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>> angle from new york city tonight. the smackdown heard round. >> the. >> world hit. >> the road. jack. and don't you come back no more. >> no more, no more. >> no more. hit the road, jack. and don't you come back no more. >> the president has kicked zelensky out of the white house. his delegation right now is telling him that he's got to go home. the president felt disrespected. the lunch that they were supposed to have is sitting right outside the hallway. and the press staffers are going to be eating that lunch. >> mr. president, is the real deal. mr. president, can you tell us what is. >> the deal off? >> president zelensky, can you tell us what happened? yeah. yeah, yeah. do you want to. >> did you sign the minerals deal? >> off the bottom?

>> as usual, the. >> babylon bee. >> perfectly summed up today's zelensky oval office performance. saying zelensky tries bold new strategy. >> of. >> insulting the people he's begging for money from. >> well, come on, zelensky. >> is super talented. >> he's a diplomatic genius. >> in fact, on the ukraine deal. >> his snotty behavior and eye rolling took a done deal on rare. >> earth to a no deal. >> on scorched. >> earth during the war. everybody has problems, even you. but you have nice ocean. and don't feel now. but you will feel it in the future. god bless you. god bless you. god bless you. >> you don't tell us what we're going to feel. we're trying to solve a problem. don't tell us what we're going to feel. we're going to feel very good and very strong influence. you're right now not in a very good position. you don't have the cards right now with us. you start having cards. cards? right now you don't. you're playing cards. you're playing cards. you're gambling with the lives of millions of people.

you're gambling with world war three. you're gambling with world war three. and what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country. >> now. >> zelensky's supercilious. >> air. >> constantly speaking. >> over the president. >> was simply dumb on. every level. >> the one. >> person. >> one he. >> had to impress today was donald trump. >> and he failed. >> that test miserably. as for trump's. >> approach. >> he told zelensky he didn't. >> want to hear something. >> and it was called the truth. >> your country is in big trouble. >> i know. >> you're not winning. you're not winning this. you have a damn good chance of coming out, okay? because of. >> us president, we are staying in our country, staying strong from the very beginning of the war. we've been alone, and we are thankful i said thanks. >> you haven't. >> been in this cabinet. you haven't been in this. >> we gave you. >> through this. >> stupid president, $350 billion. we gave you military equipment. you and your men are brave. but they had to use our

military. if you didn't have our military equipment. >> you invited. >> you didn't have our military equipment. this war would have been over in two weeks. >> all true. now zelensky plays warrior. >> in his. >> costume. >> but he doesn't realize. >> his. >> act is wearing very thin. and his banker? us? well, we're out of money. >> the problem is, i've empowered you to be a tough guy. and i don't think you'd be a tough guy without the united states. and your people are very brave. but you're either going to make a deal or we're out. and if we're out, you'll fight it out. i don't think it's going to be pretty, but you'll fight it out. but you don't have the cards. but once we sign that deal, you're in a much better position. >> now, today was the day that the ukraine war hawk crowd lost their cause. look, if you've lost lindsey graham. >> i have never been more proud of the president. i was very proud of jd vance standing up

for our country. we want to be helpful. what i saw in the oval office was disrespectful. and i don't know if we can ever do business with zelensky again. >> do you think president. zelensky needs to resign to resume these peace talks? >> he either needs to resign and send somebody over that we can do business with, or he needs to change. >> now, kinzinger, cheney, vindman, the whole crowd, their hero, the man who suspended elections in his own country, who basically did away with free expression, who banned thousands of orthodox churches, came to town with an impudent, hectoring approach, expecting, i guess, to be treated like he was at harvard's kennedy school, or maybe at the oscars. now think about how other european leaders handled their visits to the white house leaders, who also have some pretty profound differences with the trump administration. >> with this gentleman on my right. and we look forward to keeping that going for a long

