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>> let's look live at senate park, our nation's capital. it's rowdy as you listen to this already and it is not officially begun. the house minority leader hakeem jeffries, democratic lawmakers, unionist federal employees, railing against president trump and elon musk's actions to reshape the federal workforce, and particularly cut the massive spending. this is "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner with my cohost emily compagno. also joining us today, dr. nicole saphier, fox news contributor and board-certified position -- so she can fix all things. and rosanna scotto, host of "good day new york" on fox five and "the underground economy" fox nation. guy benson is here, fox news contributor and host of "guy benson show" on fox news radio. while democrats continue to relentlessly protest president trump's department of
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government efficiency agenda, doge, two of his most notable executive actions are heating up to become major legal fights. terms federal worker buyout and his freeze on federal grant money have both been halted by federal judges. they get an extension, those employees, whether they want to stay working at home or take the buyout. now accused of being -- and disturbing grant money. alexandria half reports from washington. >> good to be with you. the administration's overall legal battles is that the government has the right to manage its spending and workforce to. they should a temporary ruling that stops the president's federal by a program, at least for now. the buyout is a downsizing effort that gives federal workers the opportunity to resign with pay and benefits -- >> breaking news. president trump is welcoming the
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king and crown prince -- of jordan. they are visiting the white house today. let's see if this yields anything. >> are you confident that you can get this on board -- how stinging people? we've cut off aid to jordan if he doesn't? [inaudible response] >> we can tell you typically, because you know that we cover these visits all the time with foreign leaders coming in to meet the current president. the question that was asked would not necessarily be answered in this venue because it's a follow-up, but we will get more later. the meeting in the oval office has no cameras, but we will get notes and potentially some play out of whatever portion is shared. are key u.s. ally this kind of
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in the middle. they have been tested by the gaza war and are being pushed to the breaking point by the president's plans for piece, namely the very popular support for palestinians at home in georgia versus trump's idea to root them out, let us fix the war-torn territory without the threat of anybody from hamas still being left in the gaza strip. there is a lot going on. that meeting is one to watch and we will monitor it for sure. i want to bring back alexandria half with worn out from washington. >> thank you. the president has a lot to focus on internationally, but so much domestically as well, especially with these court rulings challenging the major executive actions he has taken. we were talking about yesterday how a federal judge in boston issued a temporary ruling that stops the president's federal bio program for now. that could change. the buyout was a downsizing effort given federal workers the opportunity to -- resign with pay and benefits continuing through december 30th.
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approximately six to 5,000 federal workers have taken this deal, so where they are at is in limbo. the lawsuit was brought on by unions represent and workers, claiming the administration lacks the authority to make such an offer. the president thinks his plan will prevail. >> i got elected on making government better, more efficient, smaller, and that's what we are doing. i think it was a generous buyout, actually. >> another judge in rhode island demanded compliance with his pause the friending funding to look for fraud but a judge says you have to find fraud and then pause funding. they say -- seeking out fraud and waste -- only seems to anger those in the d.c. bubble. >> elon, come here and faces. bring your belief over here. >> elon musk needs to keep his greedy, grubby hands off of our. >> among the blue hairs and the
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opinion writers in washington, we are losing. we are winning with the american people. >> doge efforts to limit its binning on overhead costs for nih research was halted by a federal judge. today, elon musk called that decision deeply wrong, harris. >> alexandria, thank you very much. doge. it's a noun and a verb. [laughter] >> i love how they are going after elon musk's billionaire status. like some of these congresspeople and senators never embraced anybody. >> nancy pelosi. >> forget about nancy pelosi. maxine waters, who was just did not protest. she was throwing kisses to sandbank for him and freed -- sam bankman-fried when he showed up in washington, d.c. the brooklyn detention center after what, defrauding a million people out of billions? how about soros humectant joe biden before he left award or give his son --
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>> alexander. >> a medal of honor for his dad? and his dad supposedly is behind a lot of these bail reforms, cities including new york city are now dealing with repetitive criminals, in and out, revolving door crime in new york city. it is a joke that they should go after elon musk and think that he's doing this because he is going to make money? he doesn't need their money. >> now, but he is looking out for hours. can we had that for one second with george soros? i don't think he gets talked enough about. when you talk about -- going after somebody's money. our penal system at this point could have merged with his name on it for all the people who are walking three. >> a lot of the d.a.s or put in by george soros and his money. >> here's the irony that i see. as we pay the salaries of the irs agents that have full access to our auditing and -- how is it
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that the government is 100% funded by our income? why can't we have transparency and visibility into those books? the judges coming out, there's one in boston -- freeze the buyout of federal employees, and one in rhode island that says they will freeze the funding, foreign aid funding, until fraud is confirmed. what's interesting is i feel that's a knife's edge decision. when judges have decisions before, they essentially say this benefit cost analysis, where is the reversible -- when i'm hearing and that decision is essentially it would be worse to stymie funds than it would be to continue funding the entire universe except for ourselves. at the end of the day, the nexus lies in the appropriations in congress. that goes to both cases, meaning congress appropriate to those funds for the positions, but it's the federal government that can say "this is being used poorly. that's why we are shutting off."
