>> we are awaiting a news conference from toronto pearson

international airport. it is about the delta air lines plane that took off from minneapolis and crash landed yesterday in canada. the jetliner burst into flames and then flipped upside down. 80 passengers were on board, and a miracle from the lord that nobody was killed. we do know of the people who were injured, the 21 who were injured. 19 have gone home from hospitals. two remain hospitalized. we hope to get there conditions as well as the exact cause of what they're learning so far. you are watching "outnumbered." i'm here with my cohosts paris paris -- and joining us of most of the american dream home on fox business. mollie hemingway, fox news contributor, editor in chief at the federalist, and jeremy hunt,

veteran's on-duty chairman and former army intelligence captain, so he is always fact-checking. dramatic new video. let's look at the moment of impact on the runway. watch this. [ends >> ohl [bleep]. [bleep]. no, no, no no no. tower, you are seeing this airplane just crash. >> there are times i'm so thankful bystanders have phones. that's a completely different vantage point. passengers who were inside the plan are talking about being upside down, hanging like bats, some of them, from their seats, because the seat belt was keeping them that way when the plane flipped over.

the video captures what it was like during evacuation. >> everything, drop it. come on. don't take a video. put that phone away. >> holy [bleep]. holy [bleep]. >> you can see the passengers frantic to get to safety. they were running towards the exits, trying to get out. flights and installing them to leave their belongings behind and please just go. now, i learned something about my coworkers every day. i just learned that cheryl casone is a former flight attendant. talk to me about what you have been taught for those instances back in the day and how this went. >> the crew, heroes, the pilot and all four flight attendants. you are trained to evacuate an aircraft when it is right-side up, not when it is upside down. that's one thing.

the slides were not deployed. that's number two code. how fast they got out of the aircraft is remarkable. fire is the biggest concern when you have any type of incident. the most worrisome times of any flight are going to be takeoff and landing. this was, as an expert told you on your show, a fast landing and dissent was fast. that will be part of the investigation. at the same time, what i did like about this -- and i will point my finger a little bit at people when you are flying. leave your stuff behind. you for the flight attendants they leave your stuff, you don't need your backpack, your phone. i'm glad we have video, but you don't need that stuff. just get off. when you are told to look out of the window to see if there's fire, we are not joking when we tell you that. but, these flight attendants were heroes. the other thing is how are you hanging upside down and able to release that seat belt on -- really smaller craft. when you get into one, and i'm sure everybody on this couch has fallen on one. i will be on one end two weeks. it's a small amount of inches

when you get on the plane -- between your head and the top of the plane. some of the larger passengers were probably able to actually almost reach the ceiling, let go, and then help others. i think it was a very fast, efficient evacuation. >> that's amazing. >> so lucky. real quick, i want to have a conversation about the actual room -- about lap children. >> as you were talking. molly, i will come to you on this. if you don't have much headroom, i worry about people hitting their heads upside down on a plane. that's why i thought you were going. let's hope the injuries didn't involve that, because some people did go to the hospital to get evaluated and they have now gone home. that is a blessing that they wouldn't have because they are in that seat so tight. but look, i have been that parent traveling with a toddler, two under two. it's frightening to think of leaving a bag behind when i know their lives would depend on it. i appreciate what you're saying

but i don't think i would take a lecture from a flight attendant in that moment. i might need that bag. i want to leave enough grace for people to understand that you are also panicking, you might not even hear the flight attendant but you know you got your kids with us -- i don't know what the configuration was. i think we only know of one toddler hospitalized of the two that we are thinking, but we don't even have that confirmed. >> it's a reminder of all sorts of things like the constant admonition to make sure you are buckled. you know people don't do that, and you see a landing like this which was a fast, maybe hard landing, where even if this hadn't happened, a rollover, you still want to be buckled, and it's still a good reminder of those things. these incidents still are extremely rare. it's a miracle how we are able to travel with relatively few problems, but it doesn't keep me from praying each and every landing. this is not something i would like to go through. i can't imagine what it was like for those people.

