going to do it and that will be a pleasant conversation. the heart of conversation is will we have an agreement? and i think the answer is yes. russia will agree and i really believe ukraine will agree also. >> reporter: the troops in ukraine are keeping the peace that getting attacked by russia. will it come to an end back? >> president trump: if they get attacked, you know, i have always felt about the british, they don't need help. they can take care of themselves. you know what, it sounds evasive but it's not evasive. you know the british have been incredible soldiers and incredible military. and they can take care of themselves. but if they need help, i will always be with the british. i will always be with them. but they don't need help. look at their career, you have done well over the years. have you not? >> prime minister starmer: we have all also been backing each

other up between the two countries and that is why this is the greatest alliance of security that the world has ever seen. whenever necessary, we absolutely -- >> president trump: could you take on russia by yourselves? [laughter] all right, one or two more. >> reporter: the security conference, vice president vance condemned free-speech violations in the u.k., particularly that you respond and what is your message? >> president trump: i have an idea. we have the man right here, come on, j.d. we are putting you on stage. >> i said what i said which is we have of course a special relationship with the friends in the u.k. and some of our european allies, but we also know there have been infringements on free speech that actually affect not just the british, of course, what the british do in their own country is up to them. but affects technology american companies and by extension of american citizens. that is something we will talk

about today at lunch. >> prime minister starmer: in the united kingdom and it will last for a very, very long time. it is something we wouldn't want to reach across u.s. systems and we don't and that is absolutely right. bite in relation to the u.k. and free-speech, i am proud of that. >> reporter: with the breads, what you discuss this with the prime minister starmer? >> president trump: what does that mean? >> reporter: the defense line? >> president trump: we have another great relationship and you have too with australia. we have a great relationship with australia. >> reporter: vice president here, are you disappointed that and the german elections from the previous support? >> president trump: no, whatever happens with germany, the relationship has been strong with germany but we will have to see what happens. we have a lot of things going on right now we will have to see.

no, i'm not disappointed with anything. if anything, the group most opposed to lost. but we got along with them also. we have a very good relationship with all groups in germany. >> reporter: eric prince was talking about his proposal to use right that forces with deportations. have you read that proposal and do you support it? >> president trump: no, i haven't seen it and i don't think it is necessary. our people are doing phenomenal. i would not be opposed to it but i go to tom homan, kristi noem, and asked. but i don't see it -- we are doing on believable, unbelievably in getting people out and getting criminals out and people that should have never been here. that the biden administration with stupid open borders should have never allowed to. they came from prisons and jails in mental institutions and gang members and drug dealers coming into our country. we are getting them out and we are doing well.

the level of effectiveness has been incredible. everybody is talking about it. how about one more. >> reporter: mr. president, one on the middle east. our there area specifically in ukraine you are talking about and giving back to crimea? have you gotten to those details yet? >> president trump: you mean the areas we are taking? there are a lot of areas we are taking. we have talked about it and a lot has been taken and we will be talking about that. we will see if we can get it back or a lot back for ukraine if that is possible. we will sing about that. thank you very much, everybody. thank you. >> john: all right, president trump and keir starmer of the prime minister of the u.k. meeting in the oval office for the first time, although quite a bit of contact with each other.

the present accepting a invitation to king charles a second visit to the u.k. a lot of business and a lot international after that, sandra. >> sandra: the confident and if we make a deal it will hold talking about ukraine. a lot of questions on that in the invitation he has accepted for the second state visit. a lot coming out of that and we will continue to monitor the white house, john. >> john: one of the big questions in the meeting that will occur in the private meeting or lunch, keir starmer has had a crucial aspect of a european peacekeeping force in ukraine would involve some sort of american backstop. i'm not sure what that means. he is pretty ambiguous about it but it might be american forces station and places like poland to a greater degree than they are right now in case something would happen. but we will keep following that. in the meantime, this is a fox news alert. and the death of legendary actor gene hackman. that sheriff at santa fe county now says there are no signs of

foul play, but they are not ruling it out. hackman and his wife found dead in new mexico home by maintenance workers. >> sandra: jonathan, he has the latest from los angeles. we are getting they play some new details of the parent late conference that happened, jonathan. but the details seem to be slow to emerge making this more murky situation. speak of the santa fe county sheriff and this news conference was essentially clear as mud once again, sandra. what he said was according to local reports, local reporters at the news conference, "they are not ruling out foul play in the death of gene hackman and his wife, betsy." but there were no obvious signs of foul play. we also have received from the sheriff's department in santa fe the search warrant affidavit, which revealed that the bodies

