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>> steve: it is 8:00 in new york city. it is kind of rainy and drizzly day. glad you joined us on this thursday, february 13th, "fox and friends." welcome to hour three. confirmation for r.f.k. jr. for

hhs secretary. will he have needed support? >> ainsley: and what lawmakers are calling usaid betrayal, we'll bring you that live. >> brian: trump's border czar heading to new york city to face-off with mayor adams again and tom homan is not happy with the mayor recently exonerated from charges. it is about time got dressed. >> ainsley: very busy day ahead on capitol hill. in just two hours, senate will vote on r.f.k. jr. confirmation to serve as hhs secretary. >> brian: chad pergram joins us with a preview of alling the confirmations today. >> chad: confirmation vote on r.f.k. jr. comes after senate broke a filibuster on the situation and blasting kennedy's understanding of medicaid and

vaccines in a late-night session. >> when robertf kennedy jr. ad adopted and amplified wildest conspiracy theories out there, most notably his belief there is not a single safe vaccine in united states of america, it has consequences. >> chad: question is not whether senate will confirm kennedy, whether they will all vote yes. collins and murkowski will support kennedy. mcconnell suffered from polio as a child, he was the lone gop no on the confirmation vote of tulsi gabbard to become national intelligence director. republicans rallied around kennedy. >> mr. kennedy is committed to re

reorienting our healthcare approach and restoring faith in our institutions. his passion for addressing america's chronic disease epidemic will save lives, reduce costs and establish a foundation for a healthier, stronger country. >> chad: democrats are raging about doge and not holding up nominations to protest. >> will you try to stretch out other nominees less contlo tro versial, like kelly loeffler loeffler and -- >> we are focusing on r.f.k. jr., he would be a disaster. his belief and conspiracy would hurt health of american people. >> chad: democrats relented and will allow confirmation vote on brooke rawlins today and break

filibusters on two other nominees today. back to you. >> steve: chad, getting in the way-back machine, you were with us talking about upcoming confirmation hearings and talking democrats were going to throw everything at all of them, the kitchen sink approach. fast-forward to today with exception of gaetz, they have all sailed through, a lot has to do with testimony and a lot has to do with donald trump and a phone. >> chad: you mentioned j.d. vance, he's relied on his relationships with some of the senators during his time in the s senate. it was brief.

he's worked with republicans who are skeptical. there has been bipartisan support. through gabbard they confirmed 14 so far and 11 had gotten bipartisan support. gabbard did not get any democrats yesterday and kennedy will not today. >> ainsley: when it comes to r.f.k., maha excited about this nominee. how hard to put what he wants to do in place? >> chad: he actually has pretty good relationships with some liberals, this came up at confirmation hearing from bernie sanders. they used to work together on environmental policy issues. i don't think any democrats will vote on him today. there are issues about food and

pharmaceuticals and stuff like that, they might find common ground. >> brian: went from a slow start to an obama-like case. senator thune has done a good job. numbers look respectable in terms of confirmation, right? >> chad: absolutely and other confirmations are in the queue and will get over today for kelly loeffler and howard lutnick. they will vote on them next week and report out of committee kash patel for fbi director, they will vote on him tomorrow -- next week, i should say. that is controversial to democrats as gabbard and also r.f.k. jr. maybe a confirmation vote on that next week. reason they were willing to step on the gas and move this out to thursday, man bipartisan

senators wanted to go to munich for annual security conversation. they will move back to conversations next week. >> steve: at the munich security conference, which starts tomorrow, is there beer? >> chad: absolutely and bratwurst, and potato salad. the hofbraugh haus. i studied in germany as a student. my class was first to study in what was east berlin. [speaking german] >> chad: i speak a little bit of german. >> brian: my family bet on german being a future language in america. bad bet. >> ainsley: sounds like a good

school. >> steve: it looked like german could be, that is in the rearview. thank you, chad. >> ainsley: and chad is a scotch guy. >> steve: bourbon. >> ainsley: no, we'll check back had in. >> steve: scotch whiskey. >> brian: very good at his job. department of government efficient securing two big wins. >> ainsley: another ruling administration can limit access to federal funds under certain conditions. >> steve: peter doocy joins us live, did they doge a bullet? >> peter: they did doge a bullet and federal judge is telling unions trying to stop the federal workforce buyout to stop it. this ruling came down from a judge in massachusetts. unions do not have a direct stake in the directive.