>> i believe in aviation. i am the kid of a combat pilot. my husband and youngest child are on the flight right now coming home from spring break, arizona. they do spring break in february now, i guess, so i pray too but i also understand what goes in to getting us to be so competitive in aviation as a country. that's why come to you now, jeremy. i know as an intelligence officer, you are looking into everything, especially when military crashes happen. >> there's going to be a lot of questions asked. i am hoping we get to the bottom of this and get the answers, but you watch that video. you are reminded of how much trust we put into the air travel process. you are trusting the aircraft to see if it is past the maintenance checks, the safety checks. checking the pilot -- that they know what they're doing. when you see images like this, i think it makes a lot of people very fearful. it's important to remember what molly said. iowa state prayers while i'm taking off. my peace comes from the lord and knowing i will be okay.

secondly, understanding that we live in a country that we take these things very seriously. we have professionals on the ground looking into all the details of it. even the crash in d.c. we are still looking into answers there. we take these things seriously. we live in a country that takes it seriously. that's a huge blessing. it is not like that everywhere. >> we are also in a country that gets so many flights taken off and landing, millions of them with no issue. i think we need to be grateful for that too, because people are going to move around. >> this video that we are showing that was taken from the cockpit of a plane that was waiting to take off, you can hear, as he is exclaiming what's happening, this is another pilot watching. this is one that's in the most control of our safety. my prayers go to those pilots every day, those flight crews who are dedicated first and foremost to the safe air travel of the passengers.

earlier on "america's newsroom," they had a german who took this video periods testimony was remarkable. he expected to skid a lot longer. we talked about the fast evacuation, but the crash itself was fast. he said "i expected to keep skidding. instead, we just flipped over. it was so sudden." perhaps, as we see in the video, that wing catching. we talk about the importance come of the crew sheltie of our safety belts. it's also imperative we wear them correctly. we all remember that horrific flight where the plane eclipsed the wall before landing, and the majority of the horrific injuries on that flight, including multiple deaths, were because of the improper use of the seat belt. you know about it better than i do. all of the back injuries. it is important to be safely tied in, but also low across your lap, which speaking of, i love to hear the lap children point. >> i understand that you have to

pay for an extra seat for a child -- i understand. that is an economic hardship on so many people. at the same time, if you are going to put your child in a car seat in the car, why wouldn't you put your child in a car seat on the plane? it has always bothered me. i was very young. i was a flight attendant for most of my 20s before i went back to school, studying journalism. some thrilled to build a talk about it like this. at the time when i was flying, i remember that it always bothered me inside. going to the training, you are trained on worst-case scenario. something is going to happen to you in the car, not on a plane. the statistic. i will be on a plane every day the rest of my life, for fun. if i could, but -- i hope the faa might -- >> the airline -- your fox business. they can lower affairs. lower fares for a second seat

for travel. it is not that hard. >> it's true that car travel is got but all the safety provisions we per to put in place coming with the cost. one is that it's hard to have a bunch of children and put them vehicle. my siblings make fun of our parents for how they would put us in the upper level of the back of a car, no room car restraints at that age. it's bad, and it was a common way for people to die. but there are costs. you don't get to see people as much. you don't get to be part of -- >> it is not an easy conversation and i understand that. >> i'm glad we are having it, though. we have actual spring break travel coming up. it's a good one for us to have. i have no compunction about flying, but i've seen a season of this now, and we are covering it stem to stern. we are awaiting a federal judge's decision on whether to block the department of government efficiency from critical government access. that decision could come down at any moment. a lot happening this hour.

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>> elon musk's doge says it has created an estimated $55 billion in total savings for american taxpayers and we are just getting started. we are awaiting a federal judge's decision on a challenge to block doge from accessing data and making personal decisions at several federal agencies. the block appears unlikely but the decision could come down any moment. peter doocy is live at the white house with the latest. >> even if the judge's ruling goes against the white house's doge effort, officials here said it will not slowed him down but just basket will not stop them.

>> put in place -- it's temporary. that's what they are referred to as winning. they are not winning. once these go up, the judges have reversed them were seen as real fraud and that we are not doing anything wrong. >> trump and his team talked about waste, fraud, abuse. they are starting to argue that the real waste, fraud, and abuse is by billionaires at the white house trying to help billionaire friends. >> corruption is up, chaos is up, prices are up for americans. that's why we are standing up against this effort. >> doge is -- access to the irs's integrated data retrieval system soon. musk claims he needs access thereto understand duplicate payments. he discusses that all this is losing him friends. >> i was at a friend's birthday party, birthday dinner. it was a nice, quiet dinner, and

