and you sit on every committee almost. >> yes, and we know that president donald trump has chosen such outstanding people for his cabinet. we are ahead of where the democrats were in approving biden's cabinet and on pace with the obama cabinet. we'll finish two or three more this week. we should in the next two weeks finish with the cabinet and move to the deputies and assistants. harris, you are going to see the golden age of america. you are going to see us cutting this federal government and you are going to see president donald trump sending power, authority and money back to the states and the people. that is the goal. it is happening. >> harris: i know you have to go vote or rfk, jr. to move it to a confirmation vote. thank you for being with me. "outnumbered" starts now.

>> happening right now on capitol hill the first hearing from the house doge subcommittee. the focus of the hearing is the war on waste. we'll keep an eye on. >> the trump administration does have the authority to limit access to federal funds in certain situations. i'm emily with harris talker and kaley and hosting us kennedy of kennedy saves the world podcast and charles payne host of making money on fox business. so this is a real huge coming out, we had a federal judge postpone and the argument was that analysis of error and essentially articulating that it would be worse grave error to pause the funding rather than moving forward with potential, and i know kennedy as we talk

about the tension between limited government and sort of feeding into the bloat, one could argue in fact the grave error would be this ridiculous flagrant spending the three trillion in four example overpayments improper payments via federal agencies in last years to terrorist groups, so now you judge has seen the light but it took a while to get here. >> it has taken a while, and you know my worry was that d.c. is so calcified this would feel like forever but the fact we have movement in a beneficial direction i think it's an extraordinary feat on its face but also having democrats sort of defend the corruption and the opacity of the way some of these organizes have been run seems to me indy fenceable. i don't know how they go to their constituents and say we

want to keep squirrelling away money in the dark and spending however we see fit essentially laundering it through organizations like ecohealth alliance, creating potentially bigger problems. the more we pear town government the more we will see constitutionalist judges get on board with that because that is thousand country was designed to be run. how far we have trade from originalism and i'm happy to see members of the cabinet pushing a vision of government as it was intended and should be. >> kaley at the end of the day we can vouch for the fact that the district court has underscored common says so the president can limit federal funds on the basis of stal it's regulations and terms, essentially yes the government can do so in complying with regulations and the previous order does not bar both the

president and much of the federal government from exercising their own lawful authority to withhold funding without the prior approval of the district court, meaning again they can disperse the money they were allocated within the confines of the law and the government doesn't have to seek preclearance from the courts on terminating funding as long as they have the authority to do it as governed by the applicable statutory regulatory or grant terms so essentially the court is confirming what the trump administration has maintained and what common sense can project, which is that within the confines of regulatory and normal authority, of course you can do what you want with your own money and you don't need a court's approval to do so. >> that's in it a nutshell. it's a victory but a small victory and when you back up at look at the big picture here every you have an administration that has an enormous amount of energy. this administration is on overdrive and can be data griesed as we discussed monday,

trump has had more executive orders in ten years than prior administrations in hawaiian years so he's on overdrive and you have the geers turning and progressive lawyers throwing rocks in the gears. it's all they have. they can sthoult constitutional crisis and slow the process so what do you have with a number of these courts? they put in place temporary restraining orders so temporary stays, they are temporary and say we are likely proceed on the merits we progressive lawyers therefore we will pause the administration as it plays out but you know what it means as an attorney. that means weeks to decide whether that temporary restraining orders stays in place and months potentially for regular litigation so these proceed aggressive lawyers are throwing rocks. i believe trump is sturdy on the law. it will take time to figure out this is the best play that a listless group has to play at this moment. >> fox news legal editor carrie

with more. can you break down the decision and what this means moving forward? >> well, this decision is certainly a win for the contusion and separation powers. as they look for fraud actually what i meant was of course the government can freeze funds as they deem necessary as provided they have the authority to do that and it will be a case-by-case basis with some of this funding what are the terms of the grant, what are the terms of the appropriation, but the reason i find this to be a relief was because frankly i've been concerned about a brewing constitutional crisis not from the executive bench, from the article iii judiciary from what we have seen and the court blocking the treasury department are conducting an audit is this push by judges to interfere in the day to day legitimate mat functions of the executive

branch and that's a violation of the separation of powers and we have seen this again and again over the last week and a half so certainly the clarification with respect to the freezing of federal funds is the a step in the right direction. >> carrie, it's harris. i have a question. would this be something that something that would assist the dhs secretary and clawing back the funds we didn't know about until it was moving of does this decision say anything paid out if this federal judge's ruling a paralyze to those funds can you get that money back but none can claw that back. that money was almost surreptitious after over a billion had already been spent so i'm wondering if money that should have been frozen should have gone on the. whauts the claw back process?

