scorch senator cruz can burden burp thealphabet backwards. >> bret: can you always count on senator kennedy for a good one there. monday on "special report" a preview of president trump's address to congress. technically not called the state of the union but please join shannon bream for "special report." her guests are tulsi gabbard, the director of national intelligence and chris van holland the senate of the foreign relations committee. remember, if you can't catch us live set your dvr. you can follow me on x and instagram at bret baier for exclusive behind the scenes content. we have put a lot of it this week with all of those interviews. if you are a world leader, you're welcome on "special report." we had three of them this week. that did it fair, balanced and still unafraid. "the ingraham angle" starts now. ♪ >> laura: good evening, everyone, i'm laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle" from new york city tonight.

the smackdown heard around the world. ♪ hit the road, jack ♪ and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, ♪ hit the road, jack ♪ and don't you come back no more ♪ lawyer. >> the president has kicked zelenskyy out of the white house. his delegation right now is telling him that he has got to go home. the president felt disrespected the lunch they were supposed to have is sitting right outside the hallway. the press staffers are going to be eating that lunch. >> no deal? [shouting questions] >> is the deal off? >> president zelenskyy, can you tell us what happened? >> did you sign the minerals deal? >> is the deal off? >> laura: as usual, the babylon

bee perfectly summed up today's zelenskyy's oval office. zelenskyy tried bold new strategy of insulting the people is he begging money from. is he a diplomatic genius. on the ukraine deal his snotty behavior and -- rolling took a done deal on rare earth to a no deal on scorched earth. >> during the war, everybody has problems. even you. but you have nice ocean and don't feel now but you will feel it in the future. god bless. >> you don't know that. >> god bless. >> you don't know that. >> god bless you are not at war. >> you don't tell us we are going to feel. we're trying to solve a problem. don't tell us when we will feel. we will feel very good and strong. >> you will feel influence. >> you are not in a good position. you don't have the cards right now. >> we're not playing cards. mr. president. i'm very serious, mr. president. >> millions of people. you are gambling with world war

iii. you are gambling with world war iii. and what you are doing is very -- disrespectful to the country. >> laura: zelenskyy constantly speaking over the president bass simply dumb on every level. the one person, one he had to impress today was donald trump. and he failed that test miserably. as for trump's approach. he told zelenskyy he didn't want to hear something. it was called the truth. >> your country is in big trouble. >> i know. >> you're not winning. >> i know. >> you are not winning. this you have a damn good chance of coming out okay because of us. >> mr. president, we are staying strong in our country from the very beginning of the war we have been alone. we are thankful. >> you haven't been alone. you haven't been alone. >> we gave you through the stupid president $350 billion. we gave you a military equipment and your men are brave but they had to use our military

equipment. if you didn't have our military equipment. >> you invited me to speak. >> if you didn't have our military equipment, this war would have been over in two weeks. >> all true. now zelenskyy plays warrior in his costume but he doesn't realize his act is wearing very thin and his banker, us, well i empowered you to be a tough guy. i don't think you would be a tough guy without the united states. and your people are very brave. but you are either going to make a deal or we're out. and, if we're out, you will fight it out. i don't think it's going to be pretty. but you'll fight it out. but you don't have the cards. but once we sign that deal, you're in a much better position. >> laura: now, today was the day that the pro-ukraine war hawk crowd lost their cause. look, if you have lost lindsey graham -- >> i have never been more proud of the president. i was very proud of j.d. vance standing up for our country.

we want to be helpful. what i saw in the oval office was disrespectful and i don't know if we can ever do business with zelenskyy again. >> do you think president zelenskyy needs to resign to resume these peace talks? >> he either needs to resign and send somebody over that we can do business with or he needs to change. >> laura: now, kinzinger, cheney, vindman, the whole crowd, their hero, the man who suspended elections in his own country, who basically did away with free expression who banned thousands of orthodox churches, came to town with an impew tent hectoring approach, expecting, i guess, to be treated like he was at harvard's kennedy school or maybe at the oscars. >> with this gentleman on my right and we look forward to keeping that going for a long period of time.

