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>> this is a live look at the white house where president trump and ukrainian president vladimir zelinski our meeting. as soon as we get the playback, we will play it for you and we will see this historic moment play out before your eyes. these world leaders are the precipice -- on the precipice of signing a historic deal at 1:00 p.m. today. president trump confirmed in that meeting that the deal will be signed. it gives the united states access to revenue from ukraine's deposit of rare earth minerals. trumpet sees this deal is a big win. it is a big way to recover the billions in wartime aid we have sent to ukraine which amount to about $183 billion. one point of contention between the two leaders has been security guarantees for ukraine. volodymyr zelenskyy has been insistent that they must have the security details guaranteed,

but the trump administration views the deal as a framework for a larger piece deal and says these security guarantees fall on the backs of europe. that has been emphasized both to the leader of france and of course yesterday to -- of the u.k. this is "outnumbered." i'm kayleigh mcenany with my cohosts emily compagno. joining us as gerri willis, fox business correspondent. tomi lahren, fox news contributor and host of "tomi lahren is fearless" on out kick, and now streaming on foxnews.com. and steve doocy, ""fox & friends"" cohost. >> afternoon, ladies. >> good to have you. [laughter] the news does not slow down on a friday. steve, as i was thinking about this as i was walking down, i recall being in some of these meetings with president trump. i will drop that name. [laughter] i remember him meeting with the prime minister of iraq. ira member him being tough behind the scenes and in front of the camera, because he sees himself as an advocate for, yes,

global security, but for the u.s. taxpayer dime. >> i'm glad started there. i was thinking exactly the same thing. we seen this movie before with donald trump. how many times in the last couple of months have we seen him negotiate in public the things he wants to get done? back to 2016 when he was running for president, what was going on? iraq. it because the states a boatload of dough. what did he say the time? "let's take the oil from iraq." fast forward to now and it's driving him crazy that we have spent so much money in ukraine. he is not asking for the oil because they don't have a lot of oil, but they kept the rare earth. that's why he's doing it. that is why he called him a dictator last week, and like a third rate comedian or something, he is softening him up. when he gets into the white house where he is right now, he will be begging. "i'm not a dictator. i'm a good comedian, but let's

make a deal." he wants the u.s. to backstop, militarily, ukraine security force which would be provided by europe, but i don't think trump is going to bite on that. >> i don't think he has. we have his remarks on that point this week. hear what he said wednesday. this is in a cabinet meeting. then, thursday, he spoke directly to the u.k.'s prime minister on the security guarantee for ukraine. >> i'm not going to make security guarantees beyond very much. we are going to have your up to that. >> mr. president, would you send u.s. peacekeepers to support the european peacekeepers? >> we are going to support europe. we are going to be signing an important agreement for all sides. it's going to get us into that country. we will be working there were a lot of people are working there. in that sense, it's good. it's a backstop, you could say. i don't think anybody is going to play around if we are there with workers. >> that point, emily, is very

interesting to me. what he is insinuating, if i can translate what i hear when he says these things is he doesn't want a permanent military presence from the u.s. and abroad and in ukraine, goodness for a lot of people, but he sees the presence of u.s. workers economically as a part of this rare earth minerals deal as a way to buttress and fortify ukraine. who wants to attack a u.s. worker? >> at its heart, that is the deterrence of the red states when it is peace through strength. the reality is that serves a symbiotic purpose. that deterrence -- while also protecting ukraine's interest at this moment were requesting deeply for that. we talked about this yesterday, that the secretary of defense says "i love that you are having everyone else in europe want to pony up. we are grateful for that." for the u.k. however, the deterrence they wanted in the form of security. i would say being honored, up

until now -- a lender with zero interest. just an open door policy bank. >> a soccer. -- >> there are many ways to have that mutually beneficial. this thinking which seems obvious in hindsight took only donald trump out-of-the-box -- to make sure it works without our blood and treasure on the ground. that's the point. ultimately, economic vested interests are great. no contractors and everything off the top, perfect, but when you talk about military, security in the physical form, that's not something americans are interested in. we talked about that at length. >> the details we have now, president trump initially wanted $500 billion which was zelenskyy. there will be eight -- of this rare earth mineral revenue which would include oil and gas. the u.s. would administer the fund and take 15% of the revenue. >> i think that basically gets

