as we mentioned so obviously this was a significant event for the individual and we hope they will be okay. but just the image and i imagine we will see them in the world we'll be have cell phone video of everything of all of these people hanging upside down in their seat belts i mean i am mentioned by the time we see your show tonight you will have someone on the phone from this event may be but we will leave it there for now. i look forward to your show tonight and thank you for joining me. tracy gallagher one of the good experts in aviation. a pilot himself and has covered these stories for decades. busy afternoon that's the story for this monday for berries 17th and the story goes on we will have continuing breaking coverage from this >> will: live from the

heartland, this is "the will cain show." we go right to toronto, canada, where a delta airlines plane that departed from minneapolis crest while landing. eric shawn -- standing by with what we know right now. >> tremendously shocking site. a crash at toronto's airport, ending belly up. thankfully, no deaths have been reported, but about eight passengers have been injured. the "toronto star" sadly reporting that a pediatric patient, a baby, has been transported to the hospital. sitting on a parent's lap. their babies, their toddlers on the lap. they don't always get a car seat. perhaps that is what happened when the plane happened.

flight 4819 took off for minneapolis about after 12:40 a.m., landed about 2:13 a.m., flipped on its back. the flight is operated by delta connection airline endeavor. the plane apparently attempted to land, perhaps the wing -- the wind gusts at the time, to 13 this afternoon, 40 miles per hour. that's why it snapped off when it hit the ground. the canadian authorities. this black box will be analyzed for the measurement of airspeed, pitch, angle of attack, the measurements. you have the cockpit recordings of the pilots talking to each

other. gusty wind conditions, reports, at the time from other pilots. will, i have to say, it's a miracle in toronto at this hour, just seeing this -- broken off, the jet fuel did not consume the fuchsia launch -- fuselage, and all of the people were on it, a bloom of death. 80 people accounted for, sadly, our prayers for the pediatric patient, the baby that has been transported to the hospital. the latest news conference from authorities and anything else that they know about.

flipped over when the may have -- part of the runway. >> it appears to be right now, as we watch these images on the screen, a miracle to think something like that could land on its back belly up. so far, everyone survives. to your point, thoughts are with the baby who -- reports and critical conditions. do you know the extent of the other injuries that were involved in this incident to? >> various injuries besides the critical one, moderate to mild. that is thankfully an indication of people had their seat belts on. you have got to listen to the captain, flight attendants. when you are about to land -- it's why it's so important to stay stationary and ready for when you land. >> any sense how far the fuselage would have skated along

the runway either upside down or rotating? is it still on the runway? did it hit an embankment? >> it appears to be still on the runway. we don't know if it landed short or long on the runway, or if that wing, perhaps, to obstruct the runway. shock and jolt for this to happen. upside down, and we expect to hear more from that as the news conference is held by officials, as well as hearing from the passengers themselves. >> and we have live pictures up while you were telling us the story. you can see what looks to be fire extinguishers, fire suppressors being sprayed over the belly of that airplane. do you know how long it took to get everyone off the plane, to get it evacuated? >> we don't have any of that information at the moment. you can see they are still spraying that fire suppression,

as you said, on a at. we have more information coming in. besides the child that was taken to the hospital for sick children in toronto, critical condition. another patient in his 60s has been transported, also, i am sad to say in critical conditions with critical injuries. a female patient in her 40s has critical injuries. an update on the injury toll. we have three people in critical condition from this crash. of a become a man in his 60s, a woman in her 40s now in the hospital. a critical condition. you still have 80 of the people who are basically able to walk out of this crash. >> you see the images on your screen are video them putting out fires, spraying fire suppressant on the top of that play in the fuselage. you do a great job of bringing us information.

thank you so much. i want to bring in someone who a lot of experiences. former nasa crash investigator. thanks for joining us. had some time to take in these images about the reports of what this plane may or may not have encountered. including -- suggested perhaps some crosswinds that might have pushed a wing onto the runway breaking it off perhaps starting the rotation. with the information being able to be taken so far, what can you take away? >> the fuselage -- to be compromised. the wing boeing aircraft -- and the other good thing is -- and the firing goes away.

