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♪ ♪ >> hello, this is "outnumbered." i'm kayleigh mcenany here with my cohosts harris faulkner and emily compagno. also joining us for the first time on the couch, caroline downey, national review staff writer and a senior fellow at the independent women's forum. welcome. and david esmond, fox business anchor. it's not your first time. [laughter] all right, well instead of laying out a vision for america, which is what any political party should be doing, democrats are trying to take down president trump. they are roasted for us and that. you will remember -- trump as if the threat democracy. >> it should be clear that he is a threat to democracy. >> threat to our democracy. >> threat to our democracy. >> threat he poses to our democracy. speak about then, that threats to democracy won the presidential race, so next, democrats declared we were on the verge of a constitutional
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crisis. >> by definition, are we in a constitutional crisis? >> dangerously close to a constitutional crisis. >> constitutional crisis. >> constitutional crisis. >> constitutional crisis. >> that did not stick. democrats through that talking point out the window. they found a new one: trump is chaos. >> cnn -- at the white house. with more on this chaos, confusion. >> this is about causing chaos. >> chaos. >> chaos on the american people. >> voters appear to like this so called chaos. look at this. this new survey shows president trump with a 52% approval rating, after his first month back in office. that is majority support. trump also has strong support in key voting blocs.
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45% of independents, 47% of women, 50% of hispanics, 50% suburbanites all approve more than disapprove of president trump. not so bad for chaos. emily, when you drill down on these numbers, they are fascinating. and want to pull out biden/trump comparison. first month of charm, last four years of biden. trump is winning on the economy by 11, immigration by 22. i'd love to meet the 34% that think biden did a better job on immigration. winning by ten on foreign affairs despite the media criticism, nine on administering governments, 11 inflation. i will take that scorecard. >> the reaction the mainstream media is exciting is their own. it's like when you lift up a rock, the ants scatter and freak out. the chaos is not coming from the top. was coming from the top is the mandate and execution of the mandate, the american people, and totally clear, frankly very
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concise directives that are constitutional. it is the reaction, the huffing, though freak out. i saw this during my time is a federal attorney, were simple mandates -- they kept the lights on. if all of a sudden there was a demand by congress for an increase in productivity, you should've seen the freak out. "we need to go the best results." no, we need to pump that i'll. you are not pumping out a jag wire. it's time to do your job. the fact that the lockstep verbal language -- changing, and that goes to show you what other trash is responsive. >> calling for retreat. listen. so, we don't have a sound, but we do have the text. we will read it to you.
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only "until the trumpet no session has spiraled into the low 40s or high 30s of public approval rating, percentages should be -- like a pack of hyenas, go for the jugular." "i'm calling for a strategic political retreat. with no clear leader, it's time for democrats to embark on the most daring political maneuver in the history of our party: roll over and play dead." the problem for them -- by the way, everybody hailed him as some huge political mind. >> really? >> except he was all in for kamala harris until the end and i think he calls her the seventh string quarterback. he will be waiting for a long time. the numbers, 81% of trump deporting illegal immigrants, 76% funding fraud and abuse, 69% on banning biological men in girls sports. look at these. it's hard for any politician to get to 50. these are the trump policies. >> i think ants scatter and have a lot more common sense than either the democrats who are screaming carful, or their echo
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chamber in the media. remembered, rush limbaugh used to say years ago that she is talk about the symbiosis between the media echo chamber in the democrats. now it's begun to catch up with those in the media -- not quite as reliable. some of them are being told to stand back end. there is some kind of feedback between advertising dollars, what's going to happen on th their -- they only had one message which did not work during the election , clearly didn't work, but i don't think they are getting the reaction they are open for. from either the general public, which the numbers are clear and reacting to what they say, or maybe they are being pushed even more to the right by what they are hearing from the democrats.
