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♪ ♪ >> hello america i'm mark levin this is "life, liberty & levin" saturday honored guest here prime minister of israel benjamin netanyahu. how are you, sir? >> i'm terrific. especially after this week in washington with president trump. >> you've had a great week in washington. i think the world has had a great week in washington. this is probably in all of my years watching israel united states relations, the pinnacle. why is it? is it you and trump chemistry and on the same page? why do you think that is? >> i think president trump is the greatest friend that israel has ever had in the house. i think he's not only making a tremendous change in the israeli american alliance strengthening it beyond anything we've seen up to now. but also he's a great leader for america and the world and all of that comes to comes together in this meeting between two great allies.

america and israel. israel has no better friend than america. now under president trump's leadership, and america has no greater friend than israel it's a meeting of the minds and hearts. mark: president trump comes into office he sees what took place before i don't to drag you into our world sees what's taken place before with weapons -- being withheld other things taking place. and he seems to say i'm going to turn the page on this. >> he did right away. mark: i know bb netanyahu you two are friends. you have the same principles and he acts immediately, right? >> instantaneously what he did in the first two weeks is to -- to do everything that he promised to do. he did great things in the first term he recognized our capitol moved american embassy there, the recognize our about sovereignty and got out of the disaster iran deal. brokered the abraham accords

made peace for four arab states in four states in 25 years. so he was a great leader then but he started now the second term, you know, he had the topic right so he got from the delivery of weapons that were being held -- withheld to us finding seven war front war for our existence against our common enemies against anti-semitism he went against the icc this corrupt so-called international core that targets america. targets israel, targets democracies, listen, it's a great beginning. and a restart a recalibration of our great alliance. mark: let's talk about this restart. since october 7th that brutal assault on the israeli people. a lot of things changed in the middle east. i mean, you defeating hamas they're almost finished. look at hezbollah they're on their backs he took on them and

houthis getting help in my opinion from the rest of the world -- and then iran. iran is as weak as it's ever been in half a century since that -- since revolution took place. was that the idea early on or did that kind of develop? that is we're going take hamas maybe then hezbollah or do things just sort of evolve? >> look, i said on october 8th, that is a day after we had the horrible massacre worst attack on jews. since the holocaust where monsters came in murdered 2800 people beheaded our men burned our babies alive. these monsters, you know, they had to be hit but i said in the same day, after this horrendous assault i said we'll change the middle east. and i was eyeing iran. i can't tell you i had it all. sewn up but i knew first we take

hamas. then we go for hezbollah these are two -- the two of this toxic iranian octopus but ultimately i knew we were facing iran. so we tear down the iran access that is what we proceeded to do we finished hamas turned to the north, to hezbollah. surprise them with -- i give president trump a gold plated pager because i know he likeses initiative surprises, he likes to surprise the world well we surprise the world and we certainly surprise our enemies. i thought he should have that, and i think he appreciated that. but we turned we did the pagers on hecks. hezbollah then we have the market arsenal over decades, then we got. and i decided he had knob knocked out because he was the access of the iranian access. and if we knock him out we

deal -- devastating blow to iran's axis that's what we did syria collapsed right after that. so most of the iran axis has been dealt has been decimated. we still have an issue. president when i discussed it. iran quest for nuclear weapons they cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons. we both agree on that. we also have to finish off what we had with hamas while he try to get all of our hostages out we agree on all of that, and that's a point of agreement that makes us both a lot more powerful when there's no daylight between an american president and israeli prime minister, that strengthens our hand. it shortens military conflicts it allows us to achieve a quick victory to change the middle east. that's what we've been doing together with president trump, we can change the course of history. we can get more peace agreements. we can have a broader lasting

peace. that's what president trump and our partnerships brings to the equation. mark: and yet as an observer you're from the united states watching° this period of time you had a lot of people disagreeing with you. even in your own cabinet your national security cabinet, they would pop off publicly come to the united states come around your back or somebody in the united states would come to them and go around your back just somebody observing. your press was very anti-many of the measures you were taking. and yet you were steadfast about it. how do you -- and i've asked president trump about this too. how do you muscle through a situation you've taking on your enemies foreign and domestic yet you feel your right turns out you were 100% right. >> first of all i have a what president trump called the secret weapon. i have sarah. my wife, and my two boys they back me and they give me -- but it is not really my

