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their party response to president trump's government shake-up by threatening to shut it down. >> sandra: yep, and is elon musk d.o.g.e. looks for ways to slash spending and save american taxpayers money, democrats have come out swinging in defense of those bureaucrats. take a listen to some of what we have already heard from them so far today. >> that is why my fellow members out here in the cold. because we are not too cold to fight back. >> the chaos and the corruption at the white house continues unabated. >> i think we have a lot of work to do. it's not going to be easy because we are facing i think a real constitutional crisis. >> the attack on you, the attack on the civil service, is unacceptable. unconscionable. un-american. and we are going to stand with you. >> sandra: all right, welcome back as "america reports" and i just took your opening line, john roberts, good to be with you, i am sandra smith in new york. >> john: i know, things are moving so fast, sandra, we are

kind of all over the place a little bit, but we are drilling down. i am john roberts in washington. there is so much going on this afternoon, you are not going to want to miss a minute of it. >> sandra: a lot of news breaking last hour and it will continue. d.o.g.e. continue its work even in the face of legal challenges and blue state judges now throwing wrenches into two of the departments signature policies. >> john: fox news team coverage kicks off, carry kerri urbahn with legal analysis and joe concha on how democratse responding. >> sandra: first alexandria hoff in washington. alex, what legal hurdles is are they facing? >> what legal hurdles have they been spared from? challenges largely filed in progressive states and districts. yesterday an example in boston, a federal judge issued a temporary rule pausing the president's federal buyout program, the downsizing effort gave federal workers the opportunity to do resigned with pay and benefits continuing through september 30th. argued in court the

administration lacks the authority to make such an offer. so far about 65,000 workers have taken that deal. the government argued that it has the right to manage its workforce and its spending. that is were elon musk and d.o.g.e. comes in. d.o.g.e. stated online that it has terminated $881 million in department of education contracts. president trump set a look into the military is next. >> the military. let's check. we are going to find hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud and abuse. and you know, the people elected me on that. >> elected him on that waste cutting. "the new york times" highlighting that a washington judge will consider a legal challenge to the department of education data that is being accessed by d.o.g.e. another case and another blue state, a judge in rhode island has demanded that the administration comply with his prior order to immediate the unfreeze federal funding across the government. trump official pause the funding to look for fraud. judge stated that fraud has to

be found first. today the president said efforts to slow down his agenda is coming from "highly political judges." sandra? >> sandra: alex, thank you very much. john? >> john: let's dig deeper with fox news legal editor kerri urbahn. some breaking news out of new york. judge jeanette vargas clarifying the order that she put out a week ago, ten days ago, saying nobody could get access to the treasury payment system except for career officials, a couple of them at treasury, she has no? >> in fact the a treasury secretary can access data at his own agency. i'm a little concerned this judge in this case is causing a bit of a constitutional crisis. the fact -- i actually mean t that. >> john: democrats believe the president is doing it but maybe it is the courts. >> it is, tremendous gaslighting friendly by the democrats, i think the conversation -- >> john: that would be new.

>> the conversation, there should be much more conversation about how the judiciary is interfering with a coequal branch of government. the executive branch in their exercising of their legitimate function and authority and in this particular situation i think the treasury department situation illustrates it the best. the fact that a judge is unilaterally deciding that political appointees -- these are federal government employees -- >> john: confirmed by the senate, some of them. >> no, they are not confirmed by the senate -- >> john: political appointees. >> their federal government employees, that they can't do their job and access data at the treasury department? that's unheard of, john, it is unprecedented. this idea, i have seen this up there in some places, some of these government employees and political appointees aren't directly employed -- when i went to the deferment of justice, i was detailed to white house counsel's office, had a badge and a white house email, and this was for brett kavanaugh's confirmation.

