and a big part of her hand. you know what she did? she was stopping a bullet that was aimed at her. she went like that, and it blew off her hand. no, i think they want to time because i think the people they have living or in such bad shape because they are sending the most healthy people out. because they don't want to send the least healthy people out. and there was an uproar when they saw the people from yesterday. so these people -- and then we do another two in another week and then we do four, three weeks -- they either have them out by saturday at 12:00, or all bets are off. >> reporter: mr. president, would you still consider withholding aid to those countries if they don't accept your plans to accept a -- >> well, i don't want to say that because we have had such a good relationship and we are doing so well just in the short time that we have been talking. i mean, the king just made a

statement, i didn't ask him to do that, about literally saving 2,000 young children from the gaza strip. we didn't know about that. you didn't know about that. nobody did except for the king and his son. your son, right? and i just thought it was great. no, i think we will do some something. threatened -- we contributed a lot of money to jordan and to egypt, by the way, a lot to both, but i don't have to threatened that. i think we are above that. i do believe we are above that. >> reporter: would you consider other countries, not jordan and egypt, other places? >> yeah, sure. we have other countries that want to get involved. we have a lot of people who want to get involved. there is a great sense of wanting to help the palestinians. there is a lot of good countries out there, people that rule those countries with big hearts,

and this gentleman is at the top of the list. >> reporter: how are you going to force them, mr. president? >> they are going to be great. they are going to be very happy. >> reporter: should we expect that the jordanian response would be part of a coordinated response? >> the response will be from a multitude of countries, arab, international, you know the europeans want to step in and again we will probably have to look to the help of the united states to make sure the clearing agency on the israeli side makes it is efficient as possible because 2,000 kids, the best way to get to them is by helicopters and get them straight to our institutions. i also believe that quite a few countries would also like to take some of those kids and have them treated in their hospitals. >> yes, and that's right. this should have been done by the biden administration but, you know, they didn't do anything, they didn't know what the hell they were doing, should have been done by the biden administration, should have never happened because october 7th would have never

happened if i were president, zero chance of happening, wouldn't have had that whole mess where the middle east got blown up and wouldn't have had ukraine and russia fighting. that would have never happened. and by the way, we are making good progress there. i really think we are making some very good progress. >> reporter: mr. president, you said before that the u.s. would buy gaza and today you just said we are not going to buy -- >> not going to have to buy. we are going to have gaza. nothing to buy. we will have gaza. report back what does that mean -- >> there is nothing to buy. there is gaza, it is a war-torn area. we are going to take it. we are going to hold it. we are going to cherish it. we are going to get it going eventually where a lot of jobs are going to be created for the people in the middle east. it is going f to be for the peoe in the middle east. i think it could be a diamond. i think it could be an absolute tremendous asset for the middle east. and you are going to have peace -- it is going to bring peace in the middle east.

gaza the way it is right now, every ten years you are going to have the same thing happening. i have watched it so long, all of the death and destruction of gaza. civilization has been wiped out in gaza. no, it is going to be a tremendous thing. it is fronting on the sea. that is going to be a great economic development. going to put people to work, a lot of people to work, and those people are all going to be from the middle east. >> reporter: follow-up for king of doula, can you clarify again, sir, how do you feel about the u.s. taking gaza, as the president said? >> well, again, this is something that we as arabs will be coming to the united states with something that we are going to talk about later to discuss all these options. >> reporter: mr. president, take it under what authority? >> under the u.s. >> reporter: you seem to personally developed property in gaza? >> i had a great career.

