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together and explain to you why the only reason i'm sitting here at this seat and have this job is because i went to a hockey game in 1995. i'll explain all of that at some point to you. thanks for being here. >> i would love to hear the story. thanks for having me on. >> bill: good luck on thursday. we'll be watching for sure. won't miss it. thank you, bill. >> dana: what a great guy. before we go, a judge with a unique consequence for those caught stealing sentencing shoplifters to roll up their sleeves and wash cars for free in the store's parking lot. what do you think about that? >> good idea actually, right? get the cameras out there and get a clean car. >> dana: you hope no rain in the forecast. >> bill: in the winter you have to wash your car. >> dana: i'll see you on "the five" in a little bit. a great week, everyone. harris faulkner is up next. >> harris: we begin with a fox news alert and taking a look at
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some important numbers right now. you can see already showing how successful president trump's sweeping crackdown on illegal immigration has been and continues to be. day 28 in his presidency. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." illegal border crossings have fallen by so much one illegal immigrant shelter has shut its doors. fema gave the san diego shelter more than $20 million last year. that money went to medical screenings, food, legal support and other services for illegals. however, since trump took office, that facility has become one single new illegal immigrant. that's all they've seen. the department of homeland security's data also showing staggering results. ice arrests have soared by 137% compared to last year under biden. within the numbers we'll look
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deeper. we see major surges in the arrest number of aliens with criminal histories. fugitive illegal aliens, suspected gang members. border czar tom homan. >> we are talking about interior arrests. border arrests are down because we secured the border. almost 600,000 illegal aliens in the united states with a criminal conviction. so i won't be happy until we eradicate every one of those. we'll have additional facilities built for retain to removal. that is what trump administration is doing. promise president trump made to the american people. >> harris: let's look at texas with brooke taylor right now. >> a new report today from a watchdog group shows that the department of health and human services has spent $22 billion
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on migrants over the last few years. we are talking things like cars, homes, even help with credit scores and guess where the money is coming from? the taxpayers' pockets. open the books is the name of this government watchdog group. they doug into this. their investigation revealed the money was distributed through the office of refugee resettlement, division within hhs. the office has come under fire in the past. last year as everyone may remember an inspector general report revealed they could not track the exact whereabouts of 32,000 unaccompanied migrant children. still this latest report notes the most funding went to programs for unaccompanied migrant children. other programs including matching savings for cars and homes, small business loans, and help with credit scores. in 2021, according to the watchdog report they gave out more than $2 billion in grants. check 2023 out.
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that was more than $10 billion. the same time we saw a record number of migrant encounters at the southern border and in 2024, another $4 billion. eligible groups for these migrants include migrants from cuba and haiti, humanitarian parolees from afghanistan and ukraine. special immigrant visa holders from afghanistan and iraq and unaccompanied minors. >> it is a dollar that a family can't decide how they spend that money on their own and that's what we have to restore is shift those dollars away from wasteful programs and let families and individuals decide how they want to spend their own money. >> according to the report from open the books, the two nonprofits awarded the most funds were the international rescue committee and also the church world services. we have reached out to hhs and the orr to respond to this report and to ask them to
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justify these billions of dollars from taxpayer money as of this afternoon, we have not heard back from them, harris. >> harris: thank you very much. marc thiessen, fox news contributor, joins me. we saw that in the san diego, california shelter where it dwindled to not a single person coming to the shelter. the president is keeping his promise. talk to me about, though, the onslaught of push against him. >> what's amazing about it is that it just shows what a crisis of choice this was under joe biden. remember on the democrats told us we can't possibly secure the border unless you pass the bipartisan border bill. they didn't pass that bill. trump has got gotten a single additional authority from congress and border -- illegal border crossings are down 90% and headed to a 60 year low. it took presidential will and a
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new border czar to replace kamala harris with tom homan, who is a hero because he is enforcing the border. >> harris: the will to do it but the skill to lead through it. we had former vice president kamala in charge of the border by her boss, joe biden and it was lacking there. some democrats are working to resist the administration when it comes to illegal immigrant arrests and deportations. i don't know why you want to defend and then resist against criminals getting picked up but that's what they are doing. far left congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez hosted a webinar last week showing illegals how you go around the system. don't open your doors to the immigration customs enforcement officers and she had some more advice. take a look. >> when one of these things comes to your backyard, you can resist. and when that happens over
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millions of people is that you generate enough friction that they cannot go as fast as they want to go. make sure that you are slowing down this system. >> harris: border czar tom homan said he wants clarity from the justice department on whether aoc has crossed the line with that event. she fired back with a moment maybe he can learn to read the constitution would be a good place to start. it is a back and forth and tom homan gets the last word. >> any member of congress wants to educate people to evade law enforcement. you can claim you are educating and keep that claim. was she doing some people, don't open your door, don't talk to ice. we talk about people in the country illegally committing a crime. public safety threat. aoc and others don't want ice to enforce the laws they enacted. let us enforce the laws you enacted.