tax, and other than the initial hit and the forces. a higher probability for a good -- within or pass the cabin. >> what does that tell you about the impact. just within the last hour, there were reports about the rates of dissent. appears to be some descending quickly but at a low speed of. with that information, and we are going to have to confirm everything, but with that information and seeing how intact the plane is, what does it tell you about this landing? >> this is so fast, i did not have a chance to check the weather. it looks like there's snow on the runway. i don't know if they're done like that could've a factor. may not landing gears or both. if you did one you would have to

drag on one side of the airplane, and then it would -- that side of the runway. that's where you can share a gear or have a wing departs from the airway for get stuck in the dirt. that moment, and then the airplane, the wing wall shear off, the runway, the fuselage will go down the runway and decelerates. it looks like everything, a bad situation happen. a good thing happen from a bad situation. >> outside of the movies where we have seen things land upside down, intact on its roof -- and as you point out, still monitoring things with critical condition. if not just short of a miracle, in the way that everyone survived it.

>> if you depart the runway, paid of service. preventing from rolling over. if that is shared, you have the cylinder. the really good thing is the structural integrity of the fuselage stayed intact. >> ken christiansen, thank you for shedding your expertise on this breaking situation. appreciate it. we will be monitoring later in the show congressman byron donalds -- will keep you up-to-date. more from "the will cain show"

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willing to deploy troops to ukraine to help broker a peace deal. the question today is what does a realistic approach to ending this war look like for everyone? you can help answer that -- a pentagon official retired u.s. navy captain. and bill rodeo, senior fellow at the foundation for defense and democracy, and a u.s. army veteran. appreciate you both being here for this discussion. i will start with you, bill. the characterization of the peace negotiations so far between united states and russia, to the extent that they have a gun, wherein there has been some involvement at least publicly that the ukraine woman -- that the ukraine will not be invited into nato, and russia will have to -- some planes aren ukraine, and many says appeasement, weakness. what you say to those who look at the starting point of negotiations and say you have already given into putin? >> well first of all, president trump did indicate

today that vladimir zelinski -- vladimir's own ski will be participating in the talk -- volodymyr zelenskyy will be participating in the talks in some way. for those saying that giving interest of today would be appeasement, the talks should've been done years ago. it was always a mistake to think the ukrainians could have the upper hand. no amount of weapons that we were going to pump into ukraine was going to cause the ukrainians to defeat the russians and drive them out of the country. that was a fantasy from the beginning their own hardware -- going to have to be made. and only giving into putin. if you think you're going to lose ground today, wait until

next month. ukrainians are outmatched, and manpower, resources that the russians have committed to this war, and clearly, they can sustain this war. >> it seems like a realist point of view. i would ask in response, is the goal too, and i will go to my other guest on this. is the goal to win all-out war? if not accepting this -- in the u.k., to bring in troops if necessary to win this if necessary. >> thanks. the bigger picture here is the u.s. having to deter an increasingly aggressive china. looking at this wider context, i think getting this sport to end

and stop the killing is a u.s. priority so we can refocus and restock our armory for deterring china, and heaven forbid if we have to come up 2027 is an often quoted year of maximum danger. go toe-to-toe with the chinese, that we are not ready for. there is a bigger picture, a bigger fight we need to deter. having the europeans come together and continuing to be seemingly willing to grow their defense spending, which is well past due, and put skin in the game so to speak, to ensure and uphold whatever peace comes out of these negotiations going forward is a good thing, but we are in the early stages and are just getting the contours of what's probably going to be a long, drawn-out process. >> it sounds like you agree with bill. this is the realist starting point that you have to begin with in order to bring peace in this area.

>> absolutely. we need to take a realistic approach to things on the ground. there is a high probability that it's going to get more violent before it gets better. both sides have to agree that they are out of the fight, and they are at a point that the value or cost of continuing this war is too high they have to -- that this war is not one they can sustain. -- putting into this fight. that's still a very realist perspective. seating territory doesn't mean you have to acknowledge or accept that the territory as a part of russia. after all, for you make of the european powers calling this emergency meeting today? they seem concerned about the

united states. in the beginning of this peace process that we are discussing right now -- what we have just discussed as a real starting point, it seems unacceptable. >> if europeans don't like it, perhaps they should raise defense budgets, produce weapons and armor button and put their own troops around it. one of my biggest problems with this war is that it has been sold as an existential war for a threat to the european cont continent. -- and at the europeans would have to be doing something of their own. i think that's why they're getting an a a tizzy over all of this, and they should be.

the chickens are coming home finally for the ukraine were for the europeans. they have talked a good talk, but have not backed it up. they have relied on the united states to take the lead, and i first saw this come from the very beginning. the russians always had the advantages, unless we were going through risk of potential world war iii. this was the outcome that was going to, and the europeans own this. there should have been some type of -- with the russians early on. though the best chance the ukrainians to lose the -- >> this is a fascinating conversation. i think it's a realist position, where the alternative is either a long protracted in vietnam-style war in that region, or to your point, a zero-sum game, pure world war iii to beat back the russians. this seems to be the realist point of view from which to start. thank you for this discussion.