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even the media has begun to give another look, the legacy media that -- >> the execs are because they are looking at that bottom line. >> they are looking at the advertising dollars and it doesn't add up. >> this is my favorite number i found. it's when you compare democrats by name and republicans by name. we have heard about elon musk, demonizing him, how bad he is. despite all of the negative publicity is that you see trump's plus seven in the polling, rfk plus nine, vance plus four, elon is even, kamala is negative 14, biden negative 24, aoc negative 14, schumer negative 18. oh, my goodness! [laughter] >> when you were reading what james carville said, and you said -- democrats need to retreat. i thought you meant like a spa weekend. i didn't know you meant step back and let them cook. they are cooking up everything, and if you wait too long, when will the democrats be able to reengage? they are losing their audience, literally.
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on the point of what they do next, first of all, shouting more woke and all things that don't work won't do it. i don't know who they are selling their stuff too, but it's the wrong stuff. james carl can say all he wants, but they need a new leader. who? it's not even hakeem jeffries. he is a ranking member of the house. he was asked the question, and he didn't say he's the new brand of leader. "here are my ideas, i hope they backed me end. i hope --" he didn't say that. he didn't take that role. who is going to be? otherwise, it's a bunch of people shouting their own ideas at each other. it's a pure mirror-fest at this point. >> that's the million-dollar question caroline -- welcome, we are happy to have you -- it's who is it going to be and what are we going to do? voters are clear. if are the democrats or dnc i would say "what are voters telling us to do" gimmick to the tune of 66%, they are saying "listen to what we say about trump, then act." and the 66% again -- "get on
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board with cutting spending those quotes. that sounds like doge. >> voters rejected the status quo, which -- if there's chaos, it is good, organized chaos. trump is being extremely methodical about him doing the democrats' chaos. he is draining the swamp. the swamp, for the longest time, was able to sit, enjoy itself, run the taxpayers dry. now it's getting a shake-up for a first time in a long time. what about the democrats' subversive chaos? chaos is allowing an unprospected number of illegal aliens into the country to strain out social services and cause crime that otherwise never would have been created. chaos is when the culture is split on the definition of what a -- chaos is when we are allowing permanent patient wireless -- into the u.s. military on taxpayer dime.
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this is chaos. this is the chaos that the administration was peddling unequivocally the ballot box. >> i love that you took the tales talking point and turned it on its head. you are right. about half of voters said they think they left the border open intentionally. half the voters think that a democrats. getting new video of a nice moment at the white house. the white house tours are officially underway. first lady melania trump announced their return following the transition of power. we are getting new video of this moment. it was during the first official white house tour of the year. president trump stopping by to say hello. >> i want to thank you for coming. so great. such a good job. the first lady worked very hard on making it perfect, and i think you're going to really love it. i heard you were here and i said "let's stop by and say hello." [laughter] you are very smart looking people, very smart. maybe someday, you will be here as president, right? somebody in this group has a
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chance. have a good time. have a great tour and you give them a special tour, okay? you are going to get a special tour. have fun, everybody. >> a treat for them. -- whom tom cotton, keith kellogg -- the special envoy for ukraine -- he was just in ukraine. we will get an update on where the foreign policy stands, and dame phillips, ran for nomination, democrats in 2024. he said democrats are a little focused on one thing right now. joined me, 7:00 p.m. eastern time tonight. coming up, the liberal media meltdown over a simple email to federal employees, asking five things they accomplish last
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♪ ♪ >> elon musk and the department of government efficiencies mass email asking federal workers what they accomplished last week apparently has set off a bit of a panic. this will be taken -- as a resignation -- that isn't that hard to understand.
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>> no one elected him. doge is a fake, illegal operation. >> acting like we are in kindergarten. >> it's like they own the libs, make you cry sort of environment where trump and musk are performing for the maga base. >> vendor trump administration is reveling in it or knuckle approach to governing. >> despite the backlash on the left, -- the senior advisor to the president, elon musk's idea. >> the last email that was sent, where he wanted to know -- you
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know why he wanted that, by the way. people don't show up to work, nobody works -- said -- and people are semifired or fired. a lot of people are not answering because they don't exist. people are wondering where the money has gone. >> people like this idea because you can say "we did." argus last hour explained why she thinks some of the federal -- our gas to last hour explained why she thinks some of the federal workers are refusing to respond to the simple email.