thank you very much. thank you. >> thank you, mr. president. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you, mr. president. >> laura: they were gracious. they weren't morons. but, any leader, especially leader who has received, what, about 250 billion? who is counting in aid and arms and humanitarian aid from the united states? enters the white house and then disrespects the respect, well, you can bet that the 77 million americans who voted for donald trump will not support any further engagement. zelenskyy was like an annoying gnat. he never shut up in camouflage. but, by about dinnertime on the east coast, volodymyr zelenskyy had a slight attitude adjustment. on set with bret baier, there was apology for rude behavior but -- >> bret: i'm not hearing from you, mr. president the thought that you owe the president a an apology. >> no.

i respect the president and i respect the american people. and if -- i don't know, if -- think that we have to be very open and very honest. and i'm not sure that we did something bad. >> laura: well, he ended up saying he thinks the repr r-e-s-respect can besalvaged. finally got that out of him. that's all well and good. the man is still not living in reality. we fund and have funded the lion's share of this war. and we're not funding it any longer, period. trump is driving the negotiations here. and so zelenskyy needs to lose the attitude. >> do you think the public spat in the oval office, in front of the media, served ukrainians well today? >> i think this kind of -- this kind of spat is -- is, i mean, this -- we have -- i mean, this is not good for both sides,

anyway. and i will -- i'm very open but i can't, you know, change our ukrainian attitude to russian. and i don't want -- they are killers for us. this is very clear that americans are the best friends. europeans are the best of our friends. and putin, with russian, they are enemies. and it doesn't mean that we don't want peace. we just want to recognize the reality. the real situation. >> laura: look, i think the spat in public was actually refreshing. now, all these diplomats, all these globalists, the same people who failed america in negotiations and meetings, iraq, afghanistan, throughout the middle east, they love having an all play out behind closed doors. that way there is no accountability when they screw up. but it was very important for america to see zelenskyy's entrance sense today. >> i think it's good for the

american people to see what is going on that's why i kept it going so long. he knows the show. sunlight is the best disinfectant. right now zelenskyy and his enablers biggest obstacles towards peace. >> we are not looking for somebody who is going to sign up a strong power and not make peace because they feel emboldened. that's what i saw happen. we are looking for peace. i'm we're not looking to go into a 10 year war and play games. we want peace. and it was just my impression that if we do that, if we sign up, he is looking for something that i'm not looking for. he is looking to go on and fight, fight, fight. we're looking to end the death. >> laura: joining me now karoline leavitt white house press secretary. caroline, you were in the room where it all happened. take us inside that room for a moment, would you, and then please tell us what you believe the president will say in response to what zelenskyy said on bret baier's show.

>> sure, well, thanks for having me, laura. it was incredibly tense in that room. and things turned bad and bitter very quickly because, unfortunately, president zelenskyy refuses to recognize the pragmatic reality about the war that his country is facing. this war has been going on for years. his country men are dying. and, most of all, president zelenskyy failed to recognize that he is walking into the oval office with a new sheriff in town. that sheriff is donald trump. is he a peace maker in chief. he wants this war to end. and he understands that his people, the american people are sick and tired footing this bill to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars it's very unfortunate for the ukrainian people and for president zelenskyy that he walked in with this mindset of give, give, give be, from the american people without much gratitude for what the american people have done for his country over the past few years. and so, he was on the brink of

signing an economic agreement that would have ensured economic prosperity for the ukrainian people and recouped american taxpayers for funding this war. instead, because of his rude and antagonistic ways the deal blew up in his face. president trump wants peace. he remains committed to that president zelenskyy either needs to change his attitude or perhaps he can't make a deal at all. >> laura: karoline, we are hearing different narratives tonight. is president trump in the mood at all to revisit this mineral deal, given what happened earlier today? >> well, i think the president remains committed to peace. and he wants to see this war end. that hasn't president's intention all along. don't forget he talked about this extensively on the campaign trail. as soon as he was elected on november 5th. before he was even inaugurated he talked to zelenskyy. his team started negotiations to end this war. and more has been done in a month by president trump and his team to move towards a tangible