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>> will: don't mess with the u.s. an incredible scene breaking out between canada and team usa, see montreal, after hockey fans did this during our national anthem. booing our national anthem before the start of the game. team usaid and levick --

team usa didn't like that. >> and the gloves are off. did not see this coming. >> will: three fights in the first nine seconds of the match. pride and rivalry. they went on to win 3 to 1. -- insult the united states -- that should become the 51st state. did strike you that this is the president's current approval rating. he has record popularity ratings

in america. i would say to them -- i don't know how you feel about it -- president trump represents the majority of americans. if you are booing him, you might be doing all of us. >> look, i think that's how the united states look at -- and they not only went on to settle those differences at the beginning of the game, but they also won the game. at the end of the day, congratulations and shout out to them for a dominant victory north of the border. we move forward. i think to a broader point, yes, the positions donald trump has taken, that he campaigned on for months -- these are the things american people want to see. that's why his approval ratings are at all-time high for him. i think he will bode well for the rest of his presidency. americans are sick and tired of america falling behind, their lives and livelihoods being staggered. they want to dominate america, robust america. there is no reason why that can't happen. president trump is answering

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>> congressman, they didn't seem to care about inflation for four years, but within one month of office, they are concerned about donald trump and inflation. >> i actually feel bad for hakeem jeffries. he has to go out there and say this kind of stuff, and nobody believes him because his party was in charge for four years and they did nothing. as a matter of fact, created the inflation crisis. my message to the minority leader is that you want to work with us to get price stability under control, have prices be stable for the american people, work with us to cut the wasteful spending that is all through washington, d.c. as opposed to rolling up their sleeves, making sure that we are not wasting the money of the american people. over the last four years in particular but really over the last 20, washington has wasted $3 trillion that we have had to borrow, which does increase prices on the american people.

i would challenge him, if you want to work towards solving the inflation crisis, let's unwind a bunch of the spending you voted for, that you supported your time in congress and work with us and what's best for the american people. >> president trump posted this on true social. it was a result of a poll on who you would favor for the governor of florida. you, according to the poll, where the overwhelming favorite. i think you had 34% and the closest was something like 4%. are you going to run for governor florida? >> well right now, the focus is washington, d.c. we have a big agenda to get through. we're going to be focused on that, and dealing with the governor's mansion in florida. time will tell. we will get to that in a little while. we have a majority in the house. we have to be focused on making sure the agenda gets done. and as long as we do things we campaigned on -- securing our

border, the largest deportation force in american history, getting prices under control, renewing president trump's tax cuts. as long as we get that stuff done, there will be plenty of time for mike -- >> i have known the congressman for a while. he's always wanted to make sports with me, be it football or basketball. here we are today with one of her first appearances on this show, and we are talking about hockey and nascar. you were at the daytona 500 with the president. was that the sport you had envisioned when you first when the to debate sports with me, hockey and nascar? >> not at all. i figured we would be talking about the nba all-star game last night. i agree with draymond, i thought it was a travesty. [laughter] interesting to watch, but that's not what the all-star game should be about. that is not sunday night, and simmering around the country. the need to get back to the original game. the players, they've got to bring it. if you want more people to watch, you have got to bring the energy, the excitement to the game. i know those players will be able to do that. >> like the u.s. hockey team did. you've got to care, and then we

will care. congressman byron donalds, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> it is presidents' day. our leaders fight for free speech. what will they think of today's bizarre claims from the legacy media? my big three on that, next. >> free speech was weaponized to conduct, and you know that, that the censorship was specifically about the right. >> i have to disagree with you. mylowe's rewards is here. join for free today to unlock member perks from the palm of your hand. with every purchase, all members earn point toward mylowes's money. get free gifts to bring home, member deals to get more projects done and free standard shipping. start earning for free with mylowe's rewards today. we handcraft every stearns & foster® using the finest materials, like indulgent memory foam, and ultra-conforming inner springs, for a beautiful mattress, and indescribable comfort. save up to $800 on select adjustable mattress sets at stearnsandfoster.com.