why was i detailed there? because they were taking employees from political appointees from various agencies to work on a special project. that project was brett kavanaugh's confirmation. here, d.o.g.e. is doing the same thing. they are pulling employees to work on a whole of government basically audited and for a judge to interfere in such a legitimate function of the federal government, it's really disturbing. >> john: trump is obviously not too happy about it, posted on truth social, billions of dollars of fraud waste and abuse has already been found in the investigation of our incompetently-run government. now political activist judges want us to slow down or stop. losing momentum will be detrimental to finding the truth which is turning out to be a disaster for those involved in running our government. much to find. no excuses. the president runs the executive department. treasury is part of the executive department. congress appropriates the money, treasury puts it out there, and the agencies decide to a large

degree on where it goes. i am sure that transgender surgeries in guatemala being funded by usaid was not earmarked from congress. usaid decided to do that. why can't the executive -- lookt this stuff? >> of course he can, and donald trump won the election and how our government works is that the person who wins the election appoints people to work in the federal government who drive their political agenda. career employees are vital to the functioning of day-to-day operations of the government, no question there, but the political employees who are also federal government employees are responsible for implementing and driving that political agenda, and so judge is interfering in that function, i would say is usurping the democratic process. and by the way, where are the inspectors general all these years? d.o.g.e. uncovered in the past month, route waste, fraud, and abuse. d.o.g.e. less than a month, same reports from the ig's, you have to wonder what they have been up

to and i think they can take a lesson from d.o.g.e. and get back to the basics. >> john: elon musk is a unique force to be reckoned with, no question about that, and then the democrats are screaming from the rooftops that this is creating a constitutional crisis. what trump is doing is illegal. that they are going to be fighting in the streets to stop this. in the meantime, they are doing all of this standing in front of federal employees, who as you point out to a large degree are very necessary but don't necessarily garner a lot of sympathy among rank-and-file americans who voted for trump to change the process and shake up washington. remember what our voter analysis found. it found the majority of people wanted wholesale change in d.c. and the democrats are preventing it from happening. >> that's right, and democrats, as much as they would like for the judgment of career officials to supplant that of the political appointees, that is not how our government works. elections have consequences. this is just the way it is. and this interference of article three with article to power is

just remarkable. >> john: all right, see how it all shakes out because i suspect at some point it is going to end up in the building just in front of the capitol. good to see you, kerri. sandra? >> sandra: president trump now calling for the abolishment of fema. he claims the disaster aid agency left north carolina stranded in the wake of hurricane helene. prioritizing blue state funding instead. he took to truth social today to rip fema, calling it "totally ineffective and a disaster." trump's push to terminate fema comes as d.o.g.e. exposes the agency for pouring millions into migrant housing in new york city. meanwhile, hurricane devastated north carolinians cannot help but feel neglected. >> i was on the phone with a woman yesterday who all of her roads are down. her bridge is down. and that is probably the fourth bridge story i have heard in the past few days. and they have gotten zero help. zero help from fema. >> it is just maddening.

i feel like we were completely left behind. people tried to silence us. people tried to say, like you said, it's not that bad. i'll tell you right now, it is that bad. my kids see it on our way to school every day. you are not going to make anyone feel better in western north carolina by saying there is a giant pot of money for illegal immigrants but not for you. that is not going to work. >> sandra: man, i don't know how you it's plain that to people who are out in the cold, i mean, still, to this day, to hurricane helene and yet we are housing people here illegally in the states, some of them criminals, in warm hotel rooms, john. >> john: and they are nice hotel rooms in new york city, as well. in the meantime there are people who are living in western north carolina, some of them still in tents, others in tiny little houses that barely have enough room to move around and but better than living out in a nothing, or they are getting kicked out of hotels. and you think $59 million would go a long way to helping them. imagine the relief and

assistance it could give people in pacific palisades who don't have a home and need some place to stay. you can see that the outrage is pretty legitimate on the part of people who are saying, what about us? why aren't we being treated the same way? clearly it is something that this and administration cares a lot about because they fired four of the dhs employees involved in the allocation of this money. >> sandra: you look back on these pictures and realize that not a lot has changed for some of these people in some of these areas still living in complete and utter devastation, john, and can only imagine what all of the money, all of that taxpayer money that is going to people who are here illegal for long periods of time what it could do for those folks struggling in north carolina. joining us with reaction is fox news contributor joe concha. your heart breaks when you see this. >> i was supposed to be in asheville the day helene hits and i am still in contact with some folks down there that i was going to visit, and what those

folks were describing a "fox & friends" as far as look, sandra, this wasn't five days ago this happened, five weeks, we are coming up on five months since that storm devastated western north carolina, and people still are sleeping in tents? still not having the basic services that they need. now thankfully president trump went there and obviously we have other folks, j.d. vance, as well, where the resources will finally get there but the question is why is it taken so long? so when donald trump says i want to eliminate fema and get power back to the states and localities, am sure folks everywhere from rocco wanted to california and everywhere in between would say that is probably a good idea. >> sandra: some asking have democrats learned nothing him at baker's new column, standing up for the bureaucrats against d.o.g.e., whose idea was it to save chuck schumer and have chuck schumer lead a protest outside the treasury? he asks? picture it, the democrats, one time tribunes of the people, fiercely defending government employees from the taxpayers.

