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early this morning. >> sandra: that announcement will be coming. any moment from the president as he signs more executive orders top of the hour and takes reporters questions on his plans for reciprocal tariffs. matching the rate of any country that charges duties on u.s. imports peered hello and welcome everyone, i am sandra smith in new york as we anticipate that, hello to you, john. >> john: it's like drinking from a firehose every day, isn't it? a plastic firehose, not a paper one. i am john roberts in washington and this is america reports. truth social, three great weeks, perhaps the best ever but today is the big one. reciprocal tariffs. make america great again. >> sandra: the world will be watching. it is all part of the plan that president trump campaigned trump campaigned on and we are expecting to learn more about those tariffs any moment now. >> john: peter doocy live at the white house, the next couple hours chockablock with all sorts

of activities. what are we expecting? >> we are expecting to hear the president next hour -- rather next hour, within the hour, talking about how he is going to order his economic team to find the most significant trade deficits that are out there and then tailor new tariffs to try to make things a little bit more even. no new tariffs are going to be going into effect today, and the plan is not going to be for a blanket, one-size-fits-all across all sectors tariff. some business leaders were actually climbing up about this when i asked by our colleagues t fox business on capitol hill, including jamie dimon. >> can i first get your reaction to president trump announcing reciprocal tariffs today? >> no, not talking about that. >> not talking about it for now. a source familiar is telling us the president's memo today will mention brazil as an example. they tax our ethanol at 18% peered we tax their ethanol at

2.5%. that is a huge trade deficit. the white house is calling this trump's fair and reciprocal trade plan, but democrats worry the effort to make things more fair will hurt. >> that is not some liberal democratic economist. the head of ford motor says that the tariffs will blow a huge hole, a whole in the u.s. auto industry. what he is doing on tariffs is again sort of like everything else. it is sort of a meat ax approach, a slash and burn approach. >> going off president trump's comments from yesterday we should also expect this news conference to include some kind of celebration of d.o.g.e. spending cuts, so stay tuned for that but we do think the headline will be the tariffs from this leader who has once described tariff as the most beautiful word in the dictionary, john. >> john: a lot to look forward to in the next couple of hours. peter doocy kicking us off at the white house.

sandra? >> sandra: let's bring in martha maccallum, here on our new york set, anchor and executive order of "the story." i know you have spoken with a lot of people about this, martha. there is a lot of different takes, a lot of different viewpoints as to how this is going to transpire. "the wall street journal" most recently saying the trump reciprocal tariff vow further breaks from global trading norms. well, he is breaking from a lot of norms right now. >> breaking a lot of stuff all over the place. i think whenever anyone responds to something that president trump is doing right now and says, well, this isn't the way it has been done for decades. several pieces written this morning about the aspects of the trump agenda. this isn't the way it has been done for decades. we need to get used to that. i think what we are going to see today as president trump set on that truth social post is the big one. he has talked about this all throughout the entire campaign, that trade should be reciprocal. look at india, for example prime minister modi in the

house. they are deal is that we pay -- they pay 3%, we pay 9.5% on goods from india. we have seen him brokered deals with canada and mexico. we just heard something interesting from peter doocy, who said it is not going to be a blanket, not same everywhere across the board and kind of sounded like in many ways it would be, so there is some nuance and some deal trading going on which is i think a president trump will try to offset the interest rates and inflation that we have seen creep up a little. >> sandra: that is complete fair. karoline leavitt was asked about whether tariffs will lower taxes for americans. this was a press briefing on february 5th. listen. >> is it the official position of the white house that tariffs will lower taxes for americans? >> the president has always been clear that he believes tariffs are a tax on foreign nations and he is committed to cutting taxes for the american people here at home. he also believes tariffs are a great revenue raiser for this country, and that is exact a why

he has committed to the creation of the external revenue service, which i think is a phenomenal idea. >> sandra: and larry kudlow made the case she is doing a really good job giving us the entire picture, right? so while tariffs might be -- there could be, you know, a short-term bump in prices for consumer, it is the long-term look that we have to keep in mind, and that of course is growth, so if you are rolling back regulations and lowering taxes and doing all of these things to promote growth, that this is part of the equation. >> and lowering energy prices a big part of that equation, as well, and that is exactly right, sandra, that what karoline leavitt is projecting is it is part of a big economic picture, so the presidency is different lovers that he can move and shake a little bit in order to produce a better economy in the united states. you are going to hear about that today. you are always going to have the reaction, if you look at it in isolation, if you raise tariffs, it will make things cost more here in the united states but i think this mix of policies that

