wants to see what happens tomorrow in the court case with adams >> thank you very much. providing update today saying the 88 year old has developed pneumonia in both lungs. and quote the holy father clinical condition continues to present a complex sure. we will continue to update you on those conditions as we get more information there. i can also tell you, that we are learning from the white house at the executive order the president is about to sign, has to do with access to ivf, this is something the president talked about. you promised that it would be a right that he would ensure, americans. look to that in a moment, that's the story for today! will cane, coming up next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

>> will: live from the heartland this is the will cane the show. it's 4:00 and that means as we have come to expect, news from president donald trump. images on your screen in palm beach florida where trump is that signing another batch of executive orders. swapping out the signing desk for the podium. we expect the president to speak very soon. we just got details on what he is signing it relates to expanding access to ivf in -- and reducing health care cost. we will bring you updates. we have a big show here for you today including an interview with celebrity after superstar kevin costner. we are supposed to be joined as well by the secretary of transportation sean duffy. later in the show we will talk about the flu, with alex. nobody is talking about it but everybody is experiencing the flu. we keep an eye on palm beach,

florida,, we are going to begin with this. >> the american people are alarmed about the possibility that elon musk and his far right extreme minions, have access to their personal and financial information. >> president trump is on a rampage of legality, he has a lot of authority, he has an agenda, he is entitled to pursue his agenda with all the power of the executive branch. but he is not entitled to do in a way that is not constitutional. >> i am here to protest the president, president elon musk, protest all the executive orders. he is not our president. everything he is doing is mass destruction. >> will: no slow down in the meltdowns over elon musk and his efforts to cut government waste. but why the left paints doj as a

way to panic there is no reason, that brings us to today's big three. let's dive deep. where we are first, this is what has been said so far by estimates of doj cutting government waste and unneeded contracts. $55 billion in savings so far. where did that come from? usaid, the department of education, if we just zoom in on d.o.e. for one moment you we see that we cancelled something like $600 million in contracts for dei training. personal management, hhs, agriculture, homeland security. and doj has been asked to step then, take a look at the pentagon. it's also been invited in to take a look at the department of transportation specifically as we talk about hopefully, just a few moments with the secretary of transportation sean duffy, spacex engineers. visiting the ffa.

elon musk said something fascinating, he said there was $4.7 trillion in treasury payments, with no tracking company. every payment from federal government is supposed to have a comment field telling you where that money was spent. congress legislates the money, treasury signs the checks. but of treasury's not saying where that money when we have no idea where $4.7 trillion was spent. elon musk talks about this and much more tonight, with donald trump in sean hannity. >> and, now, again you do all of this and i would think liberals would love the fact that you have the biggest electric vehicle company in the world. >> i used to be an advisor. this whole sort of, trump

arrangement syndrome, you don't realize how real this is until you can reason with people. i was at a friend's birthday party, and there was a nice quiet dinner and everybody was behaving normally, this was before the election, after i mention the president's name it was like they got shocked or shot in the jugular. >> we can have a normal conversation? -- we can't have a normal conversation? >> will: a lot of speculation about the relationship between elon musk and president donald trump. a rare and pleasant image to see donald trump open mouth smile and laughing, along with elon musk. you don't want to miss that tonight on hannity! that brings us to number 2, there is a federal judge currently hearing the cases over doj and it's fascinating to listen to the back and forth, terry he was a legal analyst here at fox news, has been

listening in and she put on a very important things, i think it's important to understand. from the filings, what we have come to understand is that elon musk has no actual, formal authority to make government decisions. he is simply standing as advisor. he is not an employee of doj but he is an employee of the white house. here is the analogy, elon musk is like a needed don who is like a special government employee to president biden. that is a fascinating analogy back one that undercuts the hyperventilating freak out from the left. what more? doj employees are not unique. pointing out this morning, that doj employees are federal employees, watch! >> doj employees are federal government employees! not only should they have the same access as their career official colleagues, they should have more access, because they

were effectively directly elected by the people, via the president and the election. a lot of what we are seeing over the past few weeks is just the media and certain lawmakers being disingenuous and i think exploiting the american people's lack of knowledge over how this works. in the political appointees, just like everyone else, therefore should be able and permitted to do their job. if they are not it's essentially like a usurpation of the democratic process. >> here's what's fascinating, federal employees have access to your information, if a doj employee is a federal employee, they simply have access. to the same information that we have had granted to other federal employees. it's almost if this was a manufactured crisis. in fact, it is, when guys like senator john federman are telling you, you should be terrified about elon musk rummaging around your