and lasting peace than the previous three years under. >> >> laura: karoline, i'm sorry to interrupt. i am talking about the deal. had the table set up. the room set up to sign that mineral deal. >> that's right. >> laura: what now? >> well, we'll have to see. and it's up to president trump, the next move that he makes. i think he made it very clear today. and asking president zelenskyy and the ukrainians to leave the white house. zelenskyy is not in the right mindset. again, the minerals deal was an economic framework. and it was the first step towards a peace deal. zelenskyy came into the oval office talking about security guarantees, talking about what europe wants to do. the president has been talking to europe, too. he had the leaders of france and the u.k. here this week precisely to talk about how to end this war. and so, again president zelenskyy, the president is not going to back down doing what is

right for the american people. that's what this economic partnership was. it would have recouped the hundreds of millions of dollars we funded for this war and good for the american people as well. >> laura: susan rice and others tonight have said this was an ambush, a set up, this was the plan all along for vance and trump to go at him and create this drama? your response? >> that's absolutely not true. president trump was excited about this economic agreement. and it was president zelenskyy, if you roll the tape, who actually antagonized the vice president in front of the cameras and picked a fight with him. and as president trump said, i think it was great that the cameras were rolling because the american people and the entire world got to see what president trump and his team have been dealing with behind closed doors in the negotiations with the ukrainians. they have been, again, incredibly hard-headed and all president trump wants is peace. and in order to negotiate peace, both sides have to come to the table.

both sides have to talk. and both sides in a good deal usually walk away a little unhappy. president zelenskyy failed to recognize that and, again, this is not the previous administration. joe biden is no longer in that oval office. we are no longer going to write blank checks to a war very far away without real lasting peace. and that's what the president wants. >> laura: karoline who made the decision to cancel the lunch? how did that go down? did you have any of it? >> well, the president enjoyed the lunch. he figuratively and literally ate president zelenskyy's lunch today. but it was his decision. he felt as though president zelenskyy was not in a place to negotiate peace at this point in time. >> laura: karoline as always, great to see you. >> laura: what did happen in that immediate aftermath of the over office blowup that was before president trump threw zelenskyy out of the room. joining me now one of the men trump consulted treasury secretary scott bessent.

always great to have you on. i know you were in the room with vice president vance and secretary rubio after everything went down. who suggested that zelenskyy needed to hit the road? >> look, laura, it was a group decision that president zelenskyy needed to be moved out of the oval. and i got to tell you we were in shock. this has to be one of the greatest diplomatic, the mishaps of all time by president zelenskyy. we were having a press conference. we were going into lunch and then we were going to sign the economic partnership agreement. this was supposed to be a day where ukraine and the u.s. intertwined our economic prospects and, instead, president zelenskyy and i think he is probably used to dealing with american leadership that is weak. and he ran into president trump. and who didn't back down. vice president vance who didn't back down. they were asked to leave the

room. then he had they had to be asked to leave the building. they were texting everyone, begging to come back out and sign the economic partnership. i will tell you it's impossible to have an economic partnership for someone who doesn't want to be your partners in peace. >> laura: you dealt with this firsthand, did you not? i know you had a meeting scheduled, an economic meeting scheduled a few weeks back with president zelenskyy. and tell us about his arrival and p punkality and lack thereof and seemed a little sleepy during the event? >> laura, i want all the way to kyiv, i thought it was important. president trump sent me there to, again, we were supposed to bring the ukrainian people closer to the u.s. people, send a strong signal to russian leadership that we had not only shared values now shared economic interest. and also have a strong signal for the american people.

that their tax dollars were actually going to work. instead very tough 45 minute meeting at a very loud decibel level. and i kept telling him, mr. president, the purpose of this is to show the russians there is no daylight between us. and at the end of the meeting he said well, i'm not signing. this i said at the end of the meeting i said to him what do you want to go out and tell the press? he said because i said i don't want to go out and show the russians that there is daylight in between us? and he said well, i'm going to go out and say i will sign it in munich. then he got munich and he ran into vice president vance and secretary rubio, you know, very different. the vice president harris and secretary blinken. but he didn't sign the agreement. so finally we were supposed to have the signing today. it was supposed to be a great day. and this is one of the biggest ungoals in diplomatic history.