you see shaking out and this being used as a lever or a cudgel, however you want to look at it, portrayed, and also to produce more goods here in the states. >> sandra: such an important aspect. i was surprised talking to austan goolsbee -- >> i watch that interview, very interesting. >> sandra: seems to agree with a lot of these, coming around on trump policies peered the president yesterday talking about reciprocal tariffs during an eo signing. here is more from the president. >> we will be signing reciprocal tariffs. the world has taken advantage of the nata states for many years. they have charged us massive tariffs that we have not charged them. i just did something on steel and aluminum, 25%, and that will go up at some point, but 25%, which will level the playing field quite a bit. i did it previously 50%. >> sandra: you know, i think that is when he gets a lot of public support for things that seem to really be shaking things up, saying they are not going to take advantage of us anymore, and when he paints the picture

like that, he seems to gin up more public support for some of these things that would otherwise look maybe a little crazy. >> absolutely. so many of these policies were put in place to sort of help other emerging economies. we are the united states and you are an emerging economy so you should get a little better of a deal and we do and i think president trump is looking around the world and saying look this just isn't the case anymore, for example with china certainly. with china. one thing we are keeping an eye on and i know you are, as well is the inflation rate we saw bump up about 3% yesterday, and the way the white house interpreted it was this was the hangover from biden policies and we are still seeing it. inflation is very sticky, as we know, it is hard to get rid of. it is easier to stem it when it is growing and that didn't happen. they didn't get put in place early enough to nip this in the bud peered we were told it was temporary, wasn't going to be around for a while, now it is sn these policies will try to offset that, as well.

>> sandra: that is why it is important for this white house to sort of set -- what are they watching to measure the impact of these policies and decisions so that people can sort of judge how they are doing over time, maybe will get more detail on that in moments. martha, we'll see you at 3:00. john? >> john: attorney general pam bondi suing sanctuary state, accusing state leaders of supporting illegal migrants over americans. alexis mcadams live for us peered why is bondi suing the state. >> hi, john peered bondi says new york is not prioritizing americans and simply not following federal law. this is a new doj with her at the home and she is going to put americans first, not migrants. >> new york has chosen to prioritize illegal aliens over american citizens. it stops. it stops today. as you know, we see it in

illinois. and new york didn't listen. so now, you are next. >> attorney general pam bondi announced that lawsuit against new york governor kathy hochul, attorney general letitia james, dmv commissioner mark schroeder, so they found out about that news hitting with the lawsuit last night. the lawsuit on the states green light law allows any new yorker who is over the age of 16 to apply for a driver's license regardless of your legal status. it also prevents immigration agencies from accessing background information on the migrants. bondi says this lawsuit is also for all of the angel families out there, those who lost their loved ones to the hands of illegal migrants, like kayla hamilton. we talked about her a lot. she was raped and murdered by a migrant in the country illegally, only 20 years old. her mom supporting this lawsuit. >> this is going to end. no other parent should suffer by

having their child murdered by somebody that shouldn't -- that shouldn't be here. >> so hard to hear all of these families' stories. attorney general tish james going to fight back as kathy hochul calls this a worthless lawsuit is planing the current laws allow federal immigration officials to get acs long as they have a judicial warrant, so today we were out here in lower manhattan, john and sandra, because border czar tom homan met with members of the city council, you can see the picture, i'm told it went well, the focus on getting terminal migrants out of new york city. back here live, the mayor of new york city just wrapping up a meeting with border czar tom homan. homan said before that meeting he was not going to get on board he should get out-of-the-way so we will see how it goes, john peered. >> john: alexis mcadams with the latest from manhattan. alexis, thank you. the administration, sandra, has got so many compelling arguments on their side with the parents, these angel parents, whose

children died so horribly, and so needlessly, unnecessarily, and yet the lawmakers on the other side just keep their heels dug in. >> sandra: and what a change this is for them, emotionally, for those families, to feel like they've got somebody in their corner fighting for them and what a change that is over just the past few months, john. >> john: you would think the lessons of november would sink in but they haven't yet, see if they eventually do. any moment, going to be a big afternoon, president trump all hold a news availability on his plan for reciprocal tariffs. we will bring that to you in its entirety just as soon as it happens. plus this. >> elon, take your musty million and musty moscow rights to the moon. you get your musty hands off of our money. >> sandra: all right, well, democrats, they appear to be doing everything they can to go after d.o.g.e.