period of time. thank you very much. thank you. >> thank you, mr. president. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. thank you, mr. president. >> they were gracious. they weren't morons. but any leader, especially a leader who's received, what, about 250 billion? who's counting and aid in arms and humanitarian aid from the united states enters the white house and then disrespects the president? well, then you can bet that the 77 million americans who voted for donald trump will not support any further engagement. zelensky was like an annoying gnat. he never shut up in camouflage. but by about dinnertime on the east coast, volodymyr zelensky had a slight attitude adjustment on set with bret baier. there was still no apology for his rude behavior. but. >> so i'm not hearing from you, mr. president, a thought that you owe the president an apology. >> no, i respect the president,

and i respect american people. and if i don't know if i think that we have to be very open and very honest, and i'm not sure that we did something bad. >> well, he ended up saying, well, he thinks the relationship can be salvaged. he had 2 or 3 chances to say he was sorry. it can be salvaged and you know he is sorry. if there was a misunderstanding, he finally got that out of him. that's all well and good, but the man is still not living in reality. we fund and have funded the lion's share of this war, and we're not funding it any longer. period. trump is driving the negotiations here, and so zelensky needs to lose the attitude. >> do you think the public spat in the oval office in front of the media served ukrainians well today? >> i think this kind of this kind of spat is i mean, this we have i mean, this is not good

for both sides anyway. and i very open but i can't, you know, change our ukrainian attitude to russia. and i don't want the achilles for us. you know, this is very, very clear that americans are the best of our friends. europeans are the best of our friends. and putin with russian, their enemies. and it doesn't mean that we don't want peace. we just want to recognize the reality, the real situation. >> but look, i think the spat in public was actually refreshing. now all these diplomats, all these globalists, the same people who failed america and negotiations and meetings, iraq, afghanistan, throughout the middle east, they love having an all play out behind closed doors. that way there's no accountability when they screw up. but it was very important for america to see zelensky's intransigence today. >> but you see, i think it's

good for the american people to see what's going on. i think it's very important. that's why i kept this going so long. >> he knows the show and sunlight truly is the best disinfectant. and right now, zelensky and his enablers are the biggest obstacles toward peace. >> we're not looking for somebody that's going to sign up a strong power and then not make peace because they feel emboldened. and that's what i saw happening. i'm looking for peace. we're not looking to go into a ten year war and play games. we want peace. and it was just my impression that if we do that, if we sign up, he's looking for something that i'm not looking for. he's looking to go on and fight, fight, fight. we're looking to end the death. >> joining me now, caroline leavitt, white house press secretary. caroline, you were in the room where it all happened. take us inside that room for a moment, would you? and then please tell us what you believe the president will say in response to what

zelensky said on brett baer's show? >> sure. well. >> thanks for having me, laura. and it was. >> incredibly tense. >> in. >> that room. and things turned. >> bad and. bitter very. quickly because. >> unfortunately. president zelensky refuses. >> to. >> recognize the pragmatic reality about the war that his country is facing. this war has been going on for years. his countrymen are dying, and most of all, president zelensky failed to recognize that he is walking into the oval office with a new sheriff in town. and that sheriff is donald trump, and he is a peacemaker in chief. he wants this war to end, and he understands that his people, the american people, are sick and tired of footing the bill for this war to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars. and so it's very unfortunate for the ukrainian people and for president zelensky that he walked in with this mindset of give, give, give or from the american people without much gratitude for what the american people have done for his country over the past few

years. and so he was on the brink of signing an economic agreement that would have ensured economic prosperity for the ukrainian people and recouped american tax dollars for funding this war. instead, because of his rude and antagonistic ways, the deal blew up in his face. president trump wants peace. he remains committed to that. but president zelensky either needs to change his attitude or perhaps he can't make a deal at all. >> well, caroline, we're hearing different, different narratives tonight, but it is president trump in the mood at all to revisit this mineral deal, given what happened earlier today? >> well, i think the president remains committed to peace and he wants to see this war end. that has been the president's intention all along. don't forget, he talked about this extensively on the campaign trail as soon as he was elected on november 5th, before he was even inaugurated. he talked to zelensky. his team started negotiations to end this war, and more has been done in a month by president trump and