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that's what we are supposed to do. >> harris: i tell you one thing about this. if you are pressing against this there has to be time and attention taken away with 74 legal cases against this administration already with the steps they're making. america deserves to see what this president would do. you have to put some attention on some of that pushback or do you not? >> imagine if a member of congress produced a video how shoplifters can avoid getting prosecuted or arrested. it is the same thing. one of the things tom homan is wisely focusing on illegal aliens with criminal records. but every illegal alien in this country is a criminal because they crossed the border illegally, it's a crime. and aoc, her beef isn't with tom homan but with barack obama. barack obama when he came into office, he doubled the number of prosecutions for people -- for crossing the border illegally from 40,000 a year to 100,000 a year. it is something -- it is
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something people used to call the sonny bono doctrine. he was asked what is your position on illegal immigration and he said it's illegal. it's funny, because -- >> harris: it's all over youtube. >> it is so self-evident to people. >> harris: it is so obvious where the crime starts. liberal hysteria over the department of government efficiency efforts to cut waste is continuing now. here is a liberal network host mad over elon musk heading that department. he also had some interesting words for democrats. >> i just would like you to show you give a [bleep]. get emotion about the fact that people are losing their jobs indiscriminately. i would like to see somebody wake the [bleep] up and get excited that your country is under assault.
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they aren't at the gate anymore. they are in your bedrooms, living rooms, your businesses, they got your data, [bleep], they got all your stuff. elon musk has his tentacles in everything you're doing and nobody seems to give a [bleep]. i want somebody to show that they care enough to get off their fat [bleep] and say something about it. >> harris: that is so disrespectful. i can understand why people don't want to watch them. that's really, really beyond the pale. and not true. he will have to show receipts or otherwise the lawsuits can flow both ways. president trump and elon musk sat down with sean hannity and touched on the issue. >> they want you two to start hating each other and they try, president elon musk, for example. you do know they are doing that to you. >> president trump: i see it all the time. they tried it, then stopped. they have many different things of hatred. actually, elon called me and
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said you know they're trying to drive us apart. i said absolutely. they're bad at it. if they were good at it i would never be president. i think nobody in history has ever got more bad publicity than me. i could do the greatest things and get 98% bad publicity. outside of you and some very good friends it is the crassiest thing. what i have learned. people are smart. they get it. they get it. they really see what's happening. >> harris: your reaction. >> first of all, the democrats are in complete disarray because the resistance is dead. if you compare this from 2016 when they were trying to destroy donald trump. now they are just defeated. they threw everything they had at him. the mueller probe, two impeachments. 91 indictments. to assassination attempts and like the marvel super hero where they throw rockets and smoke clears and standing there unscathed. but strengthened.
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strengthened. he is in a position -- what are they doing? they are sitting there defending foreign aid. illegal immigration. not deporting people with criminal records. 80/20 issues. be on the right side. >> harris: defending foreign aid with some going to terrorist organizations. i wrote it down. it is the quote of the day to know about. dems are angry because the resistance is dead. marc thiessen said that. good to see you. thank you. trump administration has found yet a new way to get rid of government waste, fraud and abuse. how the epa now plans to claw back billions of taxpayer money that was basically literally just thrown away. plus democrats and the liberal media not having much success slowing down the trump train. yet they persist. >> the left is scared. that's what it comes down to. what has happened is president trump has deputized elon to go out and find waste, fraud and
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>> harris: it's not just doge working to save taxpayers money. now the environmental protection agency chief lee zeldin says he will claw back $20 billion from taxpayers. and give it to places where it is really needed. the biden administration has earmarked for some vague climate project. do you want your money back or do you want this?