to what you were saying. we are going to share, work with ukraine. we are insensitive to do this deal. why? we need those rare earth minerals to compete with china and technology. this is great for us if we landed. i think it's very easy for us to do that. he's also wanting to come to the table too, because he wants to loop in the u.s. tightly as much as he can, for security and other reasons. >> tomi, this piques my interest today. this headline. "pitches trump on security deal akin to ukraine." [laughter] there is a method to the madness that the liberal media sees. these deals incentivize other deals. >> they do. we talk about china's interests and some of these regions. i think united states is now a player in saying "we can do this too. we don't have to do it via charity." this is reimagining nation-building in a way that

benefits the united states and the united states taxpayer. that's what i love about it, as someone who grew tired of sending billions to ukraine not really knowing where it was going, not being fully confident it was being used appropriately. then, when you say we are going to have an economic interest, you have gone from being a freeloader to a partner. the ordinary american are going to be more about into that end of the deal because we can see a purpose for the united states and giving ukraine and the people of ukraine economic optimism and prosperity. that's the best way to build up a nation, not just "sesame street." this is the new method and i bought it. >> my husband looked at me last night and "can you imagine if he's able to end this war and get this economic success out of it?" i would love to watch some of the reporting from the naysayers when and if that happens. tonight on "special report," bret baier will sit down with ukrainian president zelenskyy.

they will talk about zelenskyy's meeting with president trump, the rare earth minerals deal, and ending the war with russia. you will not want to miss that exclusive interview at 6:00 p.m. eastern time right here on the fox news channel. what happened to legendary actor gene hackman and his wife? police are calling the couple's death suspicious. a live report, next. upset stomach iberogast indigestion iberogast bloating iberogast thanks to a unique combination of herbs, iberogast helps relieve six digestive symptoms to help you feel better. six digestive symptoms. the power of nature. iberogast.

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of -- police are trying to unravel the mystery of what happened to gene hackman and his wife. they were both found that in ine new mexico home wednesday. police telling the judge that circumstances of their death are suspicious, and the sheriff says there's no obvious sign of foul play. jonathan hunt is live with more.

>> emily, with the santa fe county sheriff, saying there are no obvious signs of foul play, while in the same sentence not ruling out foul play. what we are all waiting for is the critical medical examiner's report. >> think the autopsy is going to be key and the toxicology. again, in my experience, that could take a while. i ask that people be patient. >> the bodies of 95 euros gene hackman and his 65-year-old wife were first discovered by workers who visit the property and called 911. >> are they awake? >> i have no idea. >> are the breathing? >> i have no idea. i'm not inside the house. i can't go in, but i see she is laying down on the floor from the window. >> according to an affidavit filed by the sheriff's office, the first deputies on the scene discovered hackman's body in a

mud room, showing signs of falling suddenly, and his wife in the bath and showing similar signs of a sudden fall. she was also close to an open prescription bottle and scattered pills. one of the couple's dogs was dead in that same bathroom in a closet, according to the affidavit, although the sheriff later called it a kennel. there were no obvious signs of carbon monoxide or gas poisoning. the bodies were apparently partly mummified, having lain undiscovered for days, possibly weeks. >> all i can see is they've been deceased for quite a while. that's a determination that is better suited for -- and the experts, but it sounds like they had been deceased for a while. i don't want to take a guess in reference to how long that was. >> hackman's family released a statement acknowledging millions of people around the world loved and admired hackman's work, but added "to us, he was always just dad or grandpa."