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>> outside of not responding because it's top-secret, i'm not sure the reason. i have never had a job where i didn't have to answer to somebody, other than when i owned my firm. last time i checked, i still answered to my clients. >> efforts to slash government waste. >> not very confident, he needs a lot of work. why are we -- the money on these things? doing that needs to be done. >> unpack a little bit, the counselor to the president. your reaction.
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>> first, nobody should have been erupting into hysterics over this. i'm sure that will be litigated in court. i'm sure the ceo of jpmorgan is defending this and doge generally. my mom is a wall street veteran. she was in corporate finance. performance reviews. employee productivity. with the taxpayer are affording it to them. wise the governments -- immune
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from that? >> i got my quote of the day: volatility plus turnover is the default. that is so true, it's how we do business. if you cannot show a client we were doing for them, by bullet points, you cannot get paid. it is interesting to see this private sector energy shot into the government. we need a little bit of that email that she didn't threaten termination of anyone. saying "what are you working on today?" that would have traumatized me. hakeem jeffries said it's traumatizing to children that this email -- give me a break. talk about overreacting. one thing about doge is that the polling i have seen has been mixed. some of it has been supporting doge in principle. i think people support the principle.
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now, with the administration needs to do is get the support and practice. elon musk and the team, which i love the energy -- is coordinate with kash patel, coordinate with agency heads. make this seamless. i see the liberal media taking the low-hanging fruit the few times they've had to hire someone and rehire. they take the low-h low hangingt and blow it into a new cycle. i think you have something on your hands that's very good. >> emily. >> when i was a federal attorney at a top ten large agency, there was a policy against same thinking over email. the concept was it was so inefficient, there were so many people, that i think he was a necessary. it cracks me up at a very concise, short email asking for specificity -- which as employees, we are legally entitled to specificity from our bosses, so why shouldn't they be entitled to specificity for
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mustache that that's being labeled as inefficient. believe me, it's anything but. i find it interesting that, as a private sector attorney, i had to account for my time in increments of 6 minutes. you could bill your client to six minute specificity. again, here, employees are losing their minds over the notion that it was also simply a test to ensure that they read it to account for how many are totally retired and checked out while still collecting our money as their salary. >> i think it's interesting that there is been for the nation now from both elon musk and the president about what's at stake. there is a second bite of the apple. they get another chance, a little extension, if you will. if you have not responded yet, you might want to do so now. they do have a little bit more time to do that, past last night's deadline. what do you make of that, and why haven't people responded? >> well, there is going to be pushed back through this for the next four years, a lot of pushback. every step that's made to
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accountability toward the government -- >> but why don't the workers have a? i get lawmakers. >> federal workers are privileged. the unions and private sector -- comprise about 5.9% of the workers in the private sector. in government, it's 30%. the unions are very strong. even democrats like franklin dona roosevelt was against public unions, because the client, to use your word, is us: employers, they are going to war with us. bottom line, these workers, the average it's $144,000 a year in salary and benefits. for that amount of money and the private sector, you would be accountable, as you said, for every minute of your time. it should be the same with public servants. >> if there is the so-called paper war between one side, and accountability.
