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♪. mark: hello america i am mark levin this is "life, liberty & levin" saturday. thank you for being here to greet guests attorney general pam bondi israel's ambassador to the united states. but, before we get to them i have a question for you. one that has ever been asked. you hear it said all of the time that under article one of the constitution congress has the power of the purse. only congress. congress lays taxes. congress determines borrowing amounts. congress determined spending amount. so i have some questions for you is that an unlimited power is that a power that is unchecked? can congress do whatever it wants? whatever it once when it comes to spending, borrowing, taxing? of course they have to vote on it the present have to sign a course the present has veto

power. of course you have elections and people come and go. that is not my question. as a constitutional matter can congress do whatever it once with twantswith the power of th? let me give you an example. if congress passes a massive bill they pass an omnibus bill all the time were the members don't know what's in it. which raises a serious question in the first place. is that legitimate? our representatives spending money and they don't even know they're spending money on? and then they delegate the power to these massive actually dollars spending bill to a bureaucracy? that is not even in the constitution. does not represent us, we do not know who these people are. they put the bureaucracy that is legislating to make determinations about spending on the executive branch. i thought the determinations of the power of the purse remain in

congress. not by an unelected bureaucracy that is not in the constitution. that is establishing the executive branch. my first premise is this, much of what you see going on in society today is no connection to the constitution whatsoever. nothing. he wrote. the framers never contemplating anything to massive bureaucracy. the american marxist that's the progressives, they are the ones who came up with the idea, establish it. they're part of the democrat party pushed it hard, founde fu, created it. so, this whole thing that exists right now has no constitutional basis whatsoever. the lawyers out there will say that but the supreme court ruled. i do not care what the supreme court ruled i'm not talking about the supreme court. the supreme court in many ways has to make things work. i am talking about what is your constitution provide? your constitution not a supreme court in the 40s and so forth. your constitution.

it provides none of this. now, the power of purse they gave to congress not unelected judges. they are not the executive. the legislature makes spending determinations. but does it? what is an omnibus bill? at the massive spending bill the particulars of which nobody knows. and then it goes to the bureaucracy. i has no place in our constitutional construct. you have people who are mid-level bureaucrats lower level bureaucrats may be manager bureaucrats making decisions about hundreds of billions of dollars in where that money is supposed to go for it is out the framers had in mind? of course is not what they had in mind. that's not anything close to a constitutional construct that they or anybody else was contemplating. okay, next question. does congress have the power to bankrupt the country? under the spending clause? what, mark? i'm very serious about this.

borrowing taxing. does congress have the power to bankrupt our country? what you think the framers would say? of course not preset but limited government with checks and balances. article one gives what congress actually has. all of this spending that president trump at elon musk in the team are finding, the framers would be shaking their head. what does this have to do the federal government? what does this have to do with the american people? what does this have to do the constitutiowiththe constitution? nothing, zero. none of this is contemplated not because those of the old days and these in the modern days. no. in fact what's happening in our government is pretty primitive. nobody really knows what's going on. trouble comes in and says i want to know what is going on. i want to know what's going on in the executive branch whether they put the bureaucracy here i

got to take a look at it. that spending money left and right. including our vault in congress. the house the power of the purse. half a trillion dollars year up to half a trillion dollars says the gao is wasted. waste, fraud, abuse it. i am the president. i'm in charge of making sure the money spent wisely. no? the answer is yes. does congress have the right to fund fraud? under the power of the purse. fraud customer of course not. the executive has the power to find out if there is fraud, right? one of the federal judges doing? what about waste, fraud, abuse? does congress have power under power of the purse to spend money in ways tha incredibly wasteful and abusive? friend at the democrat party are

being larded up with millions of dollars with their so-called nonprofit organizations, nongovernmental organizations, some kind of ideological objective or whatever? does congress have that power? should it? should it? you never ask about the power of congress. look at congress over the last decade. congress cannot and get a budget done on time. ever. congress cannot ever balance the budget, ever. congress cannot get the debt under control, ever. or paying our children dollars soon to be 1.2 trillion dollars to finance the debt. now again, the framers of the constitution would never have imagined such irresponsibility. using the framers of your constitution would say it's a job of the president just to ignore it all and rubberstamping and rubberstamping?

so why do the democrats, the lector immediate academia white and the phony constitutional law professor saying basically donald trump from the executive has no role. despite the fact it's in the executive branch. they are cultural marxist economic socialist for this is what they want, this is what they have created. you see america if you begin going down into the process that what looking at what's taking place, you're destroying the whole idea of an omnibus spending bill. we the people o knowing of the spending is on. congress on the front and the omnibus on the spending and, and he says i want to take a look. they're fighting him. they're fighting him with their judges appeared the fighting him in the media. the fighting him in congress and with a constitutional crisis. what congress is doing is a constitutional for their something in the constitution that gives them the power to bankrupt the country.

there's something in the constitution gives them a ubiquitous spending and taxing power to spend, borrow whatever they want on whatever they want. and tax anyway they want. you could not write in a document and details that's not a mortgage is not a contract to purchase a car something like this. this is a governing document. they said early on at the people want virtuous the representatives aren't virtuous, this will not last. but no constitutional republic, especially ours, in other words you got a massive bureaucracy a fourth branch of government that has no constitutional basis whatsoever regardless of what the super import says, it has none. what's a supreme court? nine really smart lawyers in black robes. okay, let's not have a black robes and know what we are talking about for these omnibus

spending bills trillions of dollars inflation reduction act had nothing to do with inflation, everything to do with climate change. they spent all the money, pushing it at the dorton in the end for tens of millions of dollars at the time, half a trillion dollars waste, fraud, abuse, the gao says. