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>> happy presidents' day. this is "outnumbered." i'm emily compagno with my cohosts harris faulkner and kayleigh mcenany. also joining us today, kennedy, host of the "kennedy saves the world" podcast, and paul mauro, fox news contributor, attorney, retired nypd inspector, and founder of opsdesk.org . we begin with president trump attending nascar's biggest day of the year with daytona 500. the president took to the racetrack to just shake hands with a number of united states service members. also joined by a special and sweet guest: his granddaughter, carolina. she held her grandfather's hand. nearly 100,000 at americas -- moments later, they hopped in the beast for the ceremonial laps around the track. the president took to the radio to speak directly with nascar

drivers. >> this is your favorite president. i'm a really big fan of you that do this. i just want you to be safe. you are talented people, good people, great americans. have a good day. have a lot of fun, and i'll see you later. >> trump got a hero's welcome during the national anthem. >> ♪ -- yet wave ♪ ♪ or the land of the free ♪ ♪ [cheers and applause] and the home of the brave ♪ -- ♪ ♪ and the home of the brave ♪ [cheers and applause] >> oh man. kennedy, i watched it life. it was all america all day. encore fighter jets. it was amazing to see president trump attending america's race. he is one of the people.

>> it is america's race. last year, i went to an american flag bodysuit and was high high-fived. people of this country. we were in the middle of a contentious presidential election last year. we did know the outcome, but this year, the relief, the joy, the applause. i contrasted out in my brain. of joe biden had stayed in the race, and joe biden had won, if he had won -- the chances of let's go branded would have erupted. a guy holding a let's go brandon flag, a big one. this is their president. this was his moment. he got by far the biggest applause of the day. they showed him on the big-screen -- it's only right that a sitting president meets the people who love this country, love motorsports. it's a fantastic marriage. it was well executed. >> and during the first administration, it was historical and a phenomenal

moment in time. shocked that a lot of people felt permeated. talk to us about what this is like the second time around that's president for america's race. >> the only president who has done this twice is the only president to go to a super bowl. it is something to behold. embraced -- in president trump. humus lost his life at his florida golf course. thanks to the heroic work of secret service, he did not. i bring that up because there is a temptation to sequester in the oval office. he's not doing that. he is also not up for reelection. what his motive? he does need to win another election. he's bringing back the american spirit. i think about one year ago. this was the associated press

headline. "trump's new hush money case will start march 21st in his first criminal trial." this man was undergoing criminal trials one year ago today just about to the dates. today, 53% approval on cbs. daytona loves president trump, but nationwide, he's breached majority in almost every single poll i have seen. >> this is the event that transcends politics. this is about that symbolism, that beauty. everyone feels the patriotism. speak of the president, so popular in the polls, and could ignite a crowd. nbc -- after 20 years of "celebrity apprentice."

they can't counter program to him. they are unifying. no matter how you vote, there's always politics in their somewhere. if you are a democrat, you are worried. he is popular. he's moving and grooving very quickly, and he is out. he is willing to go places where the other guy didn't go, joe biden. other presidents haven't gone to super bowls. so on and so forth. i think this is a real moment for the republican party. >> the president cares about people. with their granddaughter, just like all the racers are there. they are in one big group with their spouses, their kids. it is such a family event, as well as for america. president trump really leaned into that.

tamia jones yes, he is the president, but he is one of us. separate in and out from afar. he was as thick in it -- looks like a spectacle but not something i grew up on. i appreciate the theater of it, and so does he. donald trump is trying to make some really basic and fundamental changes to this nation and our federal apparatus. he is finding the deep state, administrative state, whatever you want to call it. he is also finding the p.r. firm, which is the legacy media. he's got to go around that to get his message directed to the american people. right now, his greatest weapon is the fact that "i don't need you, the people, who voted for me because what's. the positive ratings gives him the high ground to make the changes he needs to make. they are profound. the more he does this kind of stuff -- paying for the arena.

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>> president trump's environmental protection agency is vowing to pull back $20 billion of your money, taxpayer money, that was designated for climate projects by president biden. those grants were one of biden's final acts in office, but epa administrator says it was "a rush job to avoid congressional oversight." fox business' grady trimble live with more. >> the previous administration, parked about $20 billion in an outside financial institution, with a goal of doubling that money out to organizations. the epa administrator says the agreement with that bank must be immediately terminated, and all that money must be returned. >> we are not talking chump change: we are talking about billions of your tax dollars. we at the epa and inside the trump administration have zero tolerance for waste and abuse. we are coming down hard on this.

>> there is more. already cut -- and based on their pro-palestinian stains. the head of the organization is blaming the biden administration for not processing that money and is lashing out at the trump administration. despite claims that they will -- clean water and clean air. it hesitate so mike has attacked basic protections for neglected community's from day one. that's what they are saying. here's what the rnc chair michael whatley is saying. >> the people screaming the most are the people affected by these cuts. these are all people who have been entitled to this money. they have been receiving this money. the fact is that the taxpayers, the voters of america have said no more. >> to put things into perspective, that $20 billion we talked about at the top. if you look at the median income in the united states, $20 billion is equivalent to the

annual salaries of nearly half a million americans. it is not chump change. it's a lot of money, a lot of salaries going to the government. >> a way to look at it, in terms of salaries. thank you. paul, it's interesting. this money is shoved into eight entities that dole this out. it feels like a shell game: you put it here and they are coming to see where accountability -- >> the beneficiaries of all of this are always people who are right in line with their fellow travelers. going to plug the sub stack, obsessive.org. just did a big deep dive on one of the entities involved. everybody running the thing is obama adjacent. his hand is still in this thing. they've got $15 billion from what i can ascertain. climate united. all of it. they have $500,000 a year ago.

in a year's time, biden administration managed to get them $15 billion with eight -- b. think about what you could do, paying teachers that teach real writing, real math. he caucuses and nurses fired? et cetera. instead of going to some climate fund, here's what i would like to see. let's advance the story pick a grand jury. not every grand jury has to be criminal. what's to a grand jury to issue a report. that way, grand jury minutes are not secret. put it out like the 9/11 report. pilates people. i want to see them push it to the public. donald trump as we said -- retain the high ground. >> still a ton of reporting about the biden administration shoving this out the door on their way out, showing it's dark corners. i think there should be a rule, maybe legislation, that when you are in the way out the door, maybe you press pause on the spending. >> set the bar.

you're starting to see them -- some of those always. you see the head of fema called back the $59 million or more they had just given new york. not so sure that it should have been doled out. now we are starting to see what does it look like if they are able to push stuff out on the way out the door through contracts or whatever. what does it look like for a president promising people he will -- that back? apparently, it looks like he will be successful in many cases, and that's a good thing. the other thing i would say, jim justice, the senior senator in the great state of west virginia, told me last week that if you look at all this, there is an opportunity for each state to come behind the doge cuts. he knows that some people may lose their jobs, and -- and i was her moment to shine. he wants to create more jobs and energy, because he can. under biden, he couldn't. under them -- pushing ahead. is be some transition.

we will need all hands on deck. he said for his state, he's looking forward to what doge is doing because it will get west virginia back to what really makes them money. >> and we know that fracking is a big part of it in the corner of the country. emily, one of the loudest reporters in the breaking room -- i want to play this from him. i'm sure he loved reporting on the great successes of the trump administration. there is one point on climate i want you to listen to. >> donald trump favorability rating is higher than it ever was the first time around. let me ask you. recent poll by marquette looked at the things he has done or says he is going to do. 63% favor the federal government's recognition of only two sexes, 60% in favor of deporting immigrants who enter the united states illegally. 60% in favor of expanding oil or gas production.