we have just got from the sheriff's office now an inventory of things taken from the hackman residence. when we -- those pills found in the bathroom where his wife was discovered, according to this return and inventory, what they found was thyroid medication, blood pressure medication, and tylenol. none of those would seem to be significant, a significant potential cause of death. that would appear, on the face of it at least, to rule out some sort of overdose with these kind of pills. it would be harder to overdose on thyroid medication, blood pressure medication, and tylenol. the mystery deepens. we do get a press conference around 5:00 p.m. eastern today. hopefully, we will learn a lot more there, emily. >> jonathan hunt, thank you. my first thought, i think like everyone, was what a tragedy,

carbon monoxide poisoning. now, we learn more. i am not a pathologist, but apparently it can take months for a body to mummified depending on the environment, which is curious. in santa fe, the air is so dry. at times, heart pressure medication can be deadly when mixed or -- we are talking but a 95-year-old for one of them, but the 65-year-old is part of the question. i should have preface this by saying what a tragic loss for our culture. we love gene hackman, prayers for the family. the mystery thickens. there's a lot of unanswered questions still. >> my thing is the dog. whether you are talking about a potential overdose, we don't know information on that. what happens to the dog? another might seem like a small point, but if those two happen to have overdosed, what happened to the dog? did they die of starvation because it had been months? okay, we need to know that, but the state of the dog and the two of the dog's surviving strikes me as odd.

why did one dog died, the two of them die, the other are okay? that to me is the unknown factor and the variable that could be interesting. >> 100% i hope that they are autopsying the dog as well. steve, what did you cover on "fox & friends" about this? >> we did exactly the same as everybody is doing. the family told tmz that they thought it was probably accidental carbon monoxide poisoning. they haven't ruled out. it's going to take three weeks to get back -- toxicology re report. tomi, i'm with you on the dog. here is the thing, the dog was locked in a closet. the closet is in the bathroom. why would you lock a dog in a closet? sheet, the wife, was about 10-1n the closet with the pills and stuff like that. any time it's some of the famous, we always look at something sinister when there are all these moving parts.

their pills, two people dead in different parts of the house. it's probably something simple, but at this point because we don't know, everybody's imagination is running wild. we love that guy in the movies. what happened? nobody knows. >> a lot of us with families, generations, you set up a system where you check-in and make sure everything is okay. i text my dad. he text me every morning before he wakes up, i text him every night. proof of life. the point is, this was a married couple with dogs. they had a caretaker. they had staff it's hard to look back in hindsight and say "i wish someone had known." the reality is you are less inclined when you have a family in the home. >> i think the kids said "we don't talk to him all the time." >> months. >> it's been months. i also wondered, she was, i read, 63. you say 65. she is really young. this is strange.

he's 95. he could fall and suffer a serious injury. that's understandable, but horrible. but she is young. surprising, and also i have not seen a picture of gene hackman in 30 years. he is skinny now. i thought "this man must have some kind of serious disease close was. i know he's 95, was really elderly, but what is going on? there's so many questions: the dog, the wife, the age, his physical attributes prior to his death. that's where my mind went. >> when the patrol deputies arrived, they say they found no signs of forced entry, and apparently, the worker who called and said he was outside, so he was just looking in and saw something suspicious. when they arrived, according to the foxnews.com report, the front door was ajar. that's interesting. you read into every sign, like why was the front door a jar? my biggest takeaways how do you go weeks, potentially, to the

point of mummification? usually someone would've called, someone would have wondered why are they answering? it seems very bizarre. >> i have a theory but i will tell you during the commercial, because it's crazy. [laughter] >> coming up, president trump is set to sign a historic executive order later today, establishing something that our country has never had nearly in its 250 year history. zyrtec allergy relief works fast and lasts a full 24 hours so dave can be the... deliverer of dance. ok, dave! let's be more than our allergies. zeize the day with zyrtec.