>> reporter: [indistinct] >> when you have done what i have done in the last number of years, including the four years we should have been doing something else, frankly, because people see that now, for sure, but when you have done what i have done, you can do more good for people when you are president. when you're president, we can do things. this is all things that should have been done, but actually things that shouldn't have had to be done. gaza absolutely, it would have been so great of the biden administration would have started this. but actually, in all fairness to them, it was -- they should have never let it happen. it did happen. and because of the fact that they let this happen, this catastrophe of october 7th, something like this becomes practical and very real, meaning the development and all of the things that i have talked about with respect to the gaza strip. if you didn't have the october 7th catastrophe -- and it was a horrible catastrophe --

then probably you wouldn't be talking about that. but the only thing i can say is this is going to bring stability and peace to the middle east. and ultimately when it is developed, which will be in quite a while from now, because we want -- let things calm down -- but when it is developed it is going to bring tremendous numbers of jobs to the middle east, including the people of your country. >> reporter: what if it does not bring peace to the middle east? there are many palestinians, even though you say that every thing is going to be beautiful, everything is going to be lovely and they are not going to want to go back, they're going to be people that want to go back and feel like it is their right to do that. any type of repercussions or anything -- >> we don't think that's going to happen. we think people are going to be very happy, thrilled. a lot of those people that you are talking about are going to end it may be living there and maybe working there, but it will be in a different form. we have had tremendous support for this project. we think the biggest asset of the project, it's going to bring

peace, ultimately, to the middle east. >> reporter: one last question -- >> behind you. >> reporter: miss her president, one of your promisess in the united states oppose this. what do you say to that? >> if you look at michigan, where we have a large arab population, as you know, i was just telling the king, that we won, as you know, i won the arab population. when i started off, i wasn't leading. when they finished a few months later, we started campaigning in michigan, and when i finished, we won it by a tremendous amount, by 30 points. so my relationship with the arab population has been fantastic. my relationship with the middle east is very good. very good with all of the countries, just about all of the countries, let's see. i would say all the countries. and they all want to do something and they want to see

peace in the middle east. all the stories you hear about the middle east not really wanting peace, that they want war, they want this, they want to go a certain place, let me tell you, those stories are false, they want to have peace. i know them all very well. they want to have peace. they want to have a good life like other people. and this will be a b a big factn bringing peace to the middle east. thank you very much, everybody. [overlapping questions] >> out this way. >> quickly, please. >> sandra: you have been listening there to king of doula of jordan and the president of the united states donald trump, secretary of state marco rubio seated there, as well. a lot of news coming from that, hostages that the president lead off with hamas and a message to hamas, must have all of the hostages out by saturday or all bets are off, although the president, john, did make a

prediction that he does not think hamas will release hostages by saturday. by the way, i'm sandra smith. welcome as we top a new our here, but a lot on gaza as the president did reiterate we are going to take gaza, john. >> john: i'm john john roberts peered told you it was meant to be a busy week, didn't i? a lot to unpack and we will over the next few minutes ahead here. one of the big news items is king abdullah said that jordan will take in 2,000 palestinian children who are ill in some way, suffering from cancer or some other condition. obviously it's a gesture that president trump very much appreciated. but if you take in 2,000 palestinian children, that leaves about 1,198,000 other palestinians whose future is in question. president trump seemed to indicate that he knows what this plan is, that egypt is going to present, and he likes it. so we need to dig down a little deeper on that and try to find out what the president knows. >> sandra: let's bring in stephen miller for just that,

white house deputy chief of staff, homeland security advisor, good to have you on the program here. what can you add to what we just heard? >> well, i think it is important to put everything in context first. when president trump left office in 2020, we had peace in the middle east. we had stability. relations were being normalized. more and more countries were being added to the abraham accords. and it was also peaceful and quiet with israel and gaza. four years later, of course, we have had catastrophe. we have had bloodbath. we have had chaos. iran nuclear weapon, funding proxies all across the region that are spurning terror and death including of course the catastrophe and the tragedy on october 7th in israel. president trump is now proposing bold and necessary solutions to solve what has been previously an unsolvable problem. this has not worked. and what president trump is saying is you could spend $100 billion rebuilding the