this court lacks subject matter jurisdiction. so far trump team believes they have shrunk federal workforce by 3% and 75,000 people want to take offered buyout as long as it holds up in courts and that will be 75,000 fewer federal workers. another win for the white house, different federal judge in rhode island, resulted president and advisors can cut or freeze federal spending as long as existing laws on the books are being followed. >> president trump: they are taking massive amounts of money and spending. i went through 200 expenditures made and three looked reasonable. i want to commend elon musk. he does not need this. he is abused by you people

everyday and he's got credibility to do it. >> peter: president trump will have a press conference about this later today. that would be what highlights of doge are, there is a lot they are doing. doge cancelled 58 contract worth 150 million just yesterday. back to you. >> steve: i know elon and president are pals why is elon paying donald trump $10 million? >> peter: because donald trump sued twitter when it was called twitter and before elon owned it. they kicked him off the platform in 2001 and trump has been settling lawsuits and collected 25 million from meta for kicking him off facebook and instagram. and i believe they are putting most of this money toward the

trump presidential library to open sometime after 2029. >> brian: president will have one heck of a library. after first term, weren't talking about it. now it is going to be nicest one. where would it be? >> steve: that is the question, would it be in new york -- >> ainsley: or florida. >> steve: or new jersey. he loves new jersey and said he wants to be buried at bedminster in new jersey at his golf course. >> ainsley: really? u.s. versus new york. pam bondi is suing state of illinois and new york, suing our governor and ag leticia james and they clawed back 80 million, that money is federal money in a bank account here. congress approved it in 2023 and they put it in the new york bank accounts, money from fema shelter and services program and

now they go to check on the bank account and that federal money is gone. trump administration pulled that money because they are furious with new york city for the sanctuary status. >> steve: money was appropriated by fema. we were wondering how they were paying for that stuff, turns out they are using fema money that could go to disaster victims. >> brian: tom homan is upset at mayor eric adams. all talk when he says i will put ice back into rykers island prison now that we can send them out and many are venezuelans. not everyone is on the same page with those who want to crackdown like tom homan. one of which, not a surprise, alexandria ocasio-cortez.

yesterday she was offering in a zoom call to intervene for illegal immigrants and give them advice on how tou to avoid ice. it was her office doing it, she did not show up. >> ainsley: for a webinar. she could have done it from her car. >> steve: what she's saying if migrants are worried they will be deported, they need to sign privacy release form and tell their people. if you are a migrant in the country illegally and federal government says will you sign a privacy release form, how many people are going to think what exactly is this going to do? we've seen boiler playing legal stuff. i get why it is. i think if you are in the country illegally, you would be more likely not to sign it and she can't help you. >> ainsley: it is fear amongering. here is a clip what they heard

if you were watching this webinar. >> agents will go to homes early in the morning to make arrests, they will stop people on the street or public places including a workplace. >> they want to deceive you into thinking they are not ice or they lie so you believe they have a right to enter. >> if you are stopped on the street by an officer, ice or local police, you have right to ask, am i free to go, am i being detained? if answer is yes, then you can leave. >> brian: unless you are detained. >> ainsley: we had a guest here, christopher reid, he's never done a tv interview, he organized protests in the bronx, in aoc's district. they want to put that men's shelter there and he said he talked to everyone in the

community and not one person is for this. but aoc and other leaders are pushing this and he's saying it is taking away resources. he said, i'm all for immigrants doing it the right way. we had him on and this is what he said. >> being she wasn't there is a good testament to how much she cares about her constituents. one thing to give advice on how to evade the law and then not to show up to the webinar you are all about. to aoc, i would say, talk to your constituents, i've been through the neighborhoods and walked around and nobody wants it there. we had two protests, one demonstration and the more we have these things, the more people show up. that should be good indicator

how people feel about it. >> brian: crackdown on the border and follow-up on illegals overstays their welcome, it will help everyone. they don't deserve the help, there will be less people to house, less communities will be infringed upon all because i think the president of the united states is doing the right thing. previous president unloaded people into new york city and did not answer the call. they gfinancing when biden goes to delaware and says excuse me, you are not getting it. >> steve: tom homan will sit down with the mayor to figure out how ice can cooperate with the police department and vice versa. he got a reprieve from department of justice under donald trump, i have a feeling this week the mayor will be more helpful to mr. homan than in the past. >> ainsley: trump movement is