>> president trump and ukrainian president zelenskyy are meeting in the oval office, taking questions right now. you can see pictures coming in. we are getting some newsy readouts from what's taking place. we aren't showing it to life, but as soon as we get it, we will show it to you. president trump was asked about the security guarantee is, the

ones he would like europe to provide, not the united states. he replied according to the producer "i want to talk about security yet. once the deal is done, it's over. russia is not going to want to go back in close quotes. zelenskyy was asked "you were a movable. you said the deal was unpalatable to you earlier. what changed?" he replied "we made a deal. i didn't think we were going to make a deal." i suppose some would call the art of the deal. we are about 30 minutes away from this signing. over to this. fox news is confirming that president trump is set to sign a historic executive order later today, on top of that rare earth minerals signature. this would establish that our country would have a first-ever official language, english. trumps order will declare english as the national language of the united states. it resends a clinton era mandate that requires federal agencies

and recipients of federal funding to require blank which assistance to nonenglish speech speakers. something they promise -- on the campaign trail, talked about uniting the country under one language a little over a year ago. >> we have languages coming into our country. we don't have one instructor in our entire nation that can speak that language. these are languages. it's the craziest thing. they have languages that nobody in this country has ever heard of. >> it's interesting. we have never had an official language in the country. i guess we will starting today. we know 30 states have set english is the official language, and j.d. vance, interestingly enough, a senator -- propose an act to do just this and it ended up not going anywhere. >> some folks might look at this as small or petty, like the gulf of america, but for me, it's donald trump saying "we are going to put america first. let me show you all the ways we are going to put america first. we going to respect our language as english, we will call it the gulf of america, we will be proud of our country. the apology to her for the

united states is over, and we are going to be proud to be american. this is the language we speak." i also think this is part of reinforcing the immigration stance this president has. listen, you are not going to come to our country from all over the world and establish yourself. you are a visitor, you will speak english, you will learn our ways, you will assimilate into our culture. for me, this is just further signifying that. i think it's a great step in saying "this is our country. we are not going to let our culture and values go out the window. this is not a globalist idea or a narrative anymore." i think it's great for the america first agenda. >> we are a diverse nation, and a nation were 78% of households use english as their primary leg which. this is kind of solidifying something that is very much the case for the majority of u.s. households. >> and some argue -- it's obvious, we are part of this sphere anyway. this is how it has been, so why aren't we concretize and what's already been in existence? i think the arguments over

efficiency, this commitment to stewarding our taxpayer dollars is where the crux of the argument would be best made. if this means that all court documents and everything and all the money that we pay, the millions of translations -- if that only put that onto an as-needed basis, is that cheaper? great. is this something that's streamlining the administration-based process? i think so. frankly, that's easier. a lot of people i think are going to thwart this. for dominic critics will force this and called a racist undertone, when it is in reality for streamlining efficiency. an important note to make about the unity of under the sea was in a conflict. i think as long as we are not wasting money and saving money, it's a great argument. >> assimilation has always been part of the idea behind a u.s. immigration. that's why there is a requirement, the demonstrated ability to write or speak english on a naturalization

test. >> the land of the free. i think it has always been felt -- it's always been felt that you should be able to be free and speak whatever leg would you want. a friend in new jersey, his father-in-law died about two weeks ago. the day he died in new jersey, every day he lived there for 50 years, he spoke croatian. he lived kind of a narrow life, because there weren't many people who spoke croatian, but that's just one of the things that goes on. when i passed my new jersey driver's license test, there is a question "do you need a translator?" i think there were 30 or 40 different translators of different linkages. ultimately, it comes down to if you want to be in the united states, to your point, to pass a citizenship test, you have to be able to read, write, and speak english. it's the cost of admission to this great big club. >> i am kind of surprised we haven't done this already.

that was my shocker at reading this story. i will say one thing. this is one of the problems that europe has had in integrating the immigrants into their culture. they've lived separately, speak different linkages, cannot communicate, and it's created chaos for so many countries. speak of the flip side. i will say this. my grandfather never spoke english. he only spoke sicilian. >> you probably could a little bit. >> i'm from the generation where my dad wanted us to be american so he didn't want us to speak what he thought was a dying language. it was hard for us because i couldn't understand what my grandparents were saying. i get the gist, but -- and i think at the time, those homogeneous committees weren't important. you could argue now that the extreme complexity and diversity means that this is a move toward commonality that everyone can share rather than those distinct groups that needed that comfort zone to thrive. >> be bilingual, that's great. speak two, three languages. one of them should be english. >> president trump says the goal