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>> sandra: d.o.g.e. now targeting an old limestone mine in foyers pennsylvania used to process retirements for federal employees. elon musk says it is from a time warp and needs to be modernized. nate foy is there for us in foyers pennsylvania so what have you been able to learn, nate? >> well, sandra, as the trump administration tries to shrink the federal work source, processing retirements will be crucial. he replace you might not be expecting, a former limestone mine and western pennsylvania, take a live look at the entrance to it from our fox news flight team hovering over it, you see the perimeter with security, armed checkpoints, metal detectors, biometric access markers, throughout. meanwhile, 220 feet underground, take a look at this video from iron mountain, this is the working environment. iron mountain is the company

they lease the space from peered workers go through each application by hand after receiving documents from whatever federal agency a worker is retiring from so they can get their full pension. here is elon musk in the oval office earlier this week. >> tthe speed at which the mine shaft elevator can move determines how many people can retire from the federal government. when the elevator breaks down sometimes, and nobody can retire. doesn't that sound crazy? >> so d.o.g.e. posted on x, quote, 700 plus mine operators work 230 feet underground to process roughly 10,000 applications per month which are stored in manila envelopes and cardboard boxes. the office of personnel management says it processed even less than that last year. just 7,381 claims per month. the agency says "opm is

evaluating methods to enhance the efficiency of retirement application processing." the agency did receive $18 million just two months ago to modernize the process, but they haven't responded to our request asking for how that money is being spent. >> the federal retirement system is being processed deep into the ground and is not computerized. the president and elon are shining a light on the truth about our federal government. >> sandra, people at home are probably wondering how we are still doing it this way in 2025, and the answer is the government has tried multiple times throughout the years to modernize the process. we have invested tens of millions of dollars, but each time it has failed, and then during the obama administration they doubled down and actually hired more workers to make this way of doing things happen even faster, so that is where we are at right now and then musk exposed everything this week so

we will see what happens. send it back to you. >> sandra: we will indeed. nate foy f on that for us, thank you very much. >> 75,000 people accepted program, that is going to save millions of dollars for the american taxpayers and that is exactly what we wanted. >> extended by even a couple of days, waiting for the judge's decision? >> we put a deadline on it, and the deadline was reached. 75,000 people excepted the offer. >> john: a federal judge rolling the federal buyer offer can go forward and a district court says the administration can have limited access in some cases. kim strassel joins us now. so the president's fortunes in court quite changed from what they were in his first administration. you rode about that in "the wall street journal." you said in part, quote, the trump first termers did lose a shocking number of rulings. the different this time, years

analyzing what went wrong and devising plans to avoid a repeat. is this a case of lessons learned, kim? >> that's right, john. it is what the chaos coverage is missing. to listen to so much of the media and democrats, you would think that the president is just coming up with these orders on the fly as they come into his head. in fact, years and years of thought have gone into this process, the ideas that are under laying getting rid of and reforming the civil service, with a lot of really talented lawyers evaluating how best to do it. so i wasn't surprised by this ruling whatsoever. i think a lot of democrats and the media are going to be surprised, as these cases go forward, there is not a big legal leg to stand on by many of the people who have brought these suits, especially when it comes to the civil service force. >> john: president trump won

the employee buyout reinstated and the deadline has already passed, some 75,000 people took it. here's what the judge said in part, quote, the unions do not have the retired direct state but are challenging a policy that affects others, executive branch employees, this is not sufficient. second, this court lacks subject matter jurisdiction for the plaintiffs claims peered one of the unions' central arguments to the judge the other day was that this buyout would do quote irreparable harm to the unions. i mean, there is a big financial stake in it for them, you lose 75,000 dues-paying members in one fell swoop, that is going to hit you in the pocketbook. >> well, they were at least honest, john, except for that is missing the point, as the judge kind of pointed out here, this is not a question of whether or not your coffers are overflowing or not. this is a question of the size of government. that affects the employees directly. this has to do with the

statutes, and also civil service law, and those are the only things at issue in this particular courtroom. can you prove that they don't have the right or the ability to put this out? that was not something they could prove in court. >> john: democrats are absolutely losing their minds over all of this. here is a sampling of what we have heard this week. >> i just want to correct what a couple of my colleagues said. they use that word in front of donald trump's name. what they meant to say, [bleep] donald trump and elon musk. >> i don't swear in public very well, but we have to [bleep] trump. [cheers and applause] >> john: screaming f trump and cheering at it at outdoor rallies, is that a good look? does that hit home in the heartland? >> this is so bizarre to me, john, for someone who has covered politics for so long, it is not just the look and

