>> there are things out there that are unidentified and ariel and objects. i don't think they're alien spacecraft. >> what you make of the mission to mars. president trump has said hey, he is interested in heading to mars. >> i think it is really exciting. mars is the best destination for us to go to to look for life in the universe. we may have evidence of fossil or existing microbes and collected all these samples we would like to study on earth if we can get them back. i'm excited to see nasa is committed to exploring our closest neighbor that might have life. >> professor, thank you so much. have a wonderful week and to all of you who joined us this morning happy president's day. enjoy the federal holiday. join me on "outnumbered" at noon eastern time here on the couch. >> bill: good morning, life in the really fast lane.

nascar fans cheer president trump in daytona. back in d.c. he is putting the peddle to the metal. >> dana: i'm dana perino and this is "america's newsroom." how many auto nascar related puns can we get into the show? >> bill: we can work on a few. >> dana: watch for them. it was a hero's welcome yesterday. the crowd going wild for trump as he arrived at the airport ahead of the race. the president taking it all in saying his agenda is just revving up. >> president trump: our country is doing well again and we have spirit all over the world there is spirit again. we brought it back and it has been less than four weeks. you'll see what we do in a little period of time. it will only get better. >> dana: in washington doge is still zeroing in on government waste and bureaucratic bloat.

the epa secretary lee zeldin will claw back $20 billion. democrats are pushing back against doge. in a few hours a federal judge will hear a case on potentially limiting the group's access to federal data. >> bill: former assistant u.s. attorney andy mccarthy is in poll position with analysis. alexandria hoff reports on the legal tussle with musk. first jackui heinrich is in west palm beach, florida reporting today. we lead with you, hello. >> good morning, bill. the president's agenda is moving full steam ahead. several reports this morning that doge is requesting access to i.r.s. data and also making a visit to the f.a.a. come and centers this morning. sean duffy made that announcement saying they want to look at the systems.

get a sense of what the air traffic controllers like and don't like and try to modernize it. one aviation union is giving some pushback over the layoffs for several hundred probationary employees. senator tim kaine raising concerns that veterans are taking a hit. >> i view this in virginia from the perspective. there is a war on veterans. slashing in the v.a. and 30% of the federal workforce is veterans compared to two to 3% of the civilian workforce you do cuts, it hurts veterans. >> the administration showed that doge is taking a far more surgical approach than first reported. friday night 3600 proper bash nair employees were dismissed from health and human receives, 4,000 were retained including those working on emergency preparedness and science research. places like cdc and national institutes of health and indian health service and reviewers and

inspectors working at fda. working on refugees resettlement and medicaid and medicare workers. considering the function of each agency and analyzing who they need to keep. >> we don't get that under control it becomes national security. if we get downgraded can you imagine if the dollar starts losing its value the inflation rate that takes place? and then what happens? our buying power, the ability for us to invest into the country and ability for us to invest in our military starts shrinking. >> there is some consternation over doge's request to access the i.r.s. the integrated data retrieval system is very limited in who can access it. traditionally commissioners can't even get access to it. a bit of an unusual request. taxpayers who have their data wrongly accessed or even wrongly

inspected can be entitled to monetary damages. so a little bit of consternation over that. as of last night doge was still locked out, guys. >> bill: jackui heinrich in florida. dana. >> dana: the fight to cut government waste is full steam ahead not without obstacles. in a couple of hours an obama appointed u.s. judge will hear a pro poseal bar doge access to systems for 14 days. alex is here with more. >> potentially showing how pressing the circumstances are. consider the hearing is happening on a federal holiday when courts are typically closed. the judge called for today's hearing yesterday after hearing arguments on friday from democratic state attorneys general. they're asking for a temporary restraining order seeking to block access to government systems for two weeks. democratic attorney generals

across the state bringing these cases but basically -- >> democratic attorney generals across the country bringing these cases but said no, elon cannot start rifling through the data of americans. that violates their privacy. >> the hearing of federal judges have stepped in. the 14 dates were asking for is too broad. she said you are essentially asking me to shut down the government. over the weekend doge did score a separate legal win with u.s. district judge baits who denied a request to block access from records of three agencies. allowing them to access the department of labor, health and human services and consumer financial protection bureau. musk said let's go with extra emphasis. doge likely qualifies as a