>> laura: mr. secretary, was he late to the meeting? is his demeanor? what i'm trying to get at here maybe in congruent way is this seems to be a pattern with him. he seems to be the obstacle towards peace, to getting it to peace. and, with you, reports were he was late to the meeting. was he? >> you know, look. there it's very difficult to tell what's time. his office is this building they keep dark because of potential drone strikes. so, we had had a security breafing. we were supposed to have a longer meeting beforehand, so, it was just the two of us in a room for an hour, we couldn't come to an agreement. but i have to tell you, laura, today i was shocked that he would behave like this on camera in front of the world when we were -- if he had issues he wanted to bring up with

president trump, the proper venue for that would have been 15 minutes later. we were going to walk into the white house dining room, and have lunch just 16 of us. and he could have the voiced his concerns privately. i actually think, you know, everyone is -- the democratic side of the ledger is saying oh, this was a setup. vice president vance and president trump set up president zelenskyy. i think he was always going to do this. i think he was surprised with the forceful reaction he got back. >> laura: mr. secretary, this was something to behold. people say oh, look, trump was the aggressor. i mean, zelenskyy was coming to get help from the united states. continued help. and he disrespected his host. you just don't do that i have never seen anything like that but i think it was very useful for the american people to see this. we appreciate your efforts economic wise and otherwise.

the media revised it's favorite smear. can you guess what it is on tik. within a week of posting, i had over $25,000 in sales. i don't have a million dollars to put towards marketing and branding. tiktok was the way and it saved my company. we had a video do really good this week. sales were up 29%. about 80% of my business right now is from tiktok. small businesses thrive on tiktok. tiktok brings in so much foot traffic. i need tiktok to keep growing. we have so much more work to do.

i'm not a doctor. i'm not even in a doctor's office. i'm standing on the streets talking to real people about their heart. how's your heart? my heart's pretty good. you sure? i think so. how do you know? you're driving a car, you have the check engine light. but the heart doesn't have a hey, check heart sign. i want to show you something. put both fingers right on those pads. there you go. in 30 seconds we're going to have a medical-grade ekg reading. there it is! that is you. look at that. with kardiamobile, you can take a medical-grade ekg in just 30 seconds from anywhere. kardiamobile is proven to detect atrial fibrillation, one of the leading causes of stroke. and it's the only personal ekg that's fda-cleared to detect normal heart rhythm, bradycardia and tachycardia. how much do you think this device costs? probably a thousand. - $99! - wow. that's impressive. the special edition kardiamobile red is available for just $79 for a limited time only. that's a $20 savings. don't wait! get one for yourself or a loved one

at kardia.com or amazon today. ♪

when i got diagnosed with skin cancer, it was right under my eye. i was told that surgery was the only option, and i did not want to get cut open on my face. i asked my women's group to pray for me,

and one of the other ladies told me about the procedure that her friend had and it was gentlecure. if you, like millions of others, are affected by skin cancer, it's important to know that surgery isn't the only option. there's another choice, gentlecure. gentlecure uses low energy x-rays to kill cancer cells with a 99% cure rate. plus, there's no cutting, no surgical scarring, and no downtime. i had no pain. i have no scars. and i'm cured. amazing. to learn more, call today or go to gentlecure.com. >> you didn't have our military equipment. this war would have been over in two weeks. >> in three days in putin.