behavior, but it is a substance matter, right? everyone understands we are not talking about government being changed in terms of most of the things that americans care about in terms of their federal government, no one is talking about getting rid of medicare or social security. really democrats are somehow thinking that americans are going to get upset, a grant was canceled for lgbtq opera overseas? or that we are shutting down office space that is unutilized, that nobody is sitting in at the moment? i mean come americans generally understand that government is vy inefficient and they are generally on board with any plans to try to fix them, which is why democrats if you go back to clinton and gore and even obama used to talk about their interest in getting rid of waste, fraud, and abuse. so this is a bizarre hill to go die on. >> john: i remember al gore smashing a $20 ashtray with a $50 hammer on david letterman's

show a long time ago. >> exactly. >> john: nobody seemed to complain about that but the democrats definitely seem to be fearmongering because there was a d.o.g.e. visit to parkersburg, west virginia, the bureau of fiscal service, part of the treasury department's payments operation. the former president and ceo of paypal to say, look, democrats need to stop fearmongering, but it's also incumbent upon the trump administration to add some clarity here. he wrote in part, quote, p or mongering by democrats is scaring people and they have a responsibly to be clear, honest, and transparent about wt danger it holds, the trump administration and musk should know people are nervous about the breakneck change that is happening, the federal government is not an unmanned rocket ship that we can blow up and learn lessons from. so it is kind of a little bit, i don't want to say it is a pox on both houses but it is a little both sides have some responsibility here, to be clear with the american people and be transparent and be fair and not fearmongering and get details. is that a good idea?

>> there is absolutely something to that. one thing that absolutely stands out about the democratic complaints is there hypothetical. they have not yet provided any evidence that anything terrible that is happening, and they shod have to be more clear. it would nonetheless help d.o.g.e. -- look, they are trying to be transparent in terms of some of the contracts they have canceled and things they already accomplished but in terms of what it's looking at, what is actual and patient is, who is working there, how it operates, i think people would definitely be reassured to have a few more details and facts about that. >> john: we certainly have not heard the last about all of this. we will likely hear more about it the next. kim, great to catch up, appreciate it. >> you, too. >> sandra: still awaiting the trump news conference. less than an hour from now rfk will be sworn in as the secretary of health and human services peered we will bring that to you when it begins. >> john: plus any moment now

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white house worked to persuade republicans to support kennedy. democrats believe the trump administration cowed some senators. >> i know some of my colleagues feel the same way privately. in fact, if the senate held a secret ballot today, i'll that mr. kennedy would never come close took becoming confirmed. and that many if not most republicans would vote against him. >> democrats opposed rfk jr. because of his positions on vaccines. they also doubted his knowledge of medicare and medicaid when asked about the programs during his confirmation hearings. >> mr. kennedy said nothing to actually disavow his prior statements. he stuck by the timeworn tactics of a conspiracy theorist. always ask for more evidence and never accept the evidence that's placed in front of you. >> form at senate minority leader mitch mcconnell was the

only g.o.p. name on kennedy peered in a misstatement, mcconnell said kennedy failed to prove he is the best possibld america's largest health agency. mcconnell has now opposed three trump nominees. kennedy, defense secretary pete hegseth and director of national intelligence tulsi gabbard. >> i think it's very unfortunate that senator mcconnell has chosen to vote against some of president trump's nominees. all of president trump's nominees will be confirmed and will be part of the team to make america great again. >> mcconnell cited his own experience with polio in his opposition to rfk jr. he says, quote, i will not condone the relitigation of proven cures. the senate has now confirmed 16 trump nominees. that's ahead of the pace eight years ago. john? >> john: still interesting to wrap your head around the idea that a kennedy will be serving in a republican administration. >> democrat come along with tulsi gabbard. >> john: chad pergram for us,

thank you. >> there are so many of you guys. >> can i just first get your reaction to president trump announcing reciprocal tariffs today? >> no, not talking about that. >> sir, are you meeting with the president today? >> sandra: any moment now president trump set to unveil his plan for reciprocal tariffs and the excitement seems to be building. so what does all this mean for you and your wallet? let's bring in charles payne, host of "making money." people are watching for what it means for them at home, reciprocal tariffs. how do you ask plane that? >> first of all, let's talk about what they are. if you look at the different tariffs we have come every country has tariffs, every country has them in place. at that moment, the ones trump raised in office the first time didn't go away, some actually increase under biden, so they exist already. but they are imbalanced. for instance, with the e.u. charges us to do business there is a lot more than we charge them, almost across the board, may be a few niches here