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>> will: this presidents' day, we celebrate great leaders who worked to deliver the mission of our founding fathers, which obviously includes freedom of speech, and today's big three. vice president j.d. vance gave the speech for the ages last week in europe, where he looks leaders of the e.u. in their face and said the great threat to western civilization might not come at your borders, but it might come from within. watch. >> the threat i worry most about vis-a-vis europe is not russia, not china, not any other external actor. what i worry about is the threat from within.

the retreat of europe for some of its most fundamental values shared with the united states of america. to many of us on the other side of the atlantic -- looks like old entrenched interests hiding behind a lit soviet era words like misinformation and disinformation, who simply don't like the idea that somebody with an alternative viewpoint might express a different opinion, or, god forbid, vote a different way, or even worse, win and election. across europe, free speech, i fear, is in retreat. >> vance pointing at the european embrace of censorship, the antagonism -- towards free speech. to have that highlighted later on cbs. they showed a german policy for arresting people who posted insulting things on the internet. watch. >> is a crime to insult somebody in public?

>> yes, it is. >> and it's a crime to insult them online as well? >> yes. >> the fine could be higher if you insult someone in the internet. >> why? >> in the internet, it stays there. if we are talking face to face, you insult me, i insult you, okay, finish, but on the internet, if i insult a politician -- >> it sticks around forever. >> summary posts something that's not true, and then somebody else reposts it or likes it, are they committing a crime? >> in the case of reposting it, it's a crime as well, because the reader can't distinguish whether you invented this or reposted it. it's the same for us. >> arresting people for something that might be insulting on the internet? who defines insult and? every victim, every offended person becomes the powerful, because no one can define what offends one person, what is insulting. pure insanity, but let's lay her insanity on top of insanity.

what's truly dangerous is for that mentality to be embraced at home. cbs's margaret brennan on "face the nation" spoke with the secretary of state marco rubio. she manages to jam in condescension, historical illiteracy, and the betrayal of american value and free speech in about 50 seconds. watch. >> he was standing in a country where free speech was weaponized to conduct a, and he met with the head of a political party that has far right views, and some historic ties to extreme groups. the context of that was changing the tone of it. you know that, that the censorship -- >> i have to disagree with you. >> -- the right. >> i have to disagree with you. free speech was not used to conduct a. the was conducted by an authoritarian, nazi regime that happened to be genocidal because

they hated jews, minorities -- they had a list of people they hated, but primarily the jews. there was no free speech in nazi germany, there was none. there was also no opposition in nazi germany. they were the only party that governed by country, so that's not an accurate reflection of history. >> to do what we do, you have to have some measure of self-awareness. i look at myself sometimes and say "are you being monotonous, patronizing?" i can slide into a tone of voice that can come off that way. somebody needs to make her aware of her condescension, "and you know that" she said to the secretary of state. what she says he should know is historically illiterate. the fact that -- saying that that led to the holocaust is untrue. and what people have to say isn't what led to the holocaust. a crazy fanaticism,-led mind-set led to the holocaust. in response they said "of the crews exchanged. does the media releasing the holocaust holocaust was caused by free speech post was? once again, public enemy number

one, from those who hold desks at news seats and microphones full of condescension, is free speech. joining me now is out kick founder, and host of -- clay travis. what do you think of this moment for cbs? >> i think cbs news is fundamentally broken, and they needed to absolutely fire absolutely everyone at the network and remake it. let me build on what you just said. what you said is important, but for people out there, they need to understand margaret brennan doesn't freelance a question like that pick that's a cultural question that comes from all of the workers on her show that surround her. no one, when she said "we need to confront marco rubio. did a fabulous job responding to this question, and he deserves a lot of praise. "we need to confront marco rubio, and