information. elon musk responded on x, if i wanted to rummage the random personal stuff i could've done that on paypal. hello i have tens of million of people marked on social security as alive when they are definitely dead. it's a huge problem. a lot of people that made the comparison by the way to programs under then democrat president barack obama. what's new about doj? i actually want to look to a different source of inspiration. that takes us to number 3. that's argentina, a few months to a year ago we focus a lot on the new leader of argentina. he came in with a meat cleaver, cutting away government waste and spending. here's what he did in argentina, he had the number of ministries downgraded, ministry of education, culture, gender and diversity, public sector workers

down 10%. that's nearly 400,000 jobs. what's the effect? was there an msnbc hyperventilating about argentina? and what did they say now, that argentina inflation has had a five-year low, for half the air? perhaps, the success for america could have been modelled in argentina. that the deep dive on doj for today. we are still monitoring palm beach, florida, on the bottom of your screen right there we are expecting trump to come in and talk about new executive orders that he signed today. we're probably also expecting a wide range q&a. we hope that we can take that as well as get to what we think is a big show for you including transportation secretary, sean duffy, alex on the flu that is spreading all around this nation and, dr. kevin costner joining us. talking about his new box nation

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>> will: right now president trump is speaking after sending executive orders from mara largo in palm beach, florida. let's watch. >> a short while ago president trump signed three items, the first it's an executive order relating to the affordability and availability of in vitro fertilization and other fertility treatments. >> the chair: these are treatments that have become unaffordable for many americans, and the executive orders that direct the domestic policy council, to examine ways to make ivf and other first -- fertility treatments affordable for more americans. the second item that we signed was a presidential memorandum,

imposing radical transparency requirements on government department agencies in keeping with president trump the administration's, broader commitment to governmental transparency. with his presidential memorandum would do, is require as a waste, fraud, and abuse is uncovered as programs are cancelled, and ultimately as taxpayer dollars are saved, his presidential memorandum would require departments and agencies to make all the details of that, freely available to the public. lastly, we have another executive order, the president -- that president trump signed regarding independent agencies this order would establish important oversight functions in the office of management and budget and supervising independent agencies and the many of their actions. also reestablishing the long-standing norm that only the president or the attorney general can speak for the united states when stating an opinion as to what the law is.

>> president donald trump: thank you very much, that was the primary purpose of this conference. to explain that they are important in their own way, fertilization as i have said, we are going to do what we have to do and i think the women and families, husbands, are very appreciative of it. that was it, i do want to say while i am up here i am protected by the biggest companies of the world, and because of what we are doing economically and through tariffs and taxes and incentives, they want to come back into the united states. we will be announcing various companies, having to do with chips and having to do with cars and lots of other things. we are going to be announcing some very big momentous decisions that are being made by companies all around the world. the biggest, they want to come back into the u.s.

car plants are being cancelled in other locations because they want to build them here. you read about a method, one in mexico was just cancelled because they are going to be building them in the united states and that is simply because of what we're doing with with respect to taxes, tariffs and incentives. i think is very important and you will be seeing this over the next probably over the next two years to be honest, but also a lot of it over the next few weeks. while we are here, i guess we can take a couple of quick questions, go ahead please. >> have you decided specifically what the auto tariff rate should be >>president donald trump: i will probably tell you that on april second. but it will be in the neighbourhood of 25%. it will be 25% and higher and it will go very substantially higher over the course of the year. but we want to give them time to

come in because as you know when they come into the united states and they have their plant or factory here, there is no tariff. we want to give them a little bit of a chance. >> the e.u. representative is going to be here in washington next week. he is going to be meeting with greer, what can the e.u. do to sort of avoid reciprocal tariffs that you've talked about and, you have talked about the a-t, do you expect them to reduce that? >> president donald trump: they did already as i understand it, reduce their card tariff all the way down to what we have and a lot of that will take place and some won't do it and some will do it but the e.u. had a 10% tax on cars and now they have a 2.5% tax which is the exact same at us. already we have saved a tremendous amount, that would be great if everybody would do that, they would all be in the same playing field. because essentially what we are doing with the tariffs is, they

