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>> it's take a live look at the white house. president trump is about to welcome the united kingdom prime minister. the prime minister is expected to arrive any moment from now. we should catch a glimpse of the hands -- handshake. these are important moments, while coming from the commander-in-chief at that level. it's a big deal. they will do the traditional handshake. if we can, we'll catch a glance of that. during past visits from foreign leaders such as the french president emmanuel macron on monday, these have turned into question and answered sessions before they enter the white house. look at who is president, so we know that. we will be watching for anything that happens, and a special relationship between the u.s. and the u.k. will be tested, as leaders are expected to talk about a number of issues, including president trump's proposed tariffs on the european union, british defense

spending, and support for nato. and, the war in ukraine. the meeting is taking place one day before the high-stakes meeting between the ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy and president trump, set for tomorrow. we are all over it for you. this is "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner with my cohosts emily compagno and kayleigh mcenany. also joining us, fox news contributor and former senior counselor to the president, kellyanne conway. charles payne, host of "making money" at 2:00 p.m. eastern on fox business. we welcome you both. kellyanne, let's begin with these moments today appear to countries that should be yoked together on things. >> i saw a recent poll that shows americans believe the u.k. is our greatest ally. i agree. 42% of americans, followed by canada, 24%. that may change. i attended a reception last night at the british embassy in washington, d.c.. it was covered by the british press, with the prime ministers

that was public. he basically emphasize not just of the alliance, but allegiance he and president trump have forged over the last couple of months. he called president trump when he was shot in butler, pennsylvania. they have talked since. their ben wight, five or six prime ministers on donald trump's watch in the eight years since he had become president the first time it's on our? they cycle through quite a few. i think with this visit today, it is not a coincidence, harris, that starmer said last night to all of us assembled, and this week, they cut foreign aid and have increased defense spending "in the largest way since the cold war." in many ways, starmer is aligning with the term doctrine, which is everybody just has to stop showing up. you've got to start ponying up. >> i want to know what this is

like. in that relationship, is -- changing the way we saw harvested and becoming more open to "i'm going to vote for myself. as a matter which party, more populous." how do you describe it? >> there has been turned and torn oil at the top of the ticket in the u.k. for a while now. you had boris johnson, theresa may, rishi sunak. another woman in there, her name escapes me and i -- >> liz truss. >> think you. and now, keir starmer. is the electorate changing? my jewish friends who live in london, many have their own private security and live in nice places. they are fearful. some are moving. anti-semitism there has been wrangling many folks. i think some of the demography has changed. harris, the u.k. is not one of those places recently like in other countries but i have thrown out the incumbents, necessarily, but i think starmer is trying to get away from the stereotype that he doesn't like trump, that the new ambassador,

lord mendelssohn, who i've also met, don't like trump. that's not true. they recognize the special relationship. i was at the munich security conference two weeks ago. a lot of the european leaders, past and present, were clutching their pearls over vice president vance's speech. good for him for calling out a cancellation of the remaining elections, and good for him for calling out -- and other personal liberties. i think the u.k. recognizes that above all else, and given the president his due, coming here not to kiss the ring and not to bend the knee to president trump, but to figure out how to collaborate when you have really serious things. >> charles. >> you -- more optimistic than when i sat down. i think the next time there is a u.k. election, it will shift back to the same aura that ushered in brexit. people are frustrated.

it was an automatic buyer's remorse. i feel like the folks that i know there -- they feel like "no, we made a mistake." that in mind, if you look at the european stock market, for instance, german defense contractors, british defense contractors, those stocks are going through the roof. they're starting to pony up, they know they have to. one of the election outcomes from germany, one of the messages were "we have got to start footing the bill." in part because it's being sold like "america won't rescue us anymore." which whatever it takes, right? you do have to quote, unquote, pay your fair share. it's interesting. people around the world, particularly in western nations, are frustrated. the citizenship. the leadership and some of the mechanisms they have two muffled voices of citizenship still bother me a lot. >> that's what the vice president was talking ab