the party of the oppressed putting it all on the line to protect federal bureaucrats from the people they are supposed to serve. hello, reminder. >> seriously. john mentioned before, fox news analysis showing 83% of people in this country want wholesale changes to the government. the story from a journalism perspective, sandra, is not who is finding the waste and corruption, elon musk and d.o.g.e., it is what they are finding and it is extensive, it is corrupt, and this is what the american people voted for. democrats want to hold rallies in washington, d.c., at the root of corruption around federal employees, no, we actually don't support finding waste at this point. they are on the wrong side of an 80-20 issue. >> sandra: joe, good to have you. we have breaking news, more on marc fogel, the american teacher detained in russia has been released. the white house announcing this a short time ago. john? >> john: let's bring in marc fogel's mother. thank you for joining us. this has got to be a pretty good

day for your family. >> it is absolutely a good day. >> sandra: malphine, thank you so much for joining us. have you been able to connect with your son yet? have you spoken with him? >> he called me earlier today saying he was in a moscow airport and waiting to fly to washington, d.c. that was the last i heard. >> john: so malphine, did you know that any of this was in the works? >> absolutely none. no, i did not know this. i just have had a better feeling the last couple of days, and i don't know why, but anyway, it was a total surprise when he called and he said he was in the moscow airport, so that meant they had taken him out of the prison in moscow. >> john: so tell us, when the phone rang and you picked it up and he said "hi, mom, it's mark,

i'm in an airport, i'm coming home," and you didn't know anything about this, you must have about dropped the phone. >> well absolutely -- first of all, i couldn't hear too clearly, and he has a habit of always greeting me with the words that mean "good day" in italian, he never calls that early in the morning, who else calls you and says that? it was mark waiting in the airport and just beside himself, and i just had no clue, no clue. >> sandra: malphine, none of us can even imagine what you must be feeling right now. i want to reach through the street and give you a great big hug. at sounds like mother's intuition. >> well, you know what, the last week or so, for some crazy reason, i had a better feeling about things, when i hadn't heard from him in a week, so i

thought that was odd, and when he called this morning, it was just a total shock, first of all because of the time he called, with the news, so it's just, you know, an unbelievable situation. right now we are just waiting and waiting to get him into the u.s. i think the first thing he'll do is stoop down and kissed the ground. >> john: oh, i'm sure he will. >> yeah, he -- >> john: so what have the last four years, malphine, been like for you? not knowing what he has been going through, not being able to talk to him except occasionally, knowing he was being sent to these infamous russian penal colonies. >> you know, i never had the feeling he was being mistreated, though. i would ask him what he had to eat and how he felt. he never ever ever complained.

except when they put him in the hospital, he didn't like that because he didn't know what they were doing, and he had no translator. but he has never really complained about anything except being there, you know, sparse cas far asconditions, he never d anything about them. i have no idea if they were good, bad, or otherwise. he was just beside himself when he called, waiting in the russian airport, because they had taken him out of the prison, so he knew something was going on, and, you know, it's just an incredible relief to know he is on his way home. as i understand it, he was flying to washington, d.c., and then from there i think to pittsburgh, but i'm not certain of all the plans.

i think he is supposed to be in washington sometime tonight. >> sandra: reading the statement, by tonight marc fogel will be on american soil and reunited with his family and loved ones. i can only imagine the urgency of all who are with him to make sure that he sees you soon, his mother. >> well, you know what, i want to see him as badly as i can possibly feel, but i want him to be with his family, his wife and his two boys, they are the ones that have suffered the most and have lived a terrible three and a half years, so my wish is that they get to go there and have a really good reunion, and then i will see him after that. as long as i know he is on american soil, i'm happy. >> john: i know, malphine, there was a lot of hope a few months ago back in august when evan gershkovich was released that marc might be coming home with him, unfortunately that

