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12th and this is "fox & friends." we begin with a fox news alert. we are watching for another hostage release after trump greeted mark fogel back to the united states. >> brian: we talked to his sister about three years in russian detention and the trump official that brokered the deal, just ahead. >> emily: plus, remember scenes like this under president biden? today is a different story. and we have the numbers to prove it. >> steve: that's right. and government efficiency meet government transparency. elon musk and donald trump making sure taxpayers are no longer in the dark. >> just cursory examination of social security and we got people in there that are 150 years old. now, do you know anyone who is 150? i don't know. >> steve: he might be making that up.
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he might just be making that up. second hour of "fox & friends" with emily compagno starts right now. >> steve: all right. just in a couple of hours, the full senate is expected to vote on tulsi gabbard's nomination as the director of national intelligence. this comes after a planned midnight vote was scrapped because it was snowing in washington. >> lawrence: brooke singman has the latest on that story, good morning, brooke. >> tulsi gabbard is expected to be confirmed as director of national intelligence later this morning. gabbard has support from hesitant republicans like maine senator susan collins and alaska senator lisa murkowski. those two have a reputation for going against their party. and they both voted against defense secretary pete hegseth. collins is also considered a key vote for robert f. kennedy jr. she revealed she does plan to support his nomination for secretary of health and human services. now, the senate is scheduled to invoke cloture today, to limit debate on kennedy's nomination.
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and that could get him closer to getting confirmed within the next few days. so this all comes as the judiciary committee is also preparing to send kash patel's nomination for fbi director to the senate floor. that is expected to happen tomorrow. meanwhile, linda mcmahon's confirmation hearing for secretary of education is also set for tomorrow. and democrats are already questioning her experience. guys? >> steve: we expected that all right. brooke, thank you very much. >> brian: pretty great for tulsi that she has won over collins and murkowski, it's pretty amazing. going to float through. they wanted to do it last night. the snow stopped it. this is going to be great. we need her yesterday, director of national intelligence. i love what lisa murkowski said a breath of fresh air, fresh eyes, democrat, certainly got the military background. i think that in a couple of years, there are a few people going to emerge as stars. no one expects it guys like rubio. i think she is going to be the surprise.
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>> lawrence: the one interesting thing about her of course some of the pushback against her some of the people in the committee is where she stood on classified information. who was a freedom fighter versus who was a traitor. i think if you want reforms in the system, if you want a more credible agency, if you want a whistleblower protections, then you want to be under her. if you feel like something is going wrong, people are going to feel comfortable letting her know because they know she is protect the classified information. as well as protect them as well. i think that's -- that's the change you need in these agencies. >> steve: you know, what is interesting about -- as we look at the last tranche of the cabinet nominees go up for confirmation, remember when the very beginning when we first got the names of everybody, and, you know, people were going this person is problematic and stuff like that, the only one that got bounced really was matt gaetz. >> lawrence: that was expected. dead on arrival. >> steve: he was still nominated he just didn't make it to the hearing room. everybody else, all of the
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people who it was suggested would have a rough time and might not get through, pete, tulsi, r.f.k. jr., they are going to wind up getting the jobs. >> emily: i think what this hallmarks is that unified front that the g.o.p. needed to have to move this forward. >> steve: exactly. >> emily: at the end of the day you don't remember the score you remember that you won. >> lawrence: so true. >> emily: while nominations were sticky at times. pushed it through and now reap the benefits of the breath of fresh air that all of these -- >> steve: right, i was going to say you got figure crump is working the phone. hey, i hear you are leaning the other way. i would really like your help. >> brian: j.d. vance. >> lawrence: i hear he is masterful at it and coaching the nominees to go through the process and respect the process. didn't see at love nominees attacking the senators. they went through the process when they were being challenged. >> brian: let's pivot if we can to what happened last night it. cost us gutfeld but it was worth
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it. we had sean hannity for a couple hours because he would had the release of mark fogel. in 2011 he went over to moscow to teach at an american academy there. and obviously gradually russia became very anti-west. they don't wall around them. do you know going to be targeted right after afghanistan by the invasion. i think the day afghanistan, we got out of afghanistan is when he was taken. and he was kept against his will. wrong for the wrong reason. he had a very small bit of marijuana with him. medical marijuana for a back injury. they decided to put him in jail and penal colony. and despite all the efforts, supposedly made by the biden administration. he was left behind over and over again. and number 10. the 10th hostage comes home since donald trump took over three weeks ago. here is how it sounded as he called donald trump his -- basically his xavier.
