to fly. >> will: let me play devil's advocate for a moment. i knew win it comes to natural disasters i've seen this win it comes to fires for example maui. the long lead up it takes to rebuild means people have to live somewhere else temporarily. lives get built in places. is the sad reality to come back there was a chance the rest is i've seen stuff even about europe. at the end up in your.

does that change your equation at all? the on the ground reality you can't live in gaza perhaps for ten years. >> spend too much time out here in dealing with the real world there's no way to compare the residence militia -- other talking about moving to plenty palestinian refugees to jordan, jordan already has a large population of palestinian refugees and in his pushed back to they have to have their own state part of the reality in the security problems that could entail so

asked that that be extended to the cia as well. the entirety of the cia be offered a buyout. is that wise? >> well, part of this is the theater of it. all right. of

saying we're going to reduce the government workforce, which, by the way, percentage wise, you're not making you're not saving a lot of money. that's not where the costs are in the us government. but i get it. so from perspective, part of this is theater saying, look what we're doing. we're reducing the government workspace. so a number of people who would take this buyout, you know, they're already on their way out anyway, right? this is just an accelerant for them. they're making the decision. they've already made the decision to leave, so they're going to leave. from an operational perspective, from a national security perspective, you don't want to bum rush a lot of the people in the intel community out the door unnecessarily or too expeditiously, right? it is a very complex world out there. and you're talking about people with very specific skills and operational capabilities. so i think they need to be very careful. look, it's sort of the same situation with usaid if the messaging from the white house was and look, and i agree with them in terms of

government efficiency, it's about time. but the messaging from the white house, if they said, we're going to take a fine tooth comb to every dollar that the us government spends, and we're going to do it in a very judicious and efficient way, right. and then proceeded on that path. they would have the goodwill and the blessing of a vast majority of americans. but, you know, sometimes their messaging gets a little off and they go in there and they toss a hand grenade into the room, and then you get a lot of, of this confusion and chaos, right, which we saw during the first term. so, you know, i just sometimes i just wish that the they'd be a little more buttoned up on their messaging, still pursue the same ideas, but just do it in a way where they maintain the goodwill of all those people who would normally agree with them if it weren't for the chaos. >> well, not to debate you here, mike, today, but i appreciate a close examination, but in the past, it always feels like removing a mole from a dermatologist. and in this case, what i think we might all need to understand is you might need to you might need a meat cleaver to take off an entire

arm of the federal government. right. and so it's going. >> to take my point being, is, yeah, my point being with the cia and frankly, with the fbi too, you have to be careful, right? a lot of these people are doing incredibly, very important work. right. what are you going to do? you're going to decimate the, the operations group within the cia that that oversees china operations when china is our leading threat, you know, you so you have to be you have to be very careful about how you do it. i'm not saying you don't do it. i'm just saying be be measured and understand the complexity of it all. it's not just as simple as saying, hey, we're going to clean house. >> well, hopefully that entire department isn't the one that takes the buyout. to your point, mike, great conversation as always. thanks for joining us from over there. appreciate it mike. >> thank you. will take care man. >> all right. all right. the plot thickens blake lively facing another lawsuit. where is all this legal drama headed. we're going to sort it out. and why it matters next. >> ain't nothing but lies lies, lies. look into my eyes, eyes, eyes. i'm still a fool for you.

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reputation by sullying hers and now she named them so they sued her for defamation, do i have it? >> you got it. among a couple other lawsuits -- congrats on your new show. this case involving two high-profile celebrities usually ends up in what i call a hybrid lawsuit. what do i mean by that? is a cross between a bloodbath -- we are already seeing that. baldoni has all ready put together a website to release information against the blake lively. it's also a combination of a strategic chess battle. fm are presented blake lively i'm filing in right away what's called an anti-slap motion. motion to throughout the case, what does slap a mean? a significant limitation against public participation. i've faced a couple of those in california -- what that motion would do is tell the court this

relations company is filing a case to quell me, to silence me, stop me from talking about sexual harassment. i think she would have a reasonable shot of winning that case. i think her lawyers ought to be filing one also in new york in a federal case in new york against baldoni. >> will: i'm tight on time, i don't know -- it seems like this p.r. firm would have a legitimate defamation claim against lively if she did what they said she did to. why would that be slapped down so quickly, seems like there could be real damages to this p.r. firm. >> how are their real damages to the p.r. firm of what she is alleging is correct? we already have text messages and evidence from baldoni's pr team saying they're going to crush her, they are capable of crushing anybody in the country. baldoni's company hired a street

relations. i'm not saying she'll win on it but strategically it's in her benefit to file it. it forces them to come up with the evidence. it shifts the burden to streets to come up with evidence to support the lawsuit so she gets a free look, all the evidence in the case. >> will: bottom line it's all about defamation from one side to the other. who was lying about his reputation -- we'll try to keep up. thank you so much. democrats have a new favorite talking point, i'm good to tackle that in my big three, next. >> a shadow government, shadow government of the billionaires, by the billionaires and for the billionaires.

