i think we are seeing approval of most of the policies. 52 is not 60 or 70, but i think the public is cautiously being worn over by what he is doing, they see the comparison of biden, they like the policies, not everything! gulf of america did not go over well but overall, they are seeing a better comment and getting more optimistic about the country. this is the beginning. >> it's fascinating to watch, it seems like maybe 52 is the new 60 or 70 in polling because we don't see that many big numbers anymore. thank you very much, great to have the one. that's the story for this monday february 24th grade to start the week with you. i was you back your tomorrow, more of the stories at 3:00, will cain gets rolling, now! >> will: live from the heartland, this is the will cain

show within the last 30 minutes, president trump wrapping up a news conference with french president. the two leaders meeting to talk about the russia ukraine war and how to bring it to an end. today marks three years into the conflict, the world is watching the president trump could be the one to negotiate a deal. >> president donald trump: we are working on deals and transactions, in particular the big one is to get the war stopped whether it's with a cease-fire or direct to an agreement. i would like to go directly to an agreement but a cease-fire will always have been a little bit quicker. every day we are saving thousands or at least hundreds lives so we want to see we can get that done very quickly. >> will: is it possible? or on the verge of ending a three-year war? award that has cost hundreds of billions of dollars. just one of its costs for the united states of america. joining me for this breaking stories president of world strat

u.s. special forces jim and you and your fellow hudson institute, rebecca. thank you both for being with us today. let's start with the vibe. the vibe coming out of a manual and president trump and even the vibe when it comes to a reposition within europe, seems to be incredible -- incredibly positive. within one week or two trumpet have zelenskyy in washington, d.c., to sign a deal. >> i think he is quite likely to do that. i think the europeans have come to the conclusion that trump is riding high and this may not be the time to go ahead and cross them, it may be time to get on board the trump train. he has what he needs. he has zelenskyy with the deal, vladimir putin can use a deal in the world has seen enough of this. this war has been over substantively except for the dying for two years.

the front lines have not changed in any meaningful way so trump is going to get the credit for doing this and deserves it. >> will: these positive vibes are in contrast to the hyperventilating of that appeasement or meetings just between the united states and russia. these vibes reflect potentially our opportunity to get something done. what that is let's talk about it. whether or not it's a good deal. i will put it to you rebecca president trump first set europe has to step up, let's listen to the president . >> president donald trump: i've spoken to president putin and my people were dealing with him, constantly and his people in particular, they want to do something. my whole life's deals, that's all i know is deals. when somebody wants to make it, it's to the benefit of russia to make a deal and to go on with

leading russia in a very positive way. that's what you have to do. but i really believe that he wants to make a deal. >> will: rebecca, you believe? what is it look like? -- what does it look like? >> i think fundamentally you're going to have to have a real credible military deterrent inside ukraine. even if it's not close to the front line, you are going to have to have europeans with boots in the ground because russia is not going to stop unless there is a credible threat there. i am encouraged that the united states is still very committed to see a free and sovereign secure ukraine. i saw some reporting that states the united states, the trump administration once a free sovereign secure ukraine. when we have something on the line here, which is american prosperity, pc there is an economic interest there, that is growing.

i think the europeans are going to have to do even more than supply ukraine and enabling ukraine to have their own weapon supply, weapon industry and say europeans putting boots in the ground. >> will: let's assume that's what it end up looking like. let's take a look at the mineral map in ukraine. where many of those are found, trump says he's working on a deal to secure mineral or -- mineral rights for the united states. if, for example,, worst-case scenario, russia marched back into ukraine, one of the first things they encounter was american companies, american workers, american mineral mines. do you think that would provide a deterrent? provoking the united states of america? >> i think that president donald trump would not take to that very well. if there is some sort of agreement and of the russians agree and they understand the part of the terms is that the

united states clearly has a clearly stipulated interest, there will be american contractors doing some extracting with ukrainians. then, the russians will understand that they have to stay back. they have to stay at which is why ukrainian should understand, this is a serious american commitments, even though the military element of this is going to primarily come from europeans. >> will: there is the military element, there's also the financial elements, this is what it is looked like in the past. the united states has given $120 billion, trump in the press conference saying $350 billion we have committed to ukraine. you can compare that to the 8 billion from france. we are going to now presume that this piece deal requires a step up in the first, step up in commitment. from europe. everyone is concerned about a week peace agreement, we could meaning it does not deter vladimir putin.