immediate family but also my family, my fathers heritage, it is a great jewish -- brother who fell rescuing hostages. in the airport 197 6 and history of our people and the strength of our people the courage of our soldiers these amazing warriors, brave warriors who understand that the jewish people after 3,000 years more -- of, you know, of them having to state losing our country being, you know, massacred as no people has been before in the greatest massacre of all nazi holocaust that this is the chance that we've been given. and we're not going to blow this chance. and we're not going to end jewish history because of the ayatollah and various proxies we have to fight and win and that's exactly what they've doing they're so brave. i'm so proud of them. i'm proud of our people i'm proud of our soldiers.

and i think that i think that in america most of the american people, they understand that. mark: yet because you israeli people have been successful, i mean you're up against it. this is has been a horrific period of time -- you've turned it around and so many incredible ways. you see the growing anti-semitism all over the world in the united states and in our universe it is funded a lot by qatar and by some of these other countries. it's being funded a lot through hamas and so forth, is that because it's okay if you're jewish and you lose and you're a victim -- but if you're jewish you're a warrior and you win that's not so good? >> that's because the nations of the world have been accustom to the jews as a perfect victory. once we lost our land, we were there for 2,000 years before we lost it.

we never lost the longing to go back to our resuscitate jerusalem rebuild our national sovereignty we never lost that we said every year in exile next year in jerusalem next year in jerusalem we rebuilt it and in the years that we were in dispersion powerless like wind tossed leave and massacre us, they can exile us. they can conduct, assault so people became used to the jew not as a warrior not the joshua -- samson, david, the maccabees of old we were now from a nation that produced unbelievable heros that you read about in jewish history and in the bible. we became a nation of -- victims. we were the perfect victim and if you're the perfect victim, you can only be pitied everybody

will pity you and knob will criticize when you israel came back and jewish people rose and restore and rebuilt our army that is defied all expectations and defeated enemies a hundred times our size, you know, there's a historical adjustment you have to make to the picture of the jew. from the perfect victim to the victorious warrior, that's a tough one. for the world to -- to accept so easily. so yes, it is a problem. but i'll tell you it is not my problem. i don't seek wars i seek to end wars but if a war is on us we will defeat them and we'll achieve total victory over them no question about that. mark: again as an observer in the united states and a hostage issue, i notice there's a movement in your country, i personally recall this far left movement in the country much of it's organized by your opposition much of it is funded

by billionaires in our country and other countries. sort of this dark money that comes in. you're blamed for the hostages if something is stopped, negotiations are a problem, it is not hamass hamass that takint it's you including in our newspapers in many of yours too i look at the english versions -- what is that like in other words there you are -- you're the commander in chief you know what's going on more than the rest of us. you're fighting like hell to get hostages out but you can't just give the enemy everything they want. and then it's you -- you're the one staying in the way of the release of the hostages what's that? >> that's false of the ones keeping them in the dungeons hamas terrorists. it is not me. and in the beginning of the war, people said including senior most senior defense officials they said, we're not going to get any of the hostages out we have to assume that's not going to happen. i said no. we're going to fight hamas.

and at the same time we're going to release the hostages. and that's essentially what we've been doing up to now. i never gave up on them and by the end of next week probably have about 75% of the living hostages also holding bodies as hostage these are monsters if but we're going to get 75% of the living hostages out which i intend to get all of them out so there's a lot of lives. how do you deal with all of this fake news? you know it is leak like a torrent of fake news so i just said hell with it. don't deal with it. just do what you have to do and we have three wars in gaza, one, destroy hamas's military and governing capabilities. two, get all of the hostages out, three, make sure that gaza never poses a threat to israel again. and i'm committed to achieving all three. i don't care what they say i just do what i do and you know the people in israel, the public -- they're used to they've been exposed to fake news.

