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♪ >> steve: welcome aboard, folks. 8:00 in new york stock exchange. it is wednesday february 12th, 2025. this is hour three of "fox & friends." fox news alert. we are waiting perhaps another hostage release today after last night's surprise with marc fogel and american teacher wrongfully detained in russia for more than three years. finally returned to america. >> i said you are on u.s. soil now. and the tears he had, it was an amazing moment. i felt blessed. >> steve: somebody else who feels whether whether he is mars sister anne. she is going to join us on his three-year detention and she is coming up shortly. >> emily: democrats defend reckless spending how president

trump and elon musk is flipping the script and exposing years of waste. >> we have already found billions of dollars of abuse, incompetence, and corruption. a lot of corruption. >> lawrence: a lot. and a good boy and now top dog monthy the giant schnauzer crowned best in show at the westminster kennel club dog show. is he going to join us live. >> steve: nice. >> brian: final hour of "fox & friends" starts right now. get dressed. >> emily: with this fox news alert today we are expecting the release of another hostage. >> this is expected to happen, just one day after american teacher marc fogel had returned to the u.s. 2021. >> steve: president trump welcomed him home at the white house, as you can see the southport co-right there with light snow coming down. mr. fogel with an american flag around his neck. all after working a deal with

moscow for his release. >> lawrence: last year spoke with steve witkoff who helped secure fogel's freedom. watch. >> the outcome was that marc fogel came home. i met him at the airport. he was -- it's hard for me to describe his -- what it was like to meet him. what it was like to see him. what it was like when we put him on the plane. what it was like when we rode on the plane in and spent nine hours together. and, most importantly, what it was like when we touched down at andrews air force base. i turned to him and said you are on u.s. soil now. the tears he had. it was an amazing moment. >> i felt blessed. >> brian: i get the sense in talking to him that there is so much -- there is so many more shoes to drop. and he said notice, he brought me to -- he says notice what fogel said about vladimir putin. he thanked him for coming out.

i asked him about his stay in the penal clone, colony. who is the next hostage? can't go through that adam boehler is going to handle that. this is a very tenuous time. he doesn't want to say anything that would make anybody look bad and stop what is next. i think what is happening next russia, ukraine. i'm seeing now the war pace picking up. russia is trying to force ukraine out of kursk, and they bombed kyiv last night. trying to get as much as possible. i think it fits into these talks. >> lawrence: brian, do you get the impression that part of this negotiation. this administration. we just want our people up. we want the war to end. and people be safe as a result of this. i know there was always this pressure of don't compliment putin. don't, because he is a bad guy, you don't want to do that. but i get the impression with this administration it's much different. let putin think he got him.

let's praise him -- you don't want to blow him up. especially in the beginning, you want a goodwill gesture and it looks like that's one of the reasons why putin released him. there are thousands of americans who are jailed overseas right now. but only about -- over 100 are wrongfully jailed. found medical marijuana in his carry on. and so he was thrown into prison. and that goes to show you how corrupt the system is in russia. he was found guilty for being a large scale drug smuggler, and he was sentenced to 14 years in prison. and that is so corrupt. but that's how putin works. and so he had the perfect opportunity to blow putin up. but he didn't. and when stwoive talked about sd about when they landed 40 minutes before that picture was

taken. mr. fogel got off the plane, he was wearing a steelers knit cap he got down on his knees and kissed the ground. who would not do that? god bless him. >> emily: just before he cracked the iron city beer. to your point, lawrence, i think it's really well-taken that this president has incredible grasp of diplomacy. that's a newanced and delicate and very crucial tenet to have in a commander-in-chief and that's something that we lacked in the prior administration. and, yet, remember what was shoved down our throats for four years? it was that president trump was a bowl in a china shop and that we had to trust the establishment entrenched swamp individuals of d.c. to have any type of exception that they could massage relationships with all of our allies or all of our enemies. and at the end of the day, what happened? in three weeks president trump brings home 10 hostages, in three weeks, president trump has accomplished more than we saw in four years of biden in decades of democrat leadership. and the point is that there is