59% favored declaring an emergency of the southern border. is there anything you are seeing that trump is doing that you are in favor of that you think is the right thing? >> let me say as it relates to all of those issues, we are just at the beginning. >> 60%. the climate initiatives. >> i also feel like that divulges how absent the democrat party, the elected officials of the democrat party are with the actual voters and americans. they are just at the beginning while americans have been here for quite some time, being quite loud about wanting jobs, drilling, things that make the economy thrive. with that clip, i want to point out the shaping of the narrative. we will call that how the ap phrase to this. they said biden issued $20 million in green grants. -- $20 billion in green tonic green

grants and the trump administration once about. the administrator says it was a rush job. we know the use or lose rush that happens forever government fiscal year. the reality is that there is a rush, a lot of actions here that are obfuscated one under the headline it was delegated or wasn't. there was not a grand, thoughtful process. it was shoving a big amount of your money into a hiding hole and then waiting for that to go out. we will learn what recipients are. the next point i wanted to make, which i just lost was -- oh, this. no, i lost it again. >> it's presidents' day. you are allowed to. >> what was i going to say? it was important at the time. it will come back to me. >> kennedy. >> i will cede my time whenever it comes back. [laughter] i also believe in this thrust

of -- down the federal government. one administration, one department at a time. i would like to see more apartments go in and doge themselves before the larger operation comes in. i think there are a lot of very suspect branches that need to be pruned -- there are a few examples here. what a return on investment for my tax dollars. had so much taken away. and people go "this is with the federal government is spending my money on? you've got to be kidding me." just $20 billion at the epa. $1 trillion in wasteful spending. i think we'll get there sooner than anyone could have imagined. i think there's so much waste here, and to your point, when

you're talking but some of those, the more times you shift the money, the less transparency there is. that's the point of the entire operation, is to get it, say you are doing something that's meaningful and beneficial, and get at the hell out of there so it can be laundered a few more times, so no one really knows where the money is going. we just know there are administrators in these who are making very tidy -- >> that is swampy. >> i love what you said, to doge themselves. you made doge a verb. >> noun and a verb. >> part of the year, doge yourself. new cars, hopes, college educations. the new report reveals the shocking and on taxpayer dollars, spent by biden's hhs on illegal immigrants candles. if you're living with dry amd, you may be at risk for developing geographic atrophy, or ga. ga can be unpredictable—and progress

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>> a new watchdog report claims president biden's department of health and human services handed out billions of dollars to help illegal immigrants and others who work here, migrants, buying homes, new cars, and a college education. live for us in dallas, texas, brooke taylor. brooke. >> hi, harris. according to this report, $22 billion was used over the last few years to help migrants with things like homes, cars, education, small business loans of up to $15,000, even loans to help with credit scores. all of this is taxpayer money. a watchdog group called open the books is behind this investigation. according to their findings, the office of refugee resettlement, which is part of hhs, distributed the billions of dollars. it's not the first time the

office has faced criticism. last year, and inspector general report revealed the o -- oh rr cannot track down approximately 32,000 migrant children. here's a breakdown of how much grant money was awarded with your tax dollars according to this report. in 2021, they gave up more than $2 billion. in 2023, that skyrocketed to more than $10 billion. that's during the same time period we saw a record number of migrants encounters at the southern border. in 2024, more than $4 billion. according to the report, most of the funding went to programs for other migrant children. other programs include matching savings for cars, homes, education, small business loans, legal help, migrants from cuba and haiti, parleys from afghanistan and ukraine, special immigrant visa holders from afghanistan and iraq, and unaccompanied minors, all

eligible for these grants. >> we are hurting american taxpayers. people in north carolina, los angeles, that have lost everything. how is it -- to ask them to pay the bill for someone who wants to come to this country illegally? that's outrageous. >> we have reached out to hhs and -- orr. we want them to respond and we have questions about how this money was spent. we still have not heard back, harris. >> brooke, thank you. kennedy, you and i were both reacting. why would you spend money to help people who are here illegally? this is from a viewer who reached out to me. she is in cape coral, florida. she says "harris, could the government give all the taxpayers a refund for -- the place is that it never should have gone?" >> that's the next natural step, when you're finding all this money, taking it back, cutting

off future streams of funding. give that back to the american people. then, you will see the economy absolutely exploded. people will once again be able to take out new loans and start new businesses. all the wonderful things that follow when they have more of their own money. i am personally really upset with this. i know people in los angeles, altadena, pacific palisades, who lost their homes, many of whom didn't have insurance because the insurance companies were basically forced out of the state. they were either uninsured or underinsured, fighting with the state, the county, the epa. i'm sure -- we'll make that better. they see these hundreds of billions of dollars are going to people to get car loans and start their businesses who broke the law and came here -- and they don't have a shot of rebuilding their lives? it is unjust. its criminal.