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>> we're not talking about chump change here. we talk about billions of your tax dollars. we at the epa and inside the trump administration have 0 tolerance for waste and abuse. we're coming down hard on this. >> "new york post" editorial board. epa head lee zeldin shows us good riddance to bad giveaways. grady trimble is in washington, d.c. >> they have say the previous administration parked that roughly $20 billion in an outside financial institution with the goal of doling it out for climate-related projects. epa officials tell fox quote, this scheme was the first of its kind in agency history and it was purposefully design to obligate all of the money in a rush job with reduced oversight. for perspective $20 billion if you look at the median income in the united states is equivalent to the annual salaries of nearly half a million americans. the trump epa says the agreement
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with that bank has to be immediately terminated and all of that money must be returned. in addition to stopping the money from going to those non-government organizations, epa administrator lee zeldin is looking into how and why this happened in the first place. >> i want to know at these ngos how many were set up just before billions of dollars arrived? how many biden -- recent biden employees or epa employees left their position to go work at these places that are receiving billions or millions of dollars? >> zeldin has already canceled a $50 million grant for a group called the climate justice alliance for its pro-palestinian stance. the head of that group is lashing out at the trump administration and also kind of placing some of the blame on the biden administration saying unfortunately the biden administration failed to process these obligated funds intended to help communities facing
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disasters from climate change and left the decision in the hands of the trump administration. they go on to say despite claims this administration will protect clean water and clean air for the nation, it attacked basic neglected communities from day one. elon musk, leading doge in this effort to claw back this wasteful spending as he calls it. he is praising zeldin for doing an awesome job saving taxpayers dollars with more expected. >> harris: grady, thank you very much. jackie deangelis co-host of the big money show on fox business. we have a choice as taxpayers. you can either let the epa chief lee zeldin go after this and try to claw back some of that money or just live with it. i guess people would be happy doing that, democrats? >> i think the democrats. they want to spend money and create a chaotic situation.
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they don't want a balanced budget. at the end of the day if there is chaos they can control more and say you need us to be able to fix it. what is happening right now is a big audit of the government. i don't see what the problem is. every department has waste whether it's the epa. looking at the defense department. they want to cut jobs in the i.r.s. at the end of the day in corporate america think back to g.e. cut the bottom 10%. make your coefficient. you are looking at a balance sheet and income statement and it whats to work for shareholders. the american people are the shareholders and president trump is our ceo. that's what he is doing. once people start seeing these line items and seeing how biden spent all that money down to the coffers of the last second they'll realize their taxpayer money is not going to what they wanted. >> harris: i want to look at the department of education. announced the cancellation of more than $350 million in woke spending to education and equity organizations last week. remember that word equity, the
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part of d.e.i. i take issue with. nobody is promised an outcome. if you want to put quality replace equity. it previously shared contract and d.e.i. training grant cuts that totaled nearly a trillion dollars. just part of widespread cuts across the government agencies. some others are scrolling on your screen there. 32 million to the prague civil society center. 40 million for gender equality and women empowerment hub. 14 million for improving public procurement in serbia. you'll find things on the list that you will say it's important. you will find things not looked at. they weren't balancing their books. you can't keep your household income if you don't look at what you are spending. >> everybody the ripping on elon musk saying you were saying $2 trillion. i'll take the 1 trillion you talk about there in all of those
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things that added up and take the pennies and nickels. at the end of the day we're a nation going broke. if we don't stop it we'll be in a terrible situation. if americans feel like high inflation hit the pocketbook hard and paying too much in taxes they will only see democrats come back and say sorry, to fix it we've got to raise your taxes more. >> harris: the liberal media have repeatedly denied the existence of the massive government waste and fraud that doge is trying to rein in. democratic lawmakers are doing it, too. >> waste, fraud and abuse. i have been hearing that my entire lifetime. all we have to do is find imagineall waste, fraud and abuse. if it's so easy how come it hasn't happened in my lifetime? >> don't believe that. they are dismantling the system to delay until dead. >> what you are hearing from elon musk and donald trump and other republicans who are repeating misinformation. >> harris: you know why that one
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gentleman had not seen it in his lifetime? they don't look. but we do look and here is what we're watching, the numbers. even before president trump was elected the government accountability office reported an estimated $236 billion in so-called improper payments for fiscal year 2023. improper payment includes things like overpayment, inaccurate record keeping and fraud. depending on how bad that is as an individual the law could come after you, jackie. they estimate over the last 20 years those improper payments total nearly $3 trillion. now we're really eating into the deficit which has kept above 36 trillion today. we're watching that. a new opinion piece is arguing instead of applauding doge's efforts the media is gas lighting the public by dismissing and playing down what americans can see.