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>> we have breaking news. a huge protest going on, led by the top democrat in the house, hakeem jeffries. >> so appreciative of his leadership and partnership, strength, resilience. after he finished his remarks, i was tempted to get up here and say "let the church say amen," because he has brought a word on today. we are standing in solidarity with each and every one of you with this incredibly fragile time and going to make sure we crossed the street to make it clear -- on the civil service, the attack is unacceptable, unconscionable.
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everyone of those unlawful executive orders, until they are fully and completely reverse. never to rise again. now, i stand with all of you, having grown up. born in brooklyn hospital. raised in a working-class neighborhood in central bro brooklyn. i grew up in a union household. both of my parents, public employees throughout their entire lives. all my mom, 45 years working fr the city of new york. my father, 30 years working as a substance abuse counselor for the state of new york. i stand here not just as a member of congress, but as a member of your family.
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the family of public employees who serve this country well. you should be respected, not rejected. you should be lifted up, not torn down. you should be embraced. >> i tell you what, it certainly feels like there's a midterm around the corner. hakeem jeffries is trying to rally this crowd, trying to get a message going with democrat voters. i don't know if this works. someone looking out for your taxpayer dollars, find out how badly abused they are, let's stop the person, meaning elon musk. i don't know if this does it, but you saw some of the cameras going up to get stuff that was behind them. i had our team in the control and tell me that's because the crowd is massive out there. my question would be, guy benson, what do show up for for this? what's the take away, the deliverable for a voter?
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speak of a lot of voters with their watching on the screen as the democratic leader in the house surrounded by federal -- >> a lot of viewers are watching the screen the democratic leader in the house around by bureaucrats. they are cheering him on, but you see their preprinted out placards. we pay all their salaries including hakeem jeffries. they are all unelected bureaucrats. we pay their salaries. the idea that we cannot as taxpayers demands to look at how they spend their money and what they're doing on the job, and they are up in arms about it, i think it's offensive, frankly, to a lot of taxpayers. there is a huge sign that if we were to pull out -- a huge sign that said "no unelected elon musk." no one elected these bureaucrats. they've been playing games and dispersing our money for decades on end anonymously with no accountability. and saying "elon is the first unelected guy we want not looking at our money or handling our money." >> and not just allowed to do it, but the duplicity. if you don't stop something, you must love it.