>> the democrats have moved the line on what illegal looks like at the border, and trump is putting back the legality of the border, saying if you come between checkpoints, if you know you are evading our detection systems, doing everything you can to get us from knowing who you are when you get here or that you are here, you clearly have crossed illegally. this is not hard to figure it out. figuring out whether we are spending money on those people here, that shouldn't be hard either. >> open the box has done a phenomenal job for years on calling to our attention the waste, fraud, and abuse. that's how we know $3 trillion in overpayments or improper payments have been made at the expense of our tax dollars with federal agencies over the last ten years. that's how we knew that found she was the highest-paid government employee forever. here, this is par for the course. we talk about the priorities reflective of americans values and what we think our tax dollars are going to. why is there not a greater support by democrats to ensure that it's in line with those parties? why can't it reflect, proportionately, those polls

that you read earlier? we talked about that at the core as they painted the g.o.p. of calling back, for example, grants and those things. remember all of the arguments, the calls to divest all of the taxpayer dollars from public pension funds that went to the gun companies, for example. they had a major issue with it not aligning with the values, so why here doesn't fall on such deaf ears when there are so many millions of americans, many of them veterans and underserved communities, that need that money so much more than people who aren't here legally? >> i go back quickly to a kennedy said: it's because the money has shifted so many times you can't tell what the original purposes were. perley, they have mission creek when it comes to spending our tax dollars. >> classic money laundering, and hiding in -- >> you would know. >> yeah, i'm telling you. it is such a dash of american citizenship. the american people are starting to feel like the wife who finds

out that the husband to spending all of his money on the mistress. >> and cheating on her, right. >> all of his money is not going to us. this person said essentially that you can't have open borders and universal -- you can't do them. at the same time that we have been doing all of this, you are importing millions of unskilled labor. americas the place to be, i get that pick if i was from one of these countries, i would be coming to america as well. the problem is that our economy, our nation, the world is changing. we essentially don't need 20 million more unskilled workers. the world is becoming mechanized. robotics, ai. we are importing people. we are not going to be able to import. all along, the entire thing has not been shepherded by controlling mind. the mind we needed was the executive. we always they didn't have one, but we are -- >> that's a big point. when you look at the technological, and next to have

quantum computers coming. it's mind-boggling bringing unskilled workers into the fold. they will be on the dole for the rest of their lives if they stay. >> no doubt. i looked at where some of this money went with ngos. one of the items that stuck out to me, and it was to repair the credit history of some of these migrants. repair the credit history. do you realize 45% of americans carry credit card debt? to realize bank rate came out three days ago if a survey that found one-third of americans have more and credit card debt than they have an emergency savings? half the country, and credit card debt, and then you learn the money which migrant credit, history -- to your point, the homeless veteran, the single mom out there, the victim of illegal immigrant crime. this is so insulting on so many levels, but let's repair the credit history of migrants. were the cause on your dime. >> we have breaking news. this would appear to be another

legal victory for the president. the person he is tasked with the department of government efficiency, doge, elon musk. a federal judge has declined to issue an order halting elon musk and doge from accessing federal data and slashing personal. attorneys general from 14 states are attempting to stop musk and doge from accessing data, seven federal agencies from firing or putting on leave in those agencies. the u.s. district court judge -- just refused to issue a ruling from the bench, so at that point, she has not halted musk and doge from continuing their actions inside the seven agencies. quickly, because of your legal background. what are you thinking? >> two of the supreme court justices have subtly indicated they would like to strike down the prevailing rule. it's not statutory. those two koby thomas and

cavanaugh -- kelly post 2 being thomas and cavanaugh. they could issue a ruling that holds for the entire country. it's not what the founding fathers expected. it has been gamed. the right can do it too, so the left shouldn't be too quick to oppose that. get a good case with good facts. something involving usaid. give it up to scotus, get rid of this so we can move the executive forward. it gets gummed up by one venue they forum shop for. >> brilliant analysis. thank you for that. more "outnumbered" in a moment. i hear it all the time. people tell me they'd love to buy gold. but because it's gold, they think it must be complicated. it isn't. not with rosland capital. with rosland... the entire process from start to finish is built on one concept. one... keep...it...simple. rosland capital a trusted leader in helping people acquire precious metals. gold bullion, lady liberty gold and silver proofs,