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savior:>> i feel like the luckin on earth right now and i want you to know i'm not a hero in this at all. and president trump is a hero. these men that came from the diplomatic service are heroes. the senators and representatives pappas legislation to get me home are the heroes. i am in awe of what they all did. my family has been a force. i think my 95-year-old mother is probably the most dynamic 95-year-old on earth right now. and i am so indebted to so many
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people. >> he has a great mother. and when i saw the mother at a rally, she said if you win, will you get my son out? i promised -- she is 95 years old. i said we will get him out. we got him out pretty quickly. >> she told me that exact words. >> she made quite an impression. >> and you also did. i'm in awe of what have you done. >> it's great to have you back. you are going to have a great life there is a moment where mark gets emotional and the president puts his hands on his shoulder. it's stuff like that that rallied the american people, not what he is doing with elon musk but going to get our people. it's not blue or red. it is american. and americans were held hostage forgotten. brian, we were going back and forth on who had the greater charge, him or brittney griner. and he was there first. but we went and got brittney
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griner first. >> brian: higher profile. >> lawrence: doesn't make sense. the president is lifting the vale of all of that and saying this is an american. let's go get him back home and another one that is supposed to do come back home today as well. >> brian: we had to go get paul whelan, too. somebody out of berlin. >> steve: we don't know what we gave up. the president said it wasn't much. sounds like on the verge of something else. they don't want to tell us where this person is from. they never announce it until they are out of that country's airspace. what is interesting. and speaking of forgotten. things that are forgotten. it's amazing that donald trump remembered that story about talking to the mother because he talked to mr. fogel's 95-year-old mother and there she is yesterday shoe looks goods. >> steve: she does look good and very happy. obviously. he talked to her at the rally in butler, pennsylvania, july 13th, the day he has shot.
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he talked to her earlier and got shot. did he not forget. he did not forget that promise. one of the things, mr. trump did yesterday, was he criticized the biden administration for not making it happen sooner. >> brian: senator mccormick. >> steve: some of us wondering what was going on behind the scenes. >> emily: to your point the memory behind that gesture memory recall. all of this because the president is the president of the people. when you contrast that with a prior two presidents, you know, president biden, hoax changed the merchant of death for an nba star headlines questioned at the time was this the right call? where is here it is oncology throw vertable this was absolutely the right call. this is bringing an american home for not cutting off our arm to do so. might portend openings in the ukraine war. the point is we hold the power. again, under the obama administration, how long it took to pass the magnus ski act as if the presidential figure totally insulated not able to talk to
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totally separate from the american people. president who is intimate and says i see you, i won't forget you. 10 hostages in three weeks. that's extraordinary. >> steve: unbelievable. >> brian: i would love to get the details as best we can with that three hour conversation with putin and witkoff. >> lawrence: i know. >> brian: i noticed mark did not say anything bad about his captivity. still processing it. gave a compliment to he got some coaching. >> steve: don't bad-mouth him. >> brian: we don't need this right now because the next sending in north koreans, not leaving you like rare earth? got it do a deal. $500 billion get us arms and aid let's do it. be trans axal about it. >> emily: what pete hegseth said
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we are not putting american troops in ukraine. unequivocally there is a very strong line fight should it happen. that's what everyone is trying to examine. anne fogel mark fogel's sister coming up. steve witkoff coming up. and maybe details about this other hostage we could hear going to be coming out. we have no confirmation. adam boehler yesterday coordinating all hostage releases around the world, he says something is coming down today. >> lawrence: one thing we are learning about and we have been to the border with the secretary of defense last week as well as homeland security secretary kristi noem and the border is closed. it is locked down and we are learning that 93 -- it's down the crossings, i think the got away numbers are down by 93%. that just shows you the efforts that the administration is