didn't happen. it felt to this administration to get it done. and i know that you were there in butler, pennsylvania, on that fateful day. >> i met president trump, and he was just as cordial as he could be, and he told me three different times, if i get in, he said, i'll get him out, and i really think he has been instrumental, rubio and -- i can't think of the other person's name that i wanted to say -- but anyway, i really feel they were instrumental in getting this to happen. >> sandra: i assume you mean steve witkoff. >> pardon? >> john: there is a chance he is watching or will see this. what would you like to say to president trump. >> i would like to thank him profusely. he promised me he would get him out, and he kept his promise, and i can't thank him enough and secretary rubio, also, and anybody else who has had a hand in this, i am sure there were quite a few that got the ball

rolling, but i particularly want to thank president trump. >> sandra: malphine, if i could ask you one last question, about the, in general, the situation over there, as waltz in his statement from the white house announcing your son's return said this is a development, a sign we are moving in the right direction to end the brutal war in ukraine. >> you faded out on me, i didn't hear the question. >> sandra: in the statement -- >> are you there? >> sandra: malphine, in this statement from the white house, it was described as an a development, your son's release, as a sign we are moving in the right direction to end the brutal and terrible war in ukraine. i wonder, with all the time you have had to think about this, if you would like to leave us off with a thought on that. >> well, you know, nobody wants to see the war go on. i just hope there is enough expertise and enough feeling in

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>> john: two aircraft carrying nearly 200 venezuelans officially returning home after entering the u.s. illegally, all under president trump's mass deportation plan. but the south american country refusing to acknowledge the presidents of tren de aragua on u.s. soil peered let's bring in former el paso u.s. marshal and retired deputy chief of the el paso police department. so here was the announcement from the white house, repatriation flights to venezuela have resumed with ambassador richard grenell overseeing the first two flights, make america safe again. but at the same time they are allowing illegal migrants to come back to venezuela, they are saying nothing to see here they don't have a tren de aragua problem, and the united states is casting aspersions on us by saying so. what do you say?

>> i'll tell you what, completely full, first of all. the country of venezuela definitely knows they have tren de aragua. september of last year, 2024, matter of fact, the military and law enforcement rated a prison in the state of aragua, the prison, and there were several tren de aragua gang members there, and somebody in the venezuelan government leaked the raid, the information about the raid, to the people in jail, many tren de aragua, and because of that several tren de aragua gang members were able to escape, including their leader, so they absolutely know they have a big problem with tren de aragua, they are committing a lot of crimes out there, so that is completely, completely false. >> sandra: all of that despite the venezuelan government's statements on these flights, saying this is a malicious narrative surrounding so-called

tren de aragua, planted by the media and representatives of the administration of the previous president joe biden in an attempt to penalize and stigmatize all venezuelan migrants and attack venezuela. your reaction to that? >> well, again, completely false. again, they are not saying -- and nobody has ever said -- that it is all venezuelans that have come to the united states. we are specifically talking about a certain group, an extremely dangerous group that are over here committing murders, raping people, involved in all kinds of crime, including human trafficking and drug trafficking. so they know they have a problem, so they need to get that out about us talking about the venezuelan community in general, that is completely false. they are lying, and they are trying to, i guess, save the image of venezuela, and that is not the way to do it because not

only the united states knows it but the entire world knows that tren de aragua is in venezuela. >> john: you take a look at florida, 400,000 venezuelans live in miami across the state of florida, many of them very successful, some of them own media empires. it would seem as though trump really is here talking about the worst of the worst, the gang members they are trying to get back. i want to ask you, robert, because you are in law enforcement, both these leaks that have been stymieing i.c.e. removal operations. here's what tom homan said on mornings, listen. >> there is information that tends to show, the california operation may have been someone in the fbi. i have talked to the deputy attorney general. we talked every day, we talked about opening up a criminal investigation. when we find these people and we have the evidence to support prosecution, that is exactly what is going to happen. >> john: whoever was behind the leaking is on notice and i wanted to ask you this question.