they get it. mark: i read your papers english version, and i see -- your polls are -- shooting through the roof. so would appear that israeli people like what you're doing with president trump and like what you're doing really to transform the middle east. no? >> yeah that's true. yeah the real poll. that's so many fake polls like here -- you know, i saw this fake poll in iowa that you had here. the president trump was backing -- you know like a i don't know what it was. mark: 16 points. >> that's exactly what you have in the fake polls in israel that are -- you know, other than competent and the recent election gives me that advantage continuously and especially now. and so that's, you know, that's just confirming what i'm telling you. the people get it. they get it that they were lied to by a lot of our media. they said there's no problem

hamas is not a real problem. and iran, you know, i had years i had to fight and warn against iran and sometimes stood alone not only against the world. and against u.s. administrations, not trump i have to say. but other administrations. but sometimes against my own, you know, in my own circle and my other security circle you know don't overrate don't exaggerate with iran and now everybody sees that it is iran. now everybody sees it is hamas they see it. and they sort of appreciate the fact that i did not waiver. that i, you know, i carried this thing i carried ball where we have to carry it. basically to two goals. one, make sure that iran doesn't have nuclear weapons. not only for israel. you don't want a world where these mad ayatollah have nuclear weapons and means to deliver them not only against us but europe against you you don't want that.

and the second thing is destroy hamas. and there's wide agreement on this i have to tell you. i'm pleased to see that also in washington. not only with the president that's obvious and his people that's obvious too but i saw it in capitol hill not just on the republican side i was pleased to see that. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ mark: in this country, there's a lot of people who still wonder what role if any, saudi arabia had on 9/11 now there's a lot of talk about saudi arabia peace with saudi arabia, and then you read in the papers well saudi arabia says yes. but this is they have a caveat there needs to be a palestinian state since when did the palestinians become so important that saudi arabia? >> we've got the abraham accords because we went around the palestinians because palestinians whether they're hamas or they're a competitors -- the palestinian authority, they both want to see the end of israel only difference is hamas is let's use it by immediately by military means and other guys others say do it by the law fair and withdraw to this indefensible lines where we're nine miles wide president trump

says really is too small he cuts to the chase and gets right to the point which is right while we can't be any smaller we're not going to have the -- these, you know, an organization that is committed to our destruction. nine miles from the sea all they have to do is cut us in half and we're dead. so yeah that's something that may have been debated in israel but after, after october 7th after the massacre, that's gone. nobody is going to do that. nobody is going say oh give them a palestinian state. they just had one. it is called gaza. under hamas -- that was ineffective palestinian state what happened with that used as a spring board attempt to destroy us. when we complete the -- changeover of the middle east, when we cut the iranian access down to even further than we've cut it then we make sure that iran doesn't have nuclear weapons, when we destroy hamas that will set the stage for an

additional agreement with saudis with others i believe also in the muslim world because it's -- it's peace through strength. when we're very storm and we stand together, objections that are raised now is insurmountable sort of change. that happened in the first term. you know, to you looked at what some of our air partners were saying or conditions they had for the abraham accords it is never going happen. now, it did happen. because we had such a strong partnership, and i'll tell you i, you know, i don't to get into all of the verbal exchanges they're not important. if we're strong, if we're victorious, peace will come. more peace will come. and it will sweep the day. i have no doubt about that. mark: mr. prime minister president trump come up with a plan for gaza which is quite revolutionary, people having opportunity to move about -- cleaning up the territory.

about encouraging or more than encouraging egypt and jordan to take gazan what do you make of all of that? >> i think -- that president trump's proposal is the first fresh idea in years and it has the potential to change everything in gaza. otherwise we can keep coming back to the same thing over and over same old same old same old. you know, we leave gaza becomes again reopened by terrorists we use that as a base to attack israel. and he comes forward and he says let's have a new idea. by the way, i've seen them do this time and again he cuts to the chase he asked you these things that says things -- that people find jarring initially and then i said they scratch their heads. they say you know what, he's got a point here. and sometimes this time too they say he's right. because it happened many times so it's happened this time too. what is gaza? gaza is basically a small area next to 25 miles from tel-aviv.