what does that look like? >> i think any agreement that does not scare vladimir putin away from trying to expand his quasi-soviet empire is a danger. i don't know if the europeans can do much more to provide a credible deterrent by themselves. they are not going to up their spending to provide anywhere near the level of defence capabilities to actually deter the russians. that is up to the united states. the point about us being both our companies and our commitment to ukraine, being the deterrent, is the major thing. which is a great way to look at what president trump is trying to do. he is trying to take things out of the world where it is force and bomb or fight. what if we make a deals that provide an economic reason to do that and then he is going to do something similar to provide a vladimir putin a reason to think that there is an economic value to him that outweighs his need

to be the russian the big man who rebuilds in empire for them. >> will: that seems to be, i will emphasize, seems, is seems to be what we are on the verge of. do you believe that will be the case? >> i want to emphatically agree with jim that fundamentally trump has to make who in fear -- make vladimir putin fear him. he is a former officer, he hates the west, he hates the united states but he understands fear. it is ultimately going to come from the united states even if we are not the one most visibly on the front foot. the backstop is always going to be the united states of america and i want us to be in that position because it means we are the one that a controlling to the extent that we can in a way that is good for american

security. i am still sceptical, i appreciate president trump really trying to drive this two conclusion i think president biden was weak. unable to enable the ukrainians have a better deal, but ultimately it will come down to, does president vladimir putin fear donald trump and we will see that actually works and if president trump can enable the ukrainians to put up what is necessary to give ukraine the security that it needs. >> will: i believe you both with this, can have a much deeper debate. what investment in that europe doesn't mean about security for the united states of america? i look forward to having a conversation with you in the future. and jim, i forgive you my phone rang last friday. during the show. it happen sometimes. we were in the middle of a television interview. thank you both. a down day on wall street

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apple ceo tim cook met with president trump at the white house and laid out this plan. $500 billion over the next four years, which would include a construction of an ai server manufacturing factory. near houston, texas,, opening an apple manufacturing academy in detroit, hiring 20,000 people at apple expanding teams and facilities, not just in texas, but in nine states! apple is not the only major company investing in the u.s. now under donald trump. we told you about these in recent weeks. 100 billion over four years from softbank, 20 billion real estate investments, 500 billion over four years from stargate, 600 billion from saudi arabia, so a lot of money coming back home to the united states. joining me now to react is strategic while partner luc. great to see you. first, this kind of investment in america, these kinds of plans coming from apple, what does that mean?

it seems like a big deal, it seems like a further pursuit of censuring ai right here! >> it's a huge deal. it might be one of the biggest things that happened in a while, really the past couple of decades tim cook meeting with trump a few days ago is not coincidental. let's not forget like you said a few days after trump's inauguration we got another $500 billion from oracle, openai, others that were mentioned. there's a huge feeling in the air compared to trump's first go around. look at all of these big tech leaders going out of their way to get friendly with the trump administration. what has not been talked about enough of these infrastructure investments is that this, unlike anything we've ever seen on this scale, coming from private corporations in the realm of trillions of dollars being spent on infrastructure. and more importantly, the fact the government is not spending our tax dollars to build infrastructure like they always have. the fact that these companies want to own this infrastructure and spend their own money with

the moral support of the government, is how capitalism was supposed to work in the first place. it shows how confident companies are right now. this was flip-flop my entire life. it was always the government investing money into infrastructure, in expanding their footprint. companies don't go around $500 billion for nothing. that is going to fuel a lot of nice returns for this company putting their money on the line. >> will: of the obvious follow-up question is why? apple was not looking at jobs before donald trump does it have to do with tariffs? why now? >> there's a couple reasons for that, one we get a lot of the regulation the more growth in the environment, lower taxes business owners and consumers, the optimism has been rising one month before the election as it was getting in that trump was going to win. we have to look to the government to see what is happening, to see where to invest money or what is going on. you talk about ai, the