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♪ ♪ commit or equip more than 40,000 federal workers have resigned as the men that doesn't dine does deadline to accept terms of o2 has been pushed among a period to do the joins us from the white house period peter, a few more days to thank about if you want to take it. >> yes, and white house officials telling us they're

happy federal judge kicked the deadline another four days. there about more than halfway into their goal of hundred thousand workers. 60,000 have decided to take the buyout but there are some democratic concerns about this plan not being fully funded yet. >> we expect it to increase it will save the american people tens of millions of dollars. we encourage federal workers in this city to accept the generous offer. if they don't want to shut the office if they want to rip the american people off they are welcome to take this buyout. >> ahead of the fcc is now explaining trump cuts to staff and programs are just a federal line federal agencies with trim priorities. >> we look at u.s. usaid in particular its monitoring operation for everything from promoting divisive di to actually helping to fund some censorship cartel operations taking place across-the-board so it's very interesting this is

the place where democrats have decided to go to the ramparts. >> and something a follow up on yesterday's executive order protecting women in sports i just had a white house official send me an update to the ncaa's policies they can comply with new regulation and the new rule is that you can only compete in ncaa women's athletics if you are assigned female at birth but people assign mail at birth can still practice with the women's teams. well, that's interesting we are going to have to see what that means about walker -- locker room policies. no one cares if you practice i guess in a noncombative or noncontact sport but where do you change what team do you hang out with? my suspicion peter is this is not all sorted out yet think you so much. you heard in that report win it comes to these government cuts and a number of days now that

the new verbal tick on the left you are familiar with the text that develop over time the latest brings us to our big three. the left is pushing a new verbal tick shadow government. watch. we will not allow the shadow government that musk is leading to destroy government agencies that protect workers. >> we have been hijacked by a hostile shadow government. >> trump administration including the trump shadow government seems intent on dismantling much of the federal government. >> many of our republican colleagues are determined to stand up shadow government of the billionaires by the billionaires and for the billionaires. >> if you want to know how an unelected shadow government operates, look no further than

doge. >> those comments give credence to the idea they were never a threat to democracy but rather than concerned about the threat to democracy -- the accused in the musk of setting it up under donald trump and what i suggest is there shadow government in this government that has been there for over a century. it's typified by things like usaid who spend your money just as an example on thanks a $55 million to strengthen libyan financial management process. $29 million for young female egyptians and manufacturing p pick. six and a half million dollars to aid an activity in bangladesh and on and on 3.5 million for lgbtq2ai in the caribbean. but here's the key about this shadow government, it always remains. it's always there. it's unaccountable matter who is the president no matter who is elected to congress these career bureaucrats remain.

yesterday on the digital show at noon fox news.com i spoke to former congressman ron paul about doge. >> the for the first time ever we actually seen substantial cutback of the behemoth? >> yes, and no there will be cuts but i think the problem is bigger than they are willing to admit. trump the other day said something he says they're going to be some rough spots its not going to be all easy. that is an understatement because i look at $36 trillion worth of debt spending deficit i believe that ml investment comes from the deeply -- deeply thought monetary policy -- deeply flawed you won't get away the spending that money. >> you can watch the rest of the conversation on spotify or apple are a fox news youtube or fox news.com. his point is well taken this is a start. he see the real shadow government is the one that

always exists in washington. it isn't simply concerned with lgbtq2ai issues in the caribbean, there is a bigger issue at play and that is also illustrated by usaid. all the programs were designed to control your mind. they were pushing advertising boycotts against conservative media and were funding education ideas in foreign countries that push their ideology. they made you think you are insane and in the minority while funding projects that were actually radical pair the whole thing was a huge sigh often continues to be fair despite our conversations earlier on this program its going to take a meat cleaver to cut all of this out of the federal government. this is the real shadow government. i want to bring in the ceo of the watchdog group open the books. and organization trying to expose government spending. he wrote a letter asking to elon musk to work with them in

his quest for transparency he said it's time to build america's checkbook. john hart joins me a thank you for being with me. talk about some of what you expect to beast -- expect to see in the opening of the books. >> thanks for having me for here's an idea elem musk can use to silence critics and empower citizens, it's to allow taxpayers to see what he can see right now. the reality is all the money he has access to that is not the property of a government it's not the property if elon musk are president trump or congress it's the property of american taxpayers and we the people. every individual american has the same right to access why we call america's checkbook as they do their own personal checkbook. imagine what would happen if we give taxpayers the opportunity to look at money as it was going out the door. let them sign up for their own fraud alert personalize it let them sign up for low balance alert then when you see money go to things like vital infrastructure are cancer