of gene hackman and his wife were found in separate rooms. hackman was found in a mud room at the house. his wife was found in a bathroom. she apparently was lying next to a space heater and close to her was a prescription pill bottle and some scattered pills. a dog, one of the couple's dogs was also in the bathroom apparently lying in a closet and also deceased. another dog was found loose wandering around the property. the bodies were discovered on wednesday as we understand that by a couple of maintenance workers who regularly went to the property that said they had not seen the couple for around two weeks. that is when the sheriff's deputies went and they looking at the scene didn't find any obvious signs, they set up a gas leak or carbon monoxide leak. and they concluded that the scene itself was suspicious

enough, in their words, to warrant an investigation. that might be a statement of the obvious, sandra, if you walk into a house and you find the bodies of two people into coseparate rooms, you are going to think there needs to be an investigation. so when a sense, that is a statement of the obvious but the fact they used the word "suspicious" and now saying the words of the sheriff himself, they are not ruling out foul play all leads to all of these questions which it seems will be a little while to be honest. that investigation ongoing. but the bottom line, hollywood and the world, sandra, has lost a legendary actor and 95-year-old gene hackman, sandra. >> sandra: jonathan, i know you will stand pat and bring details as you get them, john. >> john: tmc, with some thoughts about all of this and reading through the affidavit year and a number of things obviously that looks suspicious

to the place. one was where betsy was found in the condition she was found in. the fact there was a dead dog in the closet in gene hackman in a completely different room. what do you know about what all of the says? >> you are exactly right or joe there were a few things to lead them to make that decision to get the affidavit and get the sh warrant for this. these are the reasons i can give you right now as we know at the very moment is that when they entered the house, the authorities first stumbled upon betsy. she was laying down inside the bathroom on her side. but they also noticed was there was a space heater next to her that had fallen down. but they are believing at the moment from what they see is that space heater had fallen down because she had fallen on it. just like you said, gene hackman was in a completely separate room of the house for joe he was actually in the kitchen and he

appeared in the same way that betsy did. there was deep opposition. there was signs of mummification on the bodies. it is unclear right now along these two were dead for. but what we know is there was a door that had been busted open, which is another sign that cause them to want to investigate this. we know a neighbor was concerned and walked up to the window. we got the 911 call on tmz.com. very distressed looking into the window but with all of these factors, like mention previously, this just gives a reason to investigate this much, much further because they are not going to rule out any signs of foul play. we know when the news conference they doubled down on that and said there was no obvious signs of foul play but everything i just said, including and i also forgot to mention, there was an orange pill bottle next to betsy's body scatter with pills all over the place.

with all of those facts laid on the table, we will find out a little bit more as we go along here. >> sandra: sandra here, what are we learning from 911 call tmz has been reporting on they have been able to obtain at least some of it at least that this was a caretaker who makes e of the house and couldn't get access but saw the bodies. surprising that so many days could pass where they were deceased, but no one was coming and going from the house. to learn that they had passed. what did you find out from them 9111 call? >> that is definitely the most interesting part. why nobody noticed for so long. we put on the website, we haven't actually seen betsy and jane out in public march 28, 2024. so we haven't seen them in a long, long time. it is unclear who is checking on gene hackman and who is checking on betsy and what kind of

contact with family and associates each coming day. what we know is the specific person on that 911 call was actually an associate of gene hackman's family. part of the team that apparently, again, we don't know the total detail, but we know the person, obviously, checks on gene hackman and betsy from time to time. in the 911 call, it it was distressing and the person did not go into the house. they were sitting outside of the home looking into the window. but they saw where the bodies laying there. like i said very distressing and you can tell a moment where they don't know what is going on. they are in a panic. and then 911 call constantly saying over and over again because so, so stressed out. and that is when authorities arrived and went in and got the search warrant in super suspicious after all of the things they sell appeared to but definitely a distressing theme. and authorities didn't reveal

any of this until after midnight last night and this happened yesterday afternoon. it is such a crazy scene here. >> john: what is very intriguing about all of this is this idea there seem to be evidence that both of them had fallen suddenly into different rooms at the house. what would cause someone to fall suddenly? it had been possibly by the family early in the investigation that perhaps some sort of carbon monoxide poisoning going on but that would not cause you to fall suddenly. you sort of go to sleep and never wake up. as well, the detective say in the affidavit they conducted testing to see if signs of possibly carbon monoxide leak or poisoning. of the fire did not locate signs of carbon monoxide poisoning and as of now, no evidence indicating there were problems associated with the pride in and around the residence. said the big question is, what caused it they did fall down

suddenly, which the affidavit and that detectives seem to suggest what caused them to do that in completely separate rooms of the house. >> i think the most intriguing part of that question is owed to the one thing i can think of is the dog that also passed in the home. we know there were two other healthy dogs being investigated and the dogs were totally healthy. there is one dog dead as well. that begs the question what exactly happened here. who knows? >> sandra: all right, thank you. >> john: thank you, appreciate it. we are following all of the breaking news out of this ministry and will be joined by forensic pathologist joe said scott morgan in just a bit so stay with us for that. >> sandra: a live look at the white house, president trump set to house a press conference with prime minister starmer and we expect that to begin soon and we will bring you they are when that happens plus this.