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making is working. >> steve: right. this is trump versus biden, as can you see the top 2 numbers. biden administration in fiscal year 2023. 1800 a day right now it is at 132. that is down. >> lawrence: unheard of. >> steve: tom homan yesterday said interior enforcement, in other words, the number of people who are being apprehended here within the interior of the united states, is three times higher than it was a year ago. but, at the same time, there are a couple stories out there this morning that apparently the white house is not crazy about the numbers. they would like to see the numbers bigger. apparently the white house has stopped giving out the daily numbers. they are frustrated that the numbers of the people being deported are not big enough, not fast enough to get what -- where the president wanted it to be, where it would be millions deported. and yesterday, two top ice
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officials were removed from their jobs. one went back to the field office in d.c. the other to minneapolis or saint paul. >> brian: wants $157 billion, does tom homan, needed to complete the u.s.-mexican border wall. he says i have got hire more law enforcement agencies. senator lindsey graham says if a republican congress can't deliver this on the border, why are we even here you? are 100 percent right. you have people in the house that don't want to vote for anything that has to do with spending, which i think they have got to get their act together. they really could use extra seats, one from stefanik, one from matt gaetz. repatriation fights venezuela, first one in a couple years. they thought that was going to be impossible, too. i personally am not worried about the pace. i just know how dangerous it is to go into these buildings with these ice guys. the ice guys go after criminals usually armed with nothing to lose. i like the pace. think about the not coming because you are cracking down
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that has a lot to do with these numbers. >> lawrence: i just message at senior ice official. figure out who this leaker is. >> brian: out in california? >> lawrence: who is messing up. the source just told me he says ice needs a culture of accountability that has been starved for the past four years. we have a president dhs secretary and american people who rightfully demand results. and ice leadership will deliver those results. apparently they are cleaning house with inside of the agency right now. figure out who exactly is a holdover, that is a career person that, is leaking the information. >> brian: right. >> lawrence: trying to give them the boot. >> brian: go ahead. >> emily: ice officials removed. president trump is holding a mirror not just to the entire -- it includes the administration and the people he has installed, too. that 93%, that is staggering because of the speed, within one week. it was down 93%. and i hear you where we are just grateful to see movement from the interior, but it just goes to show the high standards the
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president expects. no, no. it's not good enough. not good enoughed that the president of colombia says oh, i will use my own plane, 200 each. no i want to make it 200 million. this as yesterday new york city mayor eric adams touted 187 million illegal immigrants that they processed through the system, potus says well then where are they now? get them out. >> steve: yesterday, we were talking about how four fema employees, a couple of top guys were fired because they gave millions of, tens of millions of dollars to house migrants here in new york. fema, that's a problem. so, ultimately, what the administration is trying to do and the doge people are trying to help with this, is make sure that everybody in an agency is on the same page because you are working for the boss. if everyone is free-lancing it's not going to work. >> brian: let's talk about the northern border because that is a big focus. the president said you have one month to clean it up.
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trudeau 25% tariffs coming your direction. he goes i want the fentanyl cleaned up and i want the level of traffic coming through stopped. i need some emphasis on there they are going to put some assets. the other thing they are doing is get a fentanyl czar. and they have it. and he is on board with the very impressive resume and we talked to the sheriff of plattsburgh area in upstate new york. clinton county. is he encouraged by what he is saying also said 23 years on the job, he has never seen it so bad. watch. >> i looked qui quick at his ree and it is impressive. i think he has some really good experience and certainly seems motivated. i'm really observe hoping that he does reach out we can have some good law enforcement team communications and strategize. but the key to success what are they getting? that's going to be the key in
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the an us against they we are on the same team and work together on this to combat the problem and be successful. with his resume and what he has done in the past could should be able to accomplish that. >> brian: 23 million pounds have come through and could have killed 9 million people we share a border we should share intel. >> emily: indians. those on the left protest about our porous southern border tenets of racism is the roots. it doesn't matter, it has nothing to do with that because both borders have all colors of people all the time from 58 different countries and counting. >> steve: did you hear about this one? a parent in seattle is facing assault charges after he was caught on video, as you can see right there, attacking a pair of kid referees during a youth hockey game. >> emily: todd piro has the details. todd?