charge us, we charge them some amount. is called reciprocal actually. but if they charge as we charge them. you, i appreciate they did this but the e.u. has been unfair to us. they don't take our cars. they don't take our farm products, they don't take almost anything. they take very little. we are going to have to straighten that out, and we will have no doubt about it. >> can you tell us a little bit more about the russia talks? if you are more confident or less confident with the deal? >> president donald trump: much more confident, they were very good. russia wants to do something, they want to stop this average barbarian is him... soldiers are being killed by the thousands on a weekly basis, it's ridiculous.

a lot of koreans have been killed as you know. quite a bit of them have been wiped out. we want to end it, it's a senseless war, it should have never happened. it would've never happened if i was president and it's a shame to see it. i see pictures of fields that look horrible, it looks like gettysburg if you see old pictures of gettysburg, soldiers lying all over the field, body parts, all dead. this is going on on a daily basis. it's a horrible thing, both russia and ukraine, are losing thousands and thousands of soldiers. a lot of people have been killed that's one of the things that you will see historically and you will see later on, i think people are going to be surprised at how many people not only soldiers have been killed in ukraine. a lot more people than you think.

>> president trump, as part of the peace deal with newton would you be willing to consider removing all american troops from europe? >> president donald trump: nobody's asking me to do that so i don't think we have to do that. i would not want to do that. but that question is never really -- the question has never really come up. >> support stationing european peacekeeping troops in ukraine as part of this peace deal? >> president donald trump: if they want to do that i am all for it. i think that would be fine. i mean i know friends mentioned it. the u.k. has mentioned about, yes, if we have a peace deal i think having troops over there from the standpoint of europe, we won't have to put any over there because, we are very far away. having troops over there would be fine, i would not object to it all. we talk about this now, peace we have either a cease-fire or

peace itself and we are looking to do both. starting off with the cease-fire. if they want to do that, i know france was willing to do that and i thought that was a beautiful gesture mark. >> do you have a message for ukrainians who after three years of fighting, might field -- might feel betrayed? >>president donald trump: i think i'm disappointed in what is happening your muck i have been watching is for three years, it's a war that would've never happened if i was president. people are being killed at levels that we have rarely seen, not even close since the second world war. i am very disappointed. i hear they are upset about not having a seas, they have had a seat for three years. and a long time before that, this could've been settled easily. a half-baked negotiator could have settled this years ago. without the loss of much land,

without the loss of any lives and without the loss of cities that are just laying on their sides. you have these magnificent golden domes that are shattered, they will never be replaced. 1000-year-old domes that are so beautiful, you cannot replace that. the whole civilization has changed because of what is happened. somebody that should have made a deal a long time ago, you could have made a deal. this is one that could have made a deal, there was no talk of this during the trump administration, vladimir putin would've never done it. by the way we would have not had october seventh, we would have not had october seventh. he would have not had that mess going on over there. we are putting out fires all over the world. that would have not happened and you know what else would have not happened? inflation because it was caused really by the cost of energy

going through the roof because of the bad energy policies. and also, the spending, the terrible spending on the green scam. >> i want to ask you, what would it take for you to reconsider the restrictions on to the associated press and secondly some of your advisors are concerned with the associated press style guide. using language in giving guidance to not use words like illegal immigrant, or phrases like gender-affirming care. they are concerned about that being liberalism, do you share those concerns? >> president donald trump: i do think some of the phrases that they want to use our ridiculous. i think frankly they become obsolete, especially in the last three weeks. because many things have happened in the last three weeks. i did not know about that but i would say that if they want to use certain phrases like that, and i guess some are okay but

many are not. the associated press just refuses to go with what the law is and what has taken place, it's called the gulf of america now. it's not called the gulf of mexico any longer. i have the right to do it just like they have the right to do mount mckinley and nobody's even challenging that. but only the associated press, i don't know what they are doing but i would say we keep them out until such time. now, the associated press as you know has been very wrong on the election. on it trump and the treatment of trump and other things having to do with trump. and republicans and conservatives. they are giving us no favours and i guess i am not doing them any favours, that's the way life works. >> we're hearing that russia