federal agency and therefore has the authority to access government records. dana. >> dana: thank you. >> bill: let's bring in andy mccarthy to talk about it. the a.g. out of maryland who is a party to this suit. watch here. >> we've seen elon musk go literally into federal agencies telling them to shut down without using the proper procedures and protocol. this is a dangerous person in a very important position. we're saying to the judge we've got to stop this and as a minimum, right, access to the central payment system, the ability to go into agencies because that does have direct harm on marylanders and residents throughout the country. >> bill: he said a lot of things there. dangerous person, going to do harm to the people i govern. is he right or wrong in this case? >> he is completely wrong. i understand they are upset they lost the election but trump is

the executive branch and when i say that what i mean is as a matter of constitutional law, all of the executive power, which means all the power wielded by these executive agencies. is the president's power and the president can designate officials of the executive branch, which lon musk, whether they like it or not now is one to scrutinize records to say that the president or cabinet-level secretaries or somebody who the president designates and consults with who is a government employee can't scrutinize executive branch records is just absurd. >> dana: i do feel like the democrats, the attorney we just heard from in maryland, are reacting to their constituents, maybe their democratic party faithful saying stop them. you have to do something. i think in some ways they're filing these lawsuits even though they know they are not going to win so they can say the

court said we couldn't. >> dana, i think that's exactly right. the lawfare is on the other foot. they rationalized all these lawsuits against trump when the democrats were in power. even if the court was not the proper forum for bringing the kinds of complaints that they had about trump. they said we have to do something. that was what they did. and here they are doing it yet again. but the courts don't have any more power to run the executive branch than the congress does or anyone else does. the president runs the executive branch. and if he has designated elon musk as a special government employee, doge actually, whether they like it or not they keep calling it the so-called doge. it is a component of the executive office of the president in the white house. it is actually a refinement of something that was started under president obama. and they have the authority from the only person they need it from, the president, to do this

scrutiny. the scrutiny that needs to be done. >> bill: based on that answer i think i kind of have an idea what you'll say on this. the trump organization -- the trump administration is now taking a case to the u.s. supreme court arguing he has the authority to fire the head of an agency. this court should not allow lower courts to seize executive power by dictating to the president how long he must continue employing an agency head against his will. until now as far as we're aware, no court in american history has wielded an injunction for the president to retain an agency head. they win that one, too? >> the president should win that one and i hope he wins it across the board because there are two things going on here. one is what is his authority to do this? which should be absolute. the second thing, you notice this in all these cases across the board is well, it's only for two weeks.

well, it's only for three weeks. have the injunction in place in a little while and then we can argue about it. if they have the authority tore ten seconds to tell the president he can't fire a head of an executive agency, then they have it for as long as they decide they want to make up the time frame. so it's important to recognize that he has this power and the congress and the courts do not have the ability to obstruct him. not for 14 days or even 14 seconds. >> dana: andy, could the supreme court rule quickly on this? until you have to wait to june to find out the answer? >> i sure hope so. look, i think some of the things the president said over the weekend about his, you know, authority, you don't violate the law if you are saving the country and some of the stuff that has gone on with the justice department, i hope they haven't spooked the justices.

because if you are going to ask the justices to uphold the law, you have to act like the law is important. >> dana: andy mccarthy, thank you for helping us understand all that of getting ready for our week on a monday. >> bill: the book of andy. thank you, nice to sigh. >> dana: sean hannity is hearing directly from president trump and elon musk for an exclusive sit-down interview tomorrow. how they are fighting the legal obstacles. tune in tomorrow at fox news at 9:00 p.m. eastern. >> bill: we've seen some catastrophic flooding from kentucky into virginia. the results were some of them deadly. look at the rainfall on that screen. we're live today from the devastated region in a moment. >> dana: secretary of state ru rubio. he is arriving in saudi arabia now for talks on ending the war