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vice president vance cut into the conversation and said the path to peace and prosperity is engaging in diplomacy. zelenskyy interrupted the vice president and set "we signed a deal with putin. he did not keep it. what kind of diplomacy are you talking about?" the vice president according to our producer mentioned something about being disrespectful. zelenskyy and vance had a back and forth, and president trump cut in and said "do not tell us what we are going to feel." i have been." i would imagine that was directed to zelenskyy and not his vice president. president trump said "you are not in a good position. you are gambling with world war iii," to which vance said "have you set thank you once?" and president trump said "you've talked too much." indeed, the back and forth was hot. we have this for you right now. watch this live from the

oval office. >> if it didn't align myself with both of them, we never have a deal. you want me to say really terrible things about putin and then say "hi, vladimir, working on the deal?" i am not aligned with putin or anybody. i'm aligned with the united states of america and for the good of the world. i'm aligned with the world. i want to get this over with. you see the hatred he's got from putin. it's tough for me to make a deal with that. he has tremendous hatred. i understand that, but i can tell you the other side -- not exactly in love with him either. it's not a question of alignment. i am aligned with the world. i want to get the things that i am a -- aligned with europe. i want to see if we can get this thing done. you want me to be tough? i can be tougher than any human being you've seen. i'd be so tough, but you are never going to get a deal that way, so that's the way it goes.

one more question. >> for four years, the united states of america, we had a president who stood up at press conferences and talk tough about vladimir putin, and then putin invaded ukraine and destroyed a significant chunk of the country. the path to peace and the path to prosperity is may be engaging in diplomacy. we tried the pathway of joe biden, of thumping our chest and pretending that the president of the united states' words mattered more than the president of the united states actions. what makes america good country is america engaging in diplomacy. that's what president trump is doing. >> can i ask you? >> yet. >> okay. he occupied it, big parts of ukraine, parts of east and crimea. he occupied it in 2013 -- he occupied it there. so, during a lot of years -- i'm

not speaking about just biden, but the time was obama, then president trump, then president biden, and now president trump -- and god bless, now president trump will stop it here -- during 2013, nobody stopped him. he occupied and killed people. >> 2015. >> 2014. >> oh, 2014. i was not here. >> yeah, but during 2014 until 2022, what they're saying -- people have been dying. nobody stopped him. we had conversations with him. multilateral conversations. we signed with him -- like a new president. i signed with him the deal. i signed with him, m -- emmanuel macron, a cease-fire. all of them told me that he

would never go -- yes, but after that, he broke the ceasefire. he killed our people. he did not exchange prisoners. we signed the exchange of prisoners, but he didn't do it. what kind of diplomacy you are speaking about? what do you mean to make. >> i'm talking but the kind of diplomacy that will end the discretion of your country. mr. president, with respect, i think it's disrespectful for you to come into the oval office and try to litigate this in front of them american media. right now, you are forcing conscript to the front lines because you have manpower problems. you should be thanking the president fort -- into this country. >> have you ever been to ukraine that you see the problems we have? >> i have been to -- >> come once. >> i have watched and seen the stories, and i know what happens is you bring people on a propaganda tour, mr. president. do you disagree that you have problems bringing people into

your military? >> we have problems. >> i do think it's disrespect will succumb to the oval office of the united states of america and attacked the administration that's trying to prevent the destruction of your country? >> a lot of questions. let's start from the beginning. first of all, during the war, everybody has problems, even you. but you have nice touch and don't feel now, but you will feel it in the future. >> you don't know that. you don't know that. >> god bless. you will not -- to work. >> don't tell us what we are going to feel. we are trying to solve a problem. not tell us what we are going to feel. >> are not telling you, i'm answering the question. >> you are in no position to dictate what we are going to feel. >> you will feel infinite. >> we are going to feel good and strong. >> you will feel influenced. >> right now you are not a very good position. you've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position that he happens to be right about. >> from the beginning of the war -- >> you are not in a good position. you don't have the cards right now. with us, you --

but right now you don't have the cards. >> mr. president, i am very serious. i am the president. >> millions of people. you are gambling with world war iii. you are gambling with world war iii. what you are doing is very disrespectful to this country. far more than a lot of people said they should have. >> heavyset thank you once >> have you said thank you once? you campaign for the opposition october all -- words of appreciation for the united states of america and the president who is trying to save your country. >> please. you think that if you will speak very loudly about the war, you -- >> he's not speaking loudly. your country is in big trouble. >> can i answer? >> you've done a lot of talking. your country is in big trouble. >> i know. >> you are not winning this. you have a damn good chance of coming out of k because of us.