wants to force ukraine to hold new elections for any peace deal, is that something the u.s. whatever support? >> president donald trump: we have a situation where we have not had elections in ukraine. we have martial law, essentially marshaling ukraine. where the leader in ukraine, i hate to say that he is down 4% approval rating in the country has been blown to smithereens. most of the cities are laying on their sides, the buildings are collapsing, it looks like a massive demolition site. they have not done it in kiev because i guess they don't want to shoot rockets. they have not done in 100%, if they wanted to do it 100% they probably would have -- it would probably happen very quickly but you have cities absolutely decimated. i would say that if they want a seat at the table, the people of ukraine would have to say its

been a long time since we've had an election. that's not a russia thing that is something coming from... ukraine is being wiped out. look at what is happening to the cities, there is not even a building standing, it's a massive... many have, percentagewise, have building knocked down. something that has been bothering me for a long time, and nato paid $100 billion into the funds of nato when i said you have to pay. because the united states was paying for european countries and then they take advantage of us entree? i have seen it. look, they have to find out where the money is going to.

i believe we have president zelenskyy said last week he doesn't know where half of the money is that we gave them your mike we gave them about $350 billion, but let's say the -- europe is giving us a smaller percentage of that, i think they've given 100 million and we have given let's say 350 plus, and it's more important for them then it is for us. we have a notion between and they don't. where is all the money that has been given? where is it going? i've never seen any counting of it, we gave hundreds of billions of dollars and i don't see any accounting so, i want to see it. i don't want all these people killed anymore. i'm looking at people who are being killed, and they are russian and ukrainian people, but they are people! and as a matter where they are

from on the whole planet, i think i have the power to end this war. i think it is going very well. today i heard, well we were invited, you have been there for three years you should have ended it three years ago. he should have never started it. i could have made a deal for ukraine. it would've given them almost all the land -- it would've given them almost all the land, no city would have been demolished and not one dome would've been knocked down. but they chose not to do it that way and president biden in all fairness has no clue, he was so bad for this. so pathetic. so sad. with all of that being said, it is what it is. when i left there was no chance that this could've happened but it happened because we had incompetent leadership at many different levels. when you see what has taken place in ukraine with millions of people killed including the soldiers, millions of people killed, a big percentage is not down to the ground.

-- is knocked down to the ground. he was living there? it's hard to believe that people live there, there cities are being knocked down and this is something that would've never happened. by the way, four years, it was never going to happen. >> how would you counter the perception, it would be guarded against russia installing a puppet government and finally, how would that new election have an impact on getting resident zelenskyy to sign the earth mineral deal? >> president donald trump: look, you've leadership and i like him personally. i don't care about him personally, i care about getting the job done. you have leadership that has allowed award ago that should have never happen. even without the united states, we had a president who was grossly incompetent, he had no

idea what he was doing. he said stupid things like going in for portions, he made that statement. he's incompetent. i think everybody knew that. this is something that should have never happened, it would've never haven't and i used to discuss it with president putin. it was the apple of his i've but it was never a chance of him going and i told him, you better not go in. don't go in! he understood that and he understood it fully. i am only interested, i want to see if i can save millions of lives, this could end up in a world war iii. all of a sudden you will end up in world war iii. over something that should have never happened. it's a very sad situation. >> in a court filing the white house said... >> will: that was president trump taking questions, we are going to step away and we have a big

interviews we want to get to you today. it's always a difficult decision with the cover but we will keep our minds and ears on that press conference bringing you anything notable that comes from that. but, we are going to move this afternoon. president trump was talking about a cease-fire between russia and ukraine, negotiations underway to bring that war to an end. he also signed an executive order in ivf pointing out that one and seven families are unable to conceive. he pointed out as well that fertility rates, and this is striking, rates have dropped 2% per year since 2010. that accelerated toward 3% in fruits -- infertility in the past year. people the multiple cycles of ivf's of the executive order today is looking to make it more accessible in a affordable for american families. again, we're going to continue to monitor that press conference terrifying video of yesterday's

