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>> will: they are beginning to win the lega as you point out, d.o.g.e. is an organization's been around since obama, just renamed. it is on strong, legal, governmental ground. check out more about on the wage show with wade stotts. thank you, wade. >> thank you. >> will: dr. kevin roberts says the will cain show featuring liberty whole texas while playing george strait, master class american excellence. a user is asking, you think you could do a whole hour? i tried today, no interruptions. how did we do? finally, adding keep up the great show. thank you so much, honey. i got your notes. "the five."
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>> dana: hello, everyone i'm dana perino with kennedy, jessica tarlov, jesse watters and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." it's the d.o.g.e. ultimatum. elon musk emailing the federal workers, what did you do lastly, ask them to list five things they accomplish that work and says not replying five midnight tonight will be taken as a resignation. however, fox news can confirm the office of personnel management has told agency heads they don't need to fire people who don't reply to the email and the nutritional work with the individual departments. while that gets sorted out president trump is backing up the d.o.g.e. mail by posting spongebob memes. >> i thought it was great because we have people that don't show up to work and nobody even knows if they work for the government itself by asking the question tell us what you did this week, what he's doing is
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saying, are you actually working? if you don't answer, like you are semifired or you are fired because a lot of people aren't answering because they don't even exist. that's how badly various parts of our government or run a special event this last group. >> dana: musk is brushing off the backlash thing this email is a very basic pulse check. there is outrage for a democratic senator tina smith calling musk a bad boss and using insulting words. others in the press were equally outraged. >> elon musk has zero legal authority to fire a government employee or force the resignations. these people don't report to elon musk. >> nonsensical email from elon musk acting like we are in kindergarten. >> it is like a make you cry more environment. trump and musk are performing
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for the maga base. >> the new trump administration is reveling in its bag knuckle approach to governing. >> this is so sloppy the way elon musk is handling this. >> dana: earlier today at the harvard harris poll said 76% of americans support what d.o.g.e. is trying to do, asking people to show it work. the unions had the emails crude and disrespectful. >> greg: jen psaki, michael thiel, clearly you're not outraged that your coworkers got d.o.g.eed. you just lost joy reid, jonathan kay park, katie. that's okay. that's okay because in the media you never talk about that. the email is a test to see if you still exist. this is what you do for the george costanzas.
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except bureaucratic bird call. i've had to clean house a couple times when i was an editor and you start with the outside in the end -- the on-site end. the criticism sounds like exactly what they said about the border. we were in crisis about the border, there was nothing we could do about it. you can do the little things but you can't do the big things, seal the border. it's too mean, too heartless, it's too insensitive. doesn't show any empathy. if you cast a wide net, whether it's d.o.g.e. or the border coming or going to get some wrong people but that's the argument whenever you are dealing with excess, whenever you need to cut any of the companies in trouble, they will always try to stop it by using that argument that it's inhumane. the only approach to reforming a bloated system is cutting it quick and fast. you make mistakes, it's messy. at least you can rectify it.
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not like releasing violent felons or letting troops die in a chaotic withdrawal in a foreign country. bureaucracies the area where you don't need a scalpel. a scalpel cannot keep up with the growth of bureaucracy. he needed chainsaw, and acts. especially when it is this dire and people in the media and politicians aren't telling you how bad it really is. >> dana: the president of argentina gave elon musk that chainsaw. when he first came in, their government was a lot bigger than us. he asked 18 departments. people in the private sector might have empathy for people losing their jobs but might be rolling your eyes at the suggestion that it would be cruel and disrespectful to ask for an update on what you did last week. >> jesse: i updated everybody on what i did last week. these are my five bullet points. i had a pretty good week.
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worked on the federal holiday when everybody else stayed home. win. >> greg: that counts as two. >> jesse: i made a brilliant and persuasive argument for d.o.g.e. dividend checks. cha-ching. i annihilated jessica. audience loved it. ratings soared. i hawked fox merch. it increased revenue $150,000. i hitchhiked home on friday to save the company money on car services. i actually didn't do that. this is what he's doing. generals, ceos, ben franklin. what did he say? what have you done to make yourself better today? what did you do to make your organization better today? when i see a request like this, i'm inspired.