rubble of gaza, put everybody back where they were before, hamas will reconstitute, hamas will attack israel again, it will be reduced to rubble again and we will do this every five years forever? clearly that has never worked, clearly that will never work. so he is talking about creating an international cooperative effort to turn the gaza strip into a center of commerce and opportunity, and then to work with partners around the region, including jordan and egypt, to resettle some of the 2 million individuals who are living in the gaza strip, so that it can be a place of peace and prosperity, and this is exactly the plan that is necessary in order to achieve the peace that we have all been searching and hoping for. >> john: that discussion in the oval office, king abdullah was asked several times does he agree with president trump's plan to take over gaza and resettle the palestinians, he kept on deferring, saying we're going to have conversations with egypt and other partners in the region. the president was asked about the egyptian plan. he seemed to indicate he knows

the basic framework of it, if not more, and that he likes it and that the palestinians will like it. so can you tell us what the egyptian plan is? >> i can't get ahead -- i would love to, john. it is great to be on air with you, john, it has been a while. i salute, by the way, how well you have been doing and i'm glad to talk to you today. the president has been clear about the cooperation with egypt. i don't want to get ahead of him on that announcement. but i think the important point here is egypt recognizes, we have been a long-standing partner of egypt. we have a long-standing military alliance. we are close with the sisi government. there is a framework of cooperation and stability in the region. 2 million refugees sounds large in gaza, but to put it in our own perspective here in america, what, joe biden brought in 15-20000000 people in a four-year time period to just one country. talking about a population that

could be resettled across multiple different countries in the region, that could have access to the first time in their lines lives to security, stable housing, stable income, health care, medicine, stable food supply. this will be transformative for the region, transformative for the gaza population, and it would end and disrupt the cycle of heart breaking violence -- john, you know i am right when i say if you return to the status quo, it will be two years or four years or five years, there will be another attack, gaza will be reduced to rubble again, more people will die, more people will get hurt and we will be back exactly where we started, that cannot continue, that is the president fundamental point. >> john: i would think there is a pretty good argument for that position, if you return to the status quo, this will happen over and over again. >> sandra: stephen, if we could, we were able to cut the president from just a moment ago detailing his plans on gaza. >> we are not going to buy anything. we are going to keep it and we are going to make sure there is going to be peace and there is not going to be any problem and

nobody is going to question it, and we are going to run it very proudly and eventually will have economic development at a very large-scale, may be the largest scale on that site. >> sandra: so you and the president or laying out some pretty significant plans here. what speed bumps do you imagine -- >> i want to be very clear. the president is laying out the plans. i am just honored to be able to be here today to talk with you about the president's transformative plans for the region. sometimes, when you have a problem that has been stuck in concrete for generations, you have to stop tinkering around the edges and change the whole entire paradigm. that is what the president is proposing here. this is an incredibly valuable piece of property in terms of being along the beachfront, in terms of having economic potential, in terms of having tremendous development potential. for the region if you were to turn this into an oasis of economic opportunity, where people could live and work and be free and happy, and never

have hamas ever again, that would be so beautiful for the region and for the world. you have people of palestinian descent who are currently right now living in jordan, living in other countries around the region. there is absolutely no reason why you couldn't continue to pursue that resettlement in a way that brings dignity to refugees so that than the region can be developed economically, so we can talk once it has been developed the other partner nations about what kind of residency situation could exist there. but the key point is that first you have to end what is clearly the broken and has never worked and never will work and everyone recognizes that. we all look at turn back the clock and go back to 2020 when president trump was in office, but the world has changed, october 7th changed everything, and the treatment of these prisoners, who were

mutilated and debased day after day by hamas shows that this will never work. the current situation will never succeed. and by the way, the population of gaza are prisoners of hamas. people can debate endlessly about what percentage of support hamas does or doesn't have with the population, that is a most aside from the point. they are prisoners of hamas. they are subjects of hamas. they cannot live in a situation into the future where if you step out of line you and your family get murdered and killed. they cannot live in a place that is governed only by violence and hatred. president trump is saying let's change the whole picture of the region. you've seen other parts of the middle east that have turned into incredible zones of economic opportunity, with the right governance and the right approach. this can be done here, and the people who are afraid of trying something new are trying something different are locked-in to a system that has only ever produced failure and heartbreak. how many years, john, have you had the same conversation? your whole career. how many breaking news segments,