about. >> i know that the u.k.'s defense secretary -- on the basis of that sustained investment, the rise in investment that the u.k. is making. he said "the importance of this -- can't be overstated." important all european countries do it. bucking trends by demanding this of our nato allies -- -- and the backstop needs to be the united states -- will help you get there, but the training will have to come off because ultimately this is your neighbor. what i see is an absolute dedication to that alliance, our single largest trading partner

in the u.k., this long-standing relationship. the idea that t -- that we are the big brother is not sustainable, not for those leaders when they come here with her support for president trump. >> they will definitely talk about it and have some feelings about it. this person had the biggest electoral victory since tony blair. president trump had a massive -- first republic into win that popular vote in 20 years. they have this in common. what keir starmer will be pushing for, to your point about

ukraine, is this security for ukraine. we saw emmanuel macron push for the same thing. keeping this in europe. what he says was "i'm not going to make security guarantees -- we are going to have europe do that." he is exactly right. president trump is the one that came on the scene. europe, the 2% mark. the guarantor of their securities, 1949, and is telling europe it's time to step up. as you look at ukraine, you are the ones that need to secure that country. he is putting america first but not america alone, hence this meeting. and -- >> can i just throw in the price tag for rebuilding ukraine? the number is out there, $500 billion.

some crazy number like that. at some point they will look at us and say "you guys are going to write the check." obviously, president trump is in a powerful position. he wants to take care of the american taxpayer. the young american men and women who lost their lives prote protecting -- for so long. it's good that everyone gets along, but the ideology that put that there, that they are so polar a parts. they will have to take a strong stand. >> coming up, liberal lawmaker -- michael moore attacked the president's crackdown on illegal immig immigration. the white house's epic response, next. the average dog only lives to be ten. at the farmer's dog, we don't think that's long enough. that's why our food comes in personalized portions.

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>> the trump administration -- trying to get illegal criminals out of our country. the progressive filmmaker michael moore has quite the hot take. michael moore claims that ever handed criminal illegal immigrants, or just those illegal immigrants could have changed the world. this is what he rode. "who is really removed by ice tonight goes with? discovered the cure for cancer -- and "the ninth grade nerd that should've stopped that asteroid that's going to hit us. do we care?" a very good response. michael moore is free to visit

the quantum computing and particle physics labs ms-13, tda, the cartels are going to have set up back home in el salvador, venezuela, and -- than the gave the most heinous crimes from the criminals donald trump wants off of our streets. these include sexual expectation of a minor, kidnapping, assault, murder, drug trafficking, gang affiliation, and even one known or suspected terrorist. emily, we watch this scroll. does michael moore have any idea? tom homan has said all the way to the moon and back 1500 times "we are going after criminal migrants." that's what they've done. >> that point of view represents infections of the mainstream media. -- arrested on two points. they said number one, all of these criminals, that it was

low-level threats, and number two, they said because the trump administration was not reaching their goal numbers, that it was somehow ineffective. during that analysis, they talked about that president trump, during his background and reality tv, that this has been a deliberate construction of reality, meaning that it's not true. i'm here to tell you that in my experience as a federal attorney and criminal attorney, and as a woman here, that there is nothing worse than the feeling of someone telling you that someone's priors involving assault or the like are no threat, that someone has stated threats to your face -- if you don't take them seriously. so, to have at large the media claim that these criminal allegations, these criminal records are somehow a low-level threat, that they are to remain the norm or be dismissed, removing these individuals from our soil -- somehow his fake is so deeply detrimental to the notion of american safety and to

the point that this is not commander in chief -- this is our commander in chief. this is not the story of paint him as. this is the commander-in-chief, mandating the will of the people exactly what we want, which is prioritizing american safety first and there is nothing wrong with that. >> kellyanne, i wonder if michael moore understands how immigration works. i'm curious if there are physicists, astronomers, pulitzer prize winners, or if the cause of individuals are applying for these visas. we have something called an h1v visa. nonimmigrant classification applies to people who wish to perform services in a specialty occupation. they give several examples. someone who was curing cancer can apply for this visa. we have a category. >> president trump sided with those visas, expanding the man the access to them. he used to tell us in the first term "why are we having people here in these visas, and we kick