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other people felt like it was demeaning. if you think an email like this is demeaning, you're part of a problem because if you don't think you have to justify your job and you think you're entitled to your job, then that why we need an attitude adjustment. this is what this was, an attitude adjustment. people need to be reminded the public -- they are public servants, they serve the public. they're not there to serve themselves from the public piggyback. piggy bank. the doctor they are circling the awakens around these bureaucrats, it is vandalizing them. you can't fire them? you can't email them? you can't make them come to work? this was like when uncle tony gives his dumb cousin a job at the dock that he does not show up for. he gets six figures, and no paid job. you can't talk to tony, can't email tony. no one can say anything to tony. he's privileged.
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it's now bureaucrats have more special productions than the trans community did in its heyday. >> dana: what you think about that tony analogy, jessica? >> jessica: i get it. i know about tony's nephew and how that happens but i don't gets applicable to what's going on. you know what elon musk did come of this directive was a good approach to it if everyone had gone along with it what you saw all of these trump cabinet appointees who instructed their bureaucracies not to respond. department of defense, department of homeland security, fbi, state department they all said don't worry, if you saw that email, don't say anything. he's going to save america, why don't the rest of the people donald trump loves think it's a good idea? >> jesse: if you're in the pentagon -- you could look at it and say i staged a coup in cambodia last week. >> jessica: that's an argument for elon musk taking a breather before he sends an email like
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that millions of people insane maybe folks who have classified information can't respond or maybe a federal judge who's going to get this email saturday night or whatever isn't going to be able to talk about privileged information and what's going on in the courtrooms. >> dana: i might just write back and say "see me." >> jessica: i'll get back to you. >> kennedy: curry favor with elon and the rest of the d.o.g.e. department, of course they're going to say see me because they want a little bit of face time. i don't think this is the worst thing in the world and i'm sure there'll be other instances where lines will be crossed, the sky will feel like it's falling. but this is not the time to bring the alarm and say that we just went from orange to red. we are not quite there yet because socrates, plato, the unexamined life is not worth living that i would argue there are a lot of government employees who've not been forced to julie bowen their work because they do have a sense of entitlement.
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you have to sit there and she grabbed five things you did last week two things can happen, one you are completely worthless and you shouldn't be on the government teat and you should be relieved of duty. or you're going to cover with a list that is so impressive that people take notice of those are kind of people we have to have left running government. there are critical aspects that have to be staffed and i'd much rather they be staffed by people who are competent, hardworking, and not a bunch of false budget plural cultures. >> greg: fa how do democrats think it work? romantic companies. women running a small boutique. everything is designed with a scalpel.
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>> jessica: you think bill gates doesn't know how to run a business or warren buffett doesn't know how to run a business? you said democrats don't know how this works. >> dana: there's nobody -- i shouldn't say nobody. biden, kamala harris. the private sector. >> dana: , harris resurfaces for an award as democrats scramble for a new leader to guide them out of the wild wilderness. ♪ ♪ that the pregnancy test that i was holding was positive. it was so beyond the feeling of anxiety or of overwhelm. i just fell to my knees and i just said, god, you have to take this. and that was one of the first time in a few months that i opened up hallow. i surrendered everything to jesus. and i heard clearly these words.
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>> jesse: democrats refusing to unburden themselves from the losers who got them shellacked at the ballot box. kamala harris receiving the prestigious chairman's prize at the naacp image awards. going back to her tired trump-bashing routine. >> some see the flames on our horizons, the rising waters in our cities, the shadows gathering over our democracy and to ask what do we do now? but we know it exactly what to do because we have done it before and we will do it again. >> jesse: when you've got no message, what else can you do, no wonder why james carville is trying to give liberals hope that all they have to do is sit back and hope president trump will employ them.