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>> bill: here is the tough news weather-wise. nine people dead in kentucky and tennessee. catastrophic flooding throughout the weekend there. search and rescue efforts continue. some areas received more than seven inches of rain. jonathan serrie reports from reeves, tennessee. northeast of memphis with more on what is the situation now, jonathan. >> this is the situation right

here. i'm standing on a 2-lane road that leads into the small town of rives. water coming up to each side of the road and if you go any further in this direction you will be under water. we have a drone flying overhead. like to show you aerial views how the water surrounding many of these homes in the small town of rives. even if the home is not under water authorities are urging people to evacuate. there is no electricity and this week's low temperatures are dipping below freezing. so very dangerous to stay behind. rescue crews went door-to-door in boats over the weekend. they plan to do so again this morning helping to evacuate residents after a levy failed along the river leading to rapid onset flooding in rives. this very small town of approximately 250 residents. the chief of the fire department has worked numerous floods in

the area over the past 35 but never seen one like this one. the storm killed nine people including a 7-year-old riding in a vehicle swept off a roadway by floodwaters saturday night. governor said more than 1,000 rescues took place over the weekend. >> you look at the number of people we've already lost and the damage. this is one of the most serious weather events we've dealt with in at least a decade. we've certainly had our share. this is another significant one. >> the flooding was followed by snow in parts of kentucky with more expected in the region during the middle of the week. coming back to our live shot here on the banks of the river, local officials say the water level has gone down a few i-trending in the right direction but dangerously high. 10% of residents have stayed in

their homes but they are going back out this morning strongly encouraging them to leave. >> bill: tough stuff. jonathan, good to have you there throughout a day and we'll bring updates when we get them. touch to look at. thank you, jonathan. >> president trump: no times. it could be very soon. >> this month? >> president trump: it will be soon. they're meeting right now and that's -- this should have been done four years ago before it started. should have been done immediately after it started. as opposed to now three years later. >> dana: president trump teasing a potential meeting between him and russian president vladimir putin. both have sent representatives to saudi arabia to open talks. ukraine said it was not invited and won't accept any deal made without its input. >> does mr. trump's direct communication with vladimir

putin before speaking to you unnerve you? >> of course i want very much that ukraine is in control, not russia. i hope that we are more important, more important. i trust president trump because he is the president of the united states because your people, your people voted for him and i respect that choice. >> dana: here to weigh in is retired general jack keane. size all of this up for us. what do you think is going on right now? >> first of all, the big news last week was wednesday when president trump called putin and the reason for it is to find out if putin was really serious about negotiations. because putin for months as we've known was not interested in any negotiations because in his mind he is winning the war. so we got an answer. that answer was yes.

trump calls zelenskyy, told him that. zelenskyy has been told that he certainly will participate in these negotiations. now, the fact that they are meeting tomorrow is really about trying to confirm is putin really serious about these negotiations? he said yes to the president. but we also know that putin has some pretty unrealistic demands like one, he doesn't want to deal with zelenskyy. two, he wants to have territory under his control that he doesn't even own. and three, he wants the ukraine military to disarm. so those are not necessarily serious proposals for sure. i think senator rubio, steve witkoff want to test the water. is there something of substance? no doubt ukraine will have a seat at the negotiating table going forward if there are going to be real negotiations.

>> dana: ask about the prospect of the europeans being at the table kellogg said i think that's not going oh happen. this would be your nato members. good idea? >> yeah, i think what we're looking at is united states acting as an intermediary here. obviously ukraine is a partner and an ally and russia is not. but the two principles are ukraine and russia. you complicate it significantly by bringing in the europeans. there is still a sting remaining from the mings two detail. the europeans gave the farm away to russia and the sting is still out there. so i think the plan going forward makes a lot of sense. the european interests are certainly going to be represented in these negotiations.