>> i do think again we are going to have to look at situations on case-by-case basis so with respect to your question i would want to know what were the terms that fema set up with new york city, the money that has caught attention that was paid out, the news in the last couple of days, you know i'm not clear on if that was say for a bill from 2024 that was owed is it something that was forward looking but certainly what it does is it rightfully confirms the federal government's authority to be able to dictate how they spend their money. that's what is important here provided they have the opportunity to do it, and the key is the terms of the contract, the terms of the grapt so i think with respect to fema we would need to know with the hotel what the terms were but it's a step in the right direction as far as the executive branch being able to function on a basic level. >> final question to you, there are a lot of current lawsuits against the trump administration

and are there overlapping wishes this, will this set a precedent in any events around the corner the president can look forward to confirming the stable ground as you said earlier? >> yes, i think it is a step in the right direction to just restoring the separation of powers, just more generally, so for instance the treasury department audit we have been talking about it's outrageous a judge has said that political appointments can audit the treasury. it's unpresents dentdz and i think it's in part not an excuse but there is confusion and doge that a security clearance is needed say, look at information containing some one social security number that's not the case unless it's tied to government deemed sensitive positions.

you'll have some one from hhs gsa and the like. it's called detail, when i was at the department of justice i was employed at doj but i was detailed over at the white house counsel office as detail' to work on the brent kavanaugh confirmation. they pulled in people from various agencies to work on. i had a white house email, a blue badge but was employed by the department of justice. these are normal processes and it's something the average person doesn't understand and it's important we bring clarity how that works. >> carrie thanks for that insight. the part about protecting the information to me as a federal attorney when my information along with 21.6 other americans' americans information was puts on blast across the globe. this is the same incompetence trying to protect us that has

risked or safety and security and the financial stewardship of money so here the courts are saying no, believe me the adults are back in the room. >> yeah i think this sproech a two prong approach. slow this thing down as much as possible, but also continue a different narrative. tive court system and the court of public opinion. i had a conversation with a relative over the weekend and swheesz concerned that some of these recipients of u.s. aid weren't going to get it people that were starving and that gets to all of us and this is something we have taken pride n. we have saved the world after two world wars. we have rebuilt confidence. we are the centerpiece of global trade but the problem is that our great intentions as americans and end users we try to help around the world these other forces have got in the

way, ngo's and foreign officials and they're sucking up the money so a billion into this box and they trickle out a few million here and claim victory, people need to understand we need to break down the barriers. you mentioned how opaque this is. break it down so we can see this is criminal. americans have a beautiful heart we want to help everyone and these folks have wedged themselves in the middle and stealing billions of dollars. elon musk asked yesterday how did they live the way they live, how do they have so much money? how do you go to congress making $150,000 a year and walk out with millions. what are these ngo's? two things that are legitimate that we have tried to help because we get rid of this, we can help them with more and spend billions yes will that's the crazy part of it. >> because nancy pelosi has got

wealthy two. breaking news, president trump has spoke within russian president putin and details come directly from the president. he has put out on his truth social so it's everywhere now that they discussed ukraine the middle east energy artificial intelligence and the dollar. he revealed the two agreed to visit each other's countries. he said, i had a lengthy highly productive phone call with president vladimir putin of russia. i reads what he talked about. we both reflected on the great history of our nation's, and the fact we fought so successfully together in world war ii remembering russia lost 10s of millions of people as we lost so many. we talked about the respect i have strengths of our nation's and the benefit we will have working together. so this is trump posting about his recent call just moments ago with putin. he said but first as we both