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>> i believe this administration in less than 30 days in the midst of a massive collapse. particularly of collapse in public opinion. it's going to be easy pickens in six weeks. just lay back. i think house democrats, this is going to shock a lot of people think they know exactly what they are doing and exactly what's going to happen. kamala think that's a good strategy, jessica, to sit back and wait for trump to implode? >> i think it's better than standing outside the department of education singing. i think that's a better approach. they are not just sitting back and waiting. they are talking about what's actually going on, talking about the d.o.g.e. cuts, people towards "the wall street journal" analysis, 55 billion in cuts. exactly 2.6 billion and we looked under the hood of those and they are doing things like cutting clinical trials for alzheimer's. the 9/11 health fund.
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>> dana: restored. >> jessica: after -- okay. and that to the list of things elon musk could have waited five seconds to do we could be in a better place. >> greg: made mistakes and then fixed it. listen to the little lady, jessica. >> jessica: people are parading around these massive numbers in the numbers are smaller and what really matters in all of this and the democrats are hammering it is that in the bill the republicans are putting forward there will be $880 billion cut to medicaid and you see republicans all over the country and no, jesse, these are not plants showing up in their town halls. >> jesse: i never said that. >> dana: you are about to. [laughter] >> jesse: i headed you off. they were people who worked at the cdc. people are showing up in oklahoma, arkansas, pennsylvania, missouri, wisconsin, they are saying what's going on in d.o.g.e. is an acceptable and are you kidding me with these medicaid
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cuts? >> dana: you listened to the voters. it's like the first time you listened to the voters. >> jessica: we are trying. >> jesse: jessica was saying we are not cutting enough? >> dana: what she was saying is we should if he double it. just kidding. here's the other thing that's happening, if you look at the people out there communicating, james carville is on tv a lot people. people might say the least he was the one saint democrats, you're losing the working class, you are losing men. he wrote an op-ed saying kamala harris was going to win by a landslide. so when he says the trump administration's going to implode in 30 days, i think we can take that for what it's worth. also this past week in "the new york times," there was a huge profile about senator chris murphy saying he's a breakthrough and he is so refreshing and so great.
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the guy acts like the election never happen, still talking about hitler and the constitutional crisis in republicans and billionaires and fascism. it's obviously not what happened and they are spiraling. >> jesse: greg, were you surprised you didn't receive the naacp image award? >> greg: i have done so much work. he thought the letter and stood for nanny. but james carville is right, it's the best strategy, i hope the democrats don't listen and embarrass themselves because who is more likely to get hit by a car? some guy sitting on the couch eating popcorn or a guy going outside to run? a guy running. the republicans are in power, they are playing in traffic so sooner or later something's going to happen. the odds are something will happen. it might be a catastrophe, might not. dems have to sit back and hope their pathetic nature draws less attention and hope upon hope the
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republicans run into something ugly. what's great about trump's he knows this and doesn't care. he's willing to take the risks, takes lots of risks every day. what carville is saying is if you are rooting for something to both fall term, you are saying it about america because his success and america's success are intertwined. as a populist who believes america first, america's priorities are in line with his so if you want them to suffer, you're going to want america to suffer and that makes you anti-american commie pig. >> jesse: does it? >> kennedy: spending is absolutely communistic. redistribution, which bernie sanders has been pushing for decades, bernie sanders became one of the elites, it's the elites and the party and the establishment that allow them to go forward with this anti-trump, trump's hitler narrative, which was devoid of ideas and they are
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stuck. they had biden and he fell apart and they kind of had kamala but they couldn't get behind her because they knew she was incompetent. obama pulling the strings and even now with this billion-dollar library, they can't even call it that because it's too big, he can't get donors for his big dumb ugly library because he no longer has juice inside or outside the party. the obamas waning end biden on political deaths door, i don't know what they have left. would you should have left is a series of ideas that will appeal to the working class that they lost when they will not give it to that. instead they are sticking with his anti-trump narrative and then it goes anti--elon and none of it is going to work and people are optimistic in the democrat party about the midterms in 2026. at this point, you better start getting it together because their entire coalition has been
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wife or husband, that's spouse. they are stripping the gender out of father. that is just parent. while we are talking will, bill maher is trying to smack some common sense into the left and their obsession with trans issues could spell more wreckage for the democrats. >> really important surgeries people get for their heart and they go wrong and somebody dies and nobly says we must stop the cardiologist. nobody stops we must -- says we must stop surgery. we want the government to ban gender-affirming care? >> you want every election? keep coming down on the side of parents coming in second in who gets to decide who what goes on with their kid. >> kennedy: bill maher has a good point. >> jesse: he does. just when the democrats think they have momentum, and jessica is fired up about these town halls. they crash and burn. i'm going to bring this up every
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day. they are against changing the gulf of mexico to the gulf of america but they want this to change it to a inseminated person? >> kennedy: they are trying to dead-name the gulf of america. >> jesse: are dudes getting pregnant in wisconsin? that's what i want to know. who doesn't want to be called a mom. way trickle raise your hand in wisconsin if you don't want to be called a mom. i don't get it. are they going to celebrate inseminated person's day? are kids going after rate cards in kindergarten? happy inseminated person's day mom. i love you. imagine your your kid comes home. hands you a card with a heart on it and they say the teacher made me draw this. that's what we have to avoid. >> kennedy: it's a little degrading. you inseminated a person recently. >> greg: thank you for pointing that out.