they have to step up. we have to hear from them about what their proposals and ideas are here. are they really going to strengthen their military or not? i was in europe a week before last and i'll tell you, our senior military leaders believe the europeans from a defense perspective and quality of military have really got to step up and move in the right direction here. for 30 plus years they've been building social democracies, welfare states at the expense of their military. and given the threat that's out there, they've got to move in the right direction. >> dana: and then because of those -- the model, they don't have a lot of extra money to do that. that is a problem of their own making. can i ask you about this? secretary of state rubio was in tel aviv talking to netanyahu and steve witkoff helping negotiate all of this was on mornings with maria our sunday futures with maria, watch here. >> what i saw there was

alarming. it is completely devastated. this affects, by the way, phase three, the reconstruction of gaza. we'll have to get to a reconstruction. the devil will be in the details on the master plan, on how we examine everything subterranean which has been blown up. >> dana: netanyahu has signaled he is willing to move forward. your thoughts. >> well, here is where we are. 73 hostages, number not firm, still to be returned, about half of those are presumed to be dead. so 42 day cease-fire and these hostages are supposed to be out at the end of that and little more than halfway through it. it remains to be seen. phase two is under negotiations now. this is the tough part, dana. phase two means israel completely out of gaza and hamas is supposed to give up governance and disarm.

those two objectives are colliding with each other. i really see the fact that netanyahu will have to go back into gaza, hopefully the hostages are out. and make certain that hamas is no longer in charge. and destroy the remnants of what's there. that i think is still out there on the horizon. i don't believe netanyahu has given up on that and i believe president trump will support him on that. >> dana: we were showing video over the weekend of the three hostages that were released and they certainly thankfully looked in better shape than the ones from the week before. general jack keane, thank you. good to have you on a monday. >> have a wonderful week. >> bill: california still reeling from devastating fires. the state's democratic leadership is spending billions of dollars in taxpayer money on healthcare for illegals. you will not believe the price tag. border czar tom homan is here. vice president jd vance a

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services gave out $22 billion to nonprofit organizations to help out migrants over the last few years. this includes things like cash hand-outs for cars and homes and guess who is paying for this? you the taxpayer. the government watchdog group called open the books is behind this investigation. according to their findings, the office of refugee resettlement, part of hhs, distributed the billions of dollars. it is not the first time the office has faced criticism. last year an inspector general report revealed the orr couldn't track down around 32,000 unaccompanied migrant children. here is a breakdown of how much grant money was awarded with your tax dollars according to this watchdog report. in 2021, they gave out more than $2 billion. in 2023, take a look at this. that skyrocketed to more than $10 billion during a record number of migrant encounters at

the southern border and in 2024, more than $4 billion. according to the report, most of the funding went toward programs for unaccompanied migrant children. other programs, though, include matching savings for cars, homes, education, small business loans, legal help and medicaid. migrants from cuba and haiti, humanitarian afghanistan and ukraine and afghanistan and irrelevant rack and unaccompanied minors all eligible for these grants. >> we're hurting american taxpayers and again people in places like north carolina, los angeles, that have lost everything, why is -- how is it moral to ask them to pay the bill for someone who wants to come into this country illegally? that's outrageous. >> and we have reached out to the hss and orr to respond to the report and ask how the billions of your taxpayer money is justified here. we have called and emailed.

we haven't heard back this morning. >> dana: brooke, keep us posted. thank you. >> bill: you mentioned tom homan. bring him out in a moment. look at numbers now. mid february. if you look at january 20th inauguration day to february 8th, '19-day period. take that and compare to a year ago and what we found. interior ice arrest inside the country just shy of 5,000. you are well over that, double at 11,791 so far in 2025. arrests of migrants with criminal history a year ago, 4500. nearly doubled that already shy of 9,000 in 2025. arrests of suspected gang members a year ago was 200. right now 430 and standing as we speak today. tom homan, border czar, good morning to you. when do you run out of criminal illegal targets? >> well look, we've got last count we have almost 600,000

illegal aliens in the united states with a criminal conviction. i won't be happy until we eradicate every one of those. as far as tda, we have a few more hundred tda to look for and they are our priority. public safety threats remain priority. i will be happy once we eradicate them from the united states and have a bigger population to go look for. right now we're concentrating on public safety threats. the right thing to do. >> bill: a number of things and get quick answers. i have a lot to go through. axios trump's immigration arrests appear to lag biden's. one possible reason trump's arrest rate isn't matching biden publicity surrounding the tough talk on immigration fueled a dramatic dip in the number of people trying to enter the u.s. oh than the southern border. i don't know if that's true or not. how would you respond? >> i think the border patrol and ice arrests, we're talking about interior arrests, more than doubled them.