singularity point which were talking about which is ai. >> will: luc, i can do and should do a half-hour conversation with somebody over what this next tweet from elon musk means. here is what he had to say. we are on the event horizon of the singularity. i'm going to ask you, those are words that i know perhaps to some limited degree, when separated of singularity. but here we are, what is he saying? >> let me first say don't let the word singularity scary you. it sounds way more fancy than it really is. elon musk referring to the point when computers can reason with itself, program itself, kind of like our brains program itself. when ai becomes generally smarter than humans. i could talk for hours about the future that is on the horizon but the key point to all of this from an economic perspective. and what every american needs to figure out,'s how to use ai

alongside them at their job or how to use ai to help start a business. learn how to use ai. we are going through american efficiency or productivity revolution where the public sector is already becoming more efficient through d.o.g.e. the private corporations are using ai to get smarter. a huge outsized return for corporations, those are most likely going to do very well so what that means is a risk on the other side. the jobs! we don't know how many jobs we have now that are going to be around a decade from now. just like us all in my small town in ohio when new technology put coal mines out of business and everybody said they killed it. before we reach that point of singularity, everybody else needs to learn how to use of technology to make themselves more productive and basically replace jobs, once ai begins taking jobs you're going to cai get very politicized. some may call it to ban it but once the cat out of the bag you cannot put it back in. >> will: a lot to think about.

thank you so much. the singularity with machine learning exceeding human wisdom, human knowledge and human capacity. we are on the event horizon of that. in other news, i'm happy to tell you that the president of the united states has announced the deputy director of the fbi. it will be our friend dan! many know dan as a very successful conservative talk show host and podcast are but of course, you should also note before that, dan was an nypd officer. he served for the u.s. secret service under multiple presidents from both parties including bush and obama. he was an instructor at the secret service training academy. dan follows a long line of disruptors appointed by president donald trump. working with cash patel we can now expect we have a reasonable expectation that we will see real change at the fbi.

dan talked about this new position on his show today. >> how do you start today's show? this is not real. -- this is now what real. -- this is now real. cash patel offered this role, i told you you would see. i'm going to accept th, proudly as the deputy director of the number 2 spot of the federal bureau of investigation. >> will: i don't think it should go without noting, when a man gives a very lucrative career to go serve his country, it's notable. somebody that does not go to washington, d.c., to get rich but leaves bridges behind you once again, serve their country. congratulations to dan. the left likes to complain about

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>> will: misinformation has become aware that makes us all cringe, used in every -- used and abused over the past five ive years, misinformation is like all sins. here, let me show you some evidence of guilty parties of misinformation. this just within the last couple of days. president trump fired chief of staff chair. as well as five other top officials. much of the press is no calling it as you can see, unprecedented. the fifth secretary pete said that's not true.

>> think about this, the president deserves to pick his key national security and military advisory team. there are lots of presidents who have made changes from fdr to eisenhower to h.w. bush, to barack obama who fired or dismissed hundreds of military personnel during his term. there was six, channels that were moved into different positions or retired on friday night. that's of 160 generals. >> will: i believe the pentagon exists within the general department imagine that, now to former white house press secretary. all of a sudden she is showing concern over firing practices, this time calling d.o.g.e msc mass firings free. but what about the thousands that were asked refusing the covid gap. they were moved back in 2021, misinformation does not stop at policy.

critics calling trump not -- because he would not hug a black man at his history event last week. your it's a different angle that tells a different story. showing that was not the case at all. that he neglected a hug from a black man. then there is this, the narrative that elon musk left to stun on stage -- left his son on stage. here is the full video as he waits for his son to come downstairs. joining me now was the host of the out, founder clay, good to see you. this stuff is proliferating, and i have to say, thank god for x otherwise we would be left with that narrow zoomed in view that gives us a false picture of the world. >> you know what i was thinking about when i watch those clips is, the world that has been created in the wake of 2017 and