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were asking for was a bit too broad. she said it would functionally drive the workings of the government to a halt. she did say to them "come to me with a revised order request by 5:00 p.m.," and she may make an additional ruling. temporary win for the trump administration. has a minute to minute news plays out on this federal holiday. over to this. msnbc host is going scorched earth on the democratic party, claiming they aren't doing enough to denounce elon musk and doge. here's host michael steele over the weekend. >> i would like you to show that you give a [bleep], that you have a motion about the fact that people are losing their jobs indiscriminately, that this individual sitting down in 1600 -- has given absolute power to one man who brings his son into the oval office, whose son says to him "you're not the

president." i would like to see somebody wake the hell up and get excited about the fact that your country is under assault. they are not at the gate anymore. they are in your bedrooms. they are in your living rooms. they are in your businesses. they've got your data, [bleep]. they've got all your stuff. elon musk has his tentacles and everything you're doing. not just off of x. now, he's in the treasury department, the labor department, the department of homeland security. nobody seems to give a [bleep]. that is all i want some buddy to show that they care enough to get off their fat [bleep] and say something about it. >> wall will. an extra shot of espresso in his coffee. kennedy, doge is in my bedroom. that's news to me. i looked around my bedroom last night, i didn't see doge. [laughter] he looks like digital underground -- he looks like humpty hump.

>> he should be doing that dance all the way off of that msnbc set. the turncoat used to be the head of the rnc. now, he has become this rabid progressive. what's next? is he going to go full commie and move to siberia? i hope so. this claptrap has no place in discussion. if democrats were smart, they would get on board and say "what can we cut to make government better on our terms?" but they are not. >> he also said -- also said "elon musk's president," but he is not: president trump is. 1962, congress passed the role of special government employee. at the role of an expert who can come into government, legally passed by congress. it sounds elon musk. >> the president said in the early '50s when we were in the cold war with the soviets, the space and arms race, we used geniuses like kelly johnson to design this. we have a history of the government recognizing in the private sector that inventors

and geniuses, brilliant minds that aren't conformed conforms to the structure of bureaucracy of that government, they ask, we need them. back then, it was synergy, now it's considered sin. i don't understand, as he says "wake the hell" up to democrats about the assault on -- to me the greater assault is that latent slumber, the upload of government that has -- everyone to sleep. just because people don't like things are way they are that's how we have to keep going. we have exploited paying the salaries of these government employees, watching that waste, fraud, and abuse as if nothing is happening for decades. >> maybe the dnc can draft the brilliant mind of michael steele to come up with the talking points. >> maybe not. [laughter] he is ranting and raving about the fact that nobody voted for elon musk. i don't remember anybody voting for hunter biden, and he was meeting with some of the top officials of the chinese government. there is very much a sliding scale. look, this does not convince, okay? clearly, these are the rantings -- people have nowhere to go.

donald trump, i'm stealing a line from greg gutfeld -- donald trump has grabbed the common sense caucus. americans looking at he felt like what he's doing and going "that makes sense. we should've done that a long time ago." others how to oppose it. you have nowhere to go. you get louder. we had a saying at the nypd: empty garbage cans make the most noise. >> harris, expecting a big approval rating for doge. it was 49-44, i think that will take up. >> we were talking on air in reaction to the win with the law that could be challenged still by the end of the day having to do with doge and how much access they get with it. what's interesting to me it is now time for trump and musk to go on the offense. what you're saying is go out and find one of those areas, start to really show some receipts so you can -- come out of the woodwork's, find the case. democrats, judges, whatever,

because it's time for that. then, you will see some numbers that will come out for people to say "those are the droids we are looking for. i want --" i want to quote this person from last hour. "the resistance is dead." >> offense only. those are the marching orders. more out "outnumbered" in a moment.

