to build deepseek still appears to be fairly large, at least a billion dollar capital outlay, so i really kind of think about it differently. with the most performance models that are coming online now, they are pretty transformational in the types of activities and reasoning and tasks they can do. i actually think the biggest challenge and the biggest question is going to be can the federal government, can the states move quickly and allow all of these different changes to take place? what meta is doing is a pro-government, a pro-business, pro-ai, pro-jobs play. >> will: i got to leave it there, ben, we have come to the end of the program and a big conversation. >> harold: a two, think you so much for being with me. thank you thank you for being with us today as we get to the t of what matters from the heart of america. now time for "the five." ♪ ♪ >> judge jeanine: hello, everyone. i'm judge jeanine pirro along with harold ford jr.,

jesse watters, dana perino, and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ president trump holding a blockbuster first cabinet meeting of his second term as he once again proves that he is the most transparent president in history. a new analysis shows 47 is absolutely smoking his predecessors when it comes to talking to the media. in just his first month, trump took a staggering 1,000 questions, compared to sleepy joe's sad, muesli 140. and that number was before today's hour-long juggernaut session where he answered more than 30 additional questions peered the president convening the heads of his executive departments and bringing along his d.o.g.e. tech support elon musk. >> we have a mandate to do this and this is part of the reason

they got elected. >> it is not an optional think of it is an essential thing. that is the reason i am here. and taking a lot of flak and getting a lot of death threats, by the way, stack them up, you know? but if we don't do this, america will go bankrupt. we bring the receipts. is this real? just go to d.o.g.e..gov, line item by line item, we specify each item. we also will make mistakes. we won't be perfect. but when we make a mistake, we will fix it very quickly. >> this company has gotten bloated and fat and disgusting and incompetently run. >> judge jeanine: musk defending is now-infamous d.o.g.e. "name five things you did" emails. >> it was a pulse check review. do you have a pulse? [laughter] to you have a pulse? if you have a pulse and two

neurons, you can write an email. >> they are on the bubble, wouldn't say we are thrilled about it. maybe they don't exist. maybe we are paying people that don't exist. maybe they are not around. maybe they have other jobs. >> judge jeanine: meanwhile critics of d.o.g.e. are getting even more bizarre. the media is now fearmongering about how d.o.g.e. cuts could lead to people to be eaten by bears. and liberal daily show host jon stewart got so worked up he drew blood. >> you want some information about the forest, may be a good to camp or a hike on or scared of players, you come to place like this, your local ranger station, but because of the recent firings, this one won't be open anytime soon. >> it would be embarrassing if it was a small drop in the bucket and the american people didn't expect we should negotiate for all their [bleep] drugs because we have already paid for them with our

subsidies, [bleep]! [cheers and applause] i'll be going to the hospital. [laughter] >> judge jeanine: dana, i'll start with you, since you were press secretary. over 1,000, i think 39 now, questions answered, and what i thought was most interesting and i am curious as to what you thought, bringing in elon musk into this first cabinet meeting, the earliest apparently in decades, to literally answer questions not just to the cabinet, but to the american people. >> dana: one, i love cabinet meetings. i used to complain a lot that biden never had any. than i realized why he didn't have any. toys the end of his administration, we found out that if he wanted to talk to thy about inflation, he had to have a scripted talking points that he really can't do that in front of the cameras. depending on what issue is happening, you might have somebody in the cabinet or a staff member or an expert, perhaps somebody from the cia,

in this case tech support, elon musk, be able to answer questions to anybody in the cabinet or present, make sure everybody is singing from the same song sheet, and that is what -- air grievances, problem, team meeting is not a bad think of this is the first one but the thing president trump does is invites everyone to see it, as well. they might have additional meetings behind the scenes because there are some things you might not say in front of the press. i don't understand what is happening with the curtains in the cabinet room. that really kind of threw me off because it is such a pretty room. may be the lighting was bad and it was really sunny today in d.c. or some thing like that. the fact the president has answer 1,039 questions which by the time i say these words and might be thousand 50, just shows you how different the previous administration was. they didn't talk about anything and if you go and watch karine jean-pierre's briefings, she actually never really