agreed we want to stop the millions of deaths taking place in the war with russia and ukraine. president putin even used my very strong motto of common sense. we both believe very strongly in it. we agreed to work together very closely, including visiting each other's nations. we also have agreed to our respective terms starting negotiations immediately and we will begin by calling president zelenskyy of ukraine to inform him of the conversation, something i will be doing right now. so this is playing out contemporaneously as we are here live on outnumbered. i have act secretary of state marco rubio, john radcliffe, michael walz and ambassador and special envoy steve whitcoff to lead the negotiations. millions of people have died in a war that would not have

happened if i were president but it did happen so it must end. and for the release yesterday of mark nothing el, a wonderful man that i personally greeted last night at the white house i believe this effort will lead to a successful conclusion, hopefully soon, the president of the united states. charles. >> amazing. absolutely amazing hands on getting things done, it's hard to put iinto words. i actually was getting goosebumps as you read that because of what we have seen just in the last few weeks, what we have already seen including getting mark fogle home and it just makes you feel pretty confident that this conflict will be resolved much sooner than anybody had anticipated and to president trump's point it did not start on his watch and

probably would not have started on his watch. >> you know it is a promise that we now know on july 13th the conversation he was having with mark fogle's mother and he promised he would bring home and he talks about made promises kept campaign having to do with all of america but it can be personal too. you've been there with a front row seat when it gets personal. >> that was a personal story and it was face nating to hear and reading that true social as did you i was thinking about foreign policy the last decade and a half and you think about president obama and putin and his invasion of crimea and obama responded with minor sanctions. trump comes in it's stability for years. there's no russia annex, xy or z. and over three weeks time, mark

fogle is released and there's this conversation and talk about winding down the war in ukraine. there's a lot of if's. if he manages to wind down the war in ukraine get a status quo in the middle east where iran is on its heels and saudi peace deal this is a residential define presidential move that would put knew the realm of ronald reagan. a lot to be played out only three weeks in but these are very encouraging signs. >> i know it's a big moment and on this couch kaley and emily and i will talk about our faith and i think at this time our enemies don't like this. and if you were ever going to pray for a president and the united states of america, now would be a really to pray for our protection as a nation and for his. you talk about the speed at which he's moving, our enemies are leaning all the way in. >> ten hostages released in three weeks and to mark fogle's

point when he was released he thinks the entire diplomatic corps that each played a part under what he calls the president of the united states as his hero's direction, the action the speefd which americans have seen results that families have seen results like mark's family, they have been waiting for this and received a phone call by the state department during biden's administration letting them know their beloved brother was not involved in the hostage release that involved brittney griner. i note number one that president trump referenced that negotiations will be led by the director of the cia by secretary of state rubio walz they will manage the negotiations, this is a delegation unhis executionchy think is hallmark of this presidency we talked about he surrounded himself with people who have the same vision and

will be in lock step with putting america's priorities first and the visit between the two presidents promised in this men i think will be phenomenal into that's important. on that day july 13th last summer when he had the conversation with mark fogle's mom now 95 i promise to bring your son home two or three hours within that whole realm was the first assassination attempt, presidential candidate who had been shot in butler, pennsylvania. he never lost track of that promise he made to her. >> it actually solidified his resolve. inyears the gap in between his presidency and that's what is so unprecedented about this because normally a two term president by their second term they're absolutely exhausted under the weight of the responsibility of the job, you know. we have never seen in our lifetime who has four years to really consider what they would

do, with the energy of getting back into the white house, but what actually makes me, i'm not surprised by this based on what leases done. what makes me really sad is joe biden could have picked up the phone. joe biden could have had this conversation. joe biden could have saved thousands of lives. if this is what it takes i would like to think if it's simple as a conversation the hundred billion dollars we send to ukraine how many hundreds of thousands of people dead. >> yeah it's a great point. i guess i asked because the man who managed to call people garbage on the right side of the aisle in the latter days who hurt the presidential candidate for sure could that man have led to this much. >> now we get to look forward. >> we don't have to look back. speaking of looking forward we have had so much breaking news in the last hour and hitting some of it, i want to put a fine point on this president trump's cabinet is shaping up so the u.s. senate voted in full full