what about this idea that tom homan and secretary of homeland security kristi noem and may be pam bondi all believe this leak is coming from within the fbi. and what is the effect of these leaks when trying to conduct a law enforcement investigation? >> well, first of all, there has got to be some credibility to what they said. they are not going to come out and make a statement like that unless they already have some concrete evidence from the preliminary investigation. so i have no doubt they are right. secondly, i spent 31 years in law enforcement working the streets. i am still involved in law enforcement, training law enforcement officers around the country, all these heroes, and this angers me to the core. this really angers me because these fbi agents that are involved basically, they are traitors to the united states. not only that, they are

jeopardizing the safety of their fellow law enforcement officers. and some of those officers include fbi agents that are going to participate in these raids and probably honest fbi agents, and there are fbi agents out there, i know that, i worked with them throughout my career. >> sandra: robert, thanks so much. >> thank you very much. >> john: thank you, robert. >> sandra: this brand-new video, defense secretary pete hegseth greeting service numbers on the ground as part of his first trip overseas, getting a workout in the meantime. looking at key issues on the docket as he meets with nato allies. plus this. >> i don't want to do two and then we do another two in another week and then we do four, three weeks. they either have them out by saturday at 12:00, or all bets are off. >> john: president trump calling for new terms in the israel-hamas cease-fire deal and promising hell will break out if hamas does not hand over all the

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counterterrorism during the first trump administration. let's start with this ultimatum to hamas and here's what the president said in his meeting with abdullah earlier today. >> i have a saturday deadline. i don't think they're going to make the deadline, personally. i think they want to play tough guy. but we will see how tough they are. i don't want to do two and then we do another two in another week and then we do four and three weeks, they either have them out by saturday at 12:00, or all bets are off. >> john: so he is fed up with the trips and drafts nature of the hostage release. he is also headed up to to here with hamas. if hamas does not make good on this new deadline, apparently netanyahu is with him on this, but if hamas does not make the deadline, then what? >> i think hamas is going to find out. i think they don't want to find out. look, we shouldn't be surprised at the play that hamas is making here. we are threatening they are threatening to blowup .

>> john: that is really a surprise, isn't it? >> stop me you of heard this one before, terrorist group lies and goes back on its word. the president is saying you're not going to honor the terms of the deal you agreed to, we are not bound by it, either, israel will take the gloves off. the reason we have a cease-fire deal in the first place was because of punishing, crippling military pressure that israel brought to bear on hamas. do you really think moss wants to go back to the bad old days of hellfire and brimstone? we are about to find out. >> john: i assume whatever the president does in response likely wouldn't involve u.s. troops on the ground in gaza, or would it? >> probably not. i think the white house has been very clear, we don't want the united states to be embroiled in another middle eastern war. white house has said over the past couple of days as we were talking more about gaza, no u.s. boots on the ground. there are a lot of things the united states can do that are

short of a full-scale boots on the ground invasion that can a apply pressure to hamas. maybe that means supporting israel, providing weapons and intelligence, but we can also take drone strikes against hamas leadership -- with left of it, i should say. because don't forget, hamas has killed thousands of americans, not just israelis have interest in destroying this group, we do, too. >> john: going after hamas, like whac-a-mole, and if you really want to get to hamas, i'm not sure that president trump knows this, you go to tehran. >> needs to be part of the conversation. hamas is funded by iran. it receives weapons from iran, training from iran, and i thinkf we are going to be serious about the next phase of gaza, whatever that is going to look like, it has to mean we are going to reduce, eliminate ultimately, the role of iran in the region. wherever iran touches, bloodshed follows, true in lebanon, true in yemen, unfortunately true in

the west bank and gaza, too. >> john: i want to go to pete hegseth's trip to europe, first time he has been over there, pressing the nato conference, a number of other organizations over there, i assume he is going to the munich conference at the end of the week. president trump has said it is time for nato to pony up more money, 5% of gdp. here is what hegseth said earlier. >> friends talking to friends about capability and leadership and stepping up, about burden sharing and the incentives to say the european continent deserves to be safe from any aggression but also those in the neighborhood investing the most in that collective and individual defense. >> john: he is used to talking on tv, so an audience comes natural to him.

hegseth as secretary of defense and trump policies going over in europe with this first visit? >> i think they're going to be focused on results, and the result we need is more investment from europe in europe's own defense. look, the united states has an interest in europe being at peace and stable and major threat to that is russia. the way to stop russia from continuing to meddle in europe is to signal to them you will pay an exorbitant price if you test us. they are not going to believe us if we just use words but if our western european allies in particular put their money where their mouth is that can establish deterrence. >> john: a statement from michael waltz, this is a good sign, russia willing to play ball, so is that an opening? >> time will tell. the russians do not do this kind of thing for free. i would like to see what they think they are getting in return and how that sets the stage for negotiations over ukraine. >> john: see where it goes from here. thank you. sandra? >> sandra: president trump signing off on new tariffs for steel and aluminum imports