plane crash landing at toronto airport, official today confirming two passengers remain in the hospital following the ordeal. as the investigation in canada continue so does the blame game. some of the left go after president trump and elon musk or it. >> this is a canadian air traffic control tower in this is under canadian authority, once it crosses the border. as you know, there has been this talk about may be staff cuts at the ffa as a part of president trump's effort to turn down the federal workforce. >> i have been panicking of all this insanity with these planes. there is all type of stuff going on, let's start with the mass firings by elon musk. >> if you look we're living in chaos right now. >> will: it didn't stop there, transportation minister asking the question, defined public needs answers, how many were

fired? what positions and why? in fact democratic congressman went so far as saying, since 2009 how many american airlines crash before trump came to office, zero! he goes on, so we thought we would dig into those numbers, with the guy in charge of all of this. he is transportation secretary sean duffy he was joining us now. it's great to see you, as you know, your boss our president is speaking right now and we are monitoring him from mara largo as we speak. i do want to start with some context. the number of plane crashes before trump, the number of plane crashes after trump. is that a fact? >> is not a fact. we have number so we look at it from the beginning of joe biden's presidency until today. there was 57 airplane accidents under president trump, there was 35.

there has been more high-profile crashes with the dca and what happened in alaska and philadelphia and now up in canada but again air crashes have been, but the point here is, we want to get to a place where we have zero crashes. what i have done its focus on how to upgrade the system. you look at what is happening, the airspace around dca, that was allowed to stay open under the last administration. inspections that were done to the aircraft that was crash done under the last administration. which is which? that they would come at this administration for the mistakes that they have made? and blame us or the crashes. we are going to fix what they refused to fix over there, over the course of four years and that is an admission of this department. >> will: that seems intuitive. you've been on the job less than one month trump approximately one month the first plane crash i believe, if i'm correct, tell me if not, i think you were on the job for about one hour and a half. when the dca plane crash from

washington, d.c., occurred. as you point out the policies, the inspections and everything would have been in place from the prior administration. >> you are absolutely right, it goes to the . of, let's stop pointing fingers at each other and let's do the work now that should have been done five, 10, 30 years ago. you mentioned doj and all the attention elon musk is getting, we want the brightest minds in america to come together and help us fix the system so, where else do you go but spacex? we have engineers going to the ffa observing and, they are going to craft proposals for us. how we might be able to fix the american system. it's not just spacex, we will ask everybody else to come and that is bright and loves america to help us think of the process, what we are doing is we're using a rotary phone. we are spending 90% of our money

to keep the rotary phone working from back in the 1980s as opposed to using cell phones today. we have such antiquated old equipment that nobody has fix, donald trump has set, six this system, make it work, keep people safe and make it more efficient. that is what we're going to do. it will take time but, again, give me a break. >> will: is that what you're hoping to get from spacex? are you hoping to look for advice and innovation? >> yes, again we want to phase an approach to reporter: and other approaches we can implement by the way, it's not just spacex. i put out a tweet asking for all great smart americans to help us and a number of companies have done the same but here's the deal you have air traffic controllers who are brilliant, dedicating their lives to keeping plane separated and safe. they are working in this antiquated equipment, they want

us to fix it for them. they want the new system that makes it easier for them to do their job. >> will: speaking of air traffic controllers i want to ask you about this. i believe, 100 firings from the ffa under the department of transportation, i do understand there to be somewhat of a shortage when it comes air traffic controllers. can you tell me about these firings at the ffa? >> we are trying to higher up more controllers. the critical safety positions like air traffic controllers and safety inspectors, they all were exempted but, there are 45,000 employees at the ffa under 400 lost their jobs and there was people who were employed for less than one year. again, less than 1% of the workforce was let go of the ffa, there was new employees. those critical employees that keep us safe. they are still on the job smack

again this is democrats trying to point fingers at doj and donald trump as opposed to looking at solutions that can help the problem. >> will: let's get more contacts i would ask you about the plane crash in canada. but that is in canada, that's not being investigated by you, correct? >> the ntsb investigating here in america, the transport canada is investigating in canada so i anticipate that over the next short time period we will get one -- we will get more information from canada but you look at that crash and, by the grace of god nobody lost their life. they were dealing with difficult conditions. it was snowing for a couple days, there was ice on the runway, high winds and this was a result that we had. again, we have to give the results from the investigation and learn from that investigation, to implement safety photo calls and make sure that does not happen again. >> will: mr. secretary i came

in to you from the president of the united states talking about ivf, you are not somebody you would necessarily apply, you have nine children, it is not seen you need assistance in building your family. i know you and your family very well and i have appreciated you jumping on with us today, i wish you the best of luck. >> donald trump kept his promise, he said he was going to do it and he did it. this is about making america healthy again. we have declining fertility rates, let's make us healthy and have more babies, make america strong. >> will: john, thank you. lights, camera, action. >> he was clearly infatuated with this place, you can tell how inspired he was. >> will: a legendary actor kevin costner teaming up with yellowstone. joining me for a wide ranging, that is next!