them out? we kick them b -- cancer curing intelligence they have gathered, because we don't keep them here." he has talked about that, and even his green gold card that we can talk about later. he has talked about these decisions. it's different. michael moore first of all misspelled asteroid, so... [laughter] made a combination of this, asteroid which has a e in it, and astro, the dog in "the jetsons." i want to ask michael moore: how many illegal immigrants are in your house? you're welcome to harbor them. it's a felony, but you're welcome to keep them. if you have identified that kind of raw talent in the next quantum computing cancer curing individual, i would say sponsor them somehow someway. i'll help you get a waiver for them if you actually have -- he hasn't. not only does he not know about immigration, he is a hypocrite,

and that pro-lifers for years have said the same thing. what about -- maybe you are exterminating the next generation of cancer cures, brilliant scientists. that never works on them. >> fantastic point. >> 81% in the harvard harris poll, will of the people. deportation is the most popular of like the 15 issues at 81%. >> and the most every poll i have seen. charles, a step further -- decided to insult trump voters. called the matt rempe stirrers. he said "if you have amongst your family and friends a few uninformed trumpeters who still scream about building a wall or deporting anyone who can prove they belong here -- maybe you should show them the following list of immigrants who somehow got here and contributed amazing things for the rest of us to benefit from. perhaps, they will see the reason this is a great country is because of these great people who made it what it is today." no one disagrees that they are our guardable immigrants who helped create the country, but what he misses is that we are trumpeters, on the wrong side of history.

to kellyanne's point -- marquette, which we have 61% approve of deportation. harvard harris, 81%. >> he is lazy. this counterfactual argument is one of the laziest, most disingenuous, intellectually dishonest bays you can debate this topic. it really is. it is such b.s. again, he is not paying attention to polls or anything. america, here's the thing: america is proud of its immigration history, proud of it. it's ironic that the left hates someone born in south africa named elon musk. we are not talking about letting a future, to the points that have been made, future physicists. the bottom line is we get to control our destiny. this counterfactual argument is old, lazy, and worn out.

no one buying it, no one. >> it's mind-boggling how much he helps the republican argument here. you know why we don't know if there are physicists in this -- because we are not -- anybody under biden. millions of people here, maybe they are geniuses. we don't know because we didn't vet anybody. were so bad at it that people stopped going around the checkpoints, some of them. i know. i was down there. they would go to the checkpoint, give themselves up, which basically saved them the climb over a fence line. come on. where there was line. otherwise it was a line over the wet clothes many of them had left behind after swimming through the rio grande. look, all of this is the after-the-fact what they took on november 5th. "how can we punch the current set administration and make it seem like it's heartless and make it seem like it's anti-this or anti-that?" i love what you put, counterfactual. that is fancy, michael moore, for lying, because you know it's not true. you know there's a way for people to come in if they want

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♪ ♪ >> president trump is harnessing his business experience with a brand-new plan to attract wealthy foreign investors who want to become u.s. citizens: old cards, not unlike the willy wonka golden ticket. one catch, they come with a hefty price tag of $5 million. despite the high cost,

president trump is confident they will sell like hot cakes, and says they will help bring down our national debt. >> these companies can buy a gold card, and they can use it as a matter of recruitment. at the same time, the company is using that money to pay down debt. i will tell you, the people that can pay $5 million will create jobs, spend a lot of money on jobs. they will have to pay taxes on that too. they will be hiring people, bringing people and companies in. i don't know. maybe it will sell like crazy. i happen to think it will sell like crazy. it's a bargain. >> the commerce secretary -- "i think these are much more lucrative replacements to the current eb5 investor --" he says. >> we sell 200,000, it's a line of eb5 right now. 200,000 of these gold green