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it's easy to call this woke but you have to ask what open window to this call through -- crawl through? an alternate universe that antinature and it's not additive. it's replacing or diminishing another universe. so what is it trying to diminish? if you look at what progressive feminism has targeted, it's always been about motherhood, that if you see motherhood is aspirational as opposed to a burden, then you will, you will actually miss out on some kind of personal self fulfillment. it's better to see motherhood as a constraint and you can manipulate it with language. we are seeing the data that young liberal women as they get older aren't doing well. there's a profound emptiness that no political ideology is going to fail. it might be the role of motherhood. i'm not saying it is. but it may not be the restraint
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tool feminism thinks it is. when you see the psychological distress among women on the liberal side, it's nothing close on the right side. what do progressives do? they double down on language. they create more layers of subterfuge to paper over his misery that women are feeling because women are being lied to. you can't mourn for motherhood if you pretend it doesn't exist so i think there was a drive decades ago to eliminate the true power of women which his creation. it's always going to start with language, the orwellian nature of saying, you know, not having a family is called family planning. that's where we have lead. it's too easy to call this woke. you have to find out where it came from and you keep finding it and it all points to one kind
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of thing, you diminish a certain power women have. >> kennedy: it is the most incredible powerful thing in all of existence, the ability to create life. i'm curious what you have to say because you are a phenomenal nominator we love being a mom. i imagine you call yourself a feminist so you have an unique perspective here. does your lived experience allow you to offer some advice to people who seem to be getting it wrong and offending a lot of people who also happened to be democrats? >> jessica: my experience as a liberal who spent inseminated a few times is your just making a problem with that don't exist. there are real problems out there. reasons we don't use slurs and try not to use slurs against certain groups. i would doubt there are more than five people who would ever complain about something like this i don't know the statistics of the many trans men give birth
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per annum that i imagine it's pretty slim and that we would know about it if there were more cases. do i think you should make as much room for gay couples for instance, where there are two moms or doodads by saying that we are calling them parents or spouses, yes. but when you compel people to do it like this you allow there to be a much larger backlash and people are less defendable than you think they are. they just want to have a conversation. they come and say there are two of you, to what men or two women, there's no backlash. everyone is looking to have those conversations especially around something as personal as giving birth. there's nothing more personal. >> greg: the argument the you shouldn't do this because of the backlash isn't really an argument. that backlash is over something that's real. it is diminishing when you change the language and we watched this pattern go on for
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decades. it's not like don't do this because you're going to get a backlash, the address why you're doing it. >> jesse: i'll fix it, jessica. if you are a woman and you want to identify as a man and then you get pregnant you are a dad, you are a pregnant daddy. >> kennedy: a different category altogether. >> jesse: i fixed the problem, you are a daddy. you don't have to change the language. >> greg: jesse, you are amazing. >> d >> dana: you are productive. i'm going to take it from a different angle. i don't think the governor read this bill. i don't think the deputy governor or lieutenant governor read the bill. i think they have somebody on the staff, plenty of people probably, they are fine with it. that looks good, 800 billion, okay, let's sign it. they didn't know the fire storm
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double down not helping law enforcement of i.c.e. i am coming to boston and i am bringing hell with me. i looked at numbers. nine shy old rapists in jail -- nine child rapists in jail. you're not a police commissioner! he became a politician! he forgot what it's like to be a cop! >> greg: my goodness. democrat leaders in massachusetts vowing to wage war over the illegal immigration crackdown. boston is responding by posting "we will meet you with hell." kind of a war of words. he seems like he's going to war with deeds. >> dana: you have a city councilman who said it was laughable, we don't scare easily, that's what she said.