>> mr. president, our country -- staying strong from the very beginning of the war. i said thank you in this cabinet, in this cabinet. >> we gave you -- through a stupid president $350 billion. >> you -- while you were president. >> they had to use our military. >> we -- >> if he didn't have the military equipments, if you didn't have our military equipment, this war would have been over in two weeks. >> in three years, i heard from hooton. in three days. >> may be less. >> two weeks. of course he has. >> it's going to be hard to do business like this. >> just say thank you. >> i said it multiple times. >> accept that there are disagreements. let's go litigate those disagreements, rather than trying to fight it out in the american media when you are wrong we know you are wrong. >> you see, i think it's good for the american people to see what's going on here. i think it's very important. that's why kept us going so long. you have to be thankful.

you don't have the cards. >> i am. >> people are dying. you are running low on soldiers. listen: you are running low on soldiers. it would be a good thing -- and then you tell us "i don't want a cease-fire. i want to go and" -- if you can get a cease-fire right now, i tell you, take it so the bullets stopped flying and your men stop getting killed. >> of course i want to stop the work. >> you said you don't want a cease-fire. i want to cease-fire. >> i said to you we want guarantees. >> you can get a cease-fire faster than the agreement. >> talk to our people about a cease-fire. what do they think? asking you -- >> that was not with me. that was with a guy named biden who is not a smart person. >> but it was your president. >> excuse me, that was with obama who gave you sheets come and i gave you javelins. i gave you the javelins to take out all those stacks. obama gave you sheets. in fact, the statement as obama gave sheets and trump gave javelins.

you have got to be more thankful. let me tell you: you don't have the cards. with us, you have the cards, but without us, you don't have any cards. >> mr. vice president -- >> a tough deal to make. the attitudes have to change. >> what if russia breaks cease-fire? what do you do then? have said -- this conversation right now. >> what are you saying? >> she is asking what russia breaks the cease-fire. >> what if anything? what if a bomb dropped on your head right now? okay? when tell mike what have been broken? they broke it with biden because biden didn't respect him. they didn't respect obama. they respect me. when i tell you come up hooton went through a lot with me. he went through a phony witch hunts where used him and russia. you ever hear of that deal, that was a phony -- hunter biden, joe biden scam.

hillary clinton, shifty adam schiff who was -- it was a democrat scam. he had to go through that. he did go through it. we didn't end up in a war. he went through it. he was accused of all that stuff. he had nothing to do with it. it came out i hunter biden -- it came out of hunter biden's bathroom. it came out of hunter biden's bedroom. it was disgusting. then, they said oh, the laptop from hell was -- russia, the 51 agents." he had to put up with that. he was being accused of that. he may have broken that with biden. maybe he did. i don't know what happened. but he didn't break them with me. he wants to make a deal. i don't know if he can make a deal. the problem is, i have empowered you to be a tough guy. i don't think you would be a tough guy without the united states. your people are great, but you either have to make a deal or we

are out. if we are out, you will fight it out. i don't think it's going to be pretty. you will fight it out, but you don't have the cards end. once we sign that deal, you are in a better position, but you are not acting at all thankful, and that is not a nice thing, i'll be honest, that's not a nice thing. all right, i think we've seen enough. what do you think? i this is -- this is going to be great television, i will say that. we will see what we can do. [cross chatter from reporters] >> the sausage making of american diplomacy typically takes place behind the scenes. it is typically adjacent to the oval office and cabinet room where you have the tough