>> he went to pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in october all for some words of appreciation for the united states of america and the president who is trying to save your country. >> oh. >> every time i see j.d. vance's situations like that. i say thank god donald trump. brilliant. somehow shocking was it democrats when they get desperate, they reach into their old musty drawer of failed arguments. >> what you watched was american power being destroyed world everybody watches. president trump become a lap dog for a brutal dictator in moscow. >> there was one winner in this, putin and his cronies are probably popping champagne bottles right now. >> the president of the united states is working on behalf of russia. >> laura: russia, russia, russia. a broken record been skipping. hear it.

since 2015. now, need a new playbook. these guys are saying all day long, i have never been more embarrassed to be an american, they should never be more embarrassed to be a political party after those responses. the president himself could not have been clearer today. >> i'm looking to get into any protracted. i want immediate peace. president putin is going to make it and he wants to make -- he wants. >> laura: peace now not later. joining me me now missouri senator erec smith. you and i have been on trump force one together to see this exchange i'm sorry i enjoyed every minute. it was classic trump. classic vance and zelenskyy cannot read the room. can't read the country, forget the room. >> i think zelenskyy and so many others are just so used to american leaders being weak and telling him what he wants to hear and not telling the truth. president trump and j.d. vance are entering into new era of american realism.

our interest reign supreme. we need to focus on china. they were very clear today. i just think and i also have golfed with president trump from time to time. today for zelenskyy this was a gym my, this was a one foot putt that he just blew past the hole with his arrogance and smugness only person on the plan netanplanet to bringpeace. he couldn't say thank you and listening as opposed to popping off he got escorted out of the oval office and the white house. this thing is really in jeopardy now. but i'm glad the american people have a president and vice president who are willing to stand up for them. >> laura: but our friends over at msnbc did not like the public nature of this. we might have the soundbite because it's actually pretty funny to hear. they didn't like this idea that these conversations were being held for the country to see for the world to see because they

are used to holding things close behind closed doors. you don't know what is really said. you don't know what happens in the room. and they prefer it that way. but, do you believe that this was actually educational? >> oh, i think people saw what this whole thing is about. i have been on your show before expressing frustration. many of us have been saying for the last two years that this blank check for an endless war where they can't articulate what victory looks like is an insult to the american taxpayer. and american taxpayers are tapped out. president trump is delivering that message and so with very few cards to play zelenskyy came to town and could have got one step closer to a peace deal saving hundreds of thousands of ukrainians lives. again, i don't know if he really was that dumb today or is he getting terrible advice, that was the exact wrong way to deal with president trump and j.d. vance today. >> laura: i don't think any of this was planned on his part from what scott bessent just

told us, this is the way he was in the treasury secretary's meeting. he was kind of -- he kind of waltzed in, that's who he is. i'm sorry, ukrainian people don't deserve this trump wants peace and wants it now. old friend susan rice. peacemaker i think susan rice, not. she came out today and very embarrassed. watch. >> zelenskyy was compelled to agree to a horrible deal that would have set ukraine's minerals to the united states without any concrete security guarantees. the vice president of the united states lit into him. j.d. vance did that deliberately. >> this was really -- i have never been embarrassed to be an american and today was embarrassing. it was awful. layer. >> laura: he is embarrassed.

adam kinzinger is embarrassed. do they realize they're hurting their cause being on television. any positive outcome for ukraine? >> yeah, the america last crowd has always got something to say. i think today was telling. i think people should pay attention to the people defending zelenskyy, versus the people defending america. so it's kind of a defining day. i think a fault line that had existed for a while is now out in the open. and it's very, as you said, it's very educational and instructive. the truth of the matter is we are americans. that's our president. and no foreign leader comes into the oval office and disrespects us that way. >> laura: never. >> especially when we are trying to help. >> could you ever imagine joe biden in any sense of the word he would just basically sit there and nod and hold those cards in his hand, those big magic marker writing in hope -- but he was used to dealing with biden or whoever was pulling biden's strings and it's like the boss man. the boss man is back in charge. you don't disrespect the boss. senator, always great to spend time.