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>> simplifying our tariffs on steel and aluminum so everyone can understand exactly what it means. it is 25% without exceptions or exemptions. and that's all countries no matter where it comes from, all countries. if made in the united states, however, the united states of america, there is no tariff, zero, so if it is made in the united states, there is no tariff. all you have to do is make it in the united states. >> sandra: that was president trump and his new executive order placing tariffs on all steel and aluminum imports here in the united states. adversaries abroad are

frustrated with this move and are already saying they plan to respond peered tightly bow, ceo of logistics deal, joins us now. you know this industry very well. how is this going to affect things here at home? >> there is always opposing views of where you sit in the supply chain so you are hearing reports and want to understand how it is really impacting the industry, domestic steel prices are down over 35% in the last 12 months. we have seen imports increase over 26% over that period of time, at the same time we see added domestic capacity so there in lies the issue in terms of capacity with imports coming up, contracting environment, pricing, something has to give and it has not been healthy for the steel industry domestically. >> sandra: how has it been for you and your company? >> i mean, we provided added

value services of the last 12 months have been tough. you are incentivized to carry inventory and support your customers and the prices continue to fall. the tariffs will help in terms of create a healthier steel environment here. the biggest question is how does it impact demand and the consumer? when you look at steel prices going back to 2021 and 2022, they were much higher and demand was healthier at that time. from our perspective we don't see the tariffs having an impact on demand and these tariffs specifically also address downstream finished goods. at the same time from a consumer standpoint steel prices were much higher previously and those were absorbed in the market so we don't feel like higher steel prices are going to impact demand or the consumer. >> sandra: got it. appreciate you joining us, good to get perspective on all of that as we continue to watch those tariffs play out. thank you so much. quick break. we will be right back

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hostage affairs, adam boehler, on the flight within peered we are working to get a photograph of him on board the playing in just a second but first of all his mother malphine joined us earlier admit a chance to speak with her about happy she is to finally be getting marc back home. >> he called me earlier today saying he was in a moscow airport and waiting to fly to washington, d.c., and that was the last i heard of. was an incredible relief to know he is on his way home. as i understand it, for telling his story, and hopefully he will get home in a few hours. >> john: and here is the photo i told you was posted by adam boehler, who is very familiar to folks who watch this program, had him on a number of times. marc fogel on the aircraft there. having some sort of a drink.

if it was me, it would be bourbon, and then a little snack, some grapes on his plate along with some cheese. what a moment for him, what a moment for his family, sandra p it a lot of reaction, senator fetterman's, i know all of pennsylvania especially his family will be welcoming him back with open arms, he commencd steve witkoff for their efforts finally bringing mark home. governor josh shapiro weighing in after more than three years in russian captivity, federal partners and all pennsylvanians welcoming marc fogel home exactly where he belongs. thanking those at the white house for making this possible, this release possible. >> john: i thought it was interesting, too, his mother, malphine, talked to us about the day she met president trump in butler, pennsylvania, at the presidential rally there and that the president promised that he would get marc fogel home. this after the biden administration tried to get him

out, along with evan gershkovich back in august of last year, but was unable to. russia had its heels dug in, but somehow, sandra, the president managed to pry the russians' heels out of the mud, and fogel is on his way back peered. >> sandra: we thank his mother for coming on. she is going to let him spend time with his family, wife and children first, then wants to see him and she wants him to be so sore because he received so many hugs in his welcome home. >> john: yep. amazing, too, when you think she met president trump in butler, pennsylvania, the day that he nearly got shot dead by an assassin. and now marc fogel is coming home. promise made, promise kept. >> sandra: welcome back. >> john: we'll be right back. philosophize about it, there's one thing you don't have enough of, and that's time. time is a truly scarce commodity. when you come to that realization, i think it's very important to spend time wisely. and what better way of spending time than traveling,

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this press conference relates to multi-account, multi-indictment unsealed today involving ties to tda, the violent venezuelan gang, human trafficking and commercial, we will be watching for that. >> so much for venezuela trying to stigmatize the country. the proof is in the pudding there. that is not what's happening, some bad people in this country doing bad things. >> i have to take a deep breath, a busy two hours. thank you to our team for the hustle. >> didn't i warn you it would be a busy week? now it is snowing outside. >> oh, boy. tom holman joining us live tomorrow as well. >> thank you for joining us. i'm tom robert. >> and i'm sandra smith.