to confirm his choice of director of national intelligence tulsi gabbard and now we are waiting a senate vote for hhs no. any robert f. kennedy and you may have seen senator marsha blackburn she went to vote in favor of rfk, jr. so now will go to full vote as well. so kaley, we talk about the speed at which this is happening blackburn just said now it's caught up in past where biden and obama were in their confirmations and we have fallen behind with him getting his cabinet together because democrats are trying to stop him. >> i was listening to you speak with senator blackburn, who in their right mind would have guessed that? first it was pete, he's not going across the finish line, then tulsi gabbard is going to hobble along. she got 52 votes she only lost

one republican according to blackburn. >> mcconnell. >> exactly and when you look in this time period you had trump getting six nominees confirmed in his first term. now he gets 13 confirmed so double, you see the fact that laurie chávez the last question mark i think she will get through, we're looking at a scenario where every single one of trump's nominees gets huge. that's huge. that's political capital. >> that's interesting kennedy because i wonder too when america sees the movement with this president are they picking up the phone? because we always say if you want to get something done call your local congressman or senator. this can make a difference now. >> people feel empowered because he won the electoral and popular vote and people are coming out of the shadows and openly talking about their support for this president and their support for change and i think part of that is they haven't activated

their thick of the status quo that is costing them so much money and freedom and you're right they're picking up the phone applying pressure because people sitting on the fence want to see how this plays out how these non-traditional nominees manifest their new found power and will it be better for all americans. >> how important is this for the economy? we saw inflation numbers tick back up. talk to me charles. >> today bond yields are up, stock pressure under pressure, sticky inflation won't go away, it's tough stuff, motor vehicle repairs, things like that, rents, really today when that number came across the first thing i thought was doge is more important than yesterday, because we cannot get our economic house in order if our government is running $36 trillion deficits.

and we've got to bring it down. doge is so critical. these point's hitting the ground running love it. as soon as they get confirmation bam they're out the door making things happen. >> emily you said something that resonated with my heart because i know in a family when something happens it's all hands on deck and right now not to put too fine a point this feels familial around president trump. he can debt the department of transportation sect duffey out with christie nome out and approach differently and approach differently with all hands on deck. i see him needsing to do that next with this economy. >> and knowing to your point the hands on deck they have a primary allegiance to the constitution with loyalty to the current commander-in-chief so knowing the view and policies

will be done as you talk about the importance of doge and the subcommittee, the trillions in waste to foreign entities to terrorist groups, to domestic groups, this siphoning off to the tune of trillions is so staggering it's difficult for us to wrap our mind around it but the reality is as the doge ticker continues we will see an increased value back in american pockets and to your point about alignment tulsi gabbard says her priority is to stop the politicization of the committee. >> senate is working to break that filibuster around rfk so it can go forward a reach a full vote count so now we have learned that that happened and we knew that marsha blackburn senator from tennessee said it would and she was going to vote.

she didn't anticipate a problem ability when that hits just to get a quick response from you and it's time for that u.s. senate vote we don't anticipate any. spkr4: after what you pointed out it was crazy in the beginning how all these people might not make it onto the cabinet. >> and he was another big question mark that he made it out of committee. the last question is laurie chávez gets through, trump has his cabinet of winners he put forward and wanted. >> can we move any faster? >> what about montiel losing -- milk mcconnell losing that vote? somebody that doesn't have accountability for election. >> we will move forward and president trump has been in office three weeks. democrats in the mainstream media are dialling up outrage with a new buzzword, well two

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scenarios for trump allies. >> so far thief been talking tough, but i think largely have complied with these court orders. >> then what's next if they do defy a court order? >> first thing you do would be go back to the court and hold the administration or the individuals who are not complying in contempt, and there are a series of remedies that the court can order if someone is con tempted, including jailing them. >> the great dilemma is that the jailer is hired by the president. the president of the united states has control over the department of justice. if he decides that the u.s. marshals are not going to enforce the court order, then what is already a crisis becomes a catastrophe. then the system is broken. it's all hell broken loose.