thank you. all right, up next, elon musk with joe rogan. oh boy, i watched. this what the billionaire said about the democrats' relentless hits on doge, coming up. ♪

(♪) ♪ three little birds ♪ ♪ (steel drums playing lightly) ♪ (♪) (♪) (♪) (♪) (♪) (♪) tons of sweet dentists on zocdoc. dr. stafford's a real beauty.

and people say he's passionate about dentistry! dr. taylor's on thirty-third street... we could practically skate there! booked it! sweet! you've got options. book now. ♪

>> what is it like to buy a company for $44 billion and then people call you a nazi on that same thing that you bought? >> i did not see it coming. [laughter] >> the left was in love with you and now the same idiots are calling you a nazi. there are so many examples of people saying my heart goes out to you: >> obviously meant in the most positive spirit possible. now i can only point at things diagonally i can only point at things there and there and have to divide that because that's where the spaceship is over there. >> laura: they were actually a lot of fun.

three hours joe rogan and elon musk. they talked about everything. they talked a lot about the novel approach in trump 2.0 this is not like the first term. revolutionary cabinet since the first revolution. this is why quite challenging to appoint people who are going to change the system. >> yeah. >> the system doesn't want to let him through. >> yep, not just that, being a target as he is. he has a huge security team and for good reason. >> i think i'm at the top of the list for a lot of homicidal maniacs doing the same thing to me they did to trump. they are making it sound like if you kill me, you are a hero. that's what they are doing is evil. if the legacy media is saying that i'm a nazi nazi and that's

all you read. then you are kind of like shouldn't assassinate hitler should we. >> laura: mary katharine ham fox news contributor talk about this and went down in the oval. alex, big news day. elon and joe used to be darlings of the left. >> interesting point here laura i hadn't thought of, why did we just give the nazi the 45-degree salute? we can only have the 90-degree or zero degree. who consented to this? doesn't make you nazi because you put your hand up at 45-degree angle. so absurd. no one actually thinks is he nazi. isn't that the fundamental question. do you actually think musk is a nazi? no one really thinks that. anyone who used that logic just clearly a partisan that doesn't like that he is threatening the bureaucracy. the whole point of doge is that musk points this out in the interview, laura, he thinks half

the government is waste. half of the government is waste. he points out how a stacey abrams funded ngo got $100 and turned that into $2 billion that is the biggest scandal i ever heard of. we just blew through it. we just blew straight through it. >> laura: she is brilliant. one thing about this sitdown they did in the interview. they were having a lot of fun. serious topics discussed. but i think conservatives just are having a good time liberals no fun. mary kathleen there was a conversation about fort knox. >> tour live is the gold there or not? they say it is. is it real or did someone spray paint led. >> i wonder if a lot of it is missing? what it like half of it is missing? [laughter] >> how do we know? we don't know. they said the last time someone looked at it was decades ago. >> the last -- i believe the last formal audit was in the 50's. [laughter]

so i'm like, okay. maybe we should check it again. >> laura: mary katharine ham was fun to watch. today in the oval office fun to watch and educational at the same time. >> in the case of rogan and musk, first of all that would rate if you did the live tour and they know that. i also think that when it comes to just talking, a lot of the left is sort of confused about we need our own rogan. how do we do this? the problem is rogan and musk aren't right leaning per se. they just have freedom to talk and enjoy themselves. and the problem with the left is that he they made freedom to talk and enjoy themselves right coded so if anyone has a free ranging conversation and tell a few jokes ends up being a right leaning person in their book. they gave away that part of the game. that wasn't smart. people like to listen to people who are having gun fun, free

ranging conversations. >> laura: what does it say to the democrats that they pushed all these people out of the party. they pushed them all out. robert f. kennedy jr. joe rogan probably elon musk. the list is only going to get longer and longer. alex and mary katharine, thank you. zelenskyy is dressed for success and stripped down. raymond arroyo just us next. ♪ honestly, i was scared when i was told age related macular degeneration could jeopardize my vision. great. one more thing to worry about.