i happens to mention before the election the president's name. it was like they got shot with a dart in the jugular that contained methamphetamine and rabies. >> the acting head of the social security administration who -- last month on january 21st, 1 day into terms term has decided to step down after a spat with musk's engineers about access to sensitive taxpayer data. >> thank you. mollie hemingway. which of these critics be concerned about that isn't necessarily the access to the data, which the irs already has? >> i think the big issue here is we are finally having a fight that's been 100 years in the making. we have a constitution that has three branches of government. congress is the most important first one, than the executive and judiciary. over the last 100 years, we

built at this unconstitutional branch of government that enforces the laws -- the bureaucracy. democrats are president, that bureaucracy goes well and helps them, and when republicans are president, it works as a fight against them. the question is can you have a constitutional system of government with this unaccountable, unelected fourth branch of government? we will see how it ends up, but that's what it's about. that's what democrats are freaking out about it and why trump has chosen this battle. >> 92% of those in d.c. voted for kamala harris, meaning those are the ones that believe in the bloat, the bureaucracy, and are fighting so hard to protect bureaucracy, not democracy. >> that's exactly right. they want to protect the status quo, keep those checks coming in. i think for me, someone who grew up in the conservative movement -- i remember having conversations and saying what does it mean to be conservative?

"we believe in reducing the size of government, cutting out government inefficiencies." we have been having this conversation for decades, but there's never been a president who said "i will take it and get it done." and now we are seeing all this pushback. politicians are comfortable with lip service, but they don't like it when you start getting results. that's what we are seeing. it's a messy process. you have to get all the answers. the one thing we are seeing is it is incredibly transparent. democrats are having a hard time saying it's corrupt. everything's out in the open. you can see what's going on, and how and how elon musk and president trump are getting to the bottom of a lot of issues in the government that are just wastefulness. the corruption that's been going on for years before they got in office. i think it's good that we are seeing a lot of americans excited about now we finally have a moment where we are getting power back to the people, not bureaucrats in washington. >> i want to point out the fine

line here i've had this conversation many times with republicans and democrats. there will be some fallout, because people will be losing their jobs. we don't talk about that like it's a real thing, like these aren't real people, but they are and it is real. then the question becomes what do you do to help them recover in the instances that they can't see a future forward? i just hearken back to something that senator jim justice, it's still in my head last friday, and he said "you make a better economy without those jobs. you move forward but making sure in your state by west virginia which is where senator justice is a lawmaker --" says "you look for the opportunities specific to what you can do." so west virginia, that would be energy. "we can be a driver of the economy for all of america by doing our part in energy. there will be jobs and energy." you need that.

you need a workforce. of jobs coming out of an over bloated government comes out of that workforce, it helps you going forward. i think talking about that other side takes the bogeyman out of it. that's important. democrats are saying "you will kill these jobs, and people will starve to death." i don't think anybody would be on board for that, but we have to plan our way through it. >> the substantive argument that these folks are making. the photographs, text messages, camera, microphone, data broker websites. your home address and telephone number. where is the outrage on that? foreign adversaries at the ccp that have control and access to your children's influence, to the shaping of your minds and what they think about. the fact that these critics are worried about access to the

agency that spends $8 trying to claw back every $1 of our money. fresh air, innovative thinking, even efficient thinking is not the enemy. to me, the common sense auditing of my tax dollars worries me astronomically less and the point of view of the person who has been at the home of the agency -- has been there for 40 years. "there is no way this --" the knee-jerk resistance of people who said they never have to worry about putting food on the table because "my tax dollars were always there to put it for them." >> elon musk made it clear: "if i wanted your social security number, i would've grabbed at paypal." that's a simplistic answer to this discussion. why does he need access to the treasury payment system? because the treasury payments are going out to social security. that's where the waste and fraud is. that's why he and his team, the forensic accountants, programmers, engineers, digital services experts. these are the experts. all president trump has done in

a simple stick form is he has hired an outside consultant to come in who does not have skin in the game, which is what you do when you are ceo: you bring some of the outside to look at your books. "i have accounting problems, help me out." that's all this team is doing. a lot of them probably don't look like washington, d.c., regular folks walking around with red suits and pearls on. they probably got hoodies on and teddy shoes. let them do the work. in particular with social security, you can't tell me that anybody will be shocked that we have had social security fraud and checks that have been going out the door for years to people no longer alive. a shocker. in the system, people are -- 360 years old. that's fascinating. i would love to talk to that person. >> "the new york post" has done some reporting. apparently it was so bad that in july of 2023, they started to look at this and audit it. my question is, what have they