john, have you had during your storied career about bloodshed and massacre in that region? how many times -- at what point do we say we have to change the whole equation? that is what president trump is talking about. >> john: and to your point, stephen, we were showing pictures of the jabal y jabalia refugee camp, and you wonder how anybody could ever return to that because there literally is nothing left. part of the equation is that in order to get rid of hamas you have to do something about iran, which other benefactors peered what do you do about that? but i want to ask you about the saturday deadline because here is what the president said a moment ago about that. >> a deadline. i don't think they're going to make a deadline, personally. i think they want to play tough guy. but we will see how tough they are. but it is going to be a wonderful thing. it is going to be wonderful for the middle east. i think you are going to have peace in the middle east. >> john: at the end there he came back to his plan for gaza but go back to the saturday

deadline. the president has said if they don't make the saturday deadline, if all of the remaining hostages are not released, all hell will break loose and all bets are off. what, in practical terms, does that mean? >> well, i think for one thing, it is the same as the government of israel, that if the hostages are not returned in full, then israel will not be restrained by the united states in its response, so a fundamental level, it's the president saying to israel that you can do what you have to do if that deadline isn't met. because the president just said in his remarks yesterday and as i know that you heard, israel obviously has the ability if they want to to make their own decision as a sovereign country how they want to handle, but the president is saying, not only saying but part of what he is saying is that israel can do what needs to do in such a circumstance. i obviously wouldn't telegraph any moves beyond that because as you know, the president is very clear, we do not telegraphed our moves under president trump, but

the threat and the warning is as real and as severe and as dire as it gets. he is done with watching our fellow -- both you have americans in captivity as well as our friends in israel in captivity, being tortured to death. enough is enough. free all the hostages, or pay the price, because this country is not going to tolerate terrorists torturing and murdering american citizens, as well as our allies and friends in israel. it has to stop. there has to be a deadline, and we are not messing around, and this president is not messing around. >> sandra: stephen, before you go, and i will warn you we're up against a heartbreak here at 21, has israel told the united states, told the president how they will act if they do not meet that deadline saturday? >> i have no news on that front. but i knew the bottom line message to hamas and to the world is that the united states

of america is not going to let terrorists around the world. we are not going to let these organizations dictate the great powers what happens and when. you kidnap and murder american citizens, you kidnap and murder our friends, there will be consequences. prices will be paid. october 7th was the deadliest day for since the holocaust and we were reminded of the holocaust when we see these emaciated bodies leaving custody as their captors laugh at their suffering and pain. this is not the path to success and peace in the middle east. success and peace in the middle east is a future where hamas can no longer threaten anyone. >> john: all right, we will see if the region can put a plan together peered stephen, thank you for spending time -- good to see you and thanks for your kind words, appreciate it. >> thanks, john. >> sadly, that's exactly what these billionaire brose want to do. they want to create more chaos. this is an unserious, and you

know it's it it is about, it is about these billionaires making sure that they line their pockets, his copresident elon musk and the billionaire boys and the way they can expand their fortunes. >> john: democrats sounding off against d.o.g.e. as they struggle to find their footing to defy the president's agenda. katie pavlich has got a few thoughts about what we are seeing and she is coming rightd up. stay with usget . where are my keys? (vo) don't wait while memory and thinking issues pile up. these issues may seem like normal aging but could be due to a buildup of amyloid plaques in the brain. amyloid can build up over time. the sooner you talk to your doctor, the more options you may have. visit amyloid.com for additional information. most people don't realize how processed typical dog food is. at the farmer's dog, we believe dogs should be able to get their daily nutrition