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what is going on the ice? >> completely unacceptable. shocking video coming out of the ice rink. parent attending his son's youth hockey game walks onto the ice and shoves two child referees on to their backs in an attack police say was unprovoked. young referees just 12 and 14 years old. think about that. the suspect whose name has not been released told police that he wanted to, quote: defend his son, accusing another athlete of punching and kicking his child in the head. players and coaching staff immediately confronted him and escorted him off the ice. the rest of the game was called off. now, 9 video of the attack was shared on social media by the pacific northwest hockey association. association president saying, quote: the video we are sharing is difficult to watch. but it is crucial that we confront the seriousness of what happened. hockey is a game of passion. but there is absolutely no place in our sport for the kind of egregious and outrageous behavior that occurred during a
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12 urec game in washington. over n. my over 4 o0 years in hockey i have never witnessed anything so completely unacceptable luckily the both the young referees did not suffer serious injuries. i know you have done stories on violence against refer years and umpires in youth sports. man, this is a 12 and 14-year-old that were assaulted i don't know if i have ever seen that. >> brian: so much video online youth sports getting out of control. nobody wants to ref anymore. pandemic other things. >> emily: kids in there and they get assaulted. my little niece plays hockey in seattle tiny team, i can't imagine the thought of a grown adult pushing a child over is horrifying to me. >> brian: it's sickening. >> steve: todd, thank you very much for the report. >> brian: somebody not sickening enlightening, carley shimkus. >> carley: should i put that on my resume i'm not sickening but
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i don't know what i am but i know what i am not. new overnight pete hegseth greeting his counterpart from britain just a few hours ago at nato headquarters in brussels. this is the second leg of the secretary's first official foreign trip. and here he is meeting with the ukrainian defense minister. we are told their discussion was focused on the united states' support for ukraine's fight against russia. regulatory be hegseth wrote clear nato must be a stronger, more lethal force. not a diplomatic club. time for allies to meet the moment. officials revealing the cause of the deadly arizona plane crash involving a jet owned by motley crue's lead singer. authorities say the landing gear jet failed causing it to ram into a parked plane at scottsdale airport on monday. a pilot on the private jet was killed. neil was not on the flight officials say his girlfriend was among the people the hurt. she suffered five broken ribs.
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apple joined google renaming the gulf of mexico to the gulf of america on its maps. this is what it currently looks like on an iphone and zoom in. new title here. how about that? the move comes after president trump ordered to rename the body of water which was named official by the u.s. geographical named information system. and those are your headlines, guys. it's happening in real time. >> steve: it is. >> years ago these big tech companies he was -- like radiation poisoning. nobody was going to be a are the path trump. they didn't want to be part of his business counsel. now they are like what do you need? want to make it the gulf of america i'm in. want to get rid of dei? it's done. >> lawrence: it's refreshing. >> steve: you think america's map makers rand mcnally would be delighted. how many people look at a paper map. >> google map still has gulf of mexico. resistance still happening. interestingly, i think we saw
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that about the radioactivity. not only in public. but we have seen it swathe through the youth culture and college campuses and on the streets. never used to see pro-trump gear new york city. >> brian: 55% approval rating for americans under 30. does the president of the united states. >> brian: is it rand mcnally one person two people rand an mcnally. >> steve: rand and mcnally. >> brian: two people. >> steve: atlas makers. >> brian: would not decide who was in charge. >> steve: rand and mcnally. >> brian: new way of doing diplomacy. steve witkoff joins us live for first interview since bringing home american mark fogel from russia. >> steve: plus, government efficiency meet government transparency. how donald trump and elon musk are flipping the script and exposing years of government waste. >> we have already found billions of dollars of aincompetence and corruption. a lot of corruption hot air balloon ride
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staff and limit hiring. this comes as elon musk speaks out for the need to fix major inefficiencies in the federal government. peter doocy is standing in front of the white house. the snowy white house and he joins us with a thorough report. peter? >> peter: yes, and doge is going underground, literally. 230 feet under ground in boyers, pennsylvania where the company dire mountain is leasing face to the feds for 700 plus opm workers most number of nominee can retire in a month is 10,000. we ever like why is that? well, because all the retirement paperwork is manual, on paper. manually, written down on a piece of paper. then it goes down a mine and we're like what do you mean a mine? yeah. there is a limestone mine where we store all the retirement paperwork. >> and this is it. we is a picture.