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threats? >> john, as you mentioned it looks like it every couple of months the city's upper west side but more pro-palestinian at the ivy league campus and this time the students are marching and chanting because two pro-palestinian students got kicked out of class air and expelled from barnard and from columbia, okay? they said they should be allowed to go back and but the reason they were booted in the first place is the school said they were handing out anti-semitic papers like this. pulled them on your screen. that says some of what is thrown around in his class, they read burned zionism to the ground and crush zionism. they were thrown in a class teaching the history of modern israel here on campus calling for all scientist classes to be interrupted, exactly what jewish students tell me is happening again. >> it should be obvious administration are refusing to hold people accountable but they have rules but refused to

enforce them. the moment they enforce rules, they were shocked that they were able to protest against that. the cycle continues. >> that is the thing. it doesn't seem like the students are afraid of repercussions. this is what it looks like barnard college all-girls college affiliated with columbia. pro-palestinian protesters pushing past security and injuring a school employee who was trying to block the door. we had to go to the hospital, we are told, they would not let another jewish students into the class. watch this. >> you are catering to them. you have to get them out. >> so after nearly seven hours, the group left because the place were possibly going to come. back out here to live to meet with pro-palestinians students but the dean's office said they had to take off their masks and headscarves because they want to identify them for safety reasons.

the students did not think this was fair. it is insane to talk to the students who have been here for a few years. some are seniors and can't wait to get out of here because they don't think the school is handling it correctly, john. >> john: alexis mcadams at barnard, sandra. >> sandra: columbia student blocked barnard campus building as anti-israel protesters overran it. watch this. >> one group is not allowed to take over a building. [knocking on door]. we need to call the plays. >> sandra: while the pro-palestinian demonstrators were allowed to continue approach of the student was blocked from his own counterprotest. junior columbia student elisha baker joins us now to tell his story. elisha baker i understand you go by as well but thank you for being here. but first your reaction to this fresh wave of anti-israel protest happening on another college campus.

>> yeah, this is nothing new. these are students that cause play as terrorists that they support. they have no regard for the rules. they have no regard for the basic function of the university, which is to teach and learn. as she is on the video, my friend went over because he has an accounting class and that all taken over in that door was locked and he was prevented because the protesters were essentially given for exclusive access. and especially on the day where the family was buried in israel, one of the saddest days in jewish history. it is so upsetting to see a mob overrun a building and now as you see on the screen, run around the campus supporting the terrorists that commit these acts. >> sandra: i just want to make sure the viewers know these are live pictures that we are continuing to see and the reporters on the ground say the number of protesters continues to grow in number as we head to the later afternoon hours here.

i want to play this. this is first your friend, johnny, confronting the guard who won't let them into the loft building. so much more of this. >> i don't understand. why not? you tell me to go away but tell them to go away. why do i have to go away but they don't know what way? do you understand what is happening here? why are they there but i can't go and? >> sandra: elisha, the man at the flag tracked around him is your friend that you were also there. what was happening in the exchange? >> the flag person is actually me. here is the backstory. basically i am totally opposed to protest inside of academic buildings. but if there is going to be a protest inside of an academic building and they will allow, which last night they essentially did, they should be allowed to have counterprotesting the same place. there is no president what i said is there is no precedent

for allowing one group exclusive access to a protest area and the other group not being allowed. so if i had it all my way, they would be no protest inside of academic buildings because that goes against what the university should be promoting and that blocks classes and it is disruptive. but if you are going to allow protest in the academic building, it baffles me why one group would be allowed exclusive access. >> sandra: i'm sure a lot of people have the same reaction as they watch more of your video. you were the man with a flag draped around her shoulders there. this has more appeal confronting protesters delivering food and water to the anti-israel protesters. watch. >> you guys are helping people violate rules, the understand that, right? this is a rule violation. aiding and abetting. aiding a an end abetting, nice,