cards is $1 trillion to pay down our debt. that's why the president is doing it. we are going to balance his budget, and we are going to pay off the debt under president trump. >> the idea of gold cards are nothing new. a long list of countries from across the globe have adopted similar citizenship by investment programs, often referred to in europe as gold visas. kellyanne? >> if they are anything like the gold watches and gold sneakers, they will sell like hot cakes. michael mora should be in favor of this. why not go find a couple of corporate entities who want to spot that talent and keep the folks here? this could be successful. the way it's being marketed shows the money that can be raised, the investment that can be had, and it beats the heck out of forking over your life savings and everything you borrowed from your village to these coyotes who then have your risk life, limb, sexual assault,

and you come up with nothing when you get here. everybody wants this process to get out of the shadows, be truthful, transparent, forward facing, should welcome this option. >> two-tiered immigration system and -- it potentially fosters corruption, money laundering. the reality is, as president trump was articulating, companies can do this too. to the michael moore argument, you could be a merit-based entree, and have -- >> in the last segment we were talking about the h1b. with that program, this four levels. there is one level where people are superstars. the other levels a lot of times are entry-level workers getting paid less than americans. particularly, indian companies that operate in this country that pay like 85,000 whereas they might be paid $100,000 otherwise. they have to bring in this talent themselves. either they will hire americans

or fork over money for superstars. it's a win-win, and in many ways, the system has been abused by corporations in america that -- have the skill set, would need more money or ask for bigger pay. on the flip side, we can bring this talent into this country. by the way, that is where they want to be. you want to be in america right now for it -- industrial revolution. if your company and there's talent anywhere in the world, and you can afford it, why not? it is a win for everyone. >> this is creative, but it's not new. there is a long list, as we put up on the screen. new zealand, hong kong, singapore. clearly, it does work. >> and i would think it would work for the smaller countries. we are now trying to do to close two simultaneous things. thinking -- that's the come here meanwhile, we are getting -- it's a dual message with the american people in the rearview

mirror. one thing that i would say, and charles, you may know more about this, is the call for investing in areas that are low income and our country. almost a continuation of what he started in his first presidency, donald trump, of the opportunity zones. now you get to do it with other people's money. [laughter] right? and then, they get the benefit of making us greater than they already are with their innovation, business mindedness, all of that. i think there's a lot of pluses maybe people don't know about. >> at the end of the day, often times, civil solutions help complicated issues or big messes, frankly. "the washington post" had a quote from a professor that said "we don't currently have a well-functioning aggression system." sometimes, a simple solution is quite best. this -- immediate impact on the economy stimulus while the long-term investment, the companies into our economy end. to me, the sounds of a win-win. >> it makes a lot of sense. i love how president trump thinks big.

yesterday, howard lutnick said we have these 200,000 -- i think he later said 250,000 applications for the program. heated rough math and said it's about $1 trillion, 1:30 sixth of our debt. he goes back to president trump who says "imagine if we sold 10 million of these, we would have $50 trillion," so we could pay down our national debt and have -- left over. that's the big, bold thinking the country needs. he deserves to be able to think that way. he has so much political capital. think of for the country has come. they were once opposed to a wall, once opposed to deportation around 2016. he's built up 60% political capital, 80% in some polls. he should think big because he is doing a great service for the american people. >> and the democrats helped him because they failed on those issues. >> right. >> and a reminder that these applicants who would be afford these weasels will be vetted.