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>> u.s. officials will hold talks in saudi arabia. can there be an end to the war in ukraine, and what does ukraine have to say about it? doge with its eye on the irs. we will -- will they get access to the files they want or what courts get in the way? jonathan turley. pressure on eric adams to resign after the doj put charges against him. and, illegal border crossings down by 98%. how can president trump accomplish what joe biden said it would an act of congress? we will talk to the head of the border patrol. i'm john roberts. joined sandra and me top of the hour for "aymeric laporte" in just over 9 minutes. >> -- president joe biden's first time celebrating president day as a president except for the time when -- and according to a recent gallup poll mike, biden has the lowest favorability rating of all living presidents.

39%. meanwhile, barack obama led the way with 59%, george w. bush followed 52%, and bill clinton and donald trump's first term are both tied at 48%. week will see where president trump plans after his second term. we are watching all of it. >> production, i think donald trump will lead barack obama. i am not surprised biden is at the bottom. domestically, he is known for my conflation. 9.1%, and -- the loss of afghanistan, the war in ukraine, the war in israel. well done, biden. >> and pardons that made no sense, emily. like reaching into the future to protect family and friends and all the rest. we'll be remembered for that too. >> a slap in the face of the end like his entire administration. the most telling thing -- of course, he is dead last, but also by how much? a significant portion, over a quarter when you look at those percentages as applied to those other guys. he is not just at last: he's

dead last by a lot. >> you used a term last segment dealing with something else, but it makes me think of it now: latent slumber. that is describing the last few months of this presidency. >> he's underwater, which worries me. i never saw him in the ocean when he was at the beach. i am worried we may need to throw him a lifeline. normally, a one-term president who's no longer in office, a gentle but of a certain age, would get a little bit of a bump once he's out of office, but no: his ratings have continued to go down as people feel the effects of his presidency. hopefully, they will field a boosts. >> here's my question: did they include jill biden? they should. speak of the real former president. >> taking the high ground. they are all presidents. we have a presidents' day for a reason. absence makes the heart grow fonder. i just have to point out the fact that when he was in office, george w. bush got almost as

much grief as donald trump does. that was the first time i saw that level of vitriol. i was stunned by it. i work with people who said things about our president -- i was amazed because i had never heard anything like that about a sitting president. now "he puts a plastic bag on his head when it's raining," and all that. all of a sudden, now he's warm and cuddly. they hated his guts. we should remember that. a lot of this stuff is -- >> i think it was 1879 that it was called george washington day for his birthday, and then in 1971, it became presidents' day. here we are talking about presidents right now. i don't remember the plastic bag. >> it was raining at the inauguration picked up at the bag on him. how cute, how folksy. we got to remember at the time, dealing with a rock and every thing else, they couldn't stand him. at the end of the day, our school kids need these things. you have got to grow up thinking this is an institution that matters, these are people look to looked up to, so it's import we have presidents' day.

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>> this presidents' day, we honor the four-legged officers who serve and protect our commanders in chief. in the last week, we have lost three working canine. tabatha, duke, and the most decorated working canine in u.s. history, hurricane. secret service canine hurricane fulfilled his mission to protect the president of the united states, taking down a

violent white house intruder while the first family was home in 2014. after being medically retired due to his injuries, his handler, marshall, launched the charity canine hurricane's heroes, to ensure no other handles would have to shoulder veterinary care costs. they raised almost $1 million with every cent going toward the care for the retired heroes. onto these two gorgeous dobermans. canine duke was a decorated narcotics detection officer with -- and the most beloved canine ambassador known throughout the country. canine tabitha was an explosive detections officer whose stellar career included working with the fbi, state department, nypd and more with multiple vip world leader details. if they look familiar, they start in this movie, and tabitha was in commercials and print ads like tiffany. their end of watch is not the end of their credible legacies. we thank them for keeping america safe