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accident. that includes comfort as well as supports, their emotional well-being and the hours since the crash. we have completed the reunification process for all the remaining passengers and will continue to care for them during this extended time. i will now give you more information about the operations at pearson yesterday, and what to expect in the days ahead. 15 centimeters of accumulated snow. that's not typical. in fact, it's more snow within

that time window than we received in all of last winter. there were many delays and cancellations across this part of canada, and the u.s. northeast during this time, creating numerous flight delays and backlogs. at toronto pearson, 221 of 974 scheduled flights were canceled on thursday. 75 of 1,012 flights, scheduled flights, were canceled friday. 128 of 937 scheduled flights were canceled on saturday. 371 of 987 scheduled flights were canceled on sunday. monday was a clear day, though, and it was an operational recovery day for toronto pearson, with 1,006 scheduled flights. the results yesterday, indu part to the accident, 462 scheduled flights canceled, 544 flights operated.

let's talk about the investigation and what to expect in the next few days as we pivot to this phase. investigation. members of the u.s. federal aviation administration. as it is a mitsubishi aircraft so what does this all mean for operations at toronto pearson today and the days ahead.

we are currently dashed east-west on the north/south runways. ongoing additional expected weather conditions today will affect we do expect that the investigators on site will be reviewing the aircraft on its current configuration on the runway for the next 48 hours, and we are looking to support that investigation and the removal of that aircraft off the runway, at which point we can do our inspections and return that runway into service. toronto pearson will continue to -- with updates. this is now an active investigation time, and you can expect to start hearing more from the investigating authorities about the accident that happened here. we expect that the

transportation safety board of canada will be issuing a statement with more information around that later this afternoon. in closing, i think the industry, the commy, all of our employees here and across the sector for all the work they are doing to support this incident and those affected. and that they do everyday. air travel remains the safest transportation. we are proud of that record here. at a time like these, we are grateful and thankful of how the community and industry comes together as one. thank you. >> we will now take a few questions. folks can maybe come up to the mike's if possible if there is -- the microphones if possible if there is one in the audience. >> a question about the conditions yesterday. obviously, you just explained --

the storms that came over the past few days. wondering if there's been a need of elements or comments about what exactly it was like on the runway in terms of icing us or wind gusts. last night, we are the fire chief say he did not believe that the -- played a role in the crash. is that still the theory? if so, do we have feldman's on what caused the crash if it was not weather-related? >> this would not be a time for us to have theory or to speculate on what caused the crash. we have a number of agencies here responsible for doing a thorough and full and complete investigation for you. we are looking forward to getting those results. >> can you tell us what the condition of the runway was like at that time, of the impact?

speak i look forward to sharing that information at the proper time. those are all the details that will be covered during this investigation, and that is active currently. >> i have one question and a follow-up. does air traffic handle crg's differently than others in crosswinds? >> air traffic control is responsible -- for all the aircraft activity at toronto pearson and surrounding areas. they will have to respond to it -- and aircraft uniquely. >> who makes that decision? >> that's a cross collective decision made between canada and the pilots during live operations. we are not pausing operations. we do have a slow down in the operations do to two of our runways being closed for operations at this time. those are the key contribute

factors to the delays. >> last question. there is no delta or tsv representatives on the stage. are you able to speak to -- >> we have been in communication with all of those involved. all of the agencies, delta airlines and others. we have all had quite a sense of communication. they have been in our eoc, emergency operations center. so, the system and response to the accident is working as planned and going quite well with our partners. >> two questions. one is the two people who remain in the hospital. anytime one on how long they may remain? speak i don't have that information. >> do know what condition they are in? >> what we do know is that 19 of those that were hospitalized are no longer hospitalized. the two that remain, none faced life-threatening injuries from what we have been briefed and with delta airlines has rel

released. >> deborah, given what we saw from all the social media videos and i'm sure what you have seen internally, is it more remarkable that everyone was able to survive this incident? >> there are so many factors that lead us to have gratitude today. i cannot commend enough the crew, the flight attendants, pilots, and our emergency responders, for their quick and effective response. it's really incredible. when you see that aircraft, it makes you thankful for all the safety checks that go into running one of the world's safest transportation systems. >> we will take questions. >> good morning. my question is -- wreckage still on the runway. i still want to know how long we can be out there and what kind of impact it's having on service