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>> to save us money as opposed to spend evermore amounts of it shoveling out the door. that's refreshing change to a lot of people. these people have their interests at heart, not ours. >> this congressman told me something that was rather disturbing: one of the agencies musk went to look at and had rats. they had not moved a box in years. there were cell phones that had the same numbers. they had never been disengaged. >> to pay the monthly bill? >> i don't know how, i don't even know what country we are in right now. "flip on the light, we will see the problem." center screen, that person would be hakeem jeffries, who leads democrats in the house, saying don't turn on the light. >> the federal deficit transcends party lines. you should see democrats and republicans come together to bring this deficit down. unfortunately, i think what's happening with doge is you have a wrecking ball-type manner to try to bring across town, which
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as you know, wrecking balls are quite effective at making change. people are up in arms. specifically, i could talk about the nih grant funding that judges are trying to intervene on. the national institute of health last week so they are going to pull back, and say federal government is going to cap indirect costs, overhead for research funding at 15%. $83 billion were spent for research in 2019. $44 billion of that was paid by taxpayers. guess who's not paying the overhead like the u.s. taxpayers are? you heard rosanna say earlier soros. the soros foundation, the gates foundation. when it comes to indirect costs for these universities, their indirect costs are 15% or less. the u.s. taxpayers are paying about 60% right now. we should be limiting at. >> breaking news. they are at a loss of new york city, eric adams, is delivering an address the day
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after the trump administration told federal prosecutors to drop corruption charges against the mayor. let's watch together. >> i never took my eyes off what was important: you and your families future. because of that, our city government has never been stronger. look at the figures. we have achieved record drops in crime, record increases in affordable housing, the highest number of jobs in new york city history. i am looking to repeat that. double-digit drops in shooters, homicides, subway crimes. the most new housing built in a three-year period ever. the most jobs ever. we moved more than 185,000 migrants through our system, and out of our care. we helped put $30 billion back into the pockets of new yorkers through direct assistance, and we enrolled more children than
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ever into early childhood education programs, reducing the cost of child care to less than one-tenth of what it was when we came into office for working families. we put thousands of new police officers on our streets and our subways. we connected thousands, struggling with mental illness to services. that's right. hidden beneath all the shocking headlines, the rumors and accusations, all the innuendos and insinuations -- >> we have someone in the house today who has the most recent exclusive interview with mayor adams. it was not long ago she joined us on "outnumbered." what are your thoughts as you watch this play out. the charges get dropped against him, and would it matter at this point? >> i think all that is up in the air right now. waiting to see what the u.s. attorney will do. the department of justice has asked them to drop the federal
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charges against the mayor. now, it's not like they said the mayor didn't have substantial charges against them: they said it was politically motivated, would not help them in their quest to clean up new york city with the migrant crisis. >> wait a minute, that sounds like a deal was made. >> it sounds like it, but we have not heard from the u.s. attorney's office yet. now, in years past, the u.s. attorney's office was like a sovereign state. they did things their own way. they were strong. you cannot corrupt them. will they go along with the doj right now? we don't know, but one thing is for sure: mayor adams is breathing a sigh of relief. there is help on the way. >> run for mayor -- i don't know yet, harris. it's too soon to tell. >> i don't know if there's ever any perfection. we don't really know the history
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of the role that these u.s. attorneys have played in all this. we know the concerns that they were pushing against trump, the vendettas, the maliciousness, the law fair and everything. i don't know what this means. >> there were a number of critics, even in the democratic party, that said the charges against mayor adams were not such a big deal, some of the stuff had to do with upgrades, calling the fire department to get an okay at the turkish embassy, that was waiting on the fired apartment to come and give them the okay, but there was some problem with ballots and stuff like that and finances that way. they did not think they had the strongest case. >> thank you. i'm glad you are here. >> turning to this. deportation flights of illegal aliens from venezuela are underway. you can see the deportees being loaded on a plane supplied by venezuela on the screen. on the left is the president's
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envoy for special missions, richard grenell, who is personally overseeing the first two flights. president trump says "record numbers of illegals are in the process of being removed from all -- and all of their home countries accepting the deportees." in an effort to increase the scale of the operation, they're looking for irs agents to help be deputized to help with immigration enforcement. >> working with law enforcement officers. we put working, helping secure some of these at-large operations. they can cover back door, help transport the noncriminal irs agent can help process and -- do some intelligence, wrap around infrastructure planning. we can take all the help we can get because this is a big operation. i hope we get some of them. >> guy benson, this is my favorite thing the administration has done yet. we witnessed personally as the
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irs has enjoyed the $35 million we spent on them, to militarize their agents, showing up at people doors, to reclaim a renovation you did not declare for my $30,000. the preposterous amount of waste at that agency in the hands specifically of their field agents has paved the way, to me, to say "you want to play rambo? do it at the border with an actual threat instead of having the american people be the threat of a lost dollar for this governments bloat." i love it. we need the extra hands, and we need those guys to do something with their vests. >> iron member democrats passing a law that massively increased the number of irs agents. the trump administration, now that you are here, you have got a badge, we have got a problem. i think we have a solution. we will see how many of those irs agents are thrilled about the job, but it is their assignment. shouted to ric grenell. the very early results. he got those americans being held in caracas back home, he set on day one. and now he is seeing planes take