answered the question. she would always say i can't comment on that, i have already been very clear, we are not going to talk about that, that is an insulting question, never answering the question. that is not what you are getting here. they might not like the answers but at least they're going to ask the questions. >> judge jeanine: you know, jesse, i thought it was fascinating when the presidents are talking about zelenskyy and the mineral deal, and when he talked about the fact $300 million, $300 billion that we gave to ukraine and zelenskyy, whereas europe only gave $100 billion, but the money that europe gave to ukraine, they gave as a loan. which meant ukraine had to pay them back. the money, the $300 billion that biden gave was not a loan, just gave the money, like a fool, and now what we've got is a president who says we are going to get our money back, and from now on we are not going to be footing the bill for a country that is paying other people back but not us. >> jesse: yeah, we're ending wars and getting hostages and cashback. and remember he said during the

iraq war we should have cut a deal to get some oil. and that is something that really helped him during the republican primary. when he ran in 2016. i think a lot of americans agree that with this economy the way it is, you need a little something something on the back end. you know, joe biden, his cabinet meetings, jill ran them. and people are upset that musk is in this meeting? dr. jill was heading up cabinet meetings. he didn't have a cabinet meeting for a year, and like dana said, it wasn't a cabinet meeting, it was a movie shoot. you are getting questions ahead of time. the president is going to call on you at 21 minutes into the meeting. what are you going to say? it was pretty bad. now i'm grateful if i was one of these cabinet secretaries that musk is in there because it is like good cop/bad cop. he is doing all of the firing. he is doing all of the spending cuts. he is like the bad guy. you don't have to do anything. i wanted to keep you around, but

musk said you had to go, i'm sorry. and it works. and he doesn't mind taking the arrows, and that is good, somebody has to. smashing mugs for attention, even greg doesn't go that far. >> greg: he is daring me. >> jesse: the bears. >> judge jeanine: would you smash that one in particular? >> greg: i cannot do that to my poop blog. >> judge jeanine: the bears. >> jesse: when you go camping in a national park, judge, the first you do is go to a national ranger and asked, should i feed the bears? no. i did a little research on peer attacks and fatalities in north america. during the pandemic, we shut down the national parks and did not have a single park ranger. you know how many people died from bear attacks that year when there were zero park rangers? one american. we rehired all of the park rangers the next year. 4,000 park rangers. you know how many bear attacks? one. the amount of park rangers has

nothing to do with how many people's lives they say from bear attacks. it is ridiculous. >> judge jeanine: thank you for that. >> jesse: you're welcome. >> judge jeanine: greg, what do you want to say about the bears? >> greg: i am pro-bear. there is a nice little bar downtown. i will take you guys there. i am done with the transparency, you know? he can retire that jersey. the transparency, he won it. there is no going back. it is now about spontaneity. and you brought it up. in order for the democrats to succeed, they needed a script. they have to film the movie. but what you are seeing right now is an environment where you really can't live. you can say maybe this or may be that, shoot the bull, we can probably do this, i don't know. as for a cover up or a fraud, that is impossible to do. you cannot lie on the fly. believe me. i have tried. i noticed this was a change --

if you change in political action mirrors the change in the internet when it comes to information. it is so much faster. you can't control anything. you can't keep up. and it made me realize that joe biden really was dial-up, you know? he was slow, agonizing, undependable, prone to failure, makes a funny noise when you turn it on. that was biden. trump is basically we now have high-speed, fiber internet. we are like slow this thing down. asked for the critics. this freak out reminds me of another area where we moved from nontransparency to transparency. our voting system. the reaction was hysterical and hyperbolic, and it was all about one thing: voter i.d. and it made you wonder, what are they trying to hide? the meltdown over voter i.d., what are they actually trying to hide. when you think about it now, we are back in the era of common sense.

how absurd was it that they were making an argument against voter i.d.? the media and the democrats couldn't find one voter who didn't have an i.d., so you would ask, do you have evidence that this is discriminatory? and they cannot find it. it didn't exist. now we are in this world where we are picking out absurdities and destroying them. men in women sports. a porous border. we've got to go after the voting system. we've got to fix this stuff. we've got to put voter i.d. in because we were bamboozled with load-bearing phrases like racism or discrimination. it was all just -- just like this, d.o.g.e. >> judge jeanine: you know, you have to admit, harold, that it was incredible watching the president in this first cabinet meeting, and everyone was there. elon was there to say what he was doing, to answer questions, the cabinet member, the agency heads, i mean, the transparency