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special envoy to the middle east steve witkoff and is headed to freedom. according to a statement from michael waltz, witkoff and the president's advisors negotiated an exchange that serves as a show of good faith from the russians in a sign we are moving the right direction to end the brutal and terrible war in ukraine. we don't know what constitutes this "exchange" but we do know that the trump administration, unlike some administrations in the past, is not of a mind to exchange very high value targets like victor boot or millions of dollars in exchange for hostages, but good news for the fogel family and after a number of years in prison he is going to be coming back home. thank goodness he did not have to spend 14 years in a penal colony as he believed he was going to have to. >> sandra: imprisoned in russia 2021. rep kelly out of pennsylvania has advocated for his safe return to the united states.

only as of january 2nd getting that designation of wrongfully detained for fogel. dan hoffman is jumping on with us right now. dan, want to get your reaction, as the statement from the national secured advisor has just been released, president trump and his envoy steve witkoff are able to announce that witkoff is leaving russian airspace with marc fogel, an american who was detained by russia. the president and his advisors negotiated an exchange that served as a show of good faith on the russians in a sign we are moving in the right direction to end the brutal and terrible war in ukraine. your reaction, dan? >> this is a major foreign policy success. anytime we are able to extract one of our citizens from behind enemy lines in russia, good on the administration for doing it. stephen woodcock has a lot on his plate right now dealing with the middle east, incredibly impressive to me that on top of that he was able to secure the release of marc fogel, and remember that marc was arrested in august of 2021 for carrying

0.6 ounces of medical marijuana into the country. now the question is what we had to give the russians in return. i don't think those details have been shared yet or how this fits into the larger picture, remember this weekend at the munich security conference there will be discussions about the future of ukraine, and typically with russia everything is intertwined. there were hostage release with the war in ukraine, even arms-control negotiation. >> john: so, when fogel was taken, right around the way same time that brittney griner was taken, as well, and she had a quantity of marijuana on her, as well. she was immediately labeled as wrongfully detained. fogel wasn't. and there was a great cry, why are you treating brittney griner one way and marc fogel a different way? as sandra mentioned, he eventually did get that wrongfully detained designation, but can you speak to us about -- what were the differences here?

it seems like very much the same thing. >> yeah, i don't see the difference, john, and marc fogel missed out on the exchange that resulted in brittney griner's release, and then the 2024 prisoner exchange, which was quite extensive, as well. a lot of us felt, a lot of us who had served in moscow, and i have friends come i never met marc but i had friends who did, felt like it was a jury election of duty on our part on the previous administration's part that they did not secure mc fogel's release. should have been no reason, finally described marc fogel, jake sullivan did, wrongfully detained in august of 2021, way late in the process. there was never an adequate reason given for that, but again good on the trump administration for securing his release. it has been a busy couple of weeks here, john, obviously come on foreign policy with the trump administration, and we should

all be celebrating this success. >> sandra: just looking back at rep kelly, who has advocated strongly for his release, he notes in his most recent posting about vogel being a butler, pennsylvania, native, taught history and taught diplomats in milan, malaysia, russia, to go back to that date august 14th, 2021 when he was detained, he has been serving a 14 year hard labor sentence for possession, as you noted, dan, medical marijuana used to treat his severe back injury, charge very similar to that of wnba player brittney griner. so the statement has come out from the national security advisor mike waltz. i imagine is the president, we just saw and heard from him a moment ago, speaking there with the king of jordan, that we will hear more from the white house shortly. dan, obviously very big news. >> yeah, this is a great bit of news.