at the airport. >> as i shared, yes, the remains of the aircraft will remain on the runway while the investigators are performing their reviews. we expect that that could be about 48 hours, and so, until that time, two of our runways will remain closed. that's affecting the value of traffic we are having. passenger should be looking and working with airlines, checking the website for information on delays and potential cancellations for the next several days. >> as a follow-up, many of us have been talking to passengers. most of them are understanding of the ripple effects but are frustrated by the lack of information or conflicting information. what do you say to your passengers who were trying to get themselves on flights, destinations, but are left feeling frustrated by conflicting information? >> we are here very much at the import to support and provide passenger care for people who might find themselves at the

airport and have their flights disrupted. we will continue to provide that customer care for them, but in the interim, please check with your airlines, websites, apps -- flight information. >> thank you. we will move to questions to the responders. >> can you talk a little bit about the response, how long it took fire trucks to get to the planning, and can you talk about the flame we saw in the video, the smoke? was it easy to put out? take us through it. >> thank you for the question. the actual time was a very quick response. upon arrival, the crew did witness spot fires. they were able to quickly knocked on the spot fires using the rescue firefighting apparatus.

once the fires were knocked down, but cruz made entry and performed primary search and rescue. the passengers were evacuated and taken to a secondary location for triage with mutual aid partners. >> can you describe what it's like? we have seen video of the passengers hanging upside down in the seat belts. can you just describe what it was like to get these people -- hanging and cut down out of the plane? >> i believe most of the passengers itself evacuated at that time. upon arrival, they were being escorted to a second location. >> hello. i am seeking some clarity from a first responders perspective on

the elements, and how they played a role in your efforts yesterday. i know people are looking for clarity on what the fire chief said and its own sake won't give us that, but can you tell me what it was like out there on the runway as you were doing your job? was the runway dry? the wind gusts -- had an impact? >> it is early to make any conclusions. i know i provided information yesterday for transparency. we have an active investigation. any of those questions would have to be directed toward transportation safety board. >> hi. s the chief, i wondered if the other first responders can speak to their own experiences, what you found, and how you care to for some these passengers.

>> assurer. >> thank you for the question. deputy chief of -- police. i would like to, before i answer the question, i would like to say that our thoughts and prayers are with the 76 crew members and passengers and their families impacted by yesterday's events, which fortunately had the best possible outcome for all of us. our response as police, we are the police jurisdiction. we have a really robust presence here at the airport. we have a fully functioning division with 100 officers and civilians located -- we have a presence on the public and private side. we were able to respond in a timely fashion along with our first responder partners. the conditions were difficult, but i will say this, that we

regularly practice with our partners in fire, ems, gt aa. prepared for this event as extreme as it was. our men and women not only in policing but also across first responder services did a tremendous job. in my mind, no doubt saved li lives. there was some impact on the police jurisdiction being ourselves not only here at the airport, but as you can imagine, we don't have search capacity to deal with something like this the way we do a private industry. so, we had at 1.50 police officers responding to the circumstances of the airport i would like -- to thank our partners at the opp, the

commissioner, and the chief, because they supported us through the aftermath of the incident by sending officers to support both public divisions, 11-12 division. although it was a great response by first responders supporting gt aa and the tsp partners. we are well prepared for it should this happen. >> the fire and communications services, received the 911 call. we had a quick response, we had six apparatus. it was a combination of the squads. in addition, we sense the command vehicle and a tanker.

we also had an acting platoon chief, a district chief, and myself that attended the scene. i took a position. -- annually, our firefighters participate in joint training with peers in fire. our primary response is to assist water supply. participates in two annual emergency exercises that are held at toronto pearson international airport each year, including a high level tabletop command exercise and a full-scale boots on the ground emergency exercise.

in addition to the exercises conducted each year at toronto pearson international airport, the city of mississauga conducts its own emergency exercise. the partner's organizations, including those represented in the exercises held here -- emergency management training for various organizations who may space might be involved in the response to an aircraft accident. the offices of emergency management could also serve as a conduit -- and the provincial operation center, if

provincial-wide coordination for the response and recovery of the community impacts during an emergency is required. during an aircraft accident, the mississauga office of emergency management can assist in the coordination of providing municipal services if requested by our community partners who may be impacted in the event of. this conforms with and operates in conjunction to the airport's emergency plan developed by the greater toronto airport authority. >> thanks. that was a fulsome response. >> i also wondered if anyone could speak to the nature of some of the injuries. >> do you want to speak to some of them?