is really stunning compared to what we have seen, and trump said i'm accountable. the buck stops with me. >> harold: i think that the country, i listened to our network earlier, ari fleischer was the one saying we have to admire the fact that the president has come before the country and his cabinet is coming before the country. we had a little bit of this in the biden era but not enough. i'm done with joe biden. hope everyone can be done with him after a wild. we now have a new president, who not only answers questions, to press conferences a day, that kind of transparency and access i think people have to be excited about and we understand excitement in the air because of what we saw today. even elon musk being there, i still wish he would put a shirt and tie on and not wear a t-shirt, but him being there answering questions, it was quite obvious some of the cabinet members weren't altogether too crazy about him, but that's another conversation. >> judge jeanine: you could tell by looking at them? >> harold: i watched the whole thing, the present many little

comment, you could tell from some of the reaction, but look,, something you did not see the last couple of years, but here s where we have to be candid, also. this is the first month or two. it is amazing, it feels like it has been eight months, less than two months. president trump last night enjoyed a great victory in the house. congress passed the blueprint for the budget. one of the challenges with that is that budget blueprint they passed did not have encapsulated in it consideration for the no taxes on tips or overtime, which i know the president campaigned on, which i support and i hope he is able to get. two, the president's talk on tariffs, whether we like it or not, has unsettled things in terms of prices not going down. if we are having this conversation -- and we will be, about president trump, six months from now, and prices not going down, i would remind that today the department of agriculture, the president's own department of agriculture suggested prices on eggs would go up somewhere between 30% to

40% this year alone, the ground beef and prices would go up 10%, prices on cars and washing machines and dryers, that was not from egg but another agency, that they would go up, so i hope they don't. and i hope the president understands that today is a good indication, he is coming before the country. i hope he continues to come before us, and i hope he continues to answer questions about how do you lower these prices because of the end of the day, judge, that is why he won. working-class people said we don't believe kamala harris and joe biden have a plan. we believe that donald trump does. >> judge jeanine: or we just don't believe joe biden and kamala harris, period. >> harold: that might be true, but at some time, at some point, he is going to have to answer these questions. >> judge jeanine: well, i think he is doing a great job so far. up next, greasy goes the joe rogan route. gavin newsom is launching a podcast. pfft. ♪ ♪ energy is like a symphony.

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♪ ♪ >> greg: the liberal joe rogan is finally here and the added a greasy pile of hair. gavin newsom launching a podcast to go toe-to-toe with maga. >> we need to change the conversation and that is why i am launching a new podcast. and this is going to be anything that the ordinary politician podcast. i am going to be talking to people directly that i disagree with. as well as people i look up to, but there is an onslaught of information we take into let's take it to the sources that out the typical political mumbo-jumbo, in the first few weeks we are going to be sitting down with some of the biggest leaders and architects in the

maga movement. >> greg: on! [laughs] harold, this is so funny. how did this guy have the time to do this? it is not like california is running smoothly. they got fires, homelessness, drug addicts, crime, i'm going to start a podcast! we are going to start a conversation. there you go, harold. hey, let's have a conversation. how long do you think this podcast is going to last, harold? he is going to run out of platitudes in 5 minutes. i don't want to hear from you. >> harold: you want me to talk? >> greg: yes. >> harold: i agree with you. i don't understand how in the middle trying to manage an enormous state, if not the biggest state, sixth biggest economy in the world. gavin is a smart guy and has a lot of energy. i hope he is able to pull it off. that what he does is really listen and have a lot of people on who don't necessarily agree with him. in fact, i would probably have the first six months people who didn't agree with me at all and try to listen to them and understand and counter a little bit where you can, but figure

out why someone's life experiences that you think would lend themselves to supporting you didn't support you. as opposed to demonizing people, i'm not saying he would, but i think that is what the instinct might be. i am happy to hear he is doing -- i don't disagree with your first thing, greg. it seems like he has a lot on his plate as is, so i hope he doesn't spend too much time with this because i think the real thing is to fix something, to repair something, to reform something, and to make life better for your constituents. >> greg: you know, harold has changed my mind. i think this is a great idea. >> dana: why? >> greg: when you think about it, the problem with the democrats as they cannot listen to other people's ideas and they are stuck in identity politics and they don't understand the terrain of the podcast, don't understand how to make their ideas last. their ideas are built for a 12 person panel on cnn. like talk for 2 minutes and then say let's have a conversation. may be this is the step out of identity politics for they try to explain themselves. >> dana: okay, may be, that could be.