>> breaking news right now. i think you can see, just came out. president trump is standing there and is about to greet the united kingdom prime minister, keir starmer. we wanted to catch this moment. it's a very traditional look. as we have been talking about on "outnumbered" today, our closest ally around the world, the u.k. ke -- kellyanne was talking about when you pull mike americans, 42% of them say it to be true. this is our biggest friend. there is the of united states as he shakes the hand of the prime minister from the u.k. now, we expect him to talk about a lot of things. let's watch. >> how confident are you? >> does the prime minister -- >> all right. so unlike other presidents, you might catch them talking. i cut myself off because we got

to get there. [laughter] we have seen this present take some questions when a foreign leader arrives. that is important for that moment just in case there was something he wanted to say. i'm thinking big now. charles, i'm thinking that the president meant those words, that he said "i want the war between russia -- invaded ukraine that" wrapped up within weeks. your thoughts. >> he is single-mindedly focused on this. it was mentioned, the ideas. sometimes, the simplest idea is the best idea. be forceful about that. he has blinders on when it comes to this and that gives me confidence that this is going to happen, that this war is going to be wrapped up sooner than any expert thought just a month ago. >> and if you just look at it, you got talk of president trump also meeting with vladim vladimir putin, the president of russia. these are optics we didn't see. we do know the textures of those meetings because they haven't happened, but wow, what a

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well i for one, am intrigued! >> just a few weeks ago, california governor gavin newsom was making sure everyone knew who was ready to fight president trump. back and forth with trump over his response to the los angeles fires. he even called a special legislative session to trump-prove the liberal laws in his estate. now that the democratic party's attempt to punch back at the president have fallen flat, he is trying something new: launching a podcast to speak with conservative and maga personalities called "this is gavin newsom."

>> we need to change the conversation. that's why i'm launching a new podcast. this is going to be anything but the ordinary politician podcast. i'm going to be talking to people directly that i disagree with. as well as people i look up to. more important, i will be talking directly with you, the listener. real conversations. what's going on with the cost of eggs? what are the impacts to you around tariffs? what power does an executive order really have? what's really going on inside of doge? there is an onslaught of information we take in, so it's tickets for the sources. without the typical political mumbo-jumbo. in the first few weeks, we will be sitting down with the biggest leaders and architects in the maga movement. this is gavin newsom. >> i have reason to question he truly wants to understand maga voters. he says he will sit down with them. go look at the lineup.

i have secured about a half dozen -- individuals. you were the person who called a special legislative session to resist trump days after the election and now you want to understand maga? >> i think he knows that the democratic party is in free fall. i think he needs a new message. they can try all they want to game out who would be best in 2028 visually and vocally. you need to be able to say something to the voters. this past election was the moment were voters said "no more will you tell me who i am, what i believe, how to vote based on my race, gender, whether i live in california, my political affiliation, my religion, my sexual orientation, all of it." he's a smart guy. he's savvy. i'm not surprised his podcast is called "i'm gavin newsom." that doesn't surprise me at all.

this is a classic case of if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. the cardinals in the democratic party has made in the last 8-10 years, they have soapsuds overtime from the individual and have not spent an iota of time getting to know t the trump vot. what motivation -- instead of disparaging us is undereducated and trump-ers, running from the hills with long toenails and no teeth. [laughter] to get to know us. i will say this: before he was that she was running it with his left wing policies. has he learned the lesson that everything beautiful about california -- all the problems were man-made. he's had a hand in that. i would not count him out as somebody in the future who knows what he is doing just by enlarging the conversation. >> i wouldn't count him out either. he is very savvy, harris. this is a savvy idea. trump won much of the young male vote because of the podcast -- that connected him to an audience that he otherwise would

not have reached. i think this is gavin newsom trying to do the same thing. >> i want to know who gavin newsom was, who has put all the homelessness out there with our. i want to know who gavin newsom was that was making all sorts of campaign promises. he didn't even -- we are going to test and see if he can keep the black vote after saying "we will give you reparations" and going back to everybody else in the country, where they work -- "are there other ways you can help people?" i know he says this is him, but democrats have a sneaky way of redefining people and things. i would say this isn't smart. he is reaching out to people that are countering his view. this will make him look like he's ready to debate. i think that's a good thing. westward, gavin newsom last word on this: gavin newsom have the gavel, and he let it go. he let his estate go. do you want that in your country? i will be curious. name names. who will you have a new podcast? >> charles, i learned from politico, the democratic party has not done unofficial