>> good afternoon. i am the commander of operations in the paramedic services. upon our arrival of the crash site, our staff were faced with a multitude of different injuries. >> any other questions? >> i want to follow-up on this effort. can you please give us some idea of the timeline? how long did -- parent exam firefighters, did it take for them to get to the airplane, and how long did it take for them to evacuate the airplane? >> todd? do you want to take that?

>> the response from emergency services was minutes. because there is an active investigation, we won't be able to provide the details, but it was a quick response from emergency services as well as our partners. >> can you comment on the role that flight attendants played? >> we trained for such events. we are very well prepared and trained. the firefighters responded textbook. they were able to knock down the fire. they were able to assist the passengers getting off that plan, and then performing triage and response to the hospitals. >> next question. >> i know you can't confirm what

you saw on the runway, but can you confirm that the runway had been coded across the board as a wet runway for the pilots, a runway with lights, snow, slush pesto light light snow or slash? -- light snow or slash? >> like i mentioned earlier, because there is an active investigation, that will have to be directed towards a transport safety board stage. >> i want to go back to something mr. andrews said. you talk about difficult conditions that rescuers face on the ground. hoping you can -- the detail? >> with who? >> bbc. >> no, sorry, that -- regional police? >> thank you for the question. the conditions i was speaking of

the environmental conditions, the cold, the wind, the fact that we were still having the occasional snow. those conditions, again, we are worst to you -- we are used to working in. tremendous job of responding in those conditions. part of the environment that we have operated. >> megan fitzpatrick from cbc news. >> we will pull away from this. some of the questions have been around the very issue we knew that they would be, and that was what were the conditions of the surrounding area when the plane was landing. we had a guest last hour. i wanted to play little bit of that, and then we will get into what is becoming clear. we didn't get a real good answer. i spoke with the former commercial airline pilot who also investigated this in the

19 -- let's watch. >> it is very important. i hate to disparage the fire chief, but i had the weather at the time of the crash. it was like, the winds were 270 at 26 gusts of 36. then, i've got the data from when they were at 532 feet. their sink rate and their airspeed indications. >> he went on to say how fast they were coming down, or his pilots might tell you they were coming down too fast, but we will see what the investigation holds. your thoughts. >> hope we can get some of those answers. obviously, there leading the way with their transportation safety board leading the way with a lot of this, canada. it would be different if it were but our own secretary duffy leading the way. i think we have to get the answers for a lot of the families.

two people that are hospitalized right now. obvious lee, our prayers go out to them and that they get well quickly. how does this happen and how to make sure it doesn't happen again? >> we didn't learn a lot about those few people. we certainly keep them in our prayers. we also want to know however what else is doing. some of the survivors are talking. >> it seems like this press conference, people were answering questions without a lot of information provided. and you can understand that this is a very litigious situation. there could've been a wide variety of things that led to it, but speaking to the collective angst, it's probably why we are caring so much about wanting to make sure that every part of society is handled through merits, one to have the best people possible as pilots, air traffic controllers, et cetera. >> one time in puerto rico, i

had a layover. our plans were too close together. long story short, we had to stay the night. i remember them saying "don't worry about this. it means the system is working. it means the high standards of the faa -- that's why we are safe here for the night rather them" -- and -- that the faa had these high standards. into your point that people in the purchased tickets can be reliance on safety being upheld, that the factors are appropriately communicated so that the small variables you can't control, there is a structure in place to be able to observe them like high winds, like ice out of nowhere pick you up the human quotient in there, that they are supposed to -- >> i know you have been talking with the head of the flight attendants. you are talking to everybody. what can you share? >> that this was a very difficult landing, that they said 20 inches of snow. there was an extraordinary amount of snow that hit this

airport more than they are used to. out that they can't handle it, but that's what the news conference told us. as for the aircraft landing and the way that it landed, if you look at the video of the crash landing, you can see it. that's what they are all talking about right now, the fact that you had a very slushy, slick runway, and a plane that was coming in very fast. i don't want to get ahead of canadian authorities. the ntsb is going to be assisting. i am not the expert of crash investigations, but from the community out there in the airline industry that i've talked to, very much so that's where their mind is and where their thoughts are going. >> all right. more "outnumbered" in a moment. ( ♪) you never want to lose your edge. and the lexus rx completely understands that. (♪) mom where's my homework? mommy! hey hun - sometimes, you just need a moment. self-care has never been this easy.

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