his team to move towards a tangible and lasting peace than the previous three years under caroline. >> back to that. i'm sorry. i'm sorry to interrupt, but, caroline, i'm talking about the deal. of course you are all set up. you have the table set up, the room set up to sign that mineral deal. that's right. and we are now. >> well, we'll have to see. and it's up to president trump the next move that he makes. but i think he made it very clear today and asking president zelensky and the ukrainians to leave the white house that zelensky is not in the right mindset. and again, the minerals deal was an economic framework and it was the first step towards a peace deal. but zelensky came into the oval office talking about security guarantees, talking about what europe wants to do. well, the president has been talking to europe, too. he had the leaders of france and the u.k. here this week precisely to talk about how to end this war. and so, again, it's unfortunate circumstances for president zelensky, but the president is not going to back down in doing

what's right for the american people. and that's what this economic partnership was. it would have recouped the hundreds of billions of dollars that we've funded towards this war. and it would have been good for the ukrainian people as well. >> caroline. susan rice and others tonight have said that this was an ambush, a set up, that this was the plan all along for vance and trump to go at him and create this drama. your response? >> that's absolutely not true. president trump was excited about this economic agreement, and it was president zelensky. if you roll the tape, who actually antagonized the vice president in front of the cameras and picked a fight with him. and as president trump said, i think it was great that the cameras were rolling because the american people and the entire world got to see what president trump and his team have been dealing with behind closed doors in the negotiations with the ukrainians. they've been, again, incredibly hard headed in all, president trump wants is peace. and in order to negotiate peace, both sides

have to come to the table. both sides have to talk, and both sides in a good deal. usually walk away a little unhappy. president zelensky fails to recognize that. and again, this is not the previous administration. joe biden is no longer in that oval office. we are no longer going to just write blank checks to a war very far away without real lasting peace. and that's what the president wants. >> caroline, who made the decision to cancel the lunch, how did that go down? and did you have any of it? >> well, the president enjoyed the lunch. he figuratively and literally ate president zelensky's lunch today. but it was his decision. he felt as though president zelensky was not in a place to negotiate peace at this point in time. >> caroline, as always, great to see you. what did happen in that immediate aftermath of the oval office blow up? that was before president trump through zelensky out of the room. joining me now, one of the men trump consulted, treasury secretary scott bessent. mr.

secretary, always great to have you on. now, i know you were in the room with vice president vance and secretary rubio after everything went down, who suggested that zelensky needed to hit the road. >> well. >> look, laura, it was a group decision. >> that president zelensky needed to be moved out. >> of the oval. >> and i got to tell. >> you, we were. >> in shock. >> this has to be one of the greatest diplomatic. >> the most mishaps. of all time by president zelensky. >> we were. >> having a press conference. we were going into lunch, and then we were going to sign the economic. partnership agreement. >> this was supposed to. >> be a day. where ukraine and the us intertwined our economic prospects. and instead, president zelensky and i think he's probably used to dealing with american leadership that is weak. and he ran into the president trump and who didn't back down, vice president

vance, who didn't back down. they were asked to leave the room. then they had to be asked to leave the building. and they were texting everyone begging to come back out and sign the economic partnership. and i tell you, it's impossible to have an economic partnership for someone who doesn't want to be. your partner in peace. >> well, you dealt with this firsthand, did you not? i know you had a meeting scheduled. an economic meeting scheduled a few weeks back with president zelensky. and tell us about his arrival and punctuality, or lack thereof. and it seemed a little sleepy during the events. >> yeah. >> so, laura. >> i went all the way to kyiv because i thought it was important. president trump sent me there to again, we were supposed to bring the ukrainian people closer to the u.s. people send a strong signal to russian leadership that we had they had not only shared values, but now shared economic interests and also have a

strong signal for the american people that their tax dollars were actually going to work. instead, president zelensky and i had a very tough 45 minute meeting at a very loud decibel level. and i kept telling him, mr. president, the purpose of this is to show the russians there is no daylight between us. and at the end of the meeting he said, well, i'm not signing this. and i said at the end of the meeting i said to him, what do you want to go out and tell the press? he said. i said, because i don't want to go out and show the russians that their daylight. the daylight in between us. and he said, well, i'll, i'm going to go out and say, i'll sign it in munich. then he got to munich and he ran into vice president vance and secretary rubio, very different than vice president harris and secretary blinken. but he didn't sign the agreement. so finally, we were supposed to have the signing today. it was supposed to be a great day. and this is one of the biggest own goals in