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the press is giving people more reason to distrust it. >> the pet projects are one thing. somebody can say i want to spend this money on environmental and climate change issues. we can have that discussion whether it's worth it or not. when you talk about fraud and waste in programs like medicare and medicaid and social security and then the democrats say it is the republicans trying to push granny off the cliff. the fraud and waste there that impacts the elderly and the senior citizens in our country it's shameful. so they are looking at that trying to shine a light on it and fix it. we as media have to be responsible about how we report that because these issues are so important to people and i just go back to the election and say whether it was d.e.i., fraud and waste whatever it was, people voted for president trump because they had had enough. he tried to drain the swamp once. he has to take the water out this time. get into the roots, pull the plumbing out. whatever he has to do.
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i think he knows that. >> harris: always great to have you in "focus." thank you. it is the first case in president trump's flurry of executive actions to reach the u.s. supreme court. he says he has the power to fire a top federal official. well, will the justices side with him? we'll take a look. democrats are using the courts in a very big way to go after doge, of course. >> like the lawfare is on the other foot. they rationalized all these lawsuits against trumps when democrats were in power and they're doing it yet again. the courts don't have any more power to run the executive branch than congress or anyone else does. >> harris: all right. this is a new story that is taking shape right now. obama-appointed judge is hearing a lawsuit by 14 democratic attorneys general who are suing over giving elon musk access to federal data. just exactly what jackie and i were talking about on the money side. let's get the legal side with
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you use your cell phone. >> the president is not allowed to say i want to spend this money, not that many. there are a lot of lawsuits that have been successful. >> we'll continue to work together in an all hands on deck effort to push back against the far right extremism that is being unleashed on this country with record velocity. >> the dominant objective of this administration is corruption and lawlessness. we're winning in court. more a dozen federal injunctions and temporary restraining orders have been issued. >> harris: interesting. lawlessness to balance the books and take a look where your tax dollars are going. which side of the aisle said that over and over again. not common sense. democrats are going after the
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doge now. a judge is now looking at a lawsuit filed by 14 democrat attorneys general. they want to prevent doge from accessing certain federal data. doge scored a legal win over the weekend. a judge in a different case refused to block access to data from three agencies. mike huckabee, ambassador to israel says doge is doing exactly what americans want. >> if you get 30 miles from the beltway, people are dancing in the streets and celebrating. it is finally a moment where you've got government people who are looking into how the taxpayers' money is being spent. i think people are ecstatic about it. donald trump is keeping a promise saying he was going to do it and he did it and he is doing it. >> harris: alexandria hoff is here in washington, d.c. i was just kind of doing a drill down on what this really looks like and all those numbers right
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before you came on. they will spend a fortune going after what donald trump is not slowing down doing. >> no, absolutely not. let's talk about this doge victory from this weekend. it could mean a lot. the judge denied a temporary restraining doge accessing records of the three agencies, the department of labor, department of health and human services and consumer financial protection bureau. judge bates acknowledged privacy concerns but doge likely qualifies as a federal agency and has the authority to access government records. the judge requested plaintiffs file a brief on a potential preliminary injunction by the 18th. elon musk is celebrated that temporary win posting lfg meaning let's go with extra enthusiasm. setback did comeon friday with a judge extending a temporary
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order that blocks doge from looking at the treasury department. the judge there is reviewing a revised proposal from 14 democratic states attorneys generals, on friday judge said the initial request was too broad noting you are essentially asking me to shut down the government. this hearing is happening right now and some sense we're getting inside the courtroom the judge is expressing skepticism towards the plaintiffs. this hearing is taking place today, a federal holiday when courts would usually be closed. >> i don't believe in coincidences. interesting timing. good to see you. kerri urbahn. fox news legal editor. when you hear first of all that the judge is doing this on a holiday, how much does that part even shock you? maybe not at all. >> i was surprised. the bottom line is if this issue
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ends up hitting the supreme court and agree to take it up i don't see how the supreme court can't side with the trump administration. political appoint east have to do their job and elected by the people via the president. the executive branch is the a co-equal branch and i would just say that anyone trying to stop political appointees from doing their job like an audit is usurping the democratic process and why the judge said a couple of days ago if i agree with the broad request i would be shutting down the government. i'm curious to see if she will remain consistent after this hearing today. >> harris: federal appeals court shut down president trump's request to fire the head of the office of special counsel, now the president is asking the u.s. supreme court to get involved. the emergency appeal could be the first of many legal actions to try to overturn rulings that are slowing down his second term agenda. here is andy mccarthy.