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i.c.e. agents along with this message written in spanish which reads "careful with these faces." dhs spokesperson is telling fox "these pathetic activists are putting targets on the backs of our law enforcement as they shield ms-13 and other vicious games that traffic women and children, kidnapped for ransom, poison americans with lethal drugs. these individuals will be held accountable for obstructing the law and justice." this should not be contro controversial. it should not be controversial at all. >> it shouldn't be. wears hakeem jeffries? we did a segment on him talking about traumatized federal workers because they got an email? what about these traumatized federal workers? you know who is traumatized? any immigration official in this country. is not just what's happening here, these pictures: it is 2018, when aoc ran on abolishing ice, and said that these migrant detention facilities are
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concentration camps. those were her words. you know what happens to border patrol? this incident where joe biden said "you will pay." these people were strapping migrants -- it's outrageous. then a 511 page report comes out and they never did that but the president demonized them. then, you get to this. you think they feel safe because their wives -- do you think they feel safe, their wives feel safe, their children feel safe? these are the traumatized federal workers. they deserve raises for protecting us. >> and the reality is that all too often, the law permits certain wiggle room. it takes a horrific event for there to be a law put in place to protect individuals. we saw across the pond -- the state of new jersey, for example -- an anti-doxxing law for judges only after one horrifically had her spouse and child shot on her doorstep. the point remains that currently, federal law prohibits doxxing only against covered persons, with an enhancement thanks to congress nine years ago, for using the interstate system, that at the end of a
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mostly ties them to court systems, criminal investigations. you could certainly make an argument that this is all tied to criminal investigations, but the reality is there is wiggle room, a fine needle being utilized by -- i will not refer to them as activists, they don't deserve that label whatsoever -- but the danger is paramount. >> absolutely. a legal remedy is needed for these brave men and women that are putting themselves and their families in harm's way to simply enforce federal law. that's what they are doing. they are just going by the book. these activists of course, there outrageous tied to the ice rates overall, and i think it's important to know that the only reason i think the media is able to demonize and humanize these i.c.e. agents so much is because the raids have to be conducted in the streets because of sanctuary city policies. these progressive blue jurisdictions are refusing to cooperate with ice, so they are forced to do this in a public spectacle way in the streets,
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whether it's new york city or chicago, and they are allowed to make a circus of it, which is of course not what they are doing. >> well congress passed legislation to make sure that covered people will -- >> to the extent that it is possible. we were talking in the break -- andy mccarthy thinks it might not pass constitutional muster if they try, but they should try something. these activists -- i'm glad you both focused on that, because whose benefit is it to put up these horrible posters? the benefit of the cartel. they may call themselves activists, but they are essential useful idiots for the cartels, for all of -- it's like al capone putting up pictures of eliot ness all around because he is worried about getting arrested. is the cartels that are benefiting from this. it is not the activists. it's not civil rights activists or anything like that: it is the cartels. this is just helping the worst of the worst, which is exactly the kind of people ice is trying to get. >> i would have to think that
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there would be part of the law that would look at that as aiding and abetting. >> bingo. >> i'm not emily parrott i haven't on the closing argument, but i do think that my understanding of the law is that there would be. i would like to have that conversation. let's have that conversation. as cara white mentions, as we all agree, the certain categories of people -- as caroline mentions, there are certain categories of people we all have to look out for: judges, i.c.e. agents, others. i remember -- we have to do it. they are protecting the rest of us. they have families and people who care about them and those residents, the other ends of those phones. >> and the laws cover the families of the covered persons. they are not activists: they are obstructionists. up next, a stunning court decision tells parents they have no right to know that their 11-year-old daughter changed her gender identity of the school kept it a secret. now our clients are so much more than clients. they're conquerors and champions,