guys you are part of this demonstration. >> sandra: elisha, explain what we are seeing here. >> what we are seeing is a group of students that showed up with grocery bags and meals for the protesters that essentially locked themselves in the building. they are throwing water bottles, as you can see. what i said to them, you are not in that building but absolutely supporting aiding and abetting this protest by providing them food and by providing cover for the people who are violating the rules. the point that i was trying to make there was, you know, you can't get away with rule violations without, you know, without being on camera and hopefully without facing disciplinary action. i want to note at the end of the night after six hours of a standoff inside of the building essentially between the protesters and the dean, barnard gave them a document that said if you leave by 10:30 p.m., which remember is more than six hours after they arrived and

more than five hours after they block people from going to class. if you lead by 10:30 p.m., we will not issue any disciplinary rulings from inside the building. essentially at 10:45 p.m. they marched out and did a victory march because they successfully held a standoff here till they are getting away with no ids checked and no discipline. by videoing that in confronting them, it is important to make a point to try to this incentivize this type of behavior. >> sandra: before, we have to leave for there but do you believe they should ultimately be punished or removed from the school altogether as the former secretary of state, mike pompeo mike pompeo, suggested that the top of the hour here? >> i think people who undermined the basic functioning at the university and anti-semitic and anti-american place like this should be disciplined and i don't believe that there is any place for this on a college campus. >> sandra: gada, elisha,

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and hearing these bits of information coming out. the most important thing i believe at this point in time is to see what the state medical examiner has to say. we have heard about pills being scattered about. pills being scattered about and pills being ingested are completely different. kind of interested in the space heater that has been tipped over. and with the medical examiner's help, one of the things that will take place as they will conduct a test called hemoglobin level. and not just on mr. hackman and his wife but also, i would imagine somebody involved in veterinarian medicine will also attend to this dog as well to see if there is any carbon monoxide in their system regardless of what the fire department says about what was there or what wasn't there. now my understanding is per the last guest that you had, there was may be evidence of forced

entry. that is traveling and we don't know what the source of that was. was it emt or the place trying to get access because you know it was actually someone who appeared through the window. did they not have access to that? when you get into the house, you want any sign of all of the struggle that took place? of course, observations of the body that as we know one of the things saying as ghastly as it is is that they are talking about signs of decompensation and not just decomposition but mummification, which takes a little bit longer than standard a composition. >> john: to your point there just waiting for the affidavit. one of the indicators deputy thomas did not any indication rummage through our items taken from inside the residency and advice based on training and experience that nothing appeared to be out of place while clearing the residence. that would seem to eliminate any

possibility of a struggle. >> yeah, as a struggle. but you know, mr. hackman was happy and age and it would not take much to traumatize him. you have to examine the bodies very, very thoroughly just make sure sure they don't have any, because just because there is no rummaging that goes on doesn't mean they have not been traumatized. the way they are saying and keep throwing at this term, guys about suspicion. any time you that term, everybody's antenna goes up at that point. you have to be very thorough and painstaking in these cases. they will do asked out exhaustive external investigation before they do an autopsy. just know this, state medical examiner's office in new mexico is superlative. till they are a shining example of the legal medical death investigation and have been for

years. i am glad the remains are with them and we can get to the heart of this to find out what was going on. >> sandra: i suppose obviously time will tell but the deaths at these 22 individuals could have happened completely separate times and not necessarily at the same time. >> yeah, you are absolutely right. and that is really important to note at the scene when you have two and we have to state again, with a canine pound as well, the measurement of what we refer to as postmortem interval. that is the moment since death and we conduct certain measurements at the scene. it is important they are done at the scene. when you start to get off into this area of the advancement in decompensation, and again, using this term of mummification, we have to keep in mind as well santa fe is very arid environment. so that promotes mummification. not to mention we are coming out of the winter months which is

particularly drive more so than most of the time. it will be rather complex and i asked people to be very patient before they jump to conclusions because you want all of the data to be in and you want to get this right. that is what they are dealing with right now. >> john: again, you mentioned this that despite the fact there were no signs that there might have been carbon monoxide poisoning, you can't roll that out until you do the tests on the remains. >> correct, yes. >> john: the affidavit said they both had appeared abruptly fallen. carbon monoxide poisoning i don't believe would cause that. and probably they cannot go to sleep. but if they died of something else, what would have killed the dog? this is puzzling! >> precisely and that is they had scratcher. the nature of the relationship they had with this particular dog if there is anything more sinister here, perhaps, did they

have particular affection for this animal? i don't know. nothing is off the table, whether it be any of the five manors have death homicide, suicide, accidental death, undetermined, or natural. everything has to be considered and that is why it is important to examine all of these remains very, very carefully. if they did die suddenly and they both collapsed simultaneously, which is kind of interesting statement that they are making there go to there has to be because of development. they were a huge age gap between mr. hackman and this is the 17th. i don't know what her level of disease was, perhaps heart problems or a stroke but i can imagine two people having simultaneous strokes and then to boot, the bow passes away as well and we have to be careful moving forward with this case. >> sandra: you have to ask yourself if time difference and death and the caregiver