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off and the other direction, filled with migrants with a disproportionate number of them being criminals as well. these are precisely the kinds of results boaters were expecting -- results voters were expecting and demanding. >> wheels into the mayor, moments ago, the mayor of new york city saying he moved 185,000 migrants through our system and out. the reality is there hundreds of thousands, frankly, millions, still circulating in the cou country. what does it mean to americans, the ones that are -- their city being overrun by taxpayer dollars and resources. what do you think it means to americans to see these flights working? >> i think new york city as an example, housed and continue to house thousands and thousands upon -- migrants. they get free shelter, free food, free schooling, free legal advice, and the list goes on and on. and yes, we are not getting as
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many people as we used to get. we used to get thousands of people from countries all over the world every week. now, it's trickling down, but i think we are still housing close atomic 50,000 - 60,000 people. they keep it quiet on what's going on in the shelters. we know for example the roosevelt hotel. city council has convened, they are concerned, there are children there unaccompanied by any kind of adult. what are they doing? they also know that migrant gangs have taken over the roosevelt hotel. what are they doing? we are waiting. waiting. >> and that reflects so many americans who feel the same way for the country, that now have seen the president apply pressure to other presidents, country's leaders, who say "here's this, use that." [laughter] >> columbia? let's talk about venezuela. i had a thought of this earlier as you were going back and forth on the irs -- this is a portion of them that
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have been focused on money trafficking and that sort of thing, so this has sort of been in their wheelhouse, if you will come of specialty. repurpose at the border, you let them find sex traffickers, you have them find the money so to speak, and maybe when you are doing that, you can find some of those gangs. i understand this cartel is active again along the mexican border. you let them follow the money. when the be interesting talking about countries capitulating to trump? look how fast venezuela turned. trump had pressure on them to take back their 200, and today they're going back. there saying these are some of the worst of the worst coming back and find -- take them. what if that money traces back to the government? this group had a lot of freedom at one point, then decided to walk out of it here illegally. i think you have some government leaders on the run here, just going "we'd better check our
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books." put the irs on that job. they are supposed to be really good at finding the money. let them look. >> this is -- the poorest southern border has presented a huge multifaceted issue. affects every american and requires every hand on deck by our government to stymie the flow and get these get out of here. >> i think it is a major mind-set shift we see under the trump administration. the bite and administration in 2022 voted to expand the irs. in 2021, they increased irs agents by 20%. 2022, they said "let's do it even more." their way to get more money is to go after american taxpayers -- really, that is how can we get more from the american taxpayers? where is the trump administration is saying "we are spending -- every single year in terms of illegal migrants. whether it's education, housing, medical care, all of it is costing the american taxpayer. what he is saying today was let's bring some of that money
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back, decrease illegal migrants. that will plug up the cost, the fact that we are just bleeding money here. i think this former congressman, billy long, who will be the new head of the irs -- not confirmed yet -- we will keep seeing this mind-set. with got to try to figure out how to stop spending money, go after american taxpayers to try to get more money. >> and quickly, we are watching the images on a screen of those guys going up the ramp, getting on the plane, flying home. think about our fox drones day after day, people pouring illegally into the country. now we are seeing the outflow. what a dramatic and necessary change. >> one of those caravans was coming around the inauguration time. the president of mexico sent 10,000 to the border. >> can i make one point real quick? it's been estimated that if we spent $30 billion, we could end homelessness in the united states for american citizens, some of which are veterans. yet we are spending $150 billion every year on illegal immigrants.
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we need to focus on how we can take care of americans. >> fema is halting millions in payments to put migrants in luxury new york hotels as we spoke about a moment ago, thanks to elon musk and his team at doge. live report next. at ameriprise financial, we know our clients are so much more than clients. they're go-getters and game-changers, legacy-leavers and visionaries, healers and confidants. the goals that matter most to you matter most to us. helping you achieve them is what we do best. with personal financial advice from an advisor you can trust, and goal-based investing and solutions. it's no wonder we have a 4.9 out of 5 client satisfaction rating. ameriprise financial. advice worth talking about.
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this representative from maryland. you were pointing out who she is and exactly why this matters. >> she is the newly elected maryland senator. a lot of her constituents or government workers peer she is rallying with her party's base. you could argue that this is a rally against taxpayers. these are federal bureaucrats
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and workers demanding they not have to make any changes with her money. may be, they view themselves as sympathetic. i'm not sure a lot of taxpayers agree. >> i misspoke, congresswoman, not senator. i want to give her the title peer she earned a pure cheese learning something else right now, and that is the spotlight democrats have not soaked up much with anything other than anti-trump messaging. where is the message that gets them reelected again? >> yes, and where is the accuracy? we heard the earlier speakers saying "your government workers are being forced out." that's not what's happening. the reason this is constitutional and has precedence, including under my tenure when i was a federal attorney, is that there is a choice. every time there's a government shutdown all or almost shut down, drawing up the papers just in case and not going through with it. the same thing happens in. the people would've accepted this.