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>> a federal appeals court just upheld a lower court's ruling in massachusetts, handing down a stunning decision on parents rights. the court ruled that the parents of an 11-year-old biological girl had no right to know their daughter had changed her gender identity. the parents said the school actively concealed it, and the school district has a policy against notifying parents without a student's consent. the court sided with the school and said this. "as per our understanding of supreme court precedent, our pluralistic's society assigns those curricular and expertise to school officials charged with the responsibly of educating children." a fact pattern as i was reading through the case. someone at the school contacted
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the parents after the student said she was struggling with insecurity, low self-esteem, poor self image, and a perceived lack of popularity. the parents knew she had struggles, got a private therapist, ask the school to no longer intervene. the school finds out the child wants to change her name and gender and does not tell the parents. the parent finds out from a lone teacher who informed them. >> disarms the children. look at where we are. we are in a country now were hundreds of thousands of missing children who came across the border illegally -- we don't know where they are. a former secretary under biden, of the dhs -- was not too pressed finds them. you don't want the parents to be involved in the care, love, health of their own child, so you shield them? but where do you make up the difference? to have standby parents? where is the process for the
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healthy growth of that child? i guess we don't care about women, we don't care about children. when i say we, we are one country. if you want to divide us, i'm not in that group. >> "the protocol is an unwritten policy that allows students at any age to -- parents being notified two decisions with their own gender identity and" -- this is the school's protocol -- "nondisclosure, instructing teachers not to inform parents about the child's expressions of gender without student consent." no one, and almost every case, loves the child more than the parent. the parent has got a private therapist. they love this child. >> and the point is they are using language that sounds like it's a scientific fact, that this is the way things are and that the kid, this is because of the scions that we know, the kid was being misunderstood at the very least, or abused at the
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very worst, by their own par parents. they are putting a formulaic vision. the trans-issue was a solid fact that we all know, but what we know was that two and three years ago when the trans movement was at its height, they were saying things that they put out a scientific fact which turns out it is not scientific fact. a whole lot of things like that. bottom line is your point that they parents have the right to choose the way their kids are going to be treated in school. if it conflicts with what the school is teaching them, the parents ultimately have a checkmate over the school in terms of who makes the decision. >> the point of fact is that this is not a state court. this is the first circuit court of appeals. in other words, just one step below the supreme court. some of these judges are probably contenders for supreme court seats down the line somewhere with different presidents. here is what they said. "when all is said and done, we have the district court concluded that the parents of
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stale to fate a plausible claim that -- as applied to their family, violated their fundamental right to -- the upbringing of their child." in other words, the school gets to decide, not the parents. thanks, court of appeals. >> this is squarely unconstitutional and is also against precedent. i can't wait for this to be overturned by the united states supreme court. this court specifically said that this policy, this nondisclosure policy, does not restrict parental rights in a way that courts have recognized as a violation of the guarantees of substantive due process. however, in washington, the courts ruled that the parents demanding for the judge that a judge confirming that the kids should spend more time with her grandparents, that that was an infringement on the parental rights. the supreme court as recently as 2000 declared that this right was inviolable and sacred. the right to care for your child. in fact, that's why decades ago -- that the court declared a
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presumption that a fit parent will act in the child's best interest. there are so many case law that really articulate and inform this process -- but at the end of the day -- such an aberration because it's an infringement on the parents right to care, comfort their child. one final point. that child has an older sibling that's transitioning and going through stuff. you want to talk about the malleability and influence ability of an 11-year-old. i think that's all you need to know. >> this point you made, that's why child abuse is taken so seriously. my mom was a social worker for years. division of start child services getting involved. that's exactly why. >> child abuse is really what most republican governors in this country admit that these child -- and it begins with social transition in the classroom with
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the teacher. which they will probably grow out of if the parents allow them to go through puberty and not disrupt that their natural process with ideology. >> and we have had studies -- coming up, more awoke chaos in wisconsin where the governor is trying to replace the term mother with "inseminated person."