research and then a drag show for ecuador let them choose what they want more are less of win you give transparency to the public they put the pressure and force the change. >> will: i am reasonably confident the american people would not be excited to even know what doge is uncovering so far. even on the media side of their left-wing media groups is this what you think taxpayers want? >> well win i worked for senator coburn we teamed up with a senator named barack obama. online for the first time called usa spending for the problem is we can't access a quick enough to see what's going out the door that's why we are asking elon musk to work with our organization open books to speed up the process and let taxpayers see their own checkbook. this is america's checkbook and

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involved in "the will cain show." he did a deep dive on south africa's new expropriation act. he joins me now. we are going to apply it to america. we are not going to stick with south africa because i think there is an application to america, but let's first clarify this expropriation act and what is happening in south africa. >> yeah, first, i don't really blame marco rubio for not wanting to go down there. the current leaders of south africa, these people who love communism, who openly celebrate zimbabwe's robert mugabe, the guy who killed tens of thousands of citizens, these are people i wouldn't want to go to dinner at their house, much less have a conversation about how to run the world. expropriation act is something the current government has been trying to get in since about 2018 and as they have been doing this they have said this is a revolution or policy and what it essentially does is allows them to take money from -- take land from farmers without giving them anything in return, with zero compensation.

so they have been bragging about this, this is going to change south africa forever, it is going to be amazing. and trump comes back, marco rubio, says this is going to be a revolutionary policy that might change south africa forever, actually, no, no, it is something we will never use again. >> will: we should say the reason, the justification in south africa is the population is 7% white and 70% of the land is owned by whites, the course they used to have apartheid, so they are calling it racial justice to expropriate this land. you had a fascinating conversation when you talked about the underlying motivation, though, is revenge. like what is happening is is taking out revenge on people who are related to the people of the past. >> yes, this is a conversation i had. it really is about settling old racial scores. so the truth is these are people who are deeply -- have been doing stuff like this since they came to power in the '90s. we assumed that ever since apartheid and ended that

everything was racial harmony all the way down down in south africa. it has been a pretty brutal place to live, especially for these farmers. yes, a lot of this and land is owned by white south africans, specifically boers, which is a word that literally means farmers, but yes, it is farmlan. this is land their time to take back and most of these places, they are not going to take over the land and keep farming, right up to my friend from south africa he said his family has been there since the 1600s, so this is not something that started back in the 1980s and can now be totally regressed within one generation. >> will: i think that underlying philosophical motivation of revenge is something you have to then apply back home to america when it came to many of these dei policies. dressed up as opportunity and underlying a sense of revenge. i want to move to this really quickly with you, wade. sean duffy, our department of transportation secretary, is telling hillary clinton to sit

out after she has come after him inviting d.o.g.e. into the d.o.t. quick back and tubby's is big news, talked to the d.o.g.e. team, going to plug in and upgrade our aviation system, to which other clinton says they have no relevant experience, most aren't old enough to rent a car and you are going to let them mess with airline safety? duffy response, madam secretary, without the respect, experienced washington bureaucrats are the reason our info structure is crumbling. you need to sit this one out. won, wade? >> [laughs] i think it is pretty clear. what i love is that we live in a world now where hillary clinton, the most hillary clinton has, the most power she has is just tweeting a bunch of nonsense. so the people in real power have the authority to say to sit down. she is in a position now that conservatives have been in for most of my life, for all of my life, really. all she can do sit back and go wow, that is crazy, why doesn't somebody stop her, stop him? now she is just living in this norman desmond, sunset boulevard, waiting for her

close-up, and it is never going to come, which is terrible news for her but great news for the rest of humanity. >> will: great news for america. we are going to be doing more with wade. thanks so much. it is timely and nighttime quickly now for will of the people i'm excited to see the new studio, hoping you ditch the suit, we'll see about that, go full on texas, music and everything. victoria says a new drinking game. drink each time will cain says "the will cain show." i wish you luck, you will be drunk, i'm working on it. finally, ncaa women's basketball teams have been practicing against men all the time, it's not anything new. i know pat summit in tennessee did that. i get it. we, "the will cain show," will be live from new orleans tomorrow ahead of the super bowl and before that i will be on "fox & friends," along with tom brady. we will see you tomorrow from new orleans. now, "the five." ♪ ♪ >> jesse: hello, everybody. i'm jesse watters along with