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getting paid for 9 months, and the people that are them accepting as many -- -- >> and is the irony not lost on anybody right here? one of the biggest things that are pushing back on is the ability to work remotely, and yet here we are -- this remote work. one, they are paying the rent, properties -- wasting money. a lot of research including from stanford institute remote work, including those in administrative holes. >> addressing this. we wanted to look at whether there working in the interim while they make up their minds. the federal judges extension, for them to decide whether they
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want to take the payout. that's been a few extra weeks they had to do that. read "art of the deal." and was hard to find. turning to the story. fema says it's suspending millions in payments that house illegal immigrants in new york city hotels. just hours after elon musk called out the agency and social media. now we have learned that at least four people can be fired. >> harris, good afternoon. the impact of elon musk -- workers fired, defining leadership, sending $59 million to new york city. fire, including fema's former chief financial officer, as well as -- grant specialist. the department of public
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security is react telling fox news "under president trump and the secretary's leadership, dhs will not sit idly and allow deep state activists to undermine the will and safety $53 million -- wants to hotels for migrants. $26 million paid for food insecurity, and $13 million went to the shelter system, migrant services. elon musk says the payment directly contradicts president trump's executive order, requiring a review of theme. trump says the agency needs drastic changes after failing to adequately help hurricane helene victims. they say disaster relief and integration money. >> the fact is, no money is being diverted from response needs. that's a fact. >> elon musk says differently. posting on x "yes, that was a
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huge lie by the biden administration. funds were diverted -- maximize the number of illegals. these phones siphoned from social security to pay for illegals. new york city claims expense $7 billion on the migrant crisis with $237 million coming back to the city in the form of support -- mayor adams and his team says they will speak directly to federal officials regarding this recent $59 million payment made to the city for fema. back to you. >> your report on the siphoning of cash out of social security for some of this got a big gulp on the couch. thank you. great report. the response was -- >> it's obviously an incredible report, incredible reporter. i want to look into this more, but they are taking money from social security to pay for these illegal migrants, what democrats were trying to scare american
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voters in: that donald trump was going to go after your social security, but the hypocrisy as they were already doing it themselves. >> as someone who pays taxes to new york city, a lot of taxes, i'm a little nervous now, because they are going to stop sending whatever money from the federal government, whatever department, because we need the money in new york. mayor adams just went to the governor of new york last week, and begged for $1.1 billion. he said "if we don't have it in 12 weeks --" it was kind of like what could happen? the suspense was in the air. what did he need that money for? we need the money! $54 million is a drop in the bucket to keep all these people housed, legal services, schooling, medical. >> and what happens if you don't offer that, emily, what does the law say if you just say to an illegal "we are cutting off" gimmick i don't know how it
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looks. >> i don't care how it looks. it looks worse for new yorkers. to your point, i live here too, and respectfully, the way to get money is not to beg for another handout from the overloaded federal government: it's to incentivize businesses to come back to midtown. is to incentivize small businesses, medium and large corporations that fled or were destroyed under covid, under the democratic, horrible stewardship of leadership that not only killed a bunch of people but also led to so many things closing. we are still feeling the effects every day on the subways, streets, and in our communities, in terms of the lack of safety, economic thriving, the totally skyrocketed taxes for nothing back, other than the privilege of living here, which the quality of life, frankly, is horrible. >> and they threaten us all the time that's going to get worse, they will cut services here. so we are living under a possible no sanitation, less police officers, fire. >> since i worked at the ssa,
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the point of being able to hide so much is that $8 billion per year in that agency is spent towards waste, fraud, and abuse anyway. of course they are not going to see that $59 million was irresponsibly or criminally paid out, because there are billions being wasted every day. that's our money, and it has to stop. >> i see it, and its elon musk. i guess he is dancing to kendrick lamar. i don't even know. this sounds like no one's really looked at these books, new york is being held hostage. i am amazed i am amazed at how bad this is pure chip roy last hour, mentioned it already took some agency he was talking about, flip on the lights, and the rodents run. this is not the america we literally are paying for. >> i was watching, carefully, that report from our colleague nate foy. and those few short minutes, if
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you bottled everything he told us, that was the essence of the november election. many of us are just sick of it, including people who have not been super hawkish on immigration. last four years -- a complete outreach. $59 million. how many flights back could pay for? >> when new york voted to become a century state, new york city a sanctuary city, that was the impetus of this problem. they have created this problem on themselves. >> my goodness, that was not a pick me up, but it was full of truth. elon musk, donald trump, the president to. so happening. chrisana scott oh has a fox nation show that we want to tell you about streaming now. i think these things drop on tuesdays, just like books. "the underground economy." what's it about? >> a lot of the migrants are not supposed to be working. >> they are not supposed to be here. >> that too, but they are working. what they are doing to stay alive.