diplomatic history. well, and. >> mr. secretary was was he late to the meeting and did he is his demeanor. i mean what i'm trying to get at here, maybe in an incongruous way, is that this seems to be a pattern with him. he seems to be the obstacle toward peace, to getting to peace. and with you. reports were he was late to the meeting. was he. >> you know, look there. it's very difficult to tell what time you his his office is this building they keep dark because of potential drone strikes. so we had a security briefing. i we were supposed to have a longer meeting beforehand. so it was just the two of us in a room for an hour. we couldn't come to an agreement. but i have to tell you, laura, today i was shocked that he would behave like this on camera in front of the world when we were. if he had issues, he

wanted to bring up with president trump, the proper venue for that would have been 15 minutes later. we were going to walk into the white house dining room and have lunch, just 16 of us, and he could have the voiced his concerns privately. i actually think everyone's the democratic side of the ledger is saying, oh, this was a setup. vice president pence and president trump set up president zelensky. i actually think he was always going to do this, and i think he was surprised with the forceful reaction he got back. >> mr. secretary, this was something to behold. people say, oh, well, trump was the aggressor. i mean, zelensky was coming to get help from the united states, continued help, and he disrespected his host. you just don't do that. i have never seen anything like that. but i think it was very useful for the american people to see this. and we appreciate all your efforts, economic side and

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now they just need a new playbook. i mean, these guys are saying all day long i've never been more embarrassed to be an american. they should never be more embarrassed to be a political party. after those responses. but the president himself could not have been clearer today. >> looking to get into anything protracted. i want immediate peace. president putin is going to want to make and he wants to make. he wants. >> peace now, not later. joining me now, missouri senator eric schmidt. senator, you and i have been on trump force one together and to see this exchange. i'm sorry, but i enjoyed every minute because it was classic trump classic. vance and zelensky cannot read the room. cannot read the country. forget the room. >> well. >> i think. zelensky and so many others are just so used to american leaders being weak and telling them what he wants to hear and not telling them the truth. president trump and j.d. vance are ushering in a new era of american realism, where our core interests reign supreme.

right? our european allies need to step up. we need to focus on china. and they were very clear today. i just think and i also have golfed with president trump from time to time today for zelensky, this was a gimme. this was a one foot putt that he just blew past. >> the. >> hole with his arrogance and his smugness. it totally backfired. the biggest losers here are the ukrainian people. because you have an american president, the only person on the planet, laura, who can bring peace. and he couldn't bring himself just to say thank you today, to say thank you and just listen as opposed to popping off. and then he got escorted out of the oval office and out of the white house. so this thing is really, you know, in jeopardy now. and i think that but i'm glad the american people have a president and a vice president who are willing to stand up for them. >> but but our friends over at msnbc did not like the public nature of this. we might have the sound bite because it's actually pretty funny to hear, but they didn't they didn't like this idea that these conversations were being held for the country to see, for the

world to see, because they're used to holding things close behind closed doors. you don't know what's really said. you don't know what happens in the room, and they prefer it that way. but do you believe that this was actually educational? >> oh, i think people. saw what this whole thing is about. i mean, i've been on your show before expressing frustration. many of us have been saying for the last two years that this blank check for an endless war where they can't articulate what victory looks like, is an insult to the american taxpayer, and american taxpayers are tapped out. president trump is delivering that message. and so, with very few cards to play, zelensky came to town and could have got, you know, one step closer to a peace deal, saving hundreds of thousands of ukrainian lives. but again, i don't know if he really was that dumb today or he's getting terrible advice, but that was the exact wrong way to deal with president trump. >> that's the. >> j.d. vance today. >> i don't think i don't think any of this was planned on his