conversations, and then the united front or the tea leaves are delivered in front of cameras and the oval. we are left to discern whether it was a good or bad meeting, but you just saw live the sausage making of american diplomacy in the oval office before all of our eyes pickets five years, seven months, four days from the first time these men spoke. during the first conversation, zelenskyy said he had a lot to learn from president trump. he said "you are a great teacher for us and can can teach us how to drain the swamp." i think we are a long way from that moment many years ago. some context i think you will need to know of things that have been going on behind the scenes that have led to this acrimony. there have been several points in this relationship, one of which was february 12th, where president trump accused zelenskyy of oversleeping for a meeting with the treasury secretary, scott bessent. he felt that was disrespectful. not only that, but secretary of state marco rubio had this to

say. "trump is upset with zelenskyy. biden was upset with zelenskyy. i am upset with zelenskyy. zelenskyy told vance and me he's okay with the deal, but later publicly said he rejected the deal." steve, as i look at all of this, and we saw this transpire into what was a caustic back and forth, the impetus i think was very important. they were having a nice conversation, and then you had j.d. vance speak, then you had zelenskyy talk about "what kind of diplomacy are you talking about" and take on an accusatory tone to the vice president, for which the vice president said "you should come in here being very thankful. we've given you $183 billion, and you come to the oval office with this close quotes. >> you are exactly right to set up the way you did. we've never seen anything like that before where it played out in real time. usually -- they come out and say "okay, we had the disagreement," but we got to see the

disagreement. if i had to guess, for mr. zelenskyy at one point essentially blamed trump, obama, and biden. you guys never stop to when you had the chance. that's not smart to do. donald trump, you had the chance and blew it, essentially is what he was doing. for a while, it kind of seems to me like j.d. vance and trump were playing good cop/bad cop, where trump was being the diplomat and j.d. vance said "say thank you." eventually, mr. zelenskyy wound up arguing a lot and groveling. ultimately, this could be like what we saw a week ago where donald trump referred to him as a dictator and a third great comedian and stuff like that, to get a better deal for the united states. for him to have an argument on television in front of the whole world, suddenly the world will -- trump won that,

zelenskyy will have to do something. >> i think that's a good point. the american public, we have seen -- we are giving $183 billion in aid. their questions with that money to ukraine. you would think zelenskyy would be grateful in front of cameras, certainly, for that. instead, we had this moment where he challenged the vice president. the context i mentioned, i want to bring it up so our viewers can see. this is from axios. this describes that meeting that i think is a huge part of the souring of this relationship. february 12, treasury secretary -- met zelenskyy in kikyiv to offer a proposal that would give the u.s. access ukrainian mineral rights in return for defective u.s. protection. trump told reporters zelenskyy was rude and delayed his meeting because he slept in. that is not the posture that i think a power would ordinarily take when given aid. i mentioned i was in the meeting

with the iraq -- prime minister. he saw a mutual respect relationship between someone who had received u.s. taxpayer aid and someone who is grateful for it and wanted to work with our country. >> and i think the presence of cameras casts a dimension on this which is very important in the realm of diplomacy. what we saw is a president that has been exhausted by putin's continued invasions of his country, but he is ascribing the failure to deter on the current administration with two administrations past. i have only compassion for him and his people, and i can't imagine exhaustion and rage he must feel, but vice president vance was absolutely apt when saying "you should not be litigating this in front of the american media," and the point of diplomacy, which president zelenskyy was asking about -- "we don't trust the deal. we have gone through it and it

doesn't work." president and vice president vance are saying there is a new sheriff in town, so "you have to believe us." i think under the auspices of -- and currently in the american oval office in front of the american president, commander-in-chief, his vice president, and a friend of the american media picked vice president vance pointing out "you've gone on a media public press, public relations tour that's subverted a lot of our policies." i think what we are seeing is someone who is at their wits' end, but taking it out in ways that are deeply damaging to the fragility and importance of diplomacy in the current administration that has done everything it can to support and will continue to while under the value system of america first. i was deeply disappointed by this exchange because it seems so stressful. it also goes to show, follow the headlines about how easy it is for -- president trump's job.