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waste. so, i would say, i'm going to push back on that because, again, here is someone maybe doesn't have the same talents and abilities to be a congressman or congresswoman then anybody else. i don't see where she is going away fat. but obviously, elon musk has the right skills and ability to pay her out ways to end federal government. >> john: she forgot that he can catch rocket boosters, too. >> exactly. it is who you surround yourself -- it is who you surround yourself with, yes. >> john: listen, in terms of waste, fraud to go to abuse you have been looking into usaid. you put a query and months ago for information and they said no, no, no, you can't have access because it is classified. when you did get access and it is not classified at all that may be embarrassing more than anything. this is funds given to recipients in ukraine as part of

a competitive economy program. modern women's $150,000 trade mission for fashion design house 128,000 and photographer for publications more money and contemporary knitwear luxury bridal bran in a marketplace for design or artisanal pieces inspired by folk craft. a vineyard and artisanal fruit tea company and custom carpet manufacturer $2 million in confectionery company that got $700,000. were you surprised by all of this and the attitude of usaid to say, it is classified and we can't give you that information? >> john, and i surprised? absolutely not. my battle with usaid began a number of years ago when you rightfully pointed out they were telling me this information is classified. you can't see it. they actually threatened my staff and i that the economic espionage act. they basically said, "we can

allow you to say this because we might say you are a spy if any of the information is disclosed." but what it was was embarrassing information they didn't want to be seen anywhere else. so yes, this has been going on for three years now. i am so grateful to take all of the information i have compiled through my squeal of lords and my squeal work over the past ten years and provide that to the department of government efficiency and elon musk. so we are providing them a blueprint to find trillions of dollars of savings in the federal government. we will cut that waste. we will protect the taxpayers. we are going to make sure that we make a more efficient federal government. that is what we are trying to do. i am so glad elon musk met with us today to help all of our senators in the doge caucus understand how we can better partner with these initiatives and make some of these executive orders for president trump

permanent. >> john: all right, we will keep watching this, of course. it is the topic of the year in washington so far. but they are other things coming up competing for the limelight. senator, thank you so much. >> thank you so much, john. >> john: one of those things right now. >> sandra: jeffrey epstein files could go public in a minute and congressmen up in arms about it next. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> sandra: new files related to jeffrey epstein could be released eminently as the attorney general pushes for transparency in the justice department. our national correspondent, griff jenkins live from washington. so what do we know about what is coming? >> well, sandra we know while we wait for the justice department expected release of the epstein documents which we do believe and appear to be eminent reports are emerging that state this release may disappoint those hoping for a bombshell and contain a little more than epstein's list of contacts without further context. it is leading members of congress up in arms just moments ago. helena po luna with the task force on secret document release is posting to x, she has not been given the documents reviewed them naming the

documents released today adding for us in all caps, "this is not we are the american people asked for and complete disappointment. get us the information we asked for. "this after what appears to be conservative influencers exiting the -- epstein files phase 1. attorney general bondi said more than 250 victims to identify and have to be protected and people may be shocked by what they learned. >> what you are going to see hopefully tomorrow is a lot of flight logs and a lot of names. a lot of information, but it is pretty sick what that man did. >> and you recall, sandra, last month president trump signed an executive order directing agencies to release documents pertaining to jeffrey epstein and mlk. so we wait and see if anything

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>> gene hackman, who died at the age of 95, of mysterious circumstances surrounding not only his death but the death of his wife. betsy arakawa, with the death of their dog, looking for affidavitings, seemed to have fallen down abruptly. >> sandra: they have released

the 911 call, the person first described as maintenance worker but it turns out it's a t caretaker in the neighborhood. barking dogs are heard in the background. he says he can see them through the window and not moving. an incredible mystery as we wait for more details. >> john: those may be long in coming because autopsies have to be done and x-rays and some other tests as well to see what the cause of death might be. for a news conference with ng president trump and prime minister of the uk. it was scheduled to begin an hour ago but as we know with the white house, sometimes things don't happen on time. >> sandra: another packed two hours. >> john: definitely. x files coming up, too. >> martha: there are big things