part from what scott bessent just told us. this is the way he was in the treasury secretary's meeting. he is kind of he kind of waltzed in, you know, that's who he is. and i'm sorry the ukrainian people don't deserve this. trump wants peace and he wants it now. now, your old friend susan rice. because when i think peacemaker, i think susan rice not. but she came out today and she's very embarrassed. watch. >> zelensky was compelled to agree to a horrible deal. >> that would have set. >> ukraine's minerals to the united states without any concrete security guarantees. the vice president of the united states laid into him. j.d. vance did that deliberately. >> but it was. >> this was. >> really you know, i've never been embarrassed to be an american. and today was embarrassing. >> and it. >> was it was awful. >> he's embarrassed. adam

kinzinger, do they realize they're actually hurting their cause by appearing on television? i mean, it's making it harder to get to any type of any positive outcome for ukraine. >> yeah, the america last crowd has always got something to say. but i think today was telling, and i think people should pay attention to the people who were defending zelensky versus the people who were defending america. so it's a kind of a defining day. i think a fault line that had existed for a while is now out in the open, and it's very, as you said, it's very educational, it's very instructive. but the truth of the matter is we're americans. that's our president. and no foreign leader comes into the oval office and disrespects us that way, especially when we're trying to help. >> i mean, can you ever imagine joe biden in any sense of the word? he would just basically sit there and nod and hold those cards in his hand. those with big, big magic marker writing and hope for the i mean, but he was used to dealing with biden or whoever was pulling biden's strings. and it's like the boss man, the boss man is back in charge. and you don't disrespect the boss. senator, always great to spend

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lot of fun. three hours. joe rogan and elon musk, they talked about everything, but they talked a lot about the novel approach in trump 2.0. >> this is nothing like the first term. >> this is a revolutionary cabinet and maybe the most revolutionary cabinet since the first revolution. this is why, you know, some of the senate confirmations were quite challenging when you put try to appoint people who are going to change the system. >> yeah. >> the system doesn't want to let them through. >> and not just that being a target as he is, he has a huge security team and for good reason. >> i think i'm at the top of the list for a lot of homicidal maniacs. they're doing the same thing to me that they did to trump. >> yeah. >> which is they're making it sound like if you kill me, you're a hero. that's. what they're doing is evil. if the legacy media is saying that i'm a nazi and that's all you read.

then then that, then you're kind of in like, well, he's hitler. we should assassinate hitler, shouldn't we? >> joining me now, alex marlow, editor in chief of breitbart news, mary katharine ham, fox news contributor, to talk about this and also talk about what went down in the oval today. alex, it was such a big news day. both rogan and elon used to be darlings of the left. now i guess they just like zelensky. >> yeah that's right. >> and it. >> must face a really interesting point here, laura, that i hadn't thought of that. why did we just give the nazis the. >> 45 degree salute? >> it's the what? >> we can. >> only have the 90 degree. or the 0 degrees and say. >> well. >> who consented to this? doesn't make you nazi because you put your hand up at a 45. >> degree angle. >> it's so absurd. like no. >> one actually thinks he's a nazi. isn't that the fundamental question? >> do you actually think. >> musk is a nazi? no one. really thinks that. >> so anyone who uses. >> that logic is just clearly just. >> a partizan. >> that doesn't. like that he's threatening the bureaucracy. the whole point of doge is that

that musk must points this out in the interview. >> laura, he thinks half the government. >> is waste. half the government is waste. he points out how a stacey. >> abrams funded. >> ngo got $100 and turned that into $2 billion. that is the biggest scandal i've ever heard of. and we. >> just. >> blew through it. >> we just. >> blew straight through it. >> yeah she's brilliant. so one thing i have to say about this sit down, they did in the interview, was that they were having a lot of fun. there were serious topics discussed, but i think conservatives just are having a good time and the liberals are no fun. mary catherine, there was a conversation about fort knox and the gold inside watch. >> i think like a tour of fort knox would be awesome. like a live tour of fort knox where can actually see it's like it's the gold there or not. they say it is like, is it real or did somebody spray paint some lead? you know. >> what if a lot of it's missing. what if like half of it's missing? >> i mean, how do we even know? >> no. they said the last time they let someone look at it was decades ago. >> yeah, well, the last i believe the last formal audit was in the 50s. so i'm like,