which hamas is used as a spring board for continuous attacks terrorist attacks against israel. we come come in, we slap them sk them and we leave -- and then we do it again and we -- they do it again we do it again. doesn't go anywhere. now, we did something else. we're going to finish hamas off. and what happens then? do you leave people there with all of that devastation? do you say well -- you know, they have to stand con fired because nobody lets them leave everybody describes gaza as the biggest open air prison in the world you know why? because they're not allowed to leave therefore you know they're getting more and more densely populated overtaken time and time again by these terrorist in come president trump he says, hey, open the gate. let them leave. and i'll find a final destination for temporary

relocation i'll clean up this devastation site. devastation caused by the fact that hamas was fighting from densely populated areas and forced us to take action. also devastated by their booby-traps they put there in every house they get to a lot of this is self-inflicted. so you know, get the population out. allow them to leave. not forcible eviction. getting people out of what all of these country or do gooders say is open air prison why keeping them in prison? all that president trump is saying i'm going to open the gate and give them an option to relocate temporarily while we rebuild the place physically. and while we also rebuild it in terms of deradicallization you want to come back you have to disavow terrorism you have to get, you know, arab country website gulf countries and others to finance, reconstruction they say they

care about gaza okay here's a chance to prove it. i think this is a novel approach in the correct approach, it is got details that have to be sorted out but two things that president trump -- has been blamed for are totally false. he never said he wants american troops to do the job. guess what, we'll do the job. you know, hamas attacked us. we'll take care of them we'll finish them on. and second thing, he didn't say that american taxpayers money is going to do the job. he said he would get independent finances for it i'm sure he will. so i think this is a very, very good new approach. and rather than discounting it or -- deriding it, i think we should pursue it because i think it is the right approach, of course, you have to get the destination so they can relocate somewhere. i think that's the real issue that is involved here but once you give them the option they'll leave you know how i know that?

because i got request before the war for people who wanted to leave. but they were locked. because their neighbor egypt wouldn't open the door. that's the truth. and you know something, some of the -- bribe the gate keepers not ours. but the gate keepers they want bribe them so very rich got out but those who wanted to leave couldn't leave give them an option. give them an option i think that's just the right thing to do.

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liberty & levin." ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ mark: let me ask you this >>:dou find in dealing with steve witkoff and other individuals in the trump administration, that you're having sort of an easier better conversations with them and you're coming from sort of the same place when you talk with these folks? >> let me say that i think he's built a great team around him really a great team. the reports that i read that steve witkoff came and muscle me to this deal completely false. we had a real -- not only friendly but eye to eye conversation and what happened was that i had accepted this second deal, months ago -- hamas refused the deal set all conditions we'll only release 12 hostages no i said at least

double that we're getting more than double. 25 live hostages. they said you have to leave the philadelphia corridor that's the place that prevents adjoins egyptian border that's the way where they have these smuggling tunnels i said no that's not going to happen they said phase one you get out, i said that's not going to happen and that's why we didn't have a deal because they insisted hamas -- on terms that no saying israeli government could accept, but when trump came in, the pressure that he put was on hamas to accept it. i didn't have to move a nanometer but hamas that caved in but the press described it incorrectly no steve was fine we work very well together and i'm sure we'll continue to work very well together. mark: you remind me of something. you talk about the philadelphia corner these are places you were advised not to go you were told

too many citizens killed and we're going to withhold certain weapons from you you're not to do this and you're saying i have to do this and i have to defeat these people. tell us about that. >> look, first of all i appreciate the support we got at the beginning initial phases of the war. when president biden came to israel that was important. he also gave us weapons -- and initially i appreciate that as well and we had their help in air defenses later in the war against iran i appreciate that. while i tell you what happened -- you know, after the initial support, as the hamas prop propa was spreading through the american compasses american media and so on accusing israel of false charges we were starving the people committing war crimes, this -- this charade of this absurd charges people took them seriously so pressure began to be built on the u.s. administration as on european