it's not. it's a hard position for commander in chief to inherit what happened before them and make good decisions, so bravo president trump and vice president vance. >> they are saying affect that's inescapable. putin went in under their watch -- there was a four year hiatus. it happens to be the four years of president trump. when president trump says he might've broken deals with obama and bush but hasn't broken them with me, there's facts to prove that. >> i think president trump was rightfully insulted by the way president zelenskyy has been acting and acting for years now. don't bite the hand that feeds you is essentially what i got out of that. trump repeatedly said "you don't have the cards." it was like a father swatting down their toddler who repeatedly have their hand out asking for loans but doesn't want to mow the lawn. what he is saying is "we want to help you, but the way you have paraded yourself in front of media for years, hollywood audiences, the fanfare on --

covers. the way you have the sense of entitlement as you ask us for money and guarantees. now i'm trying to give you a deal that is good for my people and for your people, and your disrespect will." whereas you didn't like the exchange, i loved it. america is back. this is the president of the of the united states of america, and he's going to act like it. repeatedly, it seemed as though zelenskyy had his arms crossed like a toddler. you're not going to act like that with president trump. maybe president biden, but not this administration, this country. i love watching this play out in front of us. >> we as americans, as voters, only get tea leaves that we pick up on. we get reporting from sources inside meetings. one item i picked up on that i couldn't get out of my mind was when secretary of state marco rubio said biden would call and yell at zelenskyy. he referenced reporting that the biden administration would give this aid, zelenskyy would go out publicly and say "the americans

are not giving me x, y, and z." there was the attitude of ungratefulness that it seems also proliferated during the biden years according to the tea leaves referenced by rubio. >> and because of that, i agree with tommy. i am glad to see this made public. i think it's fantastic. now you understand what we're up against. now you know what we see in the public arena, in the private arena usually. -- we are getting a lot of pushback. that's the way it's working. i think a lot of americans, particularly on the left, think "we have enough money in. we have enough macho whate whatever --" it takes a lot. you saw the president put him in his place. you said something before we came to eric, tomi, about zelenskyy not wearing a suit. he's just not showing any respect, period. >> i would call it the million-dollar question. i'm going to call it a

$183 billion question. president trump said it would be signed at 1:00 p.m. that's 2 minutes and 45 seconds. it's hard to imagine them inc.ing a deal in that short of time. >> in that press conference where both sides are together -- "you ask two questions," and on each side it would be "so when the cameras went away, who wanted to strangle each other?" it obvious they didn't go well. ultimately, zelenskyy wanted this meeting because he wanted security guarantees from the united states of america. he's not going to get them. trump has even said "i am not going to talk about that until a peace deal is signed." it's probably not going to be a peace deal today. it's going to be a stuff deal for rare earth and stuff like that. if i was donald trump, every time i have a world leader i've got a problem with, in the oval office, bring the cameras.

forget about the smoke-filled rooms. i think after decades of being told what happened and years later we find out "it wasn't exactly like this," there is no disputing what we just saw. not only is that good tele television, as donald trump said, but it's really good for the american people to see what's going on behind the scenes. >> emily, in just a few moments, the role of vice president j.d. vance is interesting. he went on the world stage, challenged europe, challenge them on free speech. he got a ton of criticism in the so-called mainstream media, but he got a lot of accolades from a lot of americans saying he is saying how it is. j.d. vance was the touchstone once again, kind of saying it like it is and challenging zelenskyy. >> and he's a veteran. this is someone who was coming into the oval office, the vice president, and sitting across from a current president who, with his attire and demeanor, seeks to remind everyone he is currently in the

war and a sitting across from someone who knows what that was like. i think we have talked about this, that his relationship with the senate, with the hill, his relationship as well and that front i think does well to say "you have to remember who you are talking to this time around," meaning this administration. >> the last four years, the presidential press conference was rare. the free will and with -- present biden was rare. american diplomacy played out in a way that i don't think we have seen, certainly in modern history. now, the overarching question as we approach the 1:00 p.m. our, just a few seconds from now, is is the rare earth mineral going to be signed to? tonight on "special report," you can't miss it. sitting down with the ukrainian president after that intense exchange between him and president trump. >> sandra: all right, we will take