results being had. so there is something to be said for the art of the deal, absolutely, but it can't be overstated or ignored that there is diplomacy happening. and that too is reflect when marc fogel thanked not only the president. how many pairs of hands had a play in the release of this american to deserves to be home a.p. so,. >> steve: wonder who that is? >> brian: we don't know the identity yet. the a.p. is reporting that the thing that -- what the exchange was got to be for something. this is the story. a lot of time you capture these guys at the high level in the spy business. doesn't behoove you outside the intelligence apparatus. >> steve: got to figure not an american teacher jailed on trumped up charges. not an equivalent to that

international arms dealer? is it going to be somebody of note? we should know in a day or so. >> lawrence: anne fogel marc's sister is going to be joining us coming up. >> steve: meanwhile? >> lawrence: in two hours the doge subcommittee will hold first hearing after president trump directs federal agencies to cut staff and limit hiring. this comes as elon musk speaks out on the need for updates to fix major inefficiencies in the federal government. >> emily: peter doocy is live at the white house with the details. peter? >> peter: good morning, the effort to make the government more efficient has fallen down a mine shaft. 230 feet below boyers, pennsylvania in butler county where millions of manila envelopes represent the pain-stakingly slow federal retirement process most number that can retire in a month is 10,000.

why is that on paper. manually calculated, written down on a piece of paper them goes down a mine. yeah a limestone mine where we store all the retirement paper paperwork. >> peter: this is it looks like a place to ride out a explosion. they very slowly process the papers by hand. a sinkhole of bureaucracy. so far president trump is pleased with efforts to make things more efficient and he says he is not worried about potential conflicts of interest for musk. >> we thought that we would not let him do that segment or look in that area, if we thought there was a lack of transparency or a conflict of interest. and, we watched that, also. it's a big businessman. he is a successful guy. that's why we want him doing. this we don't want an unsuccessful guy doing.

this. >> peter: usaid inspector general paul martin has been fired not by anybody at usaid but by the white house, office of presidential personnel happened just days after he published a report critical of the white house's usaid funding freeze. >> crazy things just like cursory examination of social security, and we got people in there that are 150 years old. now, do you know anyone who is 150? i don't know. okay. they should be on the guinness book of world records. they are missing out. so, you know, that's the case where i think they are probably dead. >> peter: yeah. probably right. and musk admitted in that extraordinary photo spray last night that sometimes the things he says are going to turn out to be incorrect, the way he puts it is nobody is going to bat a thousand. his batting average is high enough that trump wants him to keep going. keep looking for waste, fraud, and corruption. back to you.

>> steve: peter, you described that mine shaft that turned out to be a gold mine for government employees since the 1950s where they process the retirement papers. ultimately, that shows inefficiency, but the federal government and people in congress have known about it for decades. and it's like this is very inefficient. but there has never been appetite to close it down. >> peter: it's not a secret. there are 700 people work there and go home at the end of the day and sit at the bar in boirs pennsylvania talking about the broken elevator at the mine digitize this. if you're elon musk, guy whose entire world is advancing artificial intelligence. technology that can probably do this in like one second. 10,000 in one second then it is hard to wrap your head around. no idea how they are going to

modernize it, but hes pretty much anything they do would be more efficient. >> brian: as joe rogan said yesterday, everybody is against fraud and abuse and democrats should stand up and recognize that is what was elected. look at every battleground state and improved with every ethnic demographic. he was voted in to do this. they are suing for about everything, trying to stop him being successful in stopping the federal buyout, the idiot, the unions think they know more than workers. 60 plus thousand want to take the buyout and doge schecking te treasury. birth rights citizenship, usaid

worker layoffs, they said they can't do that, usaid need to be streamlined, they answer to nobody. they refused joni ernst working on budget. and alowaki was sent to colorado state university to mold his mind be. >> lawrence: it is embarrassing what is taking place. i would have thought there would be some humble pie. congress is supposed to oversee this. you have someone from the outside comes in and figures it out in just weeks and they protest? they should be apologizing to the american people. what do they do? just go to cocktail parties all week? your job is to oversee a branch and fund it efficiently and