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looks like a place to ride out a nuclear blast. federal workers very slowly process retirement papers by hand. the feds have spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying to dig tides it in the past. they couldn't. so far president trump says is he pleased with efforts to make things more efficient and is he not worried at all about potential conflicts of interest for musk. >> we thought that they would not let him do that segment or look in that area if we thought there was a lack of transparency or a conflict of interest. and, we watched that also. it's a big businessman. is he a successful guy. that's why we want him doing. this we don't want an unsuccessful guy doing. this. >> peter: the usaid inspector general paul martin has been fired not by anybody at usaid but by the white house office of u.s. personnel a day publishing a report critical of the u.s. funding freeze.
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>> just cursory examination of social security, and we got people in there that are 150 years old. now, do you know anyone who is 150? i don't know, okay. they should be on the guinness book of world records. they are missing out. so, you know, that's a case where i think they are probably dead. >> peter: fact-check, true. and that whole photo op. goes to show that president trump, at least right now, is not entirely bothered by these democratic attacks that the real president is elon musk. lawrence? >> lawrence: silly. he knows he is running the show. thanks, peter. and talking about hitting a sour note. outraged democrats turn their anti-doge pro-protest into a performance, watch ♪ we'll fight against doge ♪ we'll fight elon musk. >> yeah ♪ no elon scab within our walls ♪ we'll fight from dawn to dusk
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♪ which side are you on ♪ trump's coming for our unions ♪ he wants us all to fail ♪ he wants us all to bow to him ♪ but we want him in jail. >> lawrence: i mean, apologies to the audience, guys that they had to sit through that again. fox news contributor guy benson joins us now. what are they doing? this is not helping your case at all. >> i don't know, lawrence, i have heard the song now i'm suddenly convinced. make some very important subtle nuances substantive point, so i have come around. maybe in that sort of bubble, right, within that echo chamber. coming up with songs this is kind of like the theater kid caucus singing about all the people that you hate and how you are going to oppose them. that might get you brownie points with the people around you. but you average folks out there, who hear the phrase
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constitutional crisis flying around constantly, that's the buzz word of the day. and then they watch literal performances like that and say, you know, perhaps they actually aren't terribly serious and they are just a bunch of partisans trying to latch on to something that they are angry about. i think a lot of the actions here, as is often the case with the left, are counter productive to their own cause. sometimes trump's opposition is one of trump's greatest assets. >> lawrence: yeah. i mean, there is so much that the media, in particular could be going through so many programs going overseas, get this in-depth reporting, but they are having a meltdown. watch this. >> president trump and first buddy elon musk at the resolute desk in the oval office defending their aggressive efforts to overhaul the government and root out fraud. >> irony died while he was talking. the only unelected party in any of this is elon musk. >> you have a criminal president, 34 convictions.