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a lot of these people owe money to the coyotes, so they have to make money to stay alive, to keep their families safe. we go into that in "the underground economy," and what they are doing right now. >> does any of this deal with children? 300,000, some of them, missing and unaccounted for by the biden administration. i know tom homan and others -- looking to find it in the next wave after getting out the worst first. >> it's sad. a lot of them are being human traffic. there are reports of some being human traffic. you go to queens, roos roosevelt avenue. we see these young girls were selling their bodies to stay alive. we know that happening in our city, and it's part of what's going on. >> i don't know how many more public officials in new york are going to want to sit down if they know you are discovering the problems. >> they know about it too. there you go. >> they know about it. >> can't wait to watch. >> yes. but is fox nation. it's streaming now.
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when you're in the military you're really close with your brothers and your sisters that are in the military with you. and when you get out of the military, you kind of lose that until you find a new family. we can talk about our struggles and the things that we did overseas and not everybody can do that. adam! how's it going, brother? we live pretty close to each other. so he's always coming over. when i go to jack's house, we watch a lot of football, hang out. we go outside the friendship has kind of grown into a family i was overseas on a deployment. i got separated from my marines and i got hit in the neck, and it broke my neck and paralyzed me. 14 years ago, i was on a training mission. did a military freefall, and i had some faulty equipment.
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i hit the ground. going, 30 to 40 knots and was instantly paralyzed. i met jack fanning when he invited us to park city, utah, through his foundation. i was able to actually get on the mountain and ski with my family, i can't put into words what that meant. i got paid in the military to do crazy fun stuff. and after my accident, i'm still that same guy. and when i was able to jump out of a perfectly good, helicopter, at 10,000 feet, i did it. i was talking to some vets last week amazing how we have these houses where they can come over because they■re in chairs too. carpet and wheelchairs don't mix very well. tunnel to towers, they got rid of all that. they redid my whole bathroom. that's probably the favorite part of my house. i thought they were just going to do the upgrades. but the surprise to me was they paid off the entire mortgage. when they told me they're going to pay off my mortgage, i cried.
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please contribute $11 a month by visiting t2t.org now >> breaking news. we know the president is in the oval office right now with king abdullah of jordan, and the crown prince. we know that there were hardly a chance to talk about with regard to trump's plan to remove people from all the while the arab nations would have to take gazan and among them country country may be terrorists. countries have always pushed back, one of them jordan
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particular. live no live cam is allowed in the oval office for the so they were to be taped to play out on the video. the minute it happens and bring it to pick a draining king to sit on please keep in mind, there is -- in other." how do we do this in a way that's good for everybody and the people jordan, he asks. "going to have an interesting discussion today. we can take" -- this is the king of jordan -- "we can take and 12,000 children then wait for the egyptians to present plan on other challenges," to which president trump says "i didn't know about the children." beautiful gesture. a lot is moving right now. as we know more, we will continue to tell you, as we are learning outside of that meeting what's going on inside of that meeting. the tape play out, when we get it come alive. emily. >> the fbi just discovered over 2,000 secret files connected to
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the assassination of president john f. kennedy. the discovery comes 61 years after his death, but just weeks after president trump issues an executive order demanding the release of all documents tied to the assassinations of jfk, robert f. kennedy, and reverend martin luther king jr. madeleine rivera alive from washington with more. >> good morning. their continued calls for transparency. more than 60 years after the assassination of former president john f. kennedy. the fbi started a search after president trump order of the declassification of all files related to the assassinations of jfk, robert f. kennedy, martin luther king jr. during that search, the agency found proximally 2400 newly inventoried and digitized records that were previously unrecognized, as related to the jfk assassination case file. under the jfk records act of 1992, all documents related to the killing of jfk should have been transferred to the national
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archives and released to the public by october 2017. president trump in his first term, and former president biden, both authorized the limited release of these records. we will know more about these records sometime soon. back to you. >> thank you very much, madalyn. we have breaking news. now, we are going to get the tape play out from the oval office. the bilateral meeting between our president who is trying to negotiate a deal for piece in the middle east, moving -- peace in the middle east, moving gazans from the strip, with ther who is pushed against it, but now says they will take 12,000 children: the king of jordan. let's watch. >> thank you very much. it's an honor to have king abdullah with us. he has been a friend of mine for a long time. long before my first term. we've had a great relationship.