every month or so there is a hearing, they bring them down and yell at them for some play on some network and don't get to heart of the inefficient. that is what elon musk is doing, we have the world's richest guys and one of the smartest guys. they refer to it as crazy cave, where they store records, he's trying to digitize it and make it more efficient. we had a guest on earlier today who is appears in front of house oversight and he's at alexualexus nexus, the information group. they know trillions of dollars have gone -- not to americans who earned it, but to crooks overseas. watch this. >> i think we could save a trillion dollars between

federal, state and local government. first thing, we have to start doing front-end identity certification, stop allowing self-certification and monitor the population. a lot of times, what happens, criminals use stolen information they get from the dark web and p pretend to be you or me. if you do those three things, you are able to stop the fraud. in the public sector in government, the fraud rate is 20% and the private sector, the fraud rate is only 3%. the ppp loans, if you had done a check with internal revenue service and applicant probably 40% of initial loans were fraudulent. >> brian: how about this, fema

1.1 billion despite it being supported with one single paper, june 30 audit. inspector general found this, the person did not get in trouble and money got paid out and we lose it. we are 39 trillion in debt, number one expenditure is service on the debt. if we don't cut trillions from the budget, we can't fund defense and have less and less discretionary spending. he says you need competence and caring. he cares enough to put seven businesses on hold to sleep on a cot in the eisenhower building and ask his elite young to do work. they don't wear a suit and tie and work for free. that is why he's being condemned, he has to explain

himself. i can't believe this is scenario we are dealing with. >> the nuance of alcove from alexus nexus, we know proper payments occurreds domestically, the reality of funding the taliban even after foreign aid was paused 40 million per week still going to the taliban for years. to that point, so many facets we are funding that threaten american safety and that somehow is lost on democrats that continue picketing on sidewalks for daring to audit our task force. >> lawrence: they look silly. >> steve: they do look silly. they look really angry. i was thinking about it, if elon musk and his team goes through everything and figures out, look at trillions we wasted, people are going to be embarrassed. wait a minute, you're okay with

that? they will say, absolutely not, they will be embarrassed they supported things with trillions out the door. >> brian: in just hours, full senate expected to vote on tulsi gabbard for director of national intelligence. >> steve: brooke singman has more. >> brooke: tulsi gabbard is expected to be confirmed as director of national intelligence this morning. tulsi gabbard has support from susan collins and lisa murkowski, and those two have a reputation for going against their party. they both voted against pete hegseth. collins is considered key vote for robertf kennedy. she does plan to confirm him. this all comes as judiciary committee is also preparing to

send kash patel to nomination. linda mcmahon, secretary of education is set for tomorrow and democrats are questioning her experience. >> steve: we knew that was going to happen. thank you, brooke. >> brian: over to carley. >> carley: the fbi has released images of dramatic moment ice arrested three tren de aragua mem members. the gang member did not put up a fight. ice tracked the murder suspect to a houston apartment earlier this month as part of the immigration crackdown. starliner astronauts stuck in space since june may be coming home earlier than expected. nasas they plan to bring them home on march 19th, or march

20th, space x capsule will launch on march 12. starliner flight test was supposed to last 10 days. two shark attack survivors from florida recovering after they were both bitten while vacationing in the bahamas. both said they thought they were going to die. they were attacked after jumping off their friend's boat. summer is on the monday at home and riley is preparing for another surgery. that is terrifying, thank god they are okay. >> steve: indeed. >> carley: imagine your parents getting that phone call. >> emily: my friend was bit by a shark. from here to here, the community

rallied to take care of him. it goes from most peaceful sport to realizing mother nature. >> brian: sharks were there first. laker >> lawrence: their habitat. >> steve: american hostage marc fogel finally back in america. >> brian: his sister joins us for the first time since he was released. >> lawrence: look at that smile. i had the worst dream last night. you were in a car crash and the kids and i were on our own. that's