interesting to follow. trump got so many more votes in liberal blue new york city than four years ago. where christopher lives, up 22%, he went to barber shops and served pizza in queens, up 22%, richmond 15%, and king 13% and brooklyn 11%. >> steve: shows how powerful he was running on. >> brian: mayor adams has to deal with the -- pam bondi's suit has to be successful and no excuses. 17 after the hour and carley is working on news. >> carley: fox news alert, driver plowing into a large group of demonstrators in munich, germany and at least 28 people are hurt. local authorities are investigating it as an attack and arrested a 24-year-old

afghan asylum seeker. this is a day ahead of the munich security conference. j.d. vance is there and will be meeting with zelenskyy. and president trump announced he is set to enact tariffs today. prime minister modi arrived in the u.s. last night. modi hopes to strengthen india's relationship with the u.s. and avoid trade war. not just bird flu, it is driving up cost of eggs. ainsley spoke with vice president of eggs unlimited. >> the crisis, we're going through the worst bird flu outbreak we've had in the last 10 years, since 2015. there are different catalysts flying over the country and some

speculation around drones flying around farms bringing virus in. >> carley: how about what he said about drones. grocery chains are introducing limits on egg purchases. those are your headlines. that thing about drones stuck out to me. never thought about that before. >> steve: last week when he was in kansas city, the hotel we were staying at had a grocery store convention there and i met grocery store owners from alabama, that were telling us because eggs are so expensive, some people cannot afford to buy a dozen eggs, some grocery stores are selling eggs for $1.50 each. that is so sad. >> brian: and new york city, selling wild eggs, pick one up. >> ainsley: is saw on the door of a grocery store, there was

scripture saying only take what you need, don't buy them all, don't try to hoard. >> steve: that is why they are doing limits. trader joe's one carton per day. >> brian: leviticus. >> ainsley: about not being greedy. >> brian: never talked more about eggs in my life, that is all we do, talk about eggs. >> steve: we're a breakfast show. >> ainsley: everyone is eating eggs right now. >> steve: and bacon. >> brian: you can't have p pancakes, eggs are in pancakes. >> ainsley: and if you get bird flu in your chicken, you have to kill all your chickens. they are not sure, investigating how they get the bird flu.

they were safe and healthy when they were bought or made and then birds, wild birds are flying over them and infecting them. >> steve: and then the whole flock has got it, that is why prices are high. >> brian: it is called nature, this is earth, we can't control everything. >> steve: virus. >> brian: wild birds touch good chickens, what do you do? >> steve: what we're doing is paying $1.50 an egg. busy day on capitol hill. in a couple of minutes hearing will begin on usaid spending. >> brian: trump administration is suing new york city. judge jeanine pirro is on deck to talk about it.

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you will be held accountable, it is over, it ends and we're coming after you. >> ainsley: co-host of 501(c)(3) judge jeanine pirro. >> ainsley: you look beautiful. >> you are so kind. >> ainsley: you know the laws of new york especially. will this go anywhere? >> judge jeanine: it definitely will. president trump says it is crisis of illegal immigration and american public is with him on it. vast majority, 83% want wholesale change. this lawsuit is being brought against state of new york after they sued illinois last week. they said your sanctuary policy are obstructing federal law. there is supremacy clause that preempts state laws. in 2019, new york passed green light law that said any illegal that wants drivers license,

we'll give it to you. problem with that, they are refusing to give any information from the license, whether identification, whether address, whether vehicle registration and when you have law enforcement, local, state, border patrol, anyone else, in terms of realtime, coming up against an individual and they cannot get information from dmv, that has to be shot down. border patrol, ice, everyone is in danger. you have all of this attempt to p prevent federal government from enforcing the law. pam bondi is right, you can't have a law and think you are on your own. there is supremacy clause here and kathy hochul says we'll stand by new yorkers and not back down. they are illegal immigrants, governor, it is reflected in terms of law enforcement and money, there is economy,

clawback on fema, federal funds. this is out of control and donald trump is saying no more. >> ainsley: sounds like because of supremesay clause, donald trump will win. >> judge jeanine: he should win on this. green light law is every state saying we're our own nation and will not abide by constitution. immigration is a federal issue, state has no role to platelet and they don't have to do anything, they cannot obstruct federal government. >> ainsley: what happens if pam bondi wins one of these cases, what does that mean for sanctuary cities and states elsewhere? >> judge jeanine: you will lose money, lose fema money and see deportations happen quicker. they will hold them in contempt and this is kind of thing president trump said he would do and he's doing it. >> ainsley: you have a special c called "subway justice," it is

about daniel penny. let's watch a clip. >> you had to put facts in front of the jury, district attorney had to admit danny's intentions were laudable. he took jordan neely down for the right reason to protect other passengers. >> judge jeanine: a jury agreed. >> judge jeanine: what is great about this fox nation special, we talk about danny penny and we talk about bernie getz, decks adecks -- decades apart but same courthouse, same address in new york city and you see how society has not changed that much. people have to defend themselves or others and you look at how the jury responded. sim similarity between them, watch this fox nation special. >> ainsley: thank you, judge, it

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>> steve: coming up today, education secretary linda mcmahon will face the senate for her confirmation hearing, with much focus on how president trump plans to dismantle department of education. part of her opening statement says president trump planned to make american education the best

in the world, free students from bureaucracy through school choice. november proved americans support the president's vision and i am ready to enact it. joining us is education secretary bill bennett. good morning. >> steve: i remember back in the day when you were education secretary for ronald reagan, reagan was talking about getting rid of the department. >> that is right, my confirmation was held up until ronald reagan said he would not get rid of it. that is her task, she can't dissolve the department, she can change the directon of a lot of the department. >> steve: during what we've heard so far, she worked at the

sba, ran a wrestling league. part of sba stuff is applicable because so much of the department of education are student loans. >> you got it, i had a brief conversation wither had, she said i don't know education literature. i said, advantage one, linda, most of the literature is on the wrong track. common sense, teach kids how to read, write, count and thing and develop standards of right and wrong. half of prices are student loans, 1.7 trillion in student loans are owed. federal government, only federal government would do this, count those 1.7 million loans owed as an asset. they may get a trillion back,

they will not get them all. get them back to the private sector from which they were stolen by the fft government and obama administration and they will do better, that is half the budget. >> steve: absolutely. a lot of money that goes to the states come in the form of block grants, which states love, that is their bread and butter. there should be strings attached. we'll give you it is dollars, the kids have to be able to know how to read. >> the most will go to california, what is gavin newsom going to do with that money? put conditions on it. have school choice and we got to have accountability. we want to know if kids are learning to read by third grade, that is critical or they are likely lost. >> steve: bill bennett from d.c.

i'll cut you short, woo have a fox news alert. house lawmakers beginning a hearing on usaid and concerns over foreign spending, live on capitol hill. let's listen to brian mast. >> these programs will not continue. they are going to come to an end. my colleagues to the left are arguing for these programs to continue. arguing for people who put the programs in place to go back to work, arguing that the agency that did this be allowed to continue wasting your money. they're going to argue president trump does not have authority to do this. fact is of those in congress, all but three of them voted to give him the authority in 2024 and says specifically that administration may expand, eliminate, consolidate or

downsize covered departments, agencies or organizations, that is language. not just content of usaid that is the betrayal, it is the larceny that usaid has conducted, crooked ngos around washington, d.c., swindling taxpayers out of their mob money. usaid partners were using upward of 50% of grants for costs not life-saving measures. aid pause is said to be temporary and they have proven recipients of usaid program can apply for waiver. i have a list with me. many have applied and many denied and some received wavesers that actually proved was life saving. let me give a warning to my colleagues, it will be shortsighted if you turn a blind eye to usaid betrayal and more

broadly betrayal within the state department. we are going to bring in the people who put these programs in place. we are going to show to the american people exactly what they were doing. the videos, the documents, everything they are going to see it. like 25,000 dollars for a drag show seminar for venezuelan migrants in ecuador and we are going to show that video. >> that is the usaid program spending your money. we will be writing these programs out of law as we conduct our first full state department review since 2002. i would say that when done right, foreign aid can be one of the best tools.

it can help strengthen our relationships with ashes lies that need a hand up and help countries realize that america is the best partner. it is only true if we understand a couple of things. what does america actually need from each country or region? what does that country or region actually want from the united states of america? because it is not these things and it is only fair to americans if we can prove that a dollar is better spent going abroad than staying in the pocket of an american who is right now hustling and grinding it out at work. i recognize ranking member. >> i want to welcome our witnesses to our first full committee hearing this congress. i would be remiss if i didn't make clear my disappointment in

the mess and chaos created by trump administration's unlawful attempt to shut out usaid and pause foreign assistance funds. we don't have anyone here today from the administration to explain, to appear and explain their actions before this committee. it shouldn't be just private sector individuals here. we are the oversight of the u.s. government and we should have members from the state department, the secretary of state marco rubio, president and my democratic colleagues and i have asked the chairman to have a committee hearing with secretary rubio and i urge that to be done as soon as possible.

the american people deserve to have elected representatives question administration about the decision to shut down a government yaagency, establishe in law by congress. we don't have a king. we have a system. if the administration believes what they have done is legal and merited, they should be before congress. they should be here. they should be talking to the american people directly. we should be summoning them here. i also want to do away with the myth that this exercise with doge and usaid is about add addressing waste, fraud and abuse. if you care about waste, fraud and abuse, you don't illegal ly

fire 21 independent inspector generals in the dark of night. you don't fire the head of government ethics office. just this week, president trump fired usaid independent inspector general. just one day after he issued a report showing that the administration's own effort to dismantle usaid is wasting taxpayer dollars and putting our national security at risk. that is what is happening. national security is at risk. i'm asking unanimous consent to enter that ig's report into the record. this committee and the american people deserve to hear from the ig. i would urge you to invite the

inspector general to appear before this committee to tell us about the actual work of address ing waste, fraud and abuse if that is what this is really about. now many republicans, this has not been a partisan issue, many republicans have long championed u.s. fraud assistance as critical to our national security as a source of united states soft power and key to outcompete china's global influence. despite my disappointment over not having trump panelists here, i'm pleased among our witnesses today we have a number of individuals, who are republicans. my former colleague ted yoho, who i have traveled with on several times and we visited usaid programs.

i know when you go and travel and see first hand the work of dedicated usaid fraud officers, civil servants and local staff to whom we owe gratitude and thanks, not dishonor shown to them by wealthy billionaires with a social media platform. now i only have a few minutes left and won't spend my time debunking every mischaracterization or out right lie. these are distractions meant to obscure critical work usaid does. i instead submit to the record stories by wash"washington post new york times, dubious claims made by republicans. yes.

what i will use my time on is making clear that this hearing title, the usaid betrayal is absolutely correct because this is betrayal, trump administration is betraying our national security, betraying our allies, betraying americans who carry out usaid mission and most challenging and dangerous places, betraying generosity of the american people and betraying investment americans made to stop disease before they spread. make sure girls have same opportunity as boys and natural disaster have basic human necessities. it is betraying babies born with hiv who could have been born hiv free if we continue to provide mothers with necessary medication sitting on the

shelves. it is betraying america's victory in nearly wiping out polio by stopping funding to stamp it out in last two countries on earth with virus still present. look at kansas with outbreak of tuberculosis, it is not just programs. build stronger community and h help -- good governance, independent media, civil society programs in developing countries and ensure citizens can enjoy their god-given rights. who wins when we pull back, china wins. russia wins. our adversaries win. yes, this is betrayal, betrayal of our national security. i yield back balance of my time. >> thanks gentleman for yielding, i called it right what arguments are going to be. opening statements may be

submitted for the record. pleased to have witnesses here today, senior research fellow at margaret thacher senator at heritage foundation. honorable ted yeho, and honorable andrew notsio, from u.s. agency of international development. this committee recognizes importance of issues before us and grateful to have you here. your statements will be part of the record. keep comments to five minutes to allow for questions. hope you give us more than we read in your opening statement. gentleman from georgia, mr. mccormick be allowed to participate in today's hearing. without objection, so ordered. i recognize your opening statement. >> mr. chairman, thank you for the opportunity to testify before this committee, my name

is max primerak, senior research fellow at heritage foundation and served at u.s. agency for -- >> have mercy. >> restore -- [cheering] -- [yelling] -- restore aids funding, save lives. restore aids funding now, save lives. [chanting] -- >> i guess these guys don't watch news, the funding was restored, give them a link to

maybe fox news or something like that. resume opening statement. >> mr. chairman, i previously served at u.s. agency for international development and u.s. department of state and dedicated 35 years to international relations work. views i express today are my own. president trump's decision to shutter usaid reflects agency loss and trust of american people. it exposes bureaucracy that went off theide logical rails and no longer reflect the will or values of the american people. what should be and must be an effective tool of u.s. foreign policy turned into partisan global vehicle focused on spending money rather than achieving concrete aligned with american interest and posing radical ideas that divide us at home and spur resentiments

abroad. they refuse to be held accountable. advocates evoke danger to national security citing programs to counter cop communist china and provide life-saving humanitarian aid. i understand importance of these programs at usaid, i co-chaired and counter china inter-yairj group, oversaw containment of two ebola outbreak and led bureau for assistance. usaid obsession with identity politics, gender fluidity, p population control undermine these goals. americans are now aware of massive waste, fraud and abuse of their money. every project was corrupted by this radical agenda. they are not happy. usaid leadership failed in most basic fiduciary responsibility

to avoid reputational risk that would imperil legitimacy with congress and american people. usaid pushed developing countries to rely on communist china for green energy needs. two years ago, 131 african lawmakers from 13 countries implored congress not to use pepfar to promote abortion, stating we have suspicions this funding is supporting abortion and violates core lief concerning life, family and religion. many africans have told me that chinese do not ask us to give up our religion to do business with them. mr. chairman, our aid approach severely harmed our global standing. usaid humanitarian system is also broken, in gaza, american aid finance hamas campaign to exterminate israel, similarly in

afghanistan, syria, lack physical presence, our aid is sustaining war economies. usaid failed to properly manage billions entrusted to it. this committee discovered usaid partners were charging 50% or more for overhead, government audit, concerning 142 billion of aw awards. the funds proved a boom for foreign aced industry. president trump leadership created unique opportunity to fast-track important reform of our aid system. secretary rubio might look at reforms made during last trump administration. startings point was purpose of foreign aid was to end need for it. it is not international aid

program, not an international ngo, these must align with american interest and values. a final point, congress must also do its part. why should pro-hamas south africa, beijing point country receive billions of dollars of aid from us. we should support our friends instead. thank >> i now recognize mr. yoho for his opening statement. >> mr. chairman, ranking member meeks, members of the committee. it's an honor to participate in this hearing regarding usaid. i served from 2013 to 2021 representing florida's third congressional district. i served on this and the agricultural committee and chairman of the subcommittee during the 115th congress and entered congress with -- >> could you move closer to your

mic? >> it will help to turn the it on, too, won't it? i lost that knowledge already, huh? i entered congress with a goal of eliminating foreign aid for various reasons. i was ignorant on what i thought foreign aid was, thought it was unnecessary. soon after my first foreign congressional delegation trip i realized foreign aid when used properly can be a tool in soft diplomacy that strengthens a nation's economy, security and increases trade, decreases migration, creates strong partners and allies. when used improperly it has the opposite effect on both friends and adversaries and wastes taxpayers' money. i became a strong proponent of changing international assistance working with co-sponsors and the first trump administration when we introduced the bill back that created the dfc. the largest reform in foreign aid in two decades.

my goal was to move countries from aid to trade with the use of effective tools managed correctly. i chaired along with congressman adam smith the effective aid caucus and met with members and outside groups to prove efficiency on assistance. this committee has had many hearings dealing with usaid. it is frustrating an agency set up to further our security, prosperity, engage in humanitarian projects and work to prevent the speed. >> steve: you are watching at the hearing on spending. a little action in the room a moment ago. people escorted out. >> brian: it is important. this is a test of the doge program. he said there are programs that work, not all of them are corrupt. >> ainsley: the fear mongering won't work. if it's a lifesaving program they'll keep sending money to that program. >> steve: thank you for joining us. we'll hand it over to "america's newsroom" right now. >> bill: thanks and good morning. fast and furious