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>> will: we'll come back to the will cane a show, i'm really excited for my next guest you know them from field of dreams. the intangible and the award-winning show yellowstone.

and that is just scratching the surface. legendary actor kevin costner's here and he's teaming up with fox nation to bring you, yellowstone, to yosemite with kevin costner. here is a look. >> free-for-all, and everything you see is up for grabs. roosevelt, they stood by the fire and they hatched a plan to change it. nobody knows exactly but i think there is a really good chance that you told roosevelt about the struggle in his nation's long history about living in yosemite valley. that what made it special. some might call it ingenious some may say it's cunning, but boy does that have planned work. >> will: in this captivating tale, observing the american frontier kevin costner retracing the steps of president teddy roosevelt, you

took a three day trip through yosemite in 1903. it led him to sign legislation that essentially -- that began essentially yosemite national park. before an office he went to create 115 national forests, five national parks and preserve 230 million acres of land. joining me now is academy award winning actor, and filmmaker kevin costner. really good to see you again, how are you? >> i am good thank you. >> will: last time i saw you you were premiering horizon, here we are together again, you have another story on the frontier talking about americana >> the chair: this time nonfiction credible story, teddy roosevelt in yosemite. why this park in this moment and these men for you? >> we did one on yellowstone itself. while we all enjoy them, they are rarely do we understand how

they came to be -- very rarely do we understand how they came to be. it is a story about how men and women can make a difference through a force of well and we saw that in yellowstone. the documentary and how this guy , against all odds said wait a second i'm here to destroy this one, i'm going to find more gold. he looked at this place and said, no i can do that! we can do that. he went against the roughest, toughest people in the century at that point. copper, gold and railroad. he said i don't think we should do this and somehow beyond

belief, beyond the odds, he was able to convince congress and a story that allows him to go much deeper. he did change things and he thought he would do it as a young man. i think we have to believe in that ourselves and sometimes it takes story like these, that show us that we can make a difference. billions of people have now enjoyed these national parks and when you think about yosemite, sometimes we get the idea it has always been there. but no, there is a story behind it and it's incredible. it's rough. it does deal with two men who have an idea that they can make a difference and they did. natural beauty, spoke out loud to them. >> will: i know we only know so much kevin and you have an entire series on fox nation about this. we only know so much about what was discussed between

teddy roosevelt, spending three days camping together in yosemite. huge moment. what do you think happened during those three days? how did they connect and what happened in this incredible camping trip? >> he showed up under the guise of the campaign stop. running for office. and -- in central california, the politicians were already waiting for him. john had a feeling about teddy. teddy had a strong feeling about the outdoors and he said, he wrote teddy and teddy said i will come and look at this. but then teddy added, but i would like it to just be you and me. so when he finally arrived there was hundreds of people, politicians lined up, to curry favour. basically told roosevelt the unthinkable. with one single park guy who was

not even called a park guy, they left! can you imagine the president of the united states dropping out of view for many days with nobody following him? just you and me john. they were in tough situations. taking horses to 14 feet drifts and they talked and they had this bond and they began to plan. they knew that what they were trying to do, was important. they did not know how important but they just felt in their bones and a simple man who chose to look at nature for what it was, a powerful man who had been in war, was president, coming together and these two men reinforced with the park system would be about. the important thing for me was, we deal with the story for john showing up which is the native american having this country. they had yosemite.