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>> brian: trump administration says a second american hostage will return home today after president trump welcomes back wrongly imprisoned marc fogel from russia. >> i feel leak the luckiest man on earth right now, i think my 95-year-old mother is probably the most dynamic 95-year-old on earth right now. >> he's got a great mother. when i saw the mother at a rally, she said, if you win, will you get my son out? she's 95 years old. i said, we'll get him out. i would have had big trouble with his mother. >> emily: marc fogel's sister

ann, joins us now. we are cheering and supporting your brother and so glad he's been welcomed home safely to the united states. what is going through your head right now? >> i'm -- i woke up this morning and it's good morning and it is really i'm so happy to have this massive boulder off my shoulders. i feel so much better. i didn't see those photos last night, it is nice to see this. i was at the bar last night celebrating. it is great to see these. >> lawrence: i got to ask you, so often politicians make promises and we know a promise was made to your mother. how does it feel two weeks in they follow through with the promise they made? >> he was true to his word.

it is amazing. such a different relationship. i'm just so incredibly grateful to the president. >> steve: and the president -- >> amazing. >> steve: and the president did mention your mother, 95 years old, god bless her. i know the nightmare is over for the marc fogel family. your mother has said in the past, i don't know if i'm going to be alive when my son is released. as we look at your mother on the couch last night, how relieved was she that she got to see this happen? >> you know, she's going to be 96 in a couple of weeks. she was, i don't think she thought she would see this day. she's a power house, though. she wasn't going to let it go. she is the mother bear.

>> brian: can you bring us through what brought us to this moment? how you realized this was a real opportunity that might indeed happen? when did you realize mark might be on his way yesterday? >> i talked to him on february 3, we had a very normal conversation for what it is like to have everyone at the u.s. embassy and the russ ian kremli listening in, so not a very deep conversation. that is kind of conversation on the 3rd. on the 5th, i received a text saying that they didn't know where my brother was. this random person really. so the alarm bells started going

off and we were doing some invest investigating, so days went by like this, we knew he wasn't in the independental pen al colony. we found out he was in moscow. we did not tell my mother any of this, we did not want her crushed again. we waited and waited and it was a very tense weak. my mother's expression and like she was really genuinely surprised and i was just crazy relieved. my sister, it was just, we had been working really hard on this. it's taken a toll, but we're

so -- i can't even believe he's safe and at home and can get medical attention. [sighing] >> and the blizzard and it has been crazy 24 hours. >> steve: yeah. >> lawrence: ann, i'm curious, i hate to backtrack, this is such a celebratory moment, but when you found out in the past administration they put other people before and he was not part of the negotiation, did they ever reach out to you? this time around, it was t transparent, you guys were involved. what were those conversations like? >> after the release in august, they did reach out to us to let us know he wasn't included. it was hard. it was a blow.

honestly. so as you know, my mother met president trump before his rally in butler, pennsylvania, which was so disturbing and she got his word and he kept it. >> steve: he did. >> we're pleased ana imagining. >> brian: do you think he got extended, because it was late in labeling him unlawfully detained even though he clearly was unlawfully detained? >> these are things that will come out in the wash. these are things to -- that will come out. he should have been detained far earlier. i wonder that myself.

>> steve: i know you are going to see him as soon as you can. you heard the news and went to a nearby bar. were you drinking ironcity beer? he's holding a beer in the white house, what a boss. >> the congresswoman gave that to him along with a steeler hat. no, i was drinking scotch last night. >> steve: i don't blame you, you should be drinking champagne, it is a celebration, he's home. >> deed, celebrating is not over, just beginning. >> emily: incred ible 96th birthday present for your mother. we are so thrilled for you and your entire family, ann, god bless you and know millions of americans and the world are cheering you on and welcoming your brother home.

>> thanks so much. much appreciation. >> brian: thanks for coming on our show, we appreciate that, too. we'll be in touch. thank you. you have -- senator mccormick, he said if i get in there, it was my priority. he was there last night. >> emily: coming up next, we talk to one red state superintendent going back to the basics in schools and seeing it pay off.