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no wonder he is happy with elon musk. they are violating the law right and left. >> lawrence: the campaign and overtime. but the election is over. >> ben: yeah, the arguments and tone you heard have already failed. it didn't work. the idea they are breaking the law left and right appeals underway vitriol and over-the-top hyperbole is not doing anybody favors. >> lawrence: not doing any favors. not going to help them win over voters as well. that's why you see the approval rating going up to the president. thanks, guy, appreciate it. >> guy: you bet. >> lawrence: so it's a new dawn for diplomacy, how trump's special envoy steve witkoff secured the release of an american hostage. marc fogel as another american is set to come home today. that's next.
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>> janice: good morning, everyone. it is feeling like winter. let's take a look. we have millions of folks under some sort of winter weather advisory. and current wind chills, holy moly feels like negative 35 in bismarck. you get the picture. it's very cold across the northern plains and we have a lot of alerts where we could easily get frost bite in just minutes across areas over the northern plains in towards the upper midwest. then we have the potential for severe storms where we have warmer temperatures and a lot of abundant moistures here. could see the risk for large hail, damaging winds, heavy rainfall, causing flash flooding. and even some isolated tornadoes. not only today but through friday. so, then the weekend storm moves. in i know it's confusing. we have had several storms move across the same areas this week. and this one could be a little bit more dynamic, if n. terms of
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winter weather and ice. we could potentially see. >> morgan: severe weather over the south. there is the snow potential as we get into the weekend. so, jackpot, snow fall totals around the great lakes in towards the interior northeast but certainly big cities along the i-95 corridor could see measurable snow. and looking ahead, we have got a big artic air mass that's going to move in over the next couple of weeks. winter not done, yet. we will toss it inside to brian and i'm going to go inside very shortly with you. >> brian: all right. thanks so much, janice, now. this the trump administration says a second american hostage will return home today after president trump welcomes home an american hostage marc fogel last night from russia. in a deal brokered by special envoy steve witkoff. >> we'll forever be indebted to president trump, to steve over there, what a dynamic man this guy is. >> you could be a big catalyst
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for just this evening is a very important ending for ending that war. i think they all want to see it ended. somebody else is being released tomorrow that you will know of. >> brian: wow. supposed to be from russia, i believe. donald trump's special envoy to the middle east steve witkoff joins us now for first interview since bringing home marc fogel. steve, great to see you. congratulations. i wasn't expecting this. we knew about marc's situation. but when he didn't come out with paul whelan and evan gershkovich it didn't seem like we had a piece to trade. how did you unfreeze this? >> it's not me unfreezing it. it's president trump. >> he sets the table for all of us and points us in the right direction. and asks us, you know, asks us to go implement. and that's what happened here. >> brian: so, can you bring us inside you thought you might have a shot at g getting marc o. what indications did you have that you should leave the middle
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east focus and maybe go up to moscow? >> well, we have had some discussions with people in the russian government and it reached oper fruition. and from that came a discussion between me, the president, national security adviser waltz, our chief of staff, susie wiles, and also, and i don't want to forget him john ratcliffe who was critical here they sent me over there we got a good outcome thank god. i know you are deflecting a lot of it imring us inside the meeting with vladimir putin. >> i don't want to talk about what specifically happened over in russia. i just more want to focus on the outcome outcome was marc fogel came home. i met him at the airport. it's hard for me to describe
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what it was like to meet him and see him and what it was like to put him on the plane, what it was like when we rode on the plane in and spent nine hours together most importantly what it was like when we touched down at andrews air force base and i turned to him and said you are on u.s. soil now. the tears he had, it was an amazing moment. blessed that's the adjective. >> brian: 2021 arrested. 20202214 years in prison. he was transferred to a penal clone. they said that's as bad as it gets in terms of prison life. what did he tell you about those moments being held? >> first of all, you hear something very interesting last night toward the end of the press conference with the president president trump who pushes these buttons and gets these things done. marc also gave president to president putin. and i think for all the right