comparing it to 2025. in 2017 when trump got elected it was great news for cnn, "the washington post", "the new york times", msnbc, abc, cbs, they all went after trump. and tried to blame the rush of collusion existed and he was a fake president. a lot of this worked it seems. but look at where we are now in 2025 and i think what you said is so key, elon musk buys x and suddenly the larger context is available and what you see is for instance the very fine people hoax, it would not work today. in fact, what has happened is the left-wing media is a less trusting than donald trump is! i saw that trump is plus 15 now against the legacy media. and we got information instead of asymmetry. we have the ability to combat misinformation with fuller

context stories and i think that is actually an incredible credit to the evolution of social media >> will: i'm glad you brought up the fine people, i think historians will look back at the moment and point to it as a fault line that shifted us in a direction of the reelection of donald trump. the left lived within the idea that the actually called white supremacist very fine people. you saw this much of it, but when the aperture was expanded, and in donald trump's case about five or 10 seconds, but you could not find that five or 10 seconds in the beginning or it was hard to find. when the aperture was expanded everybody said, said the opposite, he said i am not talking about white supremacist. in that moment, it's emblematic of this entire age. >> i think that it's 100% right. what it means is context matters! what you now are getting in a social media is a better

contextualization because here's the reality. lots of people live in their own island of media and they don't get exposed to other islands. in fact,, i think one reason why you were seeing this, fox news has 70% of all news viewership right now! in fact hello democrats and hello independent. there was more of them watching you and me talking right now on fox news than there is on msnbc or cnn because i do think over time, you know how warren buffett is a great line, saying the stock market is a lane of module more than anything else and over time, you figure out which stock has value and you weigh them. i think the same thing is true of media. once you know you have been lied to, and i'm not talking about done one -- someone disagreeing about an issue. i'm talking about the very fine people hoax, when you find that you have been lied to like that. is very hard to trust the person or the entity that lied to you

and i think that is why msnbc and cnn and "the washington post" are all collapsing right now. because all of their lives finally are weighing mechanisms and the truth is rising. >> will: i think you are right. i don't think he will punish you for your opinion. to punish you for your allies in that support of the opinion. speaking in 2017, i want to ask you this because you've been over the story, there was a report that the philadelphia eagles might decline a white house invitation from president trump seems to be amended today. president trump has not invited them yet, super bowl champion to the white house. but to decline a presidential invitation, it seems like something from 2017. it doesn't seem like something we would expect from the eagles in 2025. >> i expect the eagles end up going to the white house, i am glad you raised that because we talk about misinformation. it when super viral throughout the social media ecosystem over the weekend. that the philadelphia eagles had rejected and invite, this morning i reached out, the

white house has not extended an invitation at all to anyone, they just one but, based on some of the behind-the-scenes stories that i'm hearing right into the nfl i think the eagles would accept. that does not mean every player is going to go, there are going to be guys that have scheduled conflicts. they usually happen in the summer before the season really kind of get underway. guys are on vacation, they are training, they have family obligations. but i would expect the philadelphia eagles to show up, this era is different, the woke sports era has collapsed and i welcome it because guess what? the reason i don't like the university of texas is because they are not as good as the university of tennessee. it has nothing to do with their players or coaches. >> will: that's a lie, people will punish them appropriately. always good to talk with you and glad you hang out every monday here! thank you. speaking of free speech, is at risk, what germany election tell

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>> will: conservatives win big in germany's election, frederick one most of the vote, is the latest right wing leaning party to do so near. he is already had plenty to say about the united states, availing independence from america. yeah, she rebuked vice president j.d. vance's comment about free speech in europe so where are we right now? are we making sure we can dribbling possible to protect it, not everybody in the world values in fact very few, like the united states value free speech. that brings me today's big three. while in germany, munich security conference j.d. vance talked about this fundamental value of western civilization. the united states should not be the only fortress protecting free speech, watch. >> the threat that i were the most about facing europe is not russia, not china, not any other