border arrests are down. we secured the border. the numbers today, bill, 229 total encounters on the southwest borders compare that to 11,000 a day under biden. i've never seen the numbers like this. 229 encounters in a 24 hour period. less total arrests the border is more secure. >> bill: the complication in florida. a sheriff from st. jon's county. this is how he explains that question about who is a criminal, who is illegal, who matches both. watch. >> we have to find people that are illegally here. most without criminal histories, most without any contacts at all. that's hard to pinpoint as well because we know there are companies out there that fake driver's lipsens that are similar to what our people would be issued in florida if they were legally here.

>> bill: you understand what he is talking about and it can be confusing. >> it makes our job more difficult and less efficient. we're drilling down on those cases and they will be apprehended. states letting illegal aliens change names so they are less able to be apprehended. we work through that and have the greatest technology available, and we'll work through the issues. they aren't off the table. we'll find them. companies that provide the fawned leant documentation will be held accountable. >> bill: san diego closed an office opened up to receive illegals. what does that tell us? >> that tells us the border is more secure than it's ever been. we'll have additional facilities to detain for removal. that's what the trump administration is doing. president trump made that promise. we're concentrating on the export program. catch and release is over. those facilities to welcome

people to the city of their choice, give them a free hotel room and three medical attention and those days are over. we detain. end catch and release and hold people to remove, not release. >> bill: i heard you talking about aoc over the weekend. do you believe she is breaking the law? >> i will leave it up to d.o.j. any member of congress wants to educate people how to evade law enforcement. you claim you are educating. what she is doing is telling people don't open your door. don't talk to ice. we talk about people in the country illegally committed a crime. public safety threat. convicted of serious crime and ordered removed by a federal judge. it is like aoc and others don't want ice to enforce the laws she enacted. let us enforce the law that you enacted. >> do you think others should go after her? you can't. >> i've asked d.o.j., where is

that line of impedement of interference. what line is telling people to hide from ice, not open the door. where do you cross that line of impedement. i ask the department of justice to give us that line. >> bill: you talked to them about this is what you are saying. >> absolutely. >> bill: we'll see where it goes. tom homan, i'm out of time. to be continued. thank you, sir. dana. >> dana: thank you, sir. democrat dean phillips warned his party president biden wasn't up for the task when he ran for re-election and now says they are getting the wrong with their attacks on president trump. he joins us live straight ahead. canadian hockey fans boo the national anthem before the game against a usa hockey team. how the american team got their revenge on the ice coming up.

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>> dana reads sports. >> dana: in a thrilling display of speed and skill william byron secures the great american race crown at the 2025 daytona 500, watch. >> off turn four and to the flag. checker is waving and william byron has won the 500. >> bill: all right. >> dana: it's the daytona 500. i was seeing if everyone was paying attention. >> bill: we are. >> dana: crashes down the side left the road open. this is his second year in a row claiming the title. before the race fans gave president trump quite a introduction, watch. [cheers and applause]

>> dana: let's bring in caroline downey and jimmy failla hopes of fox news saturday night. that's a great scene. that's a good advance work. good for the president to go. >> amen. they love him. especially down in florida, which is very -- a cop stopped me in daytona for driving without a maga hat. you can't do that down here. what he gets and similar to what he did last week with the super bowl. people want to root for the country and bring back pride. an 80s vibe going on now. >> bill: i'm thinking donald trump daytona 500, home game. >> dana: the wind is blowing out for the batter. >> bill: how about the cute little ruby red shoes on his granddaughter? >> so precious. he keeps getting these humanizing moments at these sporting events where the public looks at him wow, that's a relatable guy. wholesome. he is a grandfather. i remember this election was

what i would call the dude election, ufc, logan paul and jake paul and nascar, he has captured their hearts as well. it is important to remember that sports is a cornerstone of american culture and competitive exceptionalism. trump has made cultural inroads. >> he has to go to the hockey game thursday night in boston. i know team usa plays finland or sweden. after the canadian game he has to go to the game. >> dana: i agree. sheryl crowe will sell her tesla. this is what she said. there comes a time when you have to decide who you are willing to align with. so long, tesla. money donated to npr under threat by president musk. i'm sure they will use it wisely. >> i thought they liked electric vehicles. i'm confused by all this outrage