it was all too hard to deal with in the beginning, but making a plan with my doctor to add precision was easy. preservision areds2 contains the exact nei recommended, clinically proven nutrient formula to help reduce the risk of moderate to advanced amd progression. thanks to preservision, i feel better that i'm doing something about it like millions of others. preservision. ok guys, instead of getting weathertech, i saved a few bucks and got some cheap, foreign made floor mats. but they really stink, so put these on. ♪

really, gary? mom, i'm thirsty. don't settle for cheap, stinky floor mats. at weathertech we make our floorliners and cargo liners here in america, out of pure non-toxic american materials. dad, next time get weathertech. they don't stink! i'm on it. find out everything we have at wt.com.

from the #1 rated brand in cordless outdoor power, the ego zero-turn riding mower with e-steer technology. drives like a car. turns on a dime. and it cuts up to 2.5 acres on a single charge. find an ego retailer near you.

lawyer it's friday and that means it's time for "friday follies." for that we turn to fox news contributor raymond arroyo: i was in hysterics laughing during this entire deal with zelenskyy. but he arrived today and the president had eyes on him. >> well, you know, laura, president trump doesn't miss much. including whether one is properly dressed for the occasion. all dressed up. >> why don't you wear a suit. >> i will wear. >> i like your clothing. >> i don't know if you like each other. do you know what? i like this guy. >> i think he is dressed beautifully. >> trump was trying to be gracious, laura and a gracious host. but, honestly, when you are

coming in for a peace deal, put a suit on. he used to wear suits. a suit is not a costume. his war greens re grail i can't that's a costume like the one he wore on the cover of vogue in 2022. you get this whole thing dress up. he is not exactly winston churchill. i think when churchill wanted america to get involved in world war 2, could you imagine him coming over here and insulting fdr? elon musk doesn't wear suits either, we should say and wears hats and t-shirts in the obama office. is he not asking for money. is he volunteering. is he volunteering his services. >> he is trying to give your money back. not take it. so you have got to dress for the occasion. but, boy, that thing was like wwf friday night smack down. by the way, laura, after that zelenskyy-trump clash, lunch was canceled. the press office staffers ate it according to jacqui heinrich.

i guess he was hard up for a meal from the white house. he had a bilat with burger king. no word on whether that meeting went well or not. we will see. >> laura: no. he did not go to burger king. >> i don't think so. he went to bret baier. and, laura, it we got to talk about this other topic milan fashion week. they unveiled an entire new -- you sent this to me, actually, this story. a new line of jeans but the them up in seconds. i heard of bell bottoms but bare bottoms are probably a bad idea. >> laura: wait. this is so disgusting. okay? first of all, imagine sitting on that chair after one of these characters has sat in a chair. but, what are they called now crack jeans? >> raymond: that's what i call them crack jeans no matter who wears them the crack is apparent. they are moon jeans, i guess. i wouldn't even dare try those things. dangerously low riders. >> remember that guy who sang

the pants on the grou ground so. pants on the ground. whats you going to do. >> he wasn't a designer. this is ridiculous. and continuing our theme of embarrassment. yesterday, a great fanfare, two great fanfare a group of influencers left the white house bearing binders containing the epstein files phase one, laura. just one problem. >> laura: nothing in it. >> raymond: all the information in the bernie sanders were all in the domain. epstein's address flight logs. interns running around like they got wonka's golden tickets. a run down of alleged pedophiles. i don't know why they are smiling and waiving binders around. >> here is the thing you should do before wave it around. look at it. check it out first. >> read it first. >> laura: most of it was redacted. that was oversold. and we have an update on pope francis' health. it's incredible. his condition had worsened in the second week of hospitalization adofergd the vatican.

i know you have worked and conferred with the vatican for almost three decades, raymond. have you interviewed so many popes. what's the latest? >> the pope is 88 years old. fighting double pneumonia. >> breathing crisis. is he now on noninvasive ventilators, condition is precarious. they have been having nightly public roseries in st. peters square for the pope's help. that really hasn't happened since the last days of john paul the ii he only has a lung and a half. >> laura: 88 years old, amazing, given his condition 15 years ago. raymond, thank you so much. great to see you have. great weekend. coming up president trump reveals what biden told him about the coup against him. ♪

whether you're moving across town or across the country. save up to 20% at pods dot com today.