>> he's a harvard professor. i mean that's larry tribe talking about trump controlling the jailer. we are back to talking about jail everyone, except trump says he will abide by exactly what the courts tell him to do. >> i always abide by the courts and will have to appeal it but what he's done is roads down the momentum and it gives crooked people more time to cover up the books. you know, if a person is crooked and they get caught, other people see that and all after sudden it becomes harder later on so yeah, the answer is i always abide by the courts. i always abide by them and will appeal, but appeals take a long time. >> so, emily i read the koran stript and he said i always abide by the courts. he said this tuesday. so why are we doing prospective segments on a monday evening about jailing trump and his

opponent? >> because the new chapter of trump derangement syndrome is the constitutional crisis that his presidency because the democrats cannot handle he's doing great work immediately and americans are happy and excited and end of the day i find ironic it's the democrats that use such ferocious vine language not only toward president trump and anyone associated with him but also regarding the korth. the president's was process kutdz unfairly and frankly unconstitutionally on multiple fronts yet always said i will abide by what the courts decide a pointed out corruption but never once said i will buck a judgment but the dems are doxing judgment so to me they can say what they want to each other but i'm tired of hearing their talking point because ends of the day the thoughtful conversation americans want to have is only on the right where

are our tax dollars going and our safety. >> remember what biden and obama said. it sounded a little different than abide by the courts. >> we are not going to just be waiting for legislation in order to make sure that we are providing plens the kinds of help that they need. >> middle class families can't wait for republicans in congress to do stuff. so sue me. >> supreme court didn't stop me. >> were those jail worthy remarks to lawrence tribe of harvard? >> to his metric and words, yes absolutely. these are sitting presidents who felt like they were above the law and they were opening thwarting court decrees and that according to lawrence tribe is

actionable. constitutional crisis is the new russia gate so cut and paste the phrase over the democrats and the media establishment were using about trump being putin's puppet in 2017 and if trump were on the wrong side of the law michael would be in his second presidential term. >> right. tribe said his remarks were not for trump but for his allies and why did they jump to this? >> all right. really? he's a profile at using his words. come on. i think that last one sticks in the craw of democrats. it wasn't just a court, it was the highest court in the land, the u.s. supreme court and biden thought he could thwart that for political gain. he went back an informant and wasn't on the ticket for presidential return to the white house. it's been a mess, a blank show all the way down the road and now they want to bring this back in. look. president trump just made the

words russia, russia, russia have new meaning. he's done a deal to get an american home after four years cab activity. who knows what would have happened had he not stepped in and now ushering into play a deal to end the war between russia a ukraine after russia invaded another country on biden's watch. yeah. he can change the meaning on this too. he will bring the receipts, and all this constitutional crisis i guess that will become like that will have a new meaning of it's not real. >> it's also rather lazy charles threat to democracy didn't work during the election so let's pop open constitutional crisis. >> they're opening up one page in the playbook, fear monk -- mongering. they're not hopeful. there's always a plan to bring people up or put peoples in jail. it's absolutely nuts, and they

hate the constitution. if they had it their way they would rip the constitution up. i've heard them say it's an old document. we should bho up the supreme court and put 25 people on it. they hate the foundation of america and the other word constitution is so funny out of their lips. >> many call for agenda for working class americans. we are on that in a moment. things move a little more smoothly. ♪ deposit checks easily and send money quickly. [coins clinking] ♪ that's convenience from chase. make more of what's yours.

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fibs the average got aways at the southern boarder is just 132. that is a 93 percent drop from the biden administration in fiscal year 2023 when average more than 1800 got away were record evidence every day. that source is telling fox in part, tlifrg consequences has results and we have only just begun, finishing policy matters. charles. >> yeah, we start to show up talking promises made promise's kept but at warp speed. i saw a poll in colombia where the president is polling higher than the president of colombia after the move he made. people appreciate this and you got to say you feel more comfortable you feel safer and you feel like the white house is taking us seriously so all the people that president trump has