look, marc was teaching in since 2012. he is a teacher. that is all he was doing. it really does reflect on russia, dictatorship today, vladimir putin, operatives in the kremlin, that is how it works, wrongfully detaining u.s. citizens and getting the best deal possible, the release of viktor bout, the merchant of death who we had to trade to secure brittney griner's release. again, this is a great success. democrats and republicans and american citizens should be celebrating it, and i am sure there is more to come down the road. >> john: yeah, just for clarity, it was august 1st, 2024 that jake sullivan declared tha. so as i mentioned a moment ago, dan, this is an administration that is not given to exchanging high-value targets like

viktor bout or tens of millions or hundreds of millions of dollars for hostages. we are told this is a swap. do you have any idea what the swap might have constituted? >> i don't, and swap is sort of a satiric, john. it could be an individual. it could be some other sort of quid pro quo, where we might have agreed to do something, perhaps, that the russians may have appreciated. i just couldn't fathom -- the one thing about the trump administration, they are super creative about solving diplomatic challenges, so we will just have to wait and see what the facts are. regardless, this is a success. we got our guy out of russia, and his family will be pleased, and god bless them, even a day in a russian penal colony, that is just an awful experience, and i just hope he is going to be

able fully to recover from this. >> sandra: just looking at a recent article, a local article, to where he is from in pennsylvania, his mother is quoted, this was shortly after a bipartisan resolution was passed by the senate to call for his release, at the time his mother told the pittsburgh's action news, he is missed so much with his family. his youngest son graduated from college. of course, you didn't see that, the birthdays and wedding anniversary, and just really, really hard, and dan, you think about how hard this has obviously been on marc fogel himself, but on his family, as well. >> absolutely awful. look, we can just look at the case of evan gershkovich and the trauma his family suffered while he was behind enemy lines. this took incredible bipartisan work from the united states senators back in august of 2022

lobbying the state department to designate fogel as wrongfully detained. it took, as you noted, almost two years. the fogel family was very vocal speaking out and launched a petition calling for fogel's freedom. there was a lot of work that was done here, at the grassroots level, and also in the congress, and finally brought to fruition, thank goodness, with a positive result. >> john: so let me ask you, dan, to read the tea leaves here, because we have in this statement here language that says it was a sign of good faith from the russians and a sign of moving in the right direction in the brutal and terrible war in ukraine. there is a lot of talk that president trump may be close to some sort of deal with putin and zelenskyy, to bring end to this horrible conflict that has been going on for so many years. you know putin. you studied him. you were there in moscow as

station chief. what is your read on where we are in terms of ending this war? >> so this prisoner release is sort of a proof of concept that we might be able to sit down at the table with russia and iron out some of our differences. and if you think about the potential for a grand bargain, in the event that the war ends and we are able to proceed with some post-conflict reconstruction in ukraine, there is a potential for a grand bargain here, where we eliminate some of those sanctions against russia. there is not just a stick where we supply ukraine with more arms and more munitions. there is a carrot, too, provide mayor putin, who is dealing with a very unbalanced wartime economy, so there is a potential that we strike a deal and do so in such a way that russia may potentially be welcomed back into the world economy, and that would

certainly serve vladimir putin. the challenge for us, for retired general kellogg and for the trump administration, is seeing the world through putin's eyes. vladimir putin doesn't see casualties the way we do. he is perfectly willing to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of his own people to destroy any chance for democracy in ukraine. he wants to topple the government there. so this is going to be a very painstaking, challenging, complex, wickedly complex negotiation, but today this prisoner release may be portends for something potentially positive resulting from it. >> sandra: yeah, dan, thank you for jumping on the breaking news. we are going to have more as we learn more about this release coming up. dan hoffman joining us, thank you very much. i want to finish off by reading the second portion of the statement released from the national security advisor on this news, mike waltz.

it says since president trump's swearing-in he successfully secured the release of americans detained around the world and president trump will continue until all americans being held are returned to the united states. by tonight, marc fogel will be on american soil in reunited with his family and loved ones thanks to president trump's leadership. we are going to have more on we are going to have more on this theaking news after break.last we will be right back. just to see if you qualify for a home loan. yet, some lenders charge you hundreds of dollars in upfront fees just to apply. they keep your money even if they turn you down. call newday. unlike other lenders, at newday there's no upfront appraisal fee, no upfront termite inspection fee and no upfront water test fee. not $1 out of pocket. give us a call. after careful review of medical guidance and research on pain relief, my recommendation is simple: every home should have salonpas. powerful yet non-addictive. targeted and long-lasting. i recommend salonpas. it's good medicine.