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is a great german, great leader. he does a fantastic job in his country. we are lucky enough to have his handsome son with us today. it's good to see you again. we have had some quick discussions just now. we are going to have some longer discussions after this, and the relationship of jordan has been strong, has been with me and has been with the country. i think i've been closer than other presidents to jordan, and what jordan represents. it's an honor to have you and your son with us today. if you would like to say a few words. thank you very much. >> thank you for having us. a testament to what you said as a relationship between other countries and a personal relationship between the two of us. mr. president, i truly believe that with all the challenges we have in the middle east, i finally see some way that could take us across the finish line
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to bring stability, peace, prosperity to all of us in the region. i think it is our collective responsibility in the middle east to continue to work with you, to support you, to achieve those long term. i'm delighted to be here. interesting discussions. >> very good. thank you very much. >> mr. president, people in the region, especially -- worried about the annexation of the west bank. will you give his majesty, the king -- that you want isra israel -- -- >> i think that will work out very well. that's not really what we are talking about today. i think that's going to work out automatically. and in good shape. we discuss it, other people have discussed it with us and with me. that's going to work out. west bank is going to work out very well. >> he has made clear he doesn't want to take the palestinian people. >> he may have something to say. we discussed briefly -- i think maybe you want to say it now?
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>> mr. president, i think we have to keep in mind that there is a plan from egypt and the arab countries. we are being invited to discussions in riyadh. the point is how do we make this work in a way that is good for everybody? and obviously, we have to look at the best address of the united states, the people in the region, especially to my people of jordan. we are going to have interesting discussions. i think one of the things that we can do right away is take 2,000 children that are either -- or in a very ill states to jordan as quickly as possible. and then, wait for the egyptians to present their plan on how can work with the president to localized -- challenges. >> i want to tell you -- excuse me. i didn't know that, what you just said, 2,000 children with cancer or other problems. that is a beautiful gesture.
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that's really good and we appreciate it. we will be working on the rest with egypt. i think you're going to see some great progress. with jordan, you're going to see great progress. the three of us have some others helping, and we are going to have some others at a very high level helping. the whole thing will come. it's not complex to do. with the united states being in control of that piece of land, fairly large piece of land, you will have stability in the middle east for the first time. the palestinians or the people that live now in gaza, will be living beautifully in another location. they will be living safely. they are not going to be killed, murdered, having to leave every ten years. i have been watching this for so many years. it's nothing but trouble. everyone's being killed, being robbed. it's like living in hell. they are going to have a great home, great families who don't have to get mugged and killed
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and beaten up and harassed by hamas and nobody else. and, i know we will be able to work something. what you decide about the 2,000 is fantastic. that's beautiful. music to my ears. we are going to be able to work something -- and i know we will be able to work something also with, i believe, not 100%, but 99% we will work out something with egypt. >> mr. president -- -- how will the u.s. own gaza? the white house has been clear that taxpayer dollars will not be used for this. what money will you use to buy gaza? >> we aren't going to buy make anything. we are going to keep it and make sure that there's going to be peace, no problem, and nobody is going to question it. we are going to run it properly. eventually, we will have economic development at a large scale, may be the largest scale on that site.
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we will have lots of good things built there, including hotels, office buildings, housing, other things. we will make that site into what it should be. the people from gaza who wouldn't be able to be there for years, because you are talking about getting it, prepare it, and to take care of all the problems that currently it has, as you know. tunnels. people are in those tunnels. you have some good people, some bad people. you may have hostages right now. you have the hostages possibly there. they don't know where they are. you know i have a saturday deadline. i don't think they are going to make the deadline, personally. i think they want to play tough guy, but we will see how tough they are. it's going to be a wonderful thing. it's going to be wonderful for the middle east. i think it will turn the middle east -- i think you were going to have peace in the middle east. you are eventually going to have peace in the middle east. >> you mentioned -- how the deadline, couldn't risk undermining the talks were having with the king today?