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>> in all of these cases across the board well, it's only for two weeks, well, only three weeks. we'll have the injunction in place for a little while and then we can argue about it. so it's important to recognize that he has this power and the congress and the courts do not have the ability to obstruct him not for 14 days or 14 seconds. >> harris: so what are they using this delay for? why are we in this spot? do they not have the power to say mr. president, you can't do this? that's what it looks like. >> they are upset that donald trump won the election, right? it's what i said earlier they are thwarting the democratic process. it's incremental, drip, drip, get another two weeks on the books and another one week from stopping the executive branch from exercising its functions. on the firing a lot has been made over the fact that the
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trump administration did not give the 30 days notice to congress. that's fair. it's also been talked about how the law says that this particular official can only be removed for malfeasance or neglect of duty. those things are true. what hasn't been talked about is the supreme court twice has said the president has the power to fire a single director of an executive agency. they've said it clearly. it's the president's prerogative and why i think it is an interesting issue that they are trying to get before the supreme court. as a reminder the supreme court doesn't have to take it up. it may be an opportunity for them to step in and reiterate what they've already said. yes, the president can do this. >> harris: just to be very clear, the president could do that for any reason or no reason at all. have we seen something like this in the past? is this setting precedent or has it always been that way? >> we've certainly seen this
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happen before. i think what is happening, though, is honing in on the statutory language naming three categories for removal but what's being completely ignored is what the supreme court has said. wait a second, if it's one person running an executive agency they can fire that person and again going back to -- it's ironic i reference the judge how she oversaw what would be the trial for trump here in washington and released all that information. she is no friend to trump. she said it would shut down the government. i think it is something and it is true. >> harris: all right, kerri urbahn we'll watch it all. thank you very much. good to have you in "focus." well, i don't know if you saw it, but the cheering was a thunderous welcome to president trump from nascar fans at the daytona 500 yesterday. another event highlighting his soaring popularity. democrats don't know how to
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his soaring popularity. >> i wanted to drain the swamps. i want to make sure my tax dollars aren't wasted. that sounds like donald trump today. that is why we lose to him. we've let him steal our verbiage. we have quit talking about working americans, keeping america safe. doing the things we did when i joined the party. he is scary but not scary to enough people to lose elections because he sounds like a democrat and why i joined this party. >> harris: another strategist said the party is getting crushed online messaging. the department of government efficiency started its count in november and has more than 4 million followers. the fact post account the dnc lost in january has a fifth of the follows. house minority leader hakeem jeffries has 1 million followers and musk 218 million.
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he does own the platform. x. when it comes to actual democratic leadership, jeffries would not exactly say he is the party's national leader. >> prior to being house democratic leader and continue to work together in an all hands on deck effort to push back against the far right extremism that is being unleashed on this country with record velocity. we have to fight in the courts, push back in the congress, and continue to push back in the community. democrats were doing just that. >> harris: not the leader because, drum roll, he has no ideas on how to deal with the things that people voted about in november still all these months later. a recent poll shows voters don't see democrat figures at their party leaders, significant percentages say they don't know who is leading the democrats.