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condition after their release. in very poor condition. malnourished, ill, and gaunt. people say they look more like they were in a concentration. on the house foreign affairs and armed services committee joins us now. i wanted to play this from the president yesterday. if i could, in the oval office, talking about his ultimatum to hamas. listen. >> they ought to be returned by 12:00 on saturday, and after that, i would say all hell is going to break out. >> are you speaking about retaliation from -- >> you'll find out and they will find out, too. so find out what i mean. they are going to find out what i mean. these are sick people, and they will find out what i mean, saturday at 12:00. >> john: so he did say after that that israel could override him, but in terms of all hell will break loose, what do you think that entails?

>> well, look, at the end of the day, isn't it great to finally have a leader who demonstrates strength against terrorist organizations like hamas and hezbollah, a far cry from what we saw in the previous administration who was constant asking for a cease-fire, israel to stop its actual right to its own defense. so the president exactly right. this organization of terrorists under hamas, this iranian-backed militia, has done nothing but try and show its aggression and it is time for the president to take a position to ensure the release of hostages, hamas is in direct violation if they continued the delay. as you mentioned, look at the emaciated way the hostages being returned to look. look at the conditions that are being done. i think they're trying to utilize the hostages as a continuation to bring themselves to the table for further negotiation, but i am confident that egypt is going to step up with qatar and jordan and others to be able to continue to see this cease-fire and make sure we get the hostages returned. we are seeing more hostage

returns during president trump's administration than ever before. we just saw another release of hostage from russia which had not happened under the previous administration. so i think we have to keep max pressure up. i think we have to ensure the cease-fire violation that are being called out have consequence. it was great to see the king of jordan meeting in the oval office with the president, excepting 2,000 sick children, which is such a beautiful thing to have done, and also talking about being willing to take in further palestinians to ensure the safety and no further violence comes. >> sandra: i was going to ask you about that meeting and what more you took from that, but relations obviously with jordan and how this is all going to transpire. >> king abdullah is an amazing leader. he has done so much for the kingdom of jordan. he has been a pivotal leader with even the normalization of israel as we saw in 1994 but i think his willingness to take in further refugees is a very, very

promising thing. i think his acceptance of the 2,000 children who need further medical aid is such a beautiful and synonymous thing for what jordan has been about, but i think also it removes and gives options, both for egypt and jordan, to get those palestinians who are not looking to be utilized as cannon fodder for hamas, who are not being utilized as human shields by the terrorist organization, i think that it shows a willingness to try to get people who are -- the palestinian people are not who we are after. it is hamas, the terrorist organization, so we are moving them out of the way to allow further operations if hamas determines that they won't release the hostage or want to violate the cease-fire, i think it is a very good move and i applaud the kingdom of jordan and egypt for continuing their steadfast approach to allies like the americans. >> john: of course, congressman, if you really want to deal with the hamas issue then you have to go straight to the head of the snake, which is in tehran. president trump thus far has suggested he would like to have

a cooperative rather than a confrontational relationship with tehran, but at what point does the rubber meets the road and you've got to tell the ayatollah and his minions if you don't stop this, he don't let us rebuild and bring peace to the middle east, it is on you? >> well, that's exactly right. the iranian regime must be held accountable. we need max pressure. way to ensure and force sanctions and guarantee that the people of iran and that diaspora is not labeled and linked into what this regime has been about which is a terrorist dictatorship, tyrannical rule, really murderous charge, if youe houthis and hamas and iraq, this is where the rubber meets the road, as you just put it. it is to hold max pressure against this regime and to ensure that we don't take our foot off the gas the way this last administration did while allowing sanctions to not be enforced like that of oil