external actor. what i worry about is the threat from within. the retreat of europe from some of its most fundamental values, value shared with the united states of america. on the other side of the atlantic it looks more and more like all the interests hiding behind ugly soviet words like misinformation and disinformation, we simply don't like the idea that somebody with an alternative viewpoint might express different opinion or god forbid, vote a different way or, even worse, win an election. across europe, free-speech i fear is being retreat. >> will: back home in america, is that enough but in europe as we learned last week on 16 minutes, you can actually be arrested for quote, unquote,, insulting someone online. watch. >> is it a crime to insult

somebody in public? >> yes, it is. >> and a crime to insult them online as well? >> yes. >> the find could be higher if you insult somebody on the internet. >> why? 's 2021. >> if you are on the internet, it sticks around forever. >> of somebody said something that is not true and somebody else reposted it or likes that, are they committing a crime? >> in the case of reposting it is a crime as well because the reader cannot distinguish whether you just invented this reposted it. >> will: who defines an insult? you defines what is offensive? who defines the truth? we thought we would look into germany log to see if we can get more information that brings us to number 3. i want to show you some of what they are talking about, you are

a couple of laws we will walk through together. it criminalized certain types of hate speech, whatever that means. it bans incitement to hatred insults that assault -- that insult human dignity. remember, each one of those words is open to definition and interpretation, but it's being used to prosecute racist, anti-semitic threats and slurs. it can carry sentences up to five years. how about chapter 14 prohibiting personal insults from malicious gossip against private citizens. small town america would be shrunk by half of that going into jail. i grew up in a small town in texas, gossip is what fuels the engine. also by the way as a know you cannot defame a politician. bending distribution of online and off-line propaganda displacing likes uniform slogans, political parties and organizations deemed unconstitutional.

every single one of those words is the devil in the details. joining me now to discuss all of this is a journalist in germany! who is concerned about free-speech, the political correspondent. great to have you on the show, first of all, can you give us some examples like stories of people that you know have been reported in germany who have been punished or arrested under these laws? >> yes, first of all let me states that freedom of speech is enshrined in our constitution as well and we used to have a history of making fun of politicians. we used to have the chancellor, a good german he loved his sausages. they would depict them like a parrot's that had coming out of his head. a couple of years ago they tightened the laws. it's a very bad thing. because, politicians are powerful. and regular citizens, are able

to make fun of them. there was an old retired member of the armed forces, a veteran who posted online a meme that caught the attention of a media which is a mild insult. is not even the big of a deal but basically they raided his home at like 6:00 in the morning. they took his laptop and cell phone away. he got prosecuted, there was another politician a couple years ago i think this is the first prime example of that. the germans intend to take it seriously, people were criticizing the politician online about his stance and covid restrictions, some would call it covert authoritarianism. they basically raided his home as well, the lucky thing is, the court to don't always side with

people but, the harm has been done. what if somebody was to show up at your doorstep a 6:00 in the morning, what your neighbours going to think? that is something that kind of troubled people in germany's well. >> will: it has a way of suppressing free-speech wind stormtroopers show up at your door not just for you but as you point out, everyone who sees that happening. now you have everybody speech being intrude upon. you brought up examples the economic minister by the way has filed 730 cases of criminal hate speech. you said to me, free-speech is enshrined in your german constitution, in the united states we have a very strong protection of the first amendment. it really only bars speech that is a direct incitement to violence. i know that in germany, you the very comp look at history but, for example,, it's a crime to

deny the holocaust. i am curious, for me, the free-speech laws, once you let the nose of the camel into the tent, it's like from their there is no way of stopping the entire camel from coming into the tent. while no one condones denying the holocaust or something like that, it seems like that window once you start parsing, which speak -- which speech to be like >> i don't really think there is a spillover effect from that particular debate. in my opinion i kind of support that kind of law because in our history, the biggest crimes against humanity of all time, to have people run around with the salutes, it doesn't sit well but if you go back and watch the commerce secretary, basically they turn this into a business so there is a company or even