i wrote down what you need for a at podcast? curious, authenticity, humility -- not a lot of that going on -- and some humor. okay? he has a terrible approval rating right now in podcast. he is not -- everybody in california just voted against the crime reform bill, prop 36, 70% of the state went against him on that. his own national appeal is limited. we talk about transparency in the first block. he is so transparent. the only reason he is doing this is because he wants to run for president in 2028, and he things a podcast is the way to do it? i have one other thing. the graphics of a podcast, polos up, the light blue and the yellow, that's fresh, that looks good. then cut to the backdrop, he is in and all of the green study, fake study, a lamp on the side,

honestly, what are you doing? that does not say fresh, that doesn't say new, that doesn't say anything but maybe you want to be a psychiatrist. >> greg: that's true. it is funny, he is very ambitious. whatever job he is doing, he is not doing it because he set his sights on the next job. he did that when he was mayor of san francisco, looking at governor. would you go on, if he ask you, jesse, would you go on? >> jesse: no, he has to come on my show. and then i am not out in count point a lot and when i am i want to vacation. i don't want to work. i don't want to do a podcast. the downside for me is tremendous on that show. >> greg: oh, really? [laughter] >> jesse: compared to all of these other democratic politicians, he is doing better than they are. at least he is trying. he is trying to get out of that bubble. because the road to the democrat nomination is not through cnn, "60 minutes," it is through fox. he is going to have to do a democrat primary debate on fox news. he might actually have to do

exclamation. he might actually have to do this show. he is going to have to do -- >> dana: guests. >> jesse: going to have to do barstool. the old media game like you were just saying, 2 minutes and you are out, that game is done. that is deadly for democrats. look what happened with kamala, she tried it and she failed. i just like the fact that at least he's accepting the fact that his game is over and he needs to try something new. the democratic party has not accepted that, so you are right, if you do a long form interview, have to dig deep -- >> greg: you can't say "let's have a conversation." >> jesse: you have to know the issue -- >> harold: what's so wrong with that? >> jesse: democrats don't do that. they go on "60 minutes," they ask nothing, and then the edit it. or if you do my show, i will argue with you or i will just confront you or i will interrupt you, and it forces you to respond honestly. >> greg: if you are doing a

two hour podcast, judge, about let's say men in women sports, and he just goes that is transphobic, then that is the end of the conversation. you have to actually argue everything behind that. >> judge jeanine: right, and you know, the truth is that he is not a guy who goes that deep. he is too ideological. it just stops right there with the ideology. do you remember a couple weeks ago when the democrats were looking for their own joe rogan, we did a segment on it, and they had these media moguls and they were trying to figure out who should they put their money behind? maybe they ended up with gavin newsom. maybe they said he is our guy. the truth is when he says things like the reason i want to do this podcast as i want to understand where the maga people are coming from, i mean, how dumb is that? and the truth is that what he is trying to do is he is trying to be the number one got to run for president, and yet, it is not possible right now.

because the democrats are so locked into their identity politics that there isn't any room for discussion or dialogue or disagreement. they are just not capable of it. and finally, he already has a podcast, did you know that? he already has a podcast. and this is just like a rebranding. i think they should call it a fireside chat. >> dana: very good. >> judge jeanine: and finally, the people who are smart in the democrat party are people like fetterman, who say you know what, maybe we can do something together, listen to them. gavin newsom is all performative. there is nothing deep about him and there is nothing about us, it is about him. >> greg: all right, but he does have great hair, jesse. [laughs] look at that. nothing close. up next, i spy creeps. tulsi terminates sex chat

perverts in the government. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> dana: well, here is a headline and never thought i would read. director of national intelligence tulsi gabbard said she will fire more than 100 intel employees who allegedly used sensitive government chat rooms to have sexually explicit conversations and it was done all under the guise of dei. the sex chats or even too explicit for us -- >> greg: for you? >> dana: for us to show you. i will let jesse handle it. >> jesse: this one guy just had his manhood surgically removed. one of the weirdest things that gives me euphoria is when i pee. i don't have to push anything down to make sure it aims right. here is another. getting my blank zapped by a laser was shocking.