♪ imagine checking your own heart with medical precision from anywhere. introducing kardiamobile 6l, the fda-cleared ekg that provides 6-times more heart data than any smartwatch. and it detects 3 of the most common arrhythmias in just 30 seconds, including atrial fibrillation,

bradycardia and tachycardia. check your heart with the most advanced personal ekg outside the hospital. get yours at kardia.com or amazon. ♪

>> to have this kind of confrontation in the oval office it is totally astounding. >> a day of shame for the united states. trump administration sent a signal it was ceding america's traditional global leadership role. >> everybody felt today a kind of chill understanding that this was a very different united states. >> the chill is for that backdrop of hers. the pro-war crowd embarrassing themselves once again today after zelenskyy, their guy, watched his meeting in the oval office. he will obviously have to keep crawling back. joining me now fox news contributor and editor-at-large at the spectator i have to get your take on what went down. this is who they are embarrassed by? >> they should be absolutely

embarrassed on behalf of every neocon and biden adjacent advisor who has been giving advice to president zelenskyy over the past couple of months and look at that pennsylvania trip he took with josh shapiro and everything associated with that. the foolishness he has displayed in this time is absolutely ridiculous. laura, i like ukraine, i would like ukraine to come out on the positive end of this conflict of this war. but the simple fact is that everything zelenskyy has been doing for the past several months has hurt his concert. hurt it in a completely desperate and terrible way and the simple fact is he should have walked into that oval office and said i am happy to be here with the president to has backed us. who gave us javelins back in 2018 when obama would not. ukraine right to exist against the russians back when he was

president, was defined because now, signing an agreement with us, the trump peace rare earth minerals plan that will lead us to peace and to the ability to end this terrible war. instead what does he do? he basically sounds like a "new york times" editorial page off at author. i say this is somebody who is not in any way in favor of coming out the positive end of this but vladimir putin is laughing to the bank today. it is ridiculous the idiocy he displayed in the oval office. it is heinous and to ever advised him to say that i don't know where they were coming from. but it was awful. >> the ukrainian people are the ones were they suffering tonight and that is not funny. we know who president trump thinks blue today's ukraine deal that you spoke with him yesterday and he told you who he thinks pool of joe biden's presidential run watch.

>> who do you blame? and he said i blame barack. and also nancy pelosi. he said no i don't blame her which was interesting. he did not blame her. >> does he think kamala was too stupid to planet? >> it is it almost sounds like he feels she was used as a patsy, right? the simple fact is that look, i am honored by the fact of the trump just to give me this interview, it is the longest interview he has given yet as president the second time around frankly there is a lot more to it putting out the spectator in the coming week. what i want to say is it is very clear from his perspective that joe biden blames barack obama and nancy pelosi for what happened to him. not kamala harris which i think

is something that the democratic party really needs to wrestle with. or you really going to let barack obama and nancy pelosi continued to run your party or are you going to actually check yourself, look within and say these are not winners. these are not people who will leave us on a path to victory going forward it. i ask what advice he would give to democrats going forward and he basically said they needed to check themselves when it came to all of these sessions particularly on cultural were issues we will see whether they are actually willing to do that. >> i think that is one of the rare issues joe biden i don't have agree on. him to blame. they both agree it was barack, clooney, with lucy. great to see you tonight congrats on the interview we will be watching and listening to the rest of it. that is it for us tonight make sure to follow me on social media some fun stuff on instagram, jesse watters is next. >> jesse: welcome to jesse watters prime time