governments to change their position from initial support to try to block israel advance to finish the war. to beat hamas. and at a certain point we had destroyed about 80% of their fighting battalions there's still 20% on a place called rafah that's in the south, and basically u.s. said to me don't go in there. i said, well, that's like telling them -- allied armies and world war ii, they concurred 80% of germany don't go the other leave 20% of the german army intact and don't go into berlin would you have accepted that? mark: no. >> they said if you go in we'll stop the weapons. and you know, and i said but -- i have to go anyway. and we have some tough conversations. and i said in my cabinet, individual opinion. and people said, and we're dependent on american arms i

guess we can't go in let's stop thes war now. that means leaving hamas in place. leaving hezbollah in place. and all of their leaders are alive american axis has an amazing victory i said we can't do that if we accept that weapons will take care of themselves. i said to one of the senior american officials -- it's fine don't give us the weapons we'll find with our fingernails. we'll fight with our fingernails that's what i tolded cabinet weapons will take care of themselves we'll fight with what we have. but if we become a state we will not survive the strong survive. those who are willing to fight for their survival and their freedom it should become a vessel style you won't survive so we went in and now they said to us if you go in, you know, because we cleared civilian population of gaza as we went

along concurred gaza, they concentrated in place called rafah. 1.4 million people in rafah. and we were told they have no place to go. i said, yeah. they have a place to go. two miles from there on the beach humanitarian zone they'll all go there. well, guess what happened. when we started the operation in rafah, it took us six days, six days all of them went out, you know, all of them 1.4 million people walked two miles to a safe zone on the beach we killed about 2700 terrorists on the 3,000 terrorists and practically no civilians because they all left exactly as we asked them to do and hamas was no more able to prevent them from leaving the battle zones so we cleared them out and prevented civilian

casualties and we are 20 because there was a stray bomb that hit a secret hamas ammunition dump, 20 terrorists were killed 20 civilians killed but other than that -- we just killed terrorists we didn't kill civilians. ♪

>> am i right or wrong that a lot of arab nations are rooting for israel? that is they want nothing to do with iran they have to do with iran surrogates honestly taking palestinians. but i notice when the fighting began and everything, they didn't join in to help iran or hezbollah or anybody else for that matter. i don't you to reveal anything that's vet but i get that feeling that a lot of these countries are rooting for you, you know? >> what is said publicly what is said priefltly are two thing different things, obviously, but they understand.

i have noticed a change already before the abraham accords and saw a change they recognize their enemy is not israel. but israel is really their ally against their real enemy which is iran and its various proxies. they get it. they got it that's how we got the abraham accords we needed somebody to broker it finish the job which is what president trump did. and it is the same thing now. you know, they understand that the threat is iran. and its proxies much wounded much diminished, some of them decimated but the equation hasn't changed but, of course, i won't quote this or that leader. give them their space for deniability. mark: you mention civilian casualties. expert after expert john spencer a man from west point who is an expert on these issues. that israeli military has done more than any military in the history record to protect

civilians of an enemy country or enemy entity. and yet they keep that propaganda going cnn they use it all oft world that's got to be so frustrating because i think this helps drive the anti-semitism, no? >> you're absolutely right it is a web of lies. for example, they declared me in the -- this kangaroo court called icc they declared me a war criminal, right? and what am i charged with? that we deliberately starved the population of gaza, all right, which is completely false we gave instructions early on to get them out of harm's way but to also supply humanitarian supplies like food, water, whatever. but here's the thing. we took thousands, thousands of palestinian/hamas prisoners you know what the first thing when you attack a prisoner a palestinian, hamas prisoner yowpts --

you want to make sure he doesn't have an explosive belt on his -- suicide belt. okay, so you asked them to take their shirts off. so now we have photos of thousands of these -- of these prisoners who have, you know, without their shirt. and you will not find one not one emaciated quite a few overweight because they eat and no starvation also they don't exercise. you don't get much exercise in the tunnels and terror towns they built so this is completely false. it's -- it's outrageous these charges in the press are outrageous and where they come from international criminal court it is outrageous not only because they compare israel democratic country which has the highest standards of fighting just war with just means, and they compare us to this monstrous terrorist organization of hamas. it is not only because of that.