fine, i will just do one more. this one guy was talking about how excited he is that the bulge is gone and he can wear bikinis after his sex change surgeries. i know. >> dana: you almost got through it all with a straight face, almost at the very end. >> jesse: there was so much stuff i couldn't talk about and i wanted to talk about but my producer said no, jesse, you can't do it. so it looks like biden's equity thing that caused this. so he hired people specifically because they were trans or because they were gay and lesbian and a lot of them end up transitioning while they were working from home. and then they were talking about it on his government chats and they had no fear of getting fired because you can say and do anything under that atmosphere. they got caught and now they are gone, and these people put our national security at risk because you imagine you are russia, china, find out these people are doing these stuff,

you blackmail them. what kind of people go to a hospital, say doctor, please cut my manhood off, and then go back to work and try to keep our country safe? i don't think you are mentally sharp enough when you're telling a doctor you want to do that to go keep our secrets safe but that is what we're dealing with and i'm sorry that i had to share that on television. >> dana: judge, for tulsi gabbard, this is like a home run first issue. firing them. nobody is going to question it. i don't think there's going to be a protest outside of any of these departments. may be there will be. >> judge jeanine: a great point. it's a great way for her to start. she comes across as strong, someone who at least has a moral compass. when you think about this, you say to yourself, this is a total betrayal of the public trust. these are people, we are talking about 15 agencies, that were involved in this across the national security agency intel link. so it is not just one agency. why were these people so

comfortable? why did they feel they could engage in this openly? when they knew they were involved in sensitive communications, a and a job whereas jesse said they could be blackmailed. they could have text about it. they could have gone in a room and talked about it. they could have got on the telephone and talked about it. they decided to do this at work. if you are dumb enough to do that at work, i mean, how are you smart enough to work for any of these intel agencies? it is an embarrassment. good for tulsi. if this is what dei is about, then shame on joe biden and shame on all of them. but it isn't just dei. they celebrated the death of pat robertson, a televangelist. they attacked christians, heterosexuals, italians, and i'm not saying that because i'm not italian -- >> dana: italians? >> judge jeanine: they attacked -- they are just haters. >> dana: you have to wonder, harold, about the security

clearance process. >> harold: sure. look, i think these people violated the rules and the laws around employment at any of these agencies. they should be fired. i want to be clear, i don't think anyone, i don't think you are saying this but i think someone who the freedom to do what they want to do with their body, they are a good agent, they should be regarded as a good agent. my issue with a transgender is your kids playing sports and the bathroom stuff. >> dana: what about on the government phones during work hours talking about -- >> harold: i will get back to this. this is against rules at this place is, they should be fired. >> judge jeanine: what if there are no rules that specific way talk about this. is there acceptable -- >> dana: i don't know i would have thought we need a rule for this. >> harold: when you work for a company, you are not allowed to use your phone to -- all i'm saying is we are all saying the same thing. i'm not disagreeing with you. you just want to disagree with me. she did the right thing. >> greg: i disagree with you,

jesse. you can't blackmail people who are parading their fetishes. what are you going to do? i have pictures of you with a ball gag in your mouth -- , can i see that? but this is a symptom of something worse, where we live in a society where our self is nowadays defined by our desires, and we no longer think about how this affects the people around us. what i want, you don't think about your family, you don't think about your friends, you don't think about the workplace, and worst of all you don't even think about your future self. you don't think about how would this affect me a week from now, a month from now? you are a salve to yourself. i'm going to go back that printed media would never touch. former u.s. assistant secretary for health rachel levine. when i first saw the picture of levine, i thought it was a joke. this is the assistant secretary of health. this is a comical meme. a visual joke.