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reasons. there's a judicial system there. it works in a certain way. but, at the end of the day, none of this happens without -- without president putin and president trump together forging this pardon and this release. so, he commended president putin and i commend him as well this morning. >> brian: steve, are you going to stay with this? i hear there is another hostage prisoner detained labeled -- he is actually detained behind bars right now. is there somebody else coming out today? >> brian, i can't comment on that. i know this. adam boehler is the special envoy for hostages is he great friend of mine. a great guy. whatever is he working on i'm sure it is going to have a good result great career, going to
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rhode island, you have all of this real estate success. and now your family is involved what gave you the belief you could be successful in something you seemingly don't have the experience in but your success early, you have the faith of the president and his team, and your results are uncanny. where does that come from? >> i think it comes from -- it comes from president trump, brian. he told me i could do it. that's what he said. and, you know, at the end of the day, you never really are sure. but, there is -- there is this sort of secret sauce when you work with president trump. it's hard for me to describe it everybody operates in same way it's this can do atmosphere. we are out there to get it done. he encourages us. that's how it happens you were
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with him the day the second assassination attempt. you know what he has been through to this point. now we are at the point two or three weeks. in a lot of people thanking you for your great effort and him for making the efforts he has so far, 10 hostages released in two weeks. thanks so much, steve. best of luck. i can't wait to see what you do next. >> brian, i'm just. >> brian: you got a snow blower. >> a little bit of noise in the background. >> brian: right. the one thing that donald trump doesn't have, is control of the grounds team, evidently. so we had a little bit of snow blowing and plowing happening behind you. so you know that's not a green screen. that's actual winter behind steve witkoff. steve, thank you so much. >> thank you so much, brian. have a great day. >> brian: congratulations, unbelievable. it didn't happen in florida. democrats vs. doge, the fight that is coming to courts around the country, next. ♪
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president trump's cost-cutting mandate. and now they are rolling out a task force to sue the trump administration and, quote: defend everyday americans from the harm being inflicted by this administration. well, president trump and musk on the other hand are questioning the controversy. watch. >> how could a judge want to hold us back from finding all of this fraud and finding all of this incompetence? why would that happen? why would even congress want to could that. >> your tax dollars need to be spent wisely on the things to matter to the people it's just common sense. it's no draconian or radical. >> well, here to react is former establishment u.s. attorney and fox news contributor andy mccarthy. good morning, andy first of all. i want to know who is paying for the task force. is that the salaries that we pay for our tax dollars to resist an audit? and, if so, what constitutional issues do you see here with them
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pushing back? >> well, i think it's to be expected, emily, that they will push back. this is what happens, you know, the litigation is kind of designed to slow things down. and they have vast resources to conduct this kind of litigation. you have sort of these cabals of state attorneys general. all kinds of well-healed left wing groups that can do this. ultimately, i think, if you get clearing rulings from the court, a lot of this stuff will fade away. it seems to me the weakest position that they have is that executive branch officials. and whether they like it or not, they keep calling it the so-called doge, as if it didn't exist. it actually is a component of the executive office of the president and the white house. it's a refinement of something that was begun under obama. so, this is a legitimate government entity, and they answer to the president, who
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runs the executive branch. so the idea that an executive official answerable to the president, can't look at what's going on in executive agencies is pretty nutty. i think that should fade away, fast. >> emily: if it's legitimate we know that ultimately the supreme court will rule in that favor, in terms of ensuring the legitimacy, protecting it and also protecting the execution of the mandate to clean house. so the question is how much time is going to be wasted though in these lower circuit courts and by this task force ruining the process in the interim? >> i think you will get a better quality of justice as you go up higher. unfortunately, at the district court level, i think what we are seeing is a lot of forum shopping. and there is a lot of opportunity for these lower court judges to slow walk stuff. and then the thing you have to worry about up in the supreme court is that you have some judges who just don't like the emergency docket. and they like the idea, even if there are justices who you think would be inclined to rule the
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president's way. they like things to come in regular order, rather than expedited. >> emily: as we know the wheels of justice do not turn fast, but hopefully in this case they do. all right, thank you, andy. now,. >> thanks, emily. >> emily: tulsi gabbard's confirmation vote in just a few hours. are the numbers on her side? stay with us. ♪
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