what happened to them was a travesty. that is not very often, talked about but we deal with it in the documentary. it's to educate. but again, america found a way where land would have a use other than just exploiting it. that the natural beauty could be turned into commerce were people would come and what they saw was their own children. >> will: during covid, i took a trip with my family and we hit the national parks. we hit brice, the grand canyon and yellowstone, one of the greatest experiences of our lives. i did not go to yosemite, i'm curious. what are you going to do next? which park are you going to next? >> i don't know, i am a little bit of a passenger on this. i decide what i do in my life, i only have so much time. i felt yellowstone was right, i felt doing yosemite was worth my

time. we can replicate this but i prefer it to be moved by the story. they are all the dramatic in their own way but, if i choose to put my name on something i wanted to somehow make a jump for those who would watch it. where they go, i did not know that or i'm glad i now know that. >> will: when you and i were together last time, we talked about how many movies you have done and how you gravitate to projects that have such americana. you joke with me next time i will make a movie about apple pie. again, this weekend at the super bowl you said something about politics and audiences in movies and they don't need to be together. but the thing about art is, it has a value, it has a message. otherwise it's wallpaper. art has messages and you've done that well so, what values in the movies attract you? when you see a script and you

see a movie and you see values in the art, what values attract you? >> i think the notion of heroism when nobody is looking, is something so important. the notion of heroism when everything is on the line. and you are not going to be coming out on top as a result of that, but trying to stand for something. i think when you are a child or a young man or a young woman and you see that, you realize they heroism of a woman who works three jobs, you see her for in the morning every morning, at a bus stop. by the end of the evening when she gets home so tired and makes a meal for her kids she has gone to three different places to work. in movies, we can sometimes depict to that end we lay music to it and suddenly we know, it was important. suddenly we know who is powerful, who is a hero. a hero for her own family that

she would work that way to make life better for her children. the truth is when we watch movies in the dark and we see notions of people standing up for something when it is not convenient. but they know it to be true or believe it to be true, that says something. when i watch that i think to myself, that is who i want to be. i would like to be that and i think we can find those things in movies. >> will: cabin, you are a california guy, born and raised i want to check in with you, how is the community after the fires you know, we have experienced them up here in santa barbara, floods and basically, i have taken for families. i have a couple homes and so, i

told my kids there is going to be some families, some extended families, who did not have close in certain instances. for families came and stayed here, i have a pool, it's not a big pool but it was filled with children. children that were meeting and not aware of how much their parents hearts were on the ground. i had a couple in the house next door, two couples here with their children. and i have a little trailer that nobody was in it and somebody needed it. not a very big contribution but, a place to land for people i knew and cared about. >> will: that's an incredible thing, i think every little bit matters. i will end with this, i was reading in, i'm familiar with

john, but not as familiar with yosemite. this was said about it, he believed that you need to save the american soul from total surrender to materialism. talking about this connection to land, saving our soul from materialism. there's something about that that really resonated with me, i'd know the rising it with you about yosemite? >> we have these assets, we have these natural resources and certain instances, they have improved our way of life and for ourselves, i have enjoyed this interview so much. there is also moment will we have to stand up and we have to move on and preserve certain things so who gets to make that decision? it's really kind of an to look t

something, can we do without this? can we do with less? because these are -- this ocean, we just can't keep taking, right? we cannot keep doing that. but we have to take from it. so it is like we are so smart. we do need to be able to use this intelligence we have to make it work. and the desire to make it work is for everyone, not just a few. >> will: can i just say this, kevin, really quickly? my currency is authenticity. i don't care you are holding that speaker up and talking to that speaker and listening to me through that. i just want to have a good conversation with kevin costner. if the audience sees them holding that speaker come all the better, it is real. [laughter] i always enjoy talking to you, man, thank you so much. >> thanks, will. >> will: i hope so. "yellowstone to yosemite" with kevin costner is out now on

fox nation. some thing about technological troubles that bring out the authenticity in someone, to see someone fight through it, i promise you it was endearing and real. and now for a bit of will of the people. in the spirit of authenticity and going to tell you it was a difficult decision today of whether or not to cut away from president donald trump. we do our best to put together a great show for you day in and day out booking guests. like secretary of transportation sean duffy who i neglected every time to call mr. secretary, or kevin costner. it is hard to juggle those dominoes day in and day out, the unprintable element of will be here from the president of the united states? no single one person makes that call and i promise you we are not going to make the right call at all times. that was the call today to try to bring you some of what we had booked and some of the best we could do for you today. we will always put is a priority the president of the united states. things for joining us as we get to the heart of the matter from of the heart america. "the five." ♪ ♪ >> greg: hi, greg gutfeld on