this can't be real. how can this be in charge in the top sean's of health? it's absurd and it's wrong. then you saw the policy recommendations. this is a person who said gender affirmation care was medically necessary, effective, and safe for nonbinary youth. hm, i wonder how that happened. levine said any attempt to keep trans women out of female sports was going to lead to despairing deaths among trans. so these are the recommendations from somebody put there. what does this have to do with the chats? i'm getting there. in order for public acceptance of abnormal behavior you need approval from the top. and that's what this was. you had to advance tolerance as the rule, and to do that you had to do it through the form of authority. you had to sanctify a behavior. a behavior by having somebody in charge so that you wouldn't say

anything, you wouldn't say anything, the other bureaucrats, the media wouldn't say anything because look, there is somebody running the health department. so the result is the trickle down from all of this, and i mean that in the purest sense, you get approved in the nsa, trans sex chance within the agency on intracompany email, sexual whims prorated because it's your desire, it's yourself peered. >> jesse: worst president ever, i think we all agree. >> harold: terrible judgment on these people, should have never been hired, dana raised a point about intelligence backgrounds. >> dana: greg answered that. because the permission structure was provided. >> greg: you put somebody at the top. i can't say anything. levine's charge. >> jesse: his son, hunter. look at his son. >> judge jeanine: yeah. >> dana: president trump has a new plan to pay down our debt. it is called a gold card.

we will be right back. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> jesse: get your golden ticket for the golden age. president trump giving more details on his $5 million gold card visa plan to attract wealthy foreigners and invest in america. during today's marathon cabinet meeting. >> if we sell a million, right, a million, that's $5 trillion. 5 trillion. no other country can do this because people don't want to go to other countries, they want to come here. everybody wants to come here. especially since november 5th. >> jesse: you love thiidea. >> greg: you know, at first, when i was listening to harold yesterday or two days ago -- >> jesse: don't listen to harold. >> greg: i saw his point. then i was thinking it sounds like it is discriminating against class. but guess what, it is not about

them. it's about us. it doesn't matter what we do to them. right? it's just america first. if we can get $5 trillion out of people who are going to pay it, i don't care if it makes some poor people unhappy. by the way, the rich are going to come anyway. we are just charging them. i think this is a great idea. it's like getting an easy pass to disneyland. fast pass. and by the way, harold, it can be temporary until we get -- we can admit, like, we can admit this may not meet your assumption of fairness. that like it's fair to the poor immigrant or whatever, but life isn't fair when your entire country is in jeopardy with a mountain of debt, so you can pay this off, temporarily. it is not about immigration. it is about giving our country, you know, a future. you have to agree with me. >> jesse: harold, do you disagree? >> harold: so i listened to the president today, and esther lutnick today, they believe we

can sell a million club memberships to the united states of america for $5 million a piee peered i have no idea how you structure that, what the people get for the $5 million, and let me be clear, do not get rid of that thing at disney world where you are able to get to the front of the line, that is a thing that is totally different, but $5 million per person, if we can raise $5 trillion and you put limits around it, about what they can do, the kind of rights, that they have super rates because of that, i don't want that, but i'm willing, i'm willing to entertain the idea. >> judge jeanine: what you said yesterday -- >> harold: because what i don't want to have happen is that a hardworking middle-class guy comes across the border, follows the rules, take some 12 years to become a citizen -- >> jesse: comes across the border is in following the rules. >> harold: when you come across the dashcam i finish? when you legally come across, you legally enter, you follow the rules and wait 12 years, ten years, nine years, you get there, he is contributing to the country, but we let a guy,

$5 million, i'm coming, here's my $5 million -- can i finish my point? if you are going to use all of the money to pay down the debt like he proposed, i'm open to the idea. >> judge jeanine: okay, here's the problem. we've got 12 million who came across who didn't have any public means of support, and the whole concept of immigration has to do with people coming to this country who are not a burden on the rest of the americans who are working hard, paying taxes, so that they can get free education, medication, health care, and a hotel, along with culturally acceptable food, okay? from 1996, bill clinton said, he made clear, aliens should not depend on public resources to meet their needs, and a sponsor of a noncitizen should at least be able to reimburse the state when we give them public welfare. and now immigrants have to be financially sufficient. what is wrong with that?