postmortem. apparently, gavin newsom has a notebook which has reached 28 pages, on his reflections on the election. i would do anything -- i want to see the 28 pages of gavin newsom's journal. >> you will soon at barnes & noble. given another six months. [laughter] president trump went to them. this feels too self-serving for me. listen, -- the g.o.p. was blessed to have donald trump blowing up. took a long time. there's a few resistors in their. the liberals, the democrats need someone to blow that up and fresh thinking. that's what they need more than anything else. i will take it with a grain of salt. >> is he the one to do that? >> as a californian on the couch, san francisco while gavin newsom was my mare. this is my wish in a bug. we know who gavin newsom is.

don't need the podcast "this is gavin newsom." he should title it "this is gavin newsom and you." he should challenge himself with every episode coming to a shared conclusion, a mutual agreement with every difference of opinion, person he has on. at the end of the day, respectfully, i know exactly what he thinks and exactly how everyone else thinks. what's new about him posting it? what i want to hear is that mutual agreement -- that is with the democrat party -- >> you could produce that show and it would be a winner. [laughter] >> three good ideas. some canadian coffee shops are making a big change after president trump offer the country to become the 51st state. we will tell you what it is, next. (man) got one more antoine. (vo) with usps ground advantage, it's like you're with us every step of the way.

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>> president trump meeting with u.k. prime minister -- with an eye toward ending the ukraine were. we will have all the action from the white house coming up. also the latest on the violent anti-israel protest. is anti-semitism rearing its head on college campuses again? a college soccer player accused of brutally murdering his younger brother.

investigators now saying that gene hackman and his wife appear suspicious. we will have the latest. i am john roberts. join sandra and me top of the hour for "america reports." we will see you in just under 1. ♪ ♪ >> president trump has made it clear that canada is welcome to join the united states if they are unhappy with tariffs. >> think canada is going to be a very serious contender to be our 51st state. i think they have to become the 51st state. i think canada should be our 51st state. >> not all canadians are sold on the idea and find creative ways to show that. signs at this one have been spotted in canadian coffee shops, crossing out the name of the standard americano coffee and renaming it the canadiano. [laughter] >> canada has the lowest hours of work, about 32 hours, where

as we worked over 40. it would be the second poorest state. i'm not sure we want canada. [laughter] love our friends up north, but to take them on as a state, it might be too much responsibility. by the way, the sale of canadian flags thi -- is through the roof. let's keep the relationship we've got. >> the funny thing to me, keeping that name americano, crossing out so everyone knew the sentiment. >> americano, apparently the origin was there were american soldiers in italy during world war ii and they said the espresso was too strong so they watered it down called amer americano. if they want to do this, that's fine. my coffee is cafe au lait which is french and very good if you have not try to. >> minus cr green tea. [laughter] so canada, greenland. i will learn how to cross country ski. >> i have a feeling this is

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what it is. that is our job to continue to build on it and make it better for those. >> harris: watch the brand-new series "the tie that binds alabama football" available right now foxnation.com and catch new episodes every single wednesday. very fun to watch for that. now we have breaking news. remember we showed you moments e traditional handshake between president trump and the visiting u.k. prime minister keir starmer appeared at the two set to take questions bilateral meeting at the white house set for 2:00 p.m. eastern today, the news conference in the bilateral meeting right now. we are told the meaning just started. we are getting information out of it and something that just came out, the u.k. prime minister has given the president of the united states a letter from king charles and we are learning that the letter

says this we want to make sure a peace deal is enduring and last. j.k. prime minister thinks president trump for his ability of peace to ukraine. this seems like an important moment. i went to the first visit and the first president trump and melania trump went to u.k. a special relationship with king charles and president trump were forging to say the queen who really -- this is important because in this, the king is talking about peace for ukraine being lasting and how important this aligns with the u.k. as well. >> harris: they see us doing something perhaps we had not been doing since the 1800 the words minor incursion to russia. we see us in the lead. and people see that around the world, putting america first. "america reports" now. ♪ ♪