on the team to the points made earlier deployed immediately physically going to these administrations, our border czar couldn't find a border. >> the president is not taking his foot off the gas with the southern border. he says we are not getting these guys out fast enough. he wanted to ramp up the pace and the volume with how many here. >> all the reporting say trump wants them to go faster. by any measure this is extraordinary what he's done. you put up the got away numbers bringing that down by 93 percent n. the final days of biden administration fox reporting there were 2869 encounters at the border per day. trump brought that in his first 7 days down to over a thousand so he cut out the southern border two thirds of the number of those arriving. when you add the number of

deportations and arrests we went from net positive immigration over the southern border to net negative meaning migrants are going back home rather than coming over. that's an impressive achievement but he wants more. >> i think to your point kennedy the northern border matters also, contrary to left that says any criticism of the board earthers is race founding. it's about the securities of america. a sheriff of northern county was talking about canadian fentanyl. they had enough coming through to kill nine million people in one fell swoop and of the majority happened to be india and it changes. the point is it's too much. it's not definable in that way. it has to stop, and that the expel has to occur with the

allyship of our neighbors which president trump has made a priority and is working. >> yes and reversing that horrific trend on the fentanyl trend and overdoses is a necessity and i look at people like why would you put something in your body that comes from dealer whether it's cocaine or pills, something you don't know what the ingredients are or where it was manufactured? it is almost had a death sentence for people and also, in materials of the southern border because you're absolutely right the northern boarder is massive and porous, and drugs will always find a way. they will also find a weak spot. but in in materials of the southern border people are turning themselves back around. they're going back to colombia venezuela and el salvador and ecuador. they are heading back to those places because they know that the border is closed for business the way it was when it was a nonstop party under the

biden harris administration. love the contrast between holman and kamala harris. >> what was your word earlier frozen in place? look. just a couple things piggybacking off what ken city talking about we could be on the verge of getting a new hhs cabinet member a secretary in rfk, jr. we know we have got the cdc. we have got other avenues. what if, cnn uses that for other words, what if the trump the president treats the situation of fentanyl the way he treats having else all hands on deck? you've got that. you've got treasury because there's money with those cartels and all that drug money coming in and getting people killed as they distribute it across the nation, you've got law enforcement in, if you attack that the way that you need to from a health standpoint much

driven by addiction it's hard for people just to say no. i don't know where this came from but they're addicted. my first visit to israel was tel aviv to jerusalem, back to the capital city of that nation. there were banners that were two to three feet long on road, on the lights going up all the way up to the new u.s. embassy starting at the center of town jerusalem that said promises made promises kept. to your point that's not even their leader. and so, they could see the value in him keeping his word. this is him keeping his word. by the way he said zero. let's see if they get there. >> that is a global impact. all right, guys, more outnumbere d in just a moment. here on my land, not theirs.

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getting mark fogle released? >> i don't know that answer. >> did we exchange anyone in release? >> no, this was unilateral release, as well as [indistinct] before. >> [indistinct]. >> i think the venezuelan government should. i think they took a big step forward in releasing those to rick ronel and should release the rest. i will tell you this administration and president are not going to forget about any americans so it will be down to the last one. i think it would be very smart

of venezuela to release the rest of the hostages that they have. >> [indistinct] do you have any tease for us now? >> no teases now. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> we wanted to give that just a moment to breathe was you heard that reporter ask a final question and he did turn but didn't have anything else to say. this is coming in and now you know only what we know. so the number one question i was asking adam bohler special envoy to the united states hostages bringing them home, he was asked are they all american? are there other countries? what's happening and where and he couldn't give much detail but as these things come together, as we have seen this unfold the big news there is something

afoot that potentially involves our people. all right. i'm being told. okay. three detainees released from belarus, and one is american. so, belarus sits on that border. remember beginning of the russia invading ukraine war they were a staging area for some of those troops up to 200,000 at one point at the very beginning of biden's term when he was talking about hope we don't have a minor incursion, that's where some of them were amassing on the boardser in belarus and now three detainees that were inside that russia friend that territorial family member if you will with russia belarus have been released and one american is among them, again charles. >> and i think the thing here and you can see from the questioning is, optimism that all americans being held around the world will be coming home at