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risk the peace you are trying to -- >> we are not talking about a big situation. we are talking about something that can go very quickly. it's not going to take a long time, okay? you know bullies? you know what a bully is, right? i have found it throughout my life. a bully is the weakest person. and they are bullies, hamas is bullies. the weakest people are bullies. you know that, right? >> where exactly do you want them to live? >> it's not where i want them to live: it's going to be where we, hopefully as a group, choose. i believe we will have a parcel of land in jordan. i believe we will have a parcel of land in egypt. we may have some place else, but i think when we finish our talks, we will have a place where they are going to live very happily and safely. don't forget: they only want to
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be on the gaza strip because they don't know anything else. they've never had an alternative. they don't want to be on the gaza strip, but they have no choice. they have to be. they are being killed there at levels that nobody's ever seen. no place in the world is as dangerous as the gaza strip. they don't want to be there. they have no alternative. when they have an alternative, not one person will want to stay where they are. nobody wants to stay there. they are living in hell. it is a death trap. >> mr. president, how do you know the palestinians don't want to -- leave the land? some say it's ethnic cleansing. you are forcing them to leave their land. >> we are moving into a beautiful location where they have new homes, can live safely, where they have doctors, medical, and all those things. i think it's going to be great. any questions? >> king abdullah, what do you think about the u.s. taking over the gaza strip? do you want to say the u.s. on the gaza strip? >> i think as i said earlier, the president is looking at
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egypt coming to present their plan. we will be in saudi arabia to discuss how we can work with the president and the united states. i think let's wait until the egyptians can present it to the president, and not get ahead of ourselves. >> and is a parcel of land -- jordan -- that the palestinians -- >> i have to look at the best interests of my country. the president is happy that we do this -- help the 2,000 children as quickly as possible. i believe the president is looking forward to getting a group of us arabs here to discuss the overall plan. >> and my last question, the children -- are they from the gaza strip? >> absolutely. >> that's from the gaza strip, though 2,000. >> are you willing to change your mind if you hear the egyptian and other plan -- end of the month? if they present you something different? >> i think we sort of have gone down the line. we know pretty much what is going to be presented.
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i think it's going to be magnificent for the palestinians. they are going to be in love with it. i did very well with real estate. i can tell you about real estate. they are going to be in love with it. >> doesn't concern you that moving 2 million people from -- >> that's a very small number of people relative to other things that have taken place over the decades and centuries. that's a very small number of people. they are living a terrible life. look at the way they are living. nobody is living like that the entire world. they are living under buildings that are mostly fallen down, and will continue to fall down. people are being killed every day. the conditions are horrible. there are no conditions anywhere in the world worse than the gaza strip right now. >> mr. president, you said hell will break out of the hostages are not released saturday. what did you mean by that? are you encouraging netanyahu to walk away from this deal? >> i have looked at the
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condition of people coming out of the hostage situation. it's horrible. i looked at the before and after, yesterday. three young men. one is dead now, as you know, the older journeyman who died, which of what he says he was alive and well. he is dead. the three young men. i looked looked at them from a short while ago and i looked at them now. they look like holocaust survivors. they looked, get better, they are in rough shape. they have been treated very badly. and we have heard things from them since, and i think the reason that hamas is playing so cute is because they probably -- they saw the reaction to these three people that came out, and the other, the one young lady had her hand blown off practically, and they were not in great shape, either.
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but she is missing her fingers and a big part of her hand. you know what she did? she was stopping a bullet that was aimed at her. she went like that, and it blew off her hand. no, i think they want to time because i think the people they have living or in such bad shape because they are sending the most healthy people out. because they don't want to send the least healthy people out. and there was an uproar when they saw the people from yesterday. so these people -- and then we do another two in another week and then we do four, three weeks -- they either have them out by saturday at 12:00, or all bets are off. >> reporter: mr. president, would you still consider withholding aid to those countries if they don't accept your plans to accept a -- >> well, i don't want to say that because we have had such a good relationship and we are doing so well just in the short time that we have been talking. i mean, the king

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