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we had an opinion writer for "the boston globe" on today and she's been doing meticulous work about the crimes and criminals there including the child ra rapist. all the documents she gets are redacted. you can't look at the information. guess who they are committed against? illegal immigrants. >> greg: only nine child rapists, out of a big city like that, who cares? >> jessica: a tiny population. no. hands off our dreamers has a good ring to it. hands off our child rapists just nodded. city councils are going to have to look at sanctuary laws in order to allow i.c.e. into the prisons because the reasons laws were designed this way were they couldn't pick up people who have
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their day in court. he had to be convicted versus just arrested and held until you get your day in court. there are some people on the left saying sorry, you should be allowed in. that's why eric adams is saying he wants to be able to open up rikers to i.c.e. is part of this quid pro quo perhaps he is engaging in. >> greg: i didn't know there were actual sanctuary laws. "the five" that's my eric adams is having a hard time. >> jessica: the city council controls those laws, not the mayor. >> greg: i should read more. >> jessica: don't change. >> greg: kennedy, you were impressed by homan. >> kennedy: he's a whole man, not a half man, he is a whole man. if you check those nine child rapists and put them in a halfway house next door to one of the city council members i
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think they would have a slightly different reaction. they would feel unsafe and rightly so. what we need to do as a society is admit that our immigration laws for better or worse are not working. it really is a broken system. if part of it is going to work democrats are going to have to come forward and say yes, let's get rid of the worst people. i would grant immigrants are amazing, the hardest working, they make this country better. all of our ancestors were immigrants either recent or generations past. the point is this why america is wonderful. america is not wonderful with ms-13 nor child rapists who prey on these migrant children. if they are not protecting migrant children it means not protecting the kids who were born here. and all have the right to be safe. democrats have to admit the bad ones have to go. if it's not it's not like to be
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i.c.e. than they have to do it themselves. >> greg: it blows my mind we are having this conversation. we are discussing why they haven't deported child rapists! the debate over illegal immigration but we are not even there yet, we are talking about child rapists. >> jesse: i'm not. i am talking about sexiness. if you are to do a charity event and build on the night with a bachelor. the highest bidder gets to take home the bachelor and it these women are like, a $100! >> greg: i have never heard this. >> jesse: it was on groundhog day. kramer and seinfeld. you didn't see that? if you had pete hegseth up for auction, if you had tom homan on stage and stephen miller, who do you think would get the most money? >> greg: i don't know if i want to play this game.
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i am going to go with homan. >> jesse: he has this understated masculinity about him. you were saying you are threatened by him, just then, you said you are threatened by him. i took that differently than threatened. >> jessica: i said pete would go higher. >> jesse: you in the green room said we sai should extingud city councils. the communists beer for the takeover of this country and if you could extinguish them this would be a great republic and i said we are democracy and you said jesse, we are a republic. then i got bored. >> greg: just like our viewers right now. >> jesse: i don't want to talk about boston. i have a lot of bad expenses there in college. >> greg: does anybody have good expenses when they visit boston? >> jesse: no. >> greg: i love boston. all right. up next.