multiple companies that basically uses ai scan the internet for insults and basically go to politicians and say, hey,, do you want to sue this guy? i'm wondering, how an insult, even if it's perceived that an insult to something subjective, you have to be aware of it. if you are not aware of what somebody post on the internet and you go, you don't feel insulted because you are only made aware of that insult because of what is happening. you mentioned the election earlier, a more conservative government, things may change a little bit because the commerce secretary as mentioned earlier, she had a couple of hundred people sued as well. they both are from a more liberal party. that will be the next government so, these things might change a little bit but i'm concerned as well because in the cbs piece that you showed earlier, somebody basically said that because of insults and the internet people don't want to

post their opinions on line anymore because they are afraid of hate speech. i'm wondering about the people that don't voice their opinion anymore because they are afraid of getting sued because of calling someone an idiot and is just basically, politicians trying to make sure that you cannot criticize them and if you are a regular person who's not -- who does not have the knowledge of the law you wouldn't know what you can post and what you cannot post. if you more -- if you are more of a person with knowledge, you are going to get less bothered. this is what i find concerning from a cost perspective. >> will: let's hope that this new government who has had harsh things to say about j.d. van's, we hope for your sake in germany, it ends up on the right side of this issue. thank you so much for being with us in germany. the clock is winding down federal workers have until midnight to report what they did at work last week.

>> will: seven hours to a midnight deadline, federal workers were told to email the office of personnel management. five bullet points of what they accomplished over the last week. elon musk posted if they didn't it would be taken as a sign of a resignation but there is no mandate that anyone be fired if they didn't respond. why do democrats hate d.o.g.e. so much? my next guest lays it out so perfectly. watch. bigelow bothers these people most is that trump is taking with her biggest power play. the political establishment has operated on appeals to authority even during trump's first term. that was their argument for russian collusion, against hunter biden's laptop or staying inside her staying 6 feet apart for two years. their arguments reduced to because unelected bureaucrats said so. leftists love this stuff. their security blanket, emotional support bureaucracy.

the problem is that trump is clearing them out. they are not experts, they're just unemployed. they have to frame trump's government at some outside force separate from the old government, the one that we should trust. i don't see how they can stop the purge. explaining on tv is going to do much. they might as will be doing interpretive dance in front of the kennedy center. >> will: joining me is wade stotts, host of the wage show. it's another great explanation you have provided of the freak out. their dedication to bureaucracy and what's fascinating is what you laid out, it's acknowledgment on their behalf that they believe the democratically elected government is the shadow government and the permanent bureaucratic government, that's the real government. >> absolutely. i sighed democratic congressman say if this was -- if you are to ignore the email it was a nice occasion for massively to mass civil

disobedience. i understand why some of the agencies, kash patel and tulsi gabbard said their people should hold off. a lot of the time these legitimate concerns of her are used as cover for the bad guys who've been hiding in the government for a long time. the idea of good guys who want to keep things secret for good reason feels like a big hypothetical. the more we look into what they are doing, the grocer it is. >> will: wade, if you are mahatma gandhi is ignoring emails and texts, i'm the avengers. no one has me on ignoring emails and texts. i don't know, i think everything is just so rhetorically shallow as it turns out it's so legally shallow as well. these d.o.g.e. employees are federal government employees, the same type of people federal employees who vex the exes to

our private information for decades. employees who have had access to our private information for decades. >> elon posted that this eve evening. today chris rufo uncovers the cia and nsa have fetish chat rooms. it's not like we are firing john lake. when people look at the government, they have a picture of amazing people want to keep things secret to keep us safe. we learned and i think we're going to continue to learn how strange that it is. that we have learned from movies and television. we voted for a wrecking ball and we knew that was going to be happening so we shouldn't be surprising sometimes were not going to get this precise brain surgery. sometimes it's going to look like a big ugly hole in the side. my hope is it doesn't come between musk and trump's other empappointees.

>> will: they are beginning to win the lega as you point out, d.o.g.e. is an organization's been around since obama, just renamed. it is on strong, legal, governmental ground. check out more about on the wage show with wade stotts. thank you, wade. >> thank you. >> will: dr. kevin roberts says the will cain show featuring liberty whole texas while playing george strait, master class american excellence. a user is asking, you think you could do a whole hour? i tried today, no interruptions. how did we do? finally, adding keep up the great show. thank you so much, honey. i got your notes. "the five."