it's -- outrageous because it charges are false. so you've got this, this assault coming in from law fair one side international law fair and other side international media, american media, it is outrageous i just met with a group of leading american journalists. and i said you know, it is your job to get to the facts. you can't buy this nonsense. ♪ ♪

>> i think the bulk of the american people from repeated surveys that i've seen they get it. they get it about 80% of them say it. they side with israel. it is still unbelievable the 20% side with hamas. but that's the problem of your colleges, your elite universities, i mean they're unrecognizable i went to one of them. you know, i went to good american high school we both went to the same -- very good high school in these days i don't know what happens since. i think we had a third alumni reggie jackson. [laughter] so -- produce something. produced i don't know about the two of us. but these were fine schools and then i went to m.i.t. attended courses at harvard. what happened? i mean they've been --

they've been poisoned with this anti-semitism with this anti-americanism. with this deranged world culture what is this? get back, america. get back to where you represent the hope -- the hopes and the prayers of most of humanity most of the people understand that americans a force for good we israel in certainly understand that i think most americans understand that about america and they understand that america has no greater ally than israel. israel is america's greatest ally. america is clearly the greatest ally we have. but israel is the greatest ally of america we give america invaluable intelligence. i'll tell you something. not only that, i mean we have some -- unbelievably fine technologies, and what we learn in the

battlefield weapons that we develop, we share with our american brothers. here you have an ally, that's willing to fight, you know, we're fighting our fight but in doing so we're defeating your enemies our victory is your victory. and you -- we carry the load. you know, with our brave soldier brave commanders our people that stand strong. i'll tell you you go around the middle east, you know who the greatest support and the one country that solidly brought america is and you know what the next country is -- mark: there isn't one. which is called iran. >> yeah. but people of iran are yearning for day where that regime can finished. and when they can, you know, when they can express their support not only for america but for israel. you know, i do this videos every few months i do a video for the people of iran. i speak to them. you know, broadcast it to iran.

you know how many views we get? millions. millions. and some of them respond i couldn't believe this. they respond with their names and they're so frustrated. you know, they just throw caution to the winds because they hate this regime. they want to see a different world, and if you by cutting the iran axis down by size and getting nuclear weapons a new hope of freedom, not only to us and to our abe arab neighbors but that's you know the whole thing change when is israel and america see eye to eye when there's no daylight between us, endless possibilities.

mr. prime minister, special forces, your brother died, bring hostages, commander-in-chief,

houston fantastic things for your country. there's been an element that keeps investing in you, prosecuting, literally wants to put you in prison and then i read the other day they are going after missus netanyahu, investigating her. the united states would look at this and say it's like trump. they went after him and try to put him in prison except your case, you are the sitting prime minister. under our constitution, what your president, that's it. once you are prime minister, they increase the attacks. >> they are not going to succeed. we will defeated and i'll tell you something, it's the same thing. they can't win elections, we keep winning elections all the time despite horrible press and the witchhunt. we keep winning so there's only one way, they will stick you with false charges for my trial

for years, it's falling apart. one thing i wanted, i just wanted one thing. let's have live television coverage of the trial. the minute the trial started, they stopped covering it because flowing to bits. twenty-three judges called prosecution and they said it got to drop the bribery charge, it's falling apart and then they didn't even hear all of the witnesses or whatever so it's falling apart, it's in shambles. it's become a joke but it does into my time but i'm not deterred, we are going to win this thing and it's week. people see through all of it the way they saw it here, to. >> they are doing something probably as low as it gets, going after your wife's. that is unbelievable. >> extraordinary, you're right. he want to get to me so you hurt

my loved ones. i wouldn't be here without sarah and the support of my two boys is not going to work. she is a lioness, lion of judah. she's so strong. she gives me strength. >> we are all rooting for you, we are excited here in the united states about this relationship between the trump of administration in your administration. every day something positive in the media about what's taking place and i'm sure our common enemies, concerned and upset as they possibly can be and that's a good thing but thank you for everything you're doing. >> thank you. in >> see you next time on life, liberty and levin. ♪ ♪ >> welcome to one nation