from the hollywood class. a perfect political arrangement. trump's popularity continues to soar. he wants to focus on doge. i did notice that they uncovered $59 million that was misallocated from fema to illegal alien housing. miss sheryl crowe might want to volunteer her house. that's the type of accountability americans like but the ivory tower does not. >> bill: see how she looks in another car. >> dana: i have young friends watching now. a moment to google sheryl crowe. she was a happening singer in 1995, 1996. great album. i give her nothing on the musical side, she is great. there is part of me that thinks she was selling the electric vehicle. owning one is exhausting. you have to work at it into first sentence of every conversation, i do own an electric vehicle.

i wish she saw the irony. elon musk hasn't changed. she has. she was doing it in support of npr being called out for being one note in terms of political bias and she is saying i'm selling this to support more political bias. that's not the free speech, free wheeling sheryl crowe we grew up with. that's why i didn't like it. >> dana: fcc commissioner, chairman carr said this back to her. i know celebrities are hesitant to weigh in on hot button issues and appreciate her making an argument not through words but actions. congress should not force taxpayers to subsidize npr. bravo. figure out a way to make a point. they don't get a ton of taxpayer dollars. the ones they do maybe they shouldn't have them anymore. >> it is true. i think the optics of this are really tricky because again, while the actor and musical artist class is objecting to what doge is doing, what elon

musk is doing, those are reuters study of 15 trump executive orders. the most popular one was downsizing the federal government. i think there is a mandate from the electorate to at least do some basic auditing of where the taxpayer dollars are going and sheryl crowe can afford to not care where her dollars were going. >> dana: she can afford a tesla without a subsidy, right? all right. great to have you. thanks for being here, guys. >> bill: chinese companies looking for ways to duck the tariffs. could a century-old trade loophole be the answer we wonder? president trump's epa administrator lee zeldin trying to claw back millions earmarked for the climate from the previous administration. can he win? michael whatley is live. >> billions of your tax dollars. we at the epa have 0 tolerance for waste and abuse and we're

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>> dana: pope francis will stay in the hospital longer battling a respiratory infection. he will miss all of his scheduled appearances today. the 88-year-old pope was also hospitalized in 2023 when he had pneumonia. it is unclear how long he will need to be in the hospital this time. we wish him well. >> bill: meanwhile the couple of chinese online retailers are looking for ways to take advantage of a little loophole in the trade agreement with the united states. for history today we look to lydia hu from fox business to fill us in on this. >> good morning. that's right. trade loophole allows for goods valued at less than $8 hundred to be shipped into the united states without a tariff. earlier this month the trump administration briefly closed that loophole with china. they hit pause on that move. the loophole does remain for

now. the "wall street journal" reports they are working to get around the expected closure of the loophole. they are moving production and supply chains outside of china to countries that will still have the loophole to take advantage of it. we reached out to the company and they did not respond to our request for comment. temu says its supply chain is -- it recruited local sellers in the united states since last year and promotes local warehouse fulfillment. theoretically to avoid tariffs. in recent years the use of the loophole has ballooned. take a look at this. number of shipments went up a lot in the last ten years and the two companies are responsible for 30% of all packages shipped to the united states every day through this loophole. if the loophole closes

economists at yale believe the average american family could see costs rise by as much as 136 per year. closing the loophole will impact small businesses who are relying on the frequent shipments from overseas for their own businesses here in the united states. but advocates for closing the loophole say it gives foreign e-commerce companies the upper hand. they are exploiting trade laws and intellectual property and consumer protection. they say something has to be done. >> bill: interesting. >> dana: i've never ordered from them and don't plan to. apparently a lot of people are. >> a lot of people are. if you wait a month for your product to be delivered. it takes a long time. you can find good deals. >> bill: they have moved to vietnam or singapore? >> that's what they are doing. moving to other countries enjoying the loophole with the united states so they can get around paying the tariffs. >> bill: interesting. see how it plays out. >> dana: thanks for being here