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no one knows. power panel, cassie smutly, former rnc deputy communications director, meghan hayes, from the biden white house. meghan, i will come to you first. not to be redundant about this point. is it too early to have a leader for democrats coming out of the drumming you took in november? >> i think so. folks are looking for an i inspirational leader and we aren't there yet. i do think that hakeem jeffries is doing what he needs to do, leading democrats in congress. that's where he needs to be right now and need to be taking shape. >> harris: you mean the resistance. that's all he talked about. >> that's a different movement. he needs to take leadership and lead the budget negotiations, that's where he needs to be. in terms of an overarching party leader that person hasn't stepped forward yet. i don't know if the democrats
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know who that person is or identified someone in the running for that. >> to make his point they are not a leader. the only message from the democrats is a message that's is resistant to what the american people voted for. auditing of our taxpayer dollars, how they are being spent. it's interesting. reminiscent of so many reagan era democrats. the democrat party left me. when barack obama emerged as a leader, that was the end for us. so many more democrats in the country than republicans and now that flipped. we have more registered leaning republicans than democrats. it is not because republicans are saying something so radically different than what we've been sighing for 20 years. we have a better messenger and democrats have lost their way and lost their base, lost the way of the american people. they have to get that back. in the meantime, it is hard to
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beat donald trump. >> harris: do they have to get it back. they won't care what the democrats do they'll keep walking away from them if they see it in the republican party. reines priebus and lindy li says the party has completely lost its way. >> the democrats have found themselves on the wrong side of normal. they are on the wrong side of all these cultural issues. until they get that straight. i agree more with what you are saying is that populism on the left has a chance, progressivism on the left is dead. >> donors without a single exception are so angry and upset at the state of the party. they think the party is in complete shambles. >> they're so tone deaf. >> woke is their god. >> harris: woke is their god. cassie. >> literally saying the quiet
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part out loud. smart to listen to her and my friend meghan here trying to say listen, we've lost the plot as democrats. democrats have lost the common sense piece that maybe was attributed at one point in the 80s to their party. and that's what they do have to get back if they have a chance of winning elections again. republicans are getting in tune with their people. they aren't the country club party but the party of the working americans and americans first which is what we want to see. now we're the party of making your tax dollars work for you and not just work for the rich and well-connected. >> harris: how much of a cash nair tale is it, meghan. do democrats have to be careful it doesn't come across they hate americans by wanting to discount what they did in november and going forward to support a very popular president right now as he cuts government spending and does all the things that he has been saying he would do for years? >> i think the democrats have to walk a fine line here in getting
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back to the party of the working class people and meeting people where they are and being more moderate. they need to shift more moderate as we talked about before on the program. i think democrats need to be careful but also the proof will be in the pudding. great he is trying to cut government waste now and have massive tax cuts but we have to see those things take action and we have to see where they land for americans. it will be interesting to see in the mid-terms if these things take shape. >> harris: i have to tell you, if democrats are this upset and we haven't seen that stuff come to fruition with the exception of taking it to zero crossings about our southern border what will they do when the winning begins and things start to take hold and receipts are there. the department elon musk said you should cut, yeah, it actually needed to go. you have a mighty job and i'm glad you guys are here. thank you, ladies, good to see you. all right. so i do want to get back to one
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thing. can we get them back? is that possible? one of the things that we did not talk about today that i wanted to, ladies, i will bring you back quickly. this effort that's going on right now with the department of education. i was breaking down some numbers before. that is such a big deal, too, for people. they were looking ahead at low reading rates and mathematic rates. >> i think it will be interesting to see. i'm one of those people who think there is government bloat and we need to address that and how we address it. with the department of education, that is really going to impact communities and schools when special education classes are being cut or school lunches cut. i think it will be depend how they do this and how far they go and how it impacts the communities and how successful will it be seen. mid-terms will be a good representation there. >> harris: states are already doing what they can anyway. it puts more power in the hands of states and local communities
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are closer to the children trying to help than the federal government. >> that's exactly the point. again from a messaging standpoint right now you have the republicans saying we want to put kids and students first. we want to get that money as close as possible to the student in the classroom. democrats saying well, let me check with the teachers union first and if it's okay with them then we might be okay with this. so far that has been a problematic position for them as well. so when you talk about the mid-terms i think you will go with moms, dads, kids over teachers unions. >> harris: we learned the hard way during the covid pandemic that when you are checking with that union, that's a political arm that's now looking at everything through that prism and the largest union for teachers, randi weingarten. thank you for sticking with me. "outnumbered" after the break. it's more than paint. it's more than cleaning.
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