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>> the white house briefing just ahead. lots of questions from the press secretary -- for the press secretary. we will have every captivating moment just ahead. blue states continuing to pursue welcome policies despite a nationwide review last december. why are democrats continuing to marginalize parents when it comes to issues involving their children? a major bust in a controversial housing development in texas, where officials say illegal immigrant crime was rampant. why shouldn't federal workers have to report on their performance the same as the rest of us? i'm john roberts. joined sandra and me at the top of the hour for "america reports." it will be a jam-packed couple of hours. >> wisconsin liberal governor doubling down on a highly controversial proposal to
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replace common words with the new woke alternatives drought state law. for example, the term mother would be placed with inseminated person. you've got to be kidding me that my tax dollars pay for this. i'm so sorry for ever and in. the term biological father will become natural parents, wife or husband would change to a spouse, gender turns like mail would become person, and paternity would change to "parentage." caroline, tell me why the tax dollars are being used for the sum wisconsin because i have no idea. >> these progressive governors -- far be it for us to interrupt them while they are pushing gender ideology on the population. be my guest by all means. listen, we know it was toxic to voters at the ballot box. of course, most women find this offensive. you know that 7% more gen z women voted for trump this time they on 2020? 7% less once for kamala harris. this is supposed to be the
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women's election according to donell harris' campaign, but apparently they thought this was a bold strategy to go with. >> of course, hollywood ways in. they say "woke just means caring about other people," but everyone -- brett favre called this nonsense. >> wisconsin is a purple state. the predecessor of this governor was scott walker who was very conservative. 2026 is the next gubernatorial election. if this governor keeps up with it, he is digging himself into a hole. he has not declared whether he will run for governor or not. this is losing for democrats. they are on a thin edge right now in a purple state, so they had better get off of this or they are going to lose. >> maybe they should keep pushing it. [laughter] >> i will not quote senator john kennedy directly. did say this about the great state of louisiana. somebody is kicking themselves -- don't get in their way. with the house burned. to what you've got to do.
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i think that's what this is. or -- we talked about this during the commercial break earlier in the show. democrats are setting themselves up, they are all up in their feelings. they are not even thinking about future elections, some of them. hard to believe, but could be true. >> we are attorneys care changing the law has consequences. does that mean if someone misgenders ernest identifies, that they will be -- at misgenders or miss identifies, will they be subject to criminal consequences? >> they could be. you have these terms, but we have gone through, over several years, different terminology. cori bush refer to it -- birthing people. i love aoc. she went with a -- person. >> unless you're over 50. [laughter] >> my favorite was the cdc. they had a page that said pregnant people or recently pregnant people. this is the cdc.
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>> very blessed today. i just returned from something truly special that took place for me. in baton rouge, louisiana, i want to visit southern university a and a&m college. they invited me with other aiden terry's to witness something. it is an esteemed historically black college and university with about 8,000 students. i was humbled and honored to receive the chancellor's award for excellence and lifetime achievement in journalism. >> i would like for you to come up as i present to you this chancellor award for excellence and lifetime achievement. with our greatest appreciation. we hereby honor you, harris faulkner, in recognition of your exceptional contributions to journalism and dedication to excellence. the -- february 23rd, 2005. >> that is beautiful. [applause] this is such a great, great honor today.
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i share it with all of you. but what i realized with those journalists today, they have so many more challenges to the truth than we ever had in my generation the up and comers need us to help guide them, to show them that it isn't about how many clicks and how much you feel about a story. it's whether or not you can make it matter to people who are dependent upon you to gather the facts and give texture and meaning to their own lives. meeting with the journalism students come of the nursing students, the rotc students, because i think there are nine or ten generals that have come out of southern university. hbu system itself. my father was one of the officers. >> that's what i learned about you. i didn't know your father went to an hbcu. and i love that they had harris faulkner day. what a special moment. we were just cheering you on. >> thank you. that was a shocker. when the house representatives
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and a senator from the state senate came up and declared it was harris faulkner day, it was everything i had not to cry. >> and you danced. [laughter] that was good. >> these are a big thing in louisiana. if there is something happening, there is a band. this is the second line band after i'd gotten the word and they are celebrating. then, the chairman of the university comes up. he throws down the gauntlet on the napkin. what i needed were my cohosts. i need you guys to dance with me. that rotc, you went through a program. >> i would love to learn more. what did you hear from them? >> these are our future leaders, not just in the military but in our society. they are ready to meet the challenge of whatever recruitment they need in the country right now for a military. >> your father is proud. >> thank you. thanks for watching. "america reports," now.
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