-- because germany had too much free speech and that's why the holocaust happened." no one on the "raised the nation" show raised their hand and set "what i remember from history is the ss troops were storming all the households and dragging anyone out who spoke out against hitler. the first footstep of authoritarianism is to stamp out free speech," because that's how dictators come to power. nobody raise their hand. it built, in the afternoon/evening on "60 minutes," they went to germany and praised government authorities who were arresting people who say things they don't like, and they didn't have alarm bells going off that if they want to be, as you said, not historically illiterate, they didn't think this is a modern-day version of the ss trying to stamp out free speech, just as happened with hitler? they are cheering this. they are, right now, trying to

get a merger done, paramount is. if i were looking at this as the fcc, i would say in conjunction with the "60 minutes" interview interview they wouldn't show descriptive of during the campaign, cbs news is broken. i'm not sure they deserve a license right now, because they don't have diversity of thought, and they don't even have basic intelligence when it comes to the news stories they are doing, if they are saying germany is getting it right for arresting people who post memes. >> and clay, if you back up the clock and say of course nazi germany wasn't a bastion of free speech -- they burn books. if you go to the weimar republic before nazi germany, it's not as though they were a bastion of free speech that allowed everyone to say what they wanted to say. speech is not your problem unless you have a desk where you dominate speech, and you don't like speech. really quickly, clay, you had been arrested long ago. if the standard of who you insulted or are you offended -- and you did it recently. you were part of this panel, we

talked about the rise of young men. i want to talk about this quickly. >> trump took a bullet in his ear and immediately stood up and said "fight, fight, fight." every man in america, most of the women out here, were impressed by that, even if the women won't admit it. and, second part of this, basically summing it up: democrats for men are [bleep], and republicans aren't. there are no masculine men in the democrat party right now. >> clay, they are going to be knocking at your door any minute. you have offended a lot of people. >> i better not go to germany. but look, i think this goes to the essence of why free speech is so important. you don't have to agree with me. i think i am right, but this is massively important. free speech exists for the minority opinion. if everybody agrees with what you say, you don't need the protection. minority opinion is what's protected through free speech in

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out from behind bars, expressing his gratitude to those that contributed half a million dollars to his legal defense fund. among those circulating the link to the fund, cnn's caitlin collins. she has since deleted her post, but went on to defend her actions saying "this is not true. i posted it as an attorney website which is newsworthy" and outlets have commented on and no way did i share a fund-raising link for him. here to react is fox news contributor mary katherine ham. i want to be fair, there are a lot of people saying bottom of the barrel stuff here sharing this fund-raiser, maybe there is not a direct link that she included in her post, what do you think of this? what she posted? >> i think we are in tricky ground, because this is a cultural phenomenon that is among the creepier i've seen which is this uprising of support for a cold-blooded killer who is on tape murdering execution-style a man for doing his lawful job. so it is wild what we have seen

crop up online in this instagram age, this guy unfortunately due to his conventional good looks is going to become someone that people fan girl and fan boy over and he will rake and a bunch of cash. as a journalist, you have to be careful about sharing something that links to a fund-raising link for this guy. it is newsworthy that he has a website run by his lawyers, right? let's report on that, may be a different link. and also just say sorry. you messed that up. i goofed out. >> will: and i'm trying to be fair, there is an element of newsworthy next to it. but the fact that she deleted it at least a very bad judgment to show where one could go to raise funds for the alleged killer. i want to ask you about this, mary catherine, sheryl crow has waved goodbye to her tesla. she got rid of it as a protest to elon musk, but also she said she is donating the funds to support npr because it needs more than our taxpayer dollars. >> sure.

you know what, i love this, because this is how npr should be funded. it is audience that is almost entirely performable in a liberal white ladies with very expensive cars and they should sell those in order to keep npr running so that we do not have to do it. i think it's a perfect gesture. you cannot give to like the fire victims or people in western north carolina, you have to give to npr, but it is liberal public talk radio funded by us. it does not need to be funded by us, it should be funded by sheryl crow. >> will: it should, other performative white ladies who listen to npr. very well put. >> it's the demo. >> will: thank you, mary catherine. here on "the will cain show" we are talking that kevin costner about his new series "yellowstone to yosemite" and we talk about much more. why the spark and these men for you, kevin?

>> we did one on yellowstone itself the national park and while we all enjoy them, very rarely do we actually understand how they came to be and when you think about things in life it's like are we ever going to make a difference in our lives, i asked myself that, everybody does. there's 8 billion of us on this planet now, what we do? but it is a story about how men and women can really make a difference through force of will and we saw that in yellowstone. >> will: catch my full interview with kevin costner tomorrow, we talk about politics and movies, values and movies, you will see that we had some technological issues that we embraced and i love here on the "will cain show." so thanks for joining us here, as we get to the heart of what matters from the heart of america. we will see you tomorrow. enjoy "the five."

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