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>> sandra: more on the breaking news out of the white house just moments ago as we learned together that marc fogel, an american teacher detained in russia, has been released. this is according to the white house just a short time ago, president trump along with steve witkoff, special envoy, they have left russian airspace with fogel, we are told.

history teacher from pennsylvania. his mother joins us now. by phone. thank you very much. john, we are still working and getting her on the phone. we are told we have her shortly, though. but what a remarkable day this is for marc fogel's family. >> john: he has been in russia since august of 2021 in custody. he entered the country, at the airport just outside of moscow, with a half an ounce of marijuana, and ever since then, his life has been a nightmare. apparently we have his mother with us on the phone. tell us your thoughts as you hear that your son is now in allied airspace after leaving russia and is finally coming home. >> sandra: okay, we're still working -- >> john: we still don't have the phone call. >> sandra: she is there somewhere and we are going to reestablish that connection because what a joyous day this is going to be for this family. fogel arrested in august 2021,

john. he has been serving a 14 year prison sentence. his family and supporters say at the time that he was arrested he was traveling with medically prescribed marijuana, a very small amount of that, had some back pain, back injuries that he was using this for. but mike waltz put out the statement, trump's national security advisor, said the u.s. and russia "negotiated in exchange to ensure fogel's release." they did not say what the u.s. side of the bargain entailed. but previous negotiations occasionally involved reciprocal releases of russians by the u.s. or its allies. we will await any further detail on that. just learning that marc fogel has left russian airspace. an amazing thing, john. >> john: remember the last time the case became public was in august of last year. the prisoner deal that got evan gershkovich back home.

the biden administration was trying to get marc fogel out, as well, but they couldn't, russia had its heels dug in on his release, for what reason we don't know, but now the trump administration has managed to pry the russians loose. they say this is a swap, this is a deal that shows good faith on russia's part, and actually may show some sign that russia may be willing to come to the table and cut a deal over ukraine. our alex hogan is live in london. she has been following this. aside from the fact that marc fogel finally gets to come home after four years in captivity, alex, what are the bigger implications of this? >> well, this is going to be a sign, especially hope for so many other families in the u.s. who have been desperately waiting and wondering if their loved ones who have been incarcerated in russia could eventually be part of some future negotiation. to give a little more background to our viewers, who marc fogel is, again as you mentioned he is

a teacher from pennsylvania. he is also someone who spent a lot of his career working international schools around the world, and he moved to moscow in 2012 with his family, his wife and his two sons. he was a teacher at this american school. he also was a softball coach, a big passion of his, and we have heard a lot about how he is this very happy go lucky man, and it was in 2021 where he was arrested for those drug charges, possession of medical marijuana in one of his bags that was found at the moscow airport. he reportedly had a prescription from the u.s., from doctors in the u.s. for chronic pain, so because of that he was sentenced to 14 years behind bars. i know you have been reading part of this statement from trump's national security advisor mike waltz, but i think what you mentioned, it is important to kind of reiterate this part that we are hearing, quote, saying the president's advisors negotiated in exchange that is a good show of faith, that is really going to be what

a lot of families in the u.s. listen to tonight. john and sandra? >> sandra: absolutely. alex hogan reporting on this breaking news for us. we will likely get more information about fogel's release as he makes his way back home. alex, thank you. john? >> john: morgan news for america this tuesday afternoon. meantime, defending d.o.g.e. the trump administration sticking by the department aiming to cut government waste despite major pushback from democrats. kerri urbahn, joe concha here to break down some of the hurdles that the president is facing. that is just ahead. >> democrats are raising the alarm. we are making all of the noise that we can. >> we just have to contain to hammer away, it takes time and persistence. >> that is a constitutional crisis and that, by the way, is how dictators come into power, so the organizing in the streets is very, very, very important. i'm not an actor. i'm just a regular person. after working 25 years in the automotive industry, i retired. eight years ago, i just didn't feel like i was on my game.

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