okay. >> oh my god, just think about all the other. >> things you've already. >> maybe mary katharine ham, this is fun to watch. today in the oval office was fun to watch and educational at the same time. well. >> i think in the case of rogan and musk, like first of. >> all, that would rate. >> if you did. >> the. >> live tour and they know that. i also think that when it comes to just talking, a lot of the left is sort of confused about like, we need our own rogan how do we do this? but the problem is rogan and musk aren't right leaning per se. they just have freedom to talk and enjoy themselves. and the problem with the left is that they made freedom to talk and enjoy themselves. right? coded. so anyone who has a free ranging conversation where they say some controversial stuff and tell a few jokes, ends up being a right leaning person in their book because they gave away that part of the game. and that wasn't smart, because it turns out that people like to listen to people who are having fun, free ranging

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gracious host. but honestly, when you're coming in for a peace deal. >> put a suit on. >> he used to wear suits. >> a suit. >> is not a costume. his war green's regalia. that's a costume like the one he wore on the cover of vogue in 2022. you get the feeling this whole thing is kind of dress up. i mean, he's not exactly winston churchill. >> yeah, well, i think when churchill wanted, you know, america to get involved in world war ii, can you imagine him coming over here and kind of insulting, you know, fdr just strafing the whole oval office? that probably wouldn't happen. elon musk doesn't wear suits either. we should say, and also wears hats and t-shirts in the oval office. but that's kind of his. he's not asking for money. he's volunteering. yeah, and he's volunteering his services. >> he's trying to give your money back, not take it. so, you know, you got to dress for the occasion. but, boy, that thing was like wwf friday night smackdown without a ref. but by the way, laura, after that zelensky trump clash, lunch was canceled. the press office staffers ate it, according to jackie heinrich. so he. i guess

he was hard up for a meal. so from the white house, zelensky had a bilat with another head of state, burger king. no word on whether that meeting went well or not. we'll see. >> no, he did not go to burger king. >> i don't think he went to bret baier. but look, i've and laura, we got to talk about this other topic, which is milan fashion week. they've unveiled an entire new. you sent this to me? actually. this story. it's a new line of jeans. we'll put them up in a second. and i've heard a bell bottoms, but bare bottoms are probably a bad idea. >> this, these. wait wait wait. >> this is. >> so disgusting. okay, first of all, imagine sitting in a chair after one of these characters have sat in a chair. but what do they call now? cracked jeans. >> that's what i call them. i call them crack jeans. because no matter who wears them, the cracks apparent. i mean, you sit down. suddenly they're moon jeans, i guess. i mean, i don't know how. i wouldn't even dare try those things on dangerously

low riders. >> remember that guy who's saying the pants on the ground song? pants on the ground. pants on the ground. what are you going to do with that? >> yeah. >> but he wasn't a designer. you know, this is ridiculous, but. and continuing our theme of embarrassment yesterday, a great fanfare to great fanfare, a group of influencers left the white house bearing binders containing the epstein files. phase one. laura, there's just one problem. >> nothing in. >> all the information in the binders were already in the public domain. epstein's redacted address book, the flight logs. but these influencers are running around like they've got, you know, wonka's golden tickets. they're supposedly a rundown of alleged pedophiles. i don't know why they're smiling and waving the binders around. >> they haven't. here's the thing you should do before you wave it around. maybe look at it. you know, maybe check it out. >> read it first. >> most of it was redacted. i don't know, i think that was oversold. all right. and we have an update on pope francis's health. it's incredible. right. his condition had worsened in the second week of hospitalization,

according to the vatican. and i know you've you've worked and conferred with the vatican for almost three decades. raymond, you've interviewed so many popes. what's the latest? >> well, the pope's 88 years old. he's fighting double pneumonia today. he vomited and aspirated it. laura, leading to a breathing crisis. he's now on a noninvasive ventilator. so just a mask. his condition is precarious. but the most telling thing to my eye is they've been having nightly public rosaries in saint peter's square for the pope's health. that really hasn't happened since the last days of john paul the second. so people around the world continue to pray for the pope. but, you know, he's 88 years old. he only has a lung and a half. so. >> you know, this. >> could go either way at. >> that age, 88 years old. amazing. given his condition 15 years ago. yeah. raymond, thank you so much. great to see you. have a great weekend. and coming up, president trump reveals what biden told him about the coup against him.