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>> jessica: jane fonda dusting off her actress hat, using her speech to take a swipe at president trump. >> what we create is empathy. our job is to understand another human being. so profoundly that we can touch their souls. make no mistake. empathy is not weak or wall compared by the way, woke just means you give a damn about other people. a whole lot of people are going to be really hurt by what is happening. even if they are of a different political persuasion, we need to call upon our empathy and not judge but listen from our he hearts. >> jessica: greg, you are telling me the green room that you are happy that jane used the speech you wrote for her. >> greg: i was very pleased, touched. i was talk about load-bearing phrases. transphobia, fascism, hitler,
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lefties use it and they don't have an argument. it could happen with the word "walk-through" ever but he keeps saying that so woke, so well, so whoa, you're to figure out what she's talking about. what she means when she says woke? she's talking about compassion, she hasn't reached a point where she's been able to realize that compassion has been gained. in a liberal setting, anything can be accepted. she is describing wokeness as empathy and caring but the policies she talks about exist in a city plagued by homelessness, drug addiction, crime, devastation by preventable disasters, all of these were dictated or caused by policies you might call woke. i don't know. i'm trying to find the difference between a
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compassionate progressive and one that isn't. what would it be like? if that's compassion -- >> jessica: greg touches on something nick kristof wrote about in "the new york times" where he -- a mea culpa for being too compassionate of a liberal. >> g >> dana: what she said is being woke just means caring about other people. what i think it actually means is caring about what other people say about what they care about. and demanding that everyone feel the same exact way and if you don't express it in the same exact way when you are cancelable. that's what the objection was and why i think it's important to keep the language clean to understand what we are talking about. i like her dress. her hair, i would do something
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different. >> jesse: i agree with dana. she looks amazing. you made a great point that you used compassion as a social credit, that's what they really care because they care what other people think about how much they care that makes them feel good to care so much but also to greg's point compassion means nothing without competence. you can feel compassion for homeless people and drug addicts and migrants but if your policies make their problems worse, that's not compassionate. >> greg: she didn't mention the fires, where's the compassion about the fires question or she could talk about that. >> jesse: compassion is caring so much that you have water in the hydrants. >> kennedy: don't get me started. to greg's point what is compassion without empathy? what is progressivism without empathy? communism. she was a big commie sympathizer and sat on an antiaircraft gun
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and called american soldiers in vietnam cowers and baby killers and i will never ever forgive her for that. i have family members who served honorably in vietnam, they were big fans of hers before that and never again. i don't blame them and i hate that she has a platform. i think they are empty words. so many people have been harmed by progressivism which is just lipstick on a communistic pig. >> greg: you were in vietnam, weren't you, just a question mark. >> jesse: i served honorably. >> jessica: "one more thing" is up next. ♪ ♪ y. you might not know performance and durability go along with it. we test. and then we test again. now it's time to put us to the test. whatever you do, do it for less at harbor freight. (♪) baby: liberty! mom: liberty mutual is all she talks about since we saved hundreds by bundling our home and auto insurance.
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somebody was keeping a goat up there. rescuers used lettuce to lure him to safety. can you imagine as a firefighter you are thinking that's not exactly what i thought i would be doing. so when they get the email from elon musk, they can say i rescued a goat off the fifth floor ledge of an apartment building in madrid. greg? >> greg: that's -- whoever the spouse walked in on was very a close call. get the goat out of here. all right. [laughter] >> greg: come on, everybody. we know what was going on in there. crazy things in spain. >> jesse: you sound like me. >> greg: time to move on. oh, tonight. tom shillue, michele tafoya, dr. drew, tonight. let's do this greg's sexy sea lion news. let's do this. let's do this sea lion, when
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he's in the mood he likes to do twirls that let you know is he ready for loving. that's right. he is looking for the perfect manatee. most definitely. the whole manatee. tom homanity. oh the tom homanity. >> jesse: i can't follow that i have a shark not that sexy. ever wonder what it's like to be eaten by the shark. stick it right inside hesitate mouth called tonsil cam. he spit it out. and tonight, "jesse watters primetime," inside the deep state's secret sex chat. is there a goat? >> dana: that's it for us. have great night. >> bret: dana, thank you. welcome to the blair house. right across from the white house. home to
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