some point and you could even start to ask and he couldn't hide his joy, right? the smile and optimism said it all but coming in saying how about more from venezuela? someone before that was asking a different thing. >> right. >> so we are talking about being optimistic about bringing all americans home who have been sitting and rotting in jails in captivity around the world, to be quite frank it faded off the news, nobody talked about them anymore but they were human beings, they're americans and we have always had this pledge he would never let an american rot in a foreign jail and now something being done about it. >> i'm going to ask our team. i know some of the questions have answered. can we replay adam bohler in that news conference? are we ready to reroll that? okay, as we wait for that to

happen. emily. >> i think about again mark going's sister on fox sharing, you mentioned her mother who was 95, in a couple weeks she turns 96, she said i didn't think i two live to see my son come home. now she has the greatest birds dated gift her family complete promises made promises kept, the speed which we are seeing the implementation of president trump's promises to his fellow americans in this country we are seeing that take place in the realm of relatives coming home. >> this is enormously important, considering where they're coming from right next door from russia. your thoughts. >> yes, we are hoping this is yuri who was there protesting

the elections in belarus as lukashenko got his sixth term. i'm so hoping to see him back and gosh, secretary rubio is hitting it out the park, so is adam bohler, who has been involved in everything from operation warp speed to the abraham accords so diplomatic triumph so close for the trump administration. >> and i want to point out we do not have the identity of the american who has been released as you mentioned but what you couched it with, you are hoping so. i want to get your perspective and you told us about adam bohlor. how is it surprising there is happening when president biden had four years of telling people around the globe don't do this or that, maybe he wasn't focused on these hostages i don't know but just in your perspective.

>> oh, day and night difference because biden apparently even discussed this case of this person we are hoping, discussed the belarus incident and when jankovich was arrested detained the biden administration may have discussed this with the russians, but here is bohler making the happen and i hope this is a sign of further progress with russia and everything else that's going on too so let's keep these discussions going and hopefully we will see an american coming home soon. >> again, we had one yesterday, last night and again and again and again until we bring them all home. before i let you go dr. grant this is part of that big story we led with the breaking news today about negotiations perhaps for peace between russia and ukraine. you say maybe this is part after

bigger picture. how could you see that playing how the? >> well, the sticking point really has been putin was not willing to talk, but what we are hearing is that he is, maybe it's because we are threatening to go after his shadow oil fleet up in the baltics, maybe there's other pressure going on and ukraine putting up he have resistance so the key to all this is putin being ready to talk. >> dr. grant thank you for your expertise and time. we are waiting to find out to that american is three detainees released from belarus one american, kennedy was just talking about dr. grant and the kind of pressure that may have been put on russia. your thoughts. >> we are seeing a completely different script here and it's always been a moral struggle with this country because we don't want to pay for hostages. we don't necessarily want to use a military incursion or force to extract them because you could

put more lives at risk so what we are seeing now is a new way of negotiating, and hopefully this will be a much more successful template quickly specially in terms of americans or hostages in israel, because we need a new way of doing things. >> so kaley i've often say, we . but we are getting and we know this is moments away now from the white house press briefing, we are getting word now that will start on time. we have been told the top of the hour earlier today, and we are inching our way toward that. a lot of pressure now to give us as much as they know. we might learn the name of this american who was released. moments away from press secretary karoline leavitt. >> yeah, i worked with adam boehler on operation world

work speed. this is someone went to the united arab emirates, saudi arabia, met with the taliban, southeast asia, china to work: during china's belt and road initiative. i bring that all up to say i watched him last night and it appeared to be a skype feed or a cell phone interview alongside marco rubio after marc fogel's victory, knowing this was on the horizon, i am not surprised. this is an extraordinarily accomplished team. >> you know what, you are talking about the humanity of people fighting for americans abroad and for our policies and everything. it was uniquely refreshing to see the emotion. he couldn't tell us everything, but he had emotion around it. i think we will continue to see that, that the president looked so -- just emotionally relieved and joyful to welcome home marc fogel last night, as well. all right, "america reports" now. don't you move. more news. >> what .s