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>> pipe to. >> have this. >> kind of a. >> confrontation in the. >> oval office? it is totally astounding. >> certainly was a day of. >> shame for the united states. trump administration sent a signal that it was ceding america's traditional global leadership role. >> everybody felt. >> today a kind of. >> chill understanding. >> that this was a. >> very different. >> united states. >> the chill was for that backdrop of hers. all right. the pro-war crowd embarrassing themselves once again today after zelenskyy, their guy, botched his meeting in the oval office and will obviously have to come crawling back. joining me now, ben domenech, fox news contributor editor at large of the spectator. also interviewed president trump. we'll get to that. ben, i got to get your take on what went down. this was the pro-war crowd. like it's i've never been more embarrassed for america than today. really? that's who they're embarrassed by. >> laura. they should be absolutely embarrassed. >> on behalf of. >> every neocon and.

>> biden adjacent advisor who has been giving advice to president zelensky over. the past. couple of months. you know. >> we look back at that pennsylvania trip that he. >> took with josh shapiro and everything associated. >> with that. >> the foolishness that. >> he has. >> displayed in this time is. absolutely ridiculous. >> laura, i. >> like ukraine. i would like ukraine to come out on the on the positive end of this conflict, of this war. but the simple fact is that everything zelensky has been doing for the past several months has hurt his cause, hurt it in, desperate, in completely desperate and terrible way. and the simple fact is, he should have walked into that oval office and said, i am happy to be here with a president who has backed us, who gave us javelins back in 2018 when obama wouldn't, who had, you know, completely defended ukraine's right to exist against the russians back when he was president, who is defending us now and who is signing an agreement with us,

the trump peace. rare earth minerals plan that will lead us to peace and to the ability to end this terrible war. instead, what does he do? he basically sounds like a new york times editorial page, you know, op ed author. it's terrible. it's horrible. and look, i say this as someone who is not in any way in favor of russia coming out at the positive end of this, but vladimir putin is laughing to the bank today. i mean, it's just ridiculous, the idiocy that he displayed in the oval office is heinous. and whoever advised him to. >> say that? >> i don't know where they were coming from. i don't know who did it, but it was awful. >> the ukrainian people are the ones really suffering tonight, and. >> they really are. >> and that is really that is not funny. and so many, you know, russian people have died as well. now, ben, we know who president trump thinks blew today's ukraine deal. but you spoke with him yesterday and he told you who he thinks blew up joe biden's presidential run watch. >> i asked him, i said, so who

do you blame? because he was very angry. you know, he's a very angry guy, actually. and he said, i blame barack. and he said, and i also blame nancy pelosi. i said, what about the vice president? he said, no, i don't blame her. which was interesting. he didn't blame her. >> ben, does he think kamala was just too stupid and scheme to plan the ouster? >> it's almost it almost sounds like he feels like she was used as a patsy. right. i mean, the simple fact is that, look, i'm honored by the fact that donald trump chose to give me this interview. it's the longest interview he's given yet as president. the second time around, and frankly, there's a lot more to it that will be putting out in the spectator in the coming week. but what i just want to say is it's very clear from his perspective that joe biden blames barack obama and nancy pelosi. >> for. >> what happened to him, not kamala harris, which i think is

something that the democratic party really needs to wrestle with. are you really going to let barack obama and nancy pelosi continue to run your party, or are you going to actually check yourself? look within and say, these are not winners. these are not people who are going to lead us on a path toward victory going forward. i asked him what advice he would give to democrats going forward, and he basically, you know, said that they needed to check themselves when it came to all these extreme positions that they had, particularly on culture war issues. we'll see whether they are actually willing to. >> do that. i think that's where one of the rare issues joe biden and donald trump agree on is whom to blame. >> exactly. >> i agree, they both agree on it. was it was barack clooney. pelosi. okay, ben, great to see you tonight. congrats on the interview. we'll be watching and listening to the rest of it. that's it for us tonight. make sure to follow me on social media. some fun stuff on instagram. jesse watters is next. >> interesting. >> hello, i