and there where it is vice versa. president trump says we want to have "fair trade" with our friends and allies and partners, it should be the same, reciprocal. you should not charge me exorbitant rates to do business in your country and not vice versa. and it is unfortunate had to come to this. as far as what it costs americans, you know, that's a tough one. here is the bottom line. we do not have magic money trees in our backyard peered. >> sandra: dang, still waiting for that. >> john roberts does, but other than that. you can hike the price on something at walmart, doesn't mean somebody is going to pay it. right? and here's one thing i always tell people. think about the one thing everyone says, going to be inflationary. remember -- i do. i researched it. a lot of times. it was the greatest deflationary. back in american history. prices went down precipitously, didn't go up precipitously, they crashed, they cratered. i think also we have to stop

looking at it too short-term. what we have been cowed into doing as a nation is looking at things the way wall street looks at it, every three months, quarterly earnings, it is going to hurt wall street's profits. sometimes wall street's profits after take a backseat to us as a long-term -- long-term we want to bring manufacturing back. long-term we want to bring back the security that comes with manufacturing and the jobs that come with manufacturing. that equation doesn't happen overnight. >> john: to let me ask a question bret baier asked president of over the weekend, do you believe prices will have to go up before they can come back down with the implementation of these tariffs? >> you can charge anybody what you want. no one is going to pay -- no one is going to pay something because you jacked the price up. this is the mistake people in the biden administration made, kamala harris said grocery stores are coaching people. you can charge $1 extra for something, doesn't mean i'm going to pay it, particularly if it is a nonessential.

it's almost inconsequential. >> sandra: the market will work itself out? >> who needs who most? if i am the country that is making these things, putting them on a ship, sending them over here to sell them and i don't buy them, who needs them most? who need most of that plastic junk that comes out of china the most? does china need to sell it to us or do we have to buy it? it is called discretionary, we are to have to buy it. >> sandra: when we sat down, charles, going to get you going today. we know the press is gathered so likely we will hear the president's news conference shortly. we will see what specifically he has to say and if there's any more details on his plans and how they will affect the american people. meanwhile is it shocking to you that you have somebody democrats pushing back on this idea of looking where our federal spending and taxpayer dollars are going? when you look at our federal spending today, up 40% since 2019. 2019-2023. look at these numbers. these are staggering, okay? this is the house budget committee democrats, charles. i'm going to really get you

going here. railing against all of this, calling the budget resolution a republican rip-off on the hill today. >> mr. chair, i strongly oppose the republican rip-off. in the simplest terms, this republican rip-off is going to lower taxes for elon musk and his rich friends. >> it is a republican rip-off to take your taxpayer dollars and strip you of essential programs and services. >> sandra: not once, not twice... >> i think one of the ironies of all of this is that elon musk and his wealthy friends never made more money than they did under joe biden. all those -- every time joe biden put money into the economy, he knew exactly where it was going to eventually go. send out to trillion dollars until the american people to spend it, guess who puts it in their pocket? elon musk and his friends. elon musk is saying we want the government to spend less money, that is less money for him and his friends.

when i did my last town hall special, started with a recording of all of the democratic presidents and presidential candidates over the last whatever 30-40 years. one minute all used come i'm going to go in there and get rid of waste, fraud, and abuse, well, guess what, we are doing it? that is what obama and biden promised and clinton promised, they all promised the same thing. not a great thing, -- in the election they used weird. let's stop doing it this way because it is insulting the intelligence of the american people. >> sandra: before you go, i'm going to look at the dow real quick, before announcements like this and news conferences i always kind of want to see where things are going. right now up 106 to six points so we will see how the market reacts to the words of the presidents when he speaks shortly. >> john: canada finally cracking down on the northern border, firsthand look at how they are ramping up security to