nothing. the $5 million gold card ensures that newcomers contribute to society. and i don't want to be in a society where americans who sometimes fit between drugs and foods have to pay taxes so that illegals can get everything without investing in this country. >> harold: there would be no statue of liberty if this was the dogma. >> judge jeanine: the statue of liberty if you get a visa, if you come here. you do not come here without an invitation. that's not what america is about. >> harold: you've made me go back to my original position. we are a country built on hard work and people and selling -- >> judge jeanine: and following the laws. >> harold: most immigrants do. making us a club membership, i like paying down the debt, i will listen, but i am not for club memberships to be a united states citizen. we are bigger than that. >> jesse: you're open to the concept. >> greg: we should take down the statue of liberty. >> jesse: france, yours. >> dana: this is a "yes," and,

okay? you can have a concept like this, already sort of exists in the law. you can have a concept like t this. while also, in addition, saying okay, tech companies, we try to get our education that is abysmal in order, if you want to get more tech engineers, you want to do that, you have to pay, i think a lot of those companies would say fine, we need more of them, let's do that, and can you say, for the legal person, the asylum-seekers or the somebody who can do it legally, i think all of these things can happen, and you get back to the thing i guess everybody hates, but what you really need, which is either you do it in one big beautiful bill to get comprehensive immigration reform, or you do it in little piece meals in order to get it done, but i think you can have "yes, and" in this situation. >> harold: but listen to this. don't assume that all rich people are just great people and poor people are bad. >> dana: how many chinese get to do this? that's what i want to know. >> harold: just because you are rich doesn't mean you are

morally superior than someone who is middle-class, that is what eye is objecting to. >> judge jeanine: waiting minute, we are not venting anybody anyway, now all of a sudden we're going to that them and you are concerned about it? >> harold: i'm open to greg's idea. >> jesse: harold is picky about who he lets into the club, we get it. >> harold: we are a great club. >> jesse: you want to ruin the club, i get it, just let anybody in. ahead, passengers are splashing holy oil on their planes. find out more next. ♪ ♪ baby: liberty! mom: liberty mutual is all she talks about since we saved hundreds by bundling our home and auto insurance. biberty: it's pronounced "biberty." baby: liberty! biberty: biberty! baby: liberty! biberty: nice try, kid. only pay for what you need ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ baby: liberty.

♪ ♪ >> harold: welcome back. the latest shocking airline headline, chicago midway airport. one woman was filmed running holy oil in the shape of a cross on the outside of a jetblue plae before stepping aboard. jesse, your thoughts on this? for those who travel, it's got to be a little unsettling. >> jesse: i burned incense on my last flight in the bathroom. did not go over well. i was handcuffed by air marshals and then escorted out when we landed. if you have some ritual that you need to do, do it. just don't burn something. i learned that the hard way. >> harold: obviously that story impacted you. >> dana: if this lady wants to fly on the flights i'm going on,

i will take her with me. i still think flying is still safe, and i also thank goodness for the pilots that were smart enough to figure out a way to avoid those last crashes. >> greg: i usually perform a right where i slaughter a goat. right in the jetway, it's messy but everyone is so grateful and they all get a big scoop of flesh and they bring it on with them, it's great. >> jesse: judge, what is your ritual? >> judge jeanine: i don't have a ritual. >> harold: what are your thoughts on this ritual? >> judge jeanine: i would have expected on spirit airlines. [laughter] >> dana: very good. >> greg: spirit air. >> harold: the faa and others figure out more of what they need. dei had nothing to do with this. "one more thing" is up next. ♪ ♪

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♪ >> judge jeanine: time for "one more thing," greg? >> greg: a banger of a show. mike baker, emily compagno. glen jacobs and charly arnolt. that's tonight. speaking of the gutfeld show. let's talk about kat timpf. last week kat timpf gave birth to an adorable baby boy. >> harold: congratulations, kat,. >> greg: part of that came with interesting news about. 15 hours before she went into labor she was diagnosed with breast cancer. in what was going to be one of the most beautiful moments realized she got interesting news. good news it's stage zero. they are confident that it hasn't spread and that with, you know, quick and thorough treatment she is going to be healthy and back to work. our love goes out to you, kat. i know you are watching with your family right now. hopefully she will be back in probably a few months. >> judge jeanine: she can handle

it, dana. >> dana: absolutely. she will be in the best of hans. >> greg: she is a tough little bugger. >> dana: she will come back and torture you: sean has a cat unique talent for eating ice cream. he loves it. this, as i imagine, brian stelter. [laughter] sorry,. >> greg: we are all corrupted. >> jesse: new fox nation series, the ties that bind. alabama football inside the locker room's practice. a year of unprecedented change. spring ball, summer workouts, fall camp. whole season 2024. episode 2 available on fox nation today. "jesse watters primetime" tonight. pam bondi, gillian michaels and karoline leavitt. >> judge jeanine: that's it for us. have great night, everyone.