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redesigning systems and accelerating parental rights and valuing educational freedom fchl we focus on that, we will continue to deliver high quality education for kids. >> steve: when we look at your state rankings, 2019 before pandemic versus last year, way up in math and reading, as well. across the board for the most part. i love the fact that you are getting back to basics. i read you are doing something analogue, you are shipping old-fashioned, old-school flash cards to the kids. we learned to do math and it actually works. >> schools and school systems have been chasing shiny things for too long. we're trying to do what we're ordained to do.

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peacekeepers, if a peace deal is secured with russia, any peacekeepers that come to ukraine must include americans for it to be taken seriously from the russians, because it was wide ranging. this is part of the pivot from the trump administration, who says that europe cannot be the focus of the us military. it must be china. it must be the us southern border. it's up for the europeans to provide more for their defense. he also said it is unrealistic to expect that any kind of peace deal with russia would include 1991 borders that, you know, from ukraine's independence days when the soviet union fell. he says it's hegseth said it's unrealistic to expect pre 2014 borders. that means that any peace deal with russia will likely include russia keeping crimea and the donbas about 20% of ukraine, which of course, russian forces have occupied for about two years now. he also mentioned that, of course, the role of china and that the us forces must be spending, must be focused more on china. also, this one was very interesting. the united states

will no longer tolerate an imbalanced encourages dependency, telling europe and nato they must spend more on their defense. two-thirds of nato allies spend on defense of the nation. the defense secretary before pete hegseth said they already do that. and russian military is spending more than entire content of europe on their defense. europe needs to step up. he said this must be a war-fighting organization, not a diplomatic club. he said that on twitter, stronger, more lethal force. people watching right now, if you came into nato headquarters, you would not know this was strongest alliance in the world, there are stores and starbucks,

it does not feel at nato headquarters like more lethal, which is what hegseth wants, guys. >> emily: lucas tomlinson, thank you. lots coming out of brussels there. now to carley shimkus for -- >> carley: got more news to get to, mount is gushing lava, on the island has been erupting for two months. earlier eruptions lasted up to eight days. major u.s. grocery stores, costco and bhoel foods are putting a limit on purchase of eggs. bird flu has affected eggs. the shortage is causing restaurants like waffle house to add an egg surcharge, say it

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>> for best in show at the 149th annual westminster kennel club dog show, i choose the giant schnauzer. >> monte, he did it. three years and he he finally wins best in show. what an incredible moment. >> steve: no kidding. monte, crowned best in show as the westminster kennel club's

149th dog show in new york. >> exciting win. the first giant schnauzer ever to finish first as it returned to madison square garden. >> lawrence: monte join us now with his handler, katie. thank you for joining the program. you told me it has been 65 competitions. >> he has won 65 competitions. >> lawrence: to be the first. how does it make you feel yesterday? >> so proud. i love this breed. this is his third time at the garden and his father had gone deserve. we were close. it was incredible. >> steve: you are here in the new york for the dog show. a much different life than when you guys are at home, right? describe a normal day for monte at home when not in a dog show winning the big prize. >> he works out a lot. athlete and keeps in shape. he does a lot of water

treadmill, plays ball. takes up most of the couch. he thinks he is very tiny. he sits on our lapse. >> you met as children at madison square garden. what does it feel like to have this win with such a beautiful dog? >> adam and i met when we were very young and we've been through a lot together and to be able to do this with my best friend, to do everything that i hoped it would be. >> steve: it is hard for you to say. >> we worked very hard and we are very proud of all of our dogs and we're just proud of our dog. >> brian: i think the dog knew he won. >> monte always knows he wins. >> that's a championship mentality. was there a moment you knew he performed so well? the judges over the years i've talked to judges and they don't know the dogs that are in the

final ring and they come in, just a feeling they have the hair on hair arms come up. did you know this dog had something special on this night? >> in that kind of environment and that energy and this dog thrives off that and he doesn't get nervous. he just is like let's go. going through the tunnel and you see the lights and cheering, you just have to trust that he knows what he is doing and i just hold on. he never disappoints me. >> lawrence: what does he get for winning? >> he gets to go home and be our pet. he gets steak all the time. my husband makes him filets, ribeyes, whatever we cook. >> brian: he is best in show and should get a steak. >> i want you to know i'm not a hero in this at all an