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>> john: lawmakers in both the house and senate today targeting waste, fraud, and abuse in u.s. foreign aid and the primary agency responsible for handing it out. congressman darrell issa was part of today's house affairs committee hearing and joins us now. one of your key witnesses with the former coo of usaid max primer rack who wrote in part in

a heritage.org op-ed, used to disperse tens of millions of dollars of taxpayer funded foreign aid is a troubling tale of a government agency going off the rails, ideologically, and losing both bipartisan political support in congress and the trust of the american people. after today's hearings would you agree or disagree with that assessment? >> i would completely agree although all of the witnesses argued that some of $40 million was well spent, none of them could argue that all of it was well spent, john. >> john: yeah, kind of like president trump said, you used to look at mine item spending and find waste, fraud, and abuse in two or three items, now it is the other way around. the chairman of the committee did not hold back in his criticism of usaid, listen to what he said here. >> the programs that usaid and the state department have spent

money on are indefensible. they hurt america's standing around the globe. and i think the fact is clear, that america would have been better off if your money had been simply thrown into a fireplace. >> john: based on what you said just a moment ago and what rubio said, the secretary of state couple weeks ago, there are a lot of good things that usaid does, but all of that is kind of colored and tainted by what many people see as frivolous, if not outright wasteful spending. >> it's extremely true that there are always going to be a few dollars well spent if you spent 40 million of them, but when you look at condoms to afghanistan, going into the jungle and trying to promote lgbt awareness there, the list goes on and on, that you have too much money for their own good and too able to spend a lot of it poorly.

whether it is usaid or any other foreign aid or loan programs, china's spending less and getting more peered we are spending more and we are not even getting a thank you, in many cases, from some of these countries. we need to be in a global competition to do the right thing, but in fact do it well enough that we compete successfully against adversarial nations like china that use it as a tool to export precious minerals and to take over, because i take over governments. >> john: there was an interesting moment during the hearing when a protest erupted, they were protesting the cessation of funding aids research. let's watch the exchange between the protesters and the chairman. >> restore aids funding now! restore aids funding now! >> i guess these guys don't watch the news. they didn't realize that it was one of the many programs that

did prove to be life-saving, so the funding was restored. somebody better give them a link to, i don't know, may be fox news or something like that. >> john: congressman, these people don't even realize what they are protesting. >> they are paid to protest, come in with signs preprinted peered i voted for that program under chairman henry hyde and george w. bush and colin powell, and a dramatically reduced in africa, but even that program has seen some misspending where it is not going towards aids reduction, but rather tangentially towards other programs. we need to look at every program, even when they are good, and make sure the money is well spent. >> john: all right, congressman, thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. interesting hearing today, no question about that. >> any time we are saving the american people money it is a good day. >> john: i guess that depends on which side of the aisle you are on because there is a lot of democrats screaming is the wrong thing to do peered we will see who wins out in the end.

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>> sandra: linda mcmahon standing behind the administration's call to shut down the education department. president trump's pick for education secretary telling lawmakers during her confirmation hearing today she wants to work with congress to do this right. aishah hasnie reporting on this live at capitol hill for us, so what do we know, i shall? >> hey, sandra. there is a lot of confusion today and trying to clear things up in the middle of this hearing after president trump said he wanted to basically get rid of the department of education. so linda mcmahon tried as best as she could to clarify that he can't do that and neither can she without an act of congress. of course, congress is what made the department of education and the first place.

the senate would need 60 votes, and sandra, that's a tough thing to get to. what they can certainly do immediately is pared down the department of education and reallocate funding, run that funding through other defense role departments like hhs. listen to this exchange. >> do you agree since department was created by congress it would take a act of congress to shut it down? >> president trump -- >> downsize, states still receive federal funding? >> yes. it is not the president school to defund the programs. it is only to have it operate more efficiently. >> okay, we have clarity on that now. democrats asked if she is going to spend money already appropriate by congress, she said yes to that. they also asked her about d.o.g.e. she said the agency is legally conducting an audit right now and also asked her if certain african american programs and classes would go away under

this. she said she would have to take a look. there has been a number of protests that happened during this hearing. happened about five different times. bottom line i can tell you this, that senate republicans who have the majority by and large favor confirming her, and she is expected to get confirmed just like every other trump nominee. sandra? >> sandra: aishah hasnie on the hill for us peered aishah, thank you. >> john: going on right now in the oval office, the president is holding court with the press pool. we should hear from them sometimes in oh, gosh, depends on how long these things go. sometimes they go 40 minutes, sometimes an hour or more. the president signs his order on reciprocal trade and tariffs. we will let you know what that is all about and bring you all of the action from the oval coming right up. stay with us. on medicare? living with diabetes? progress is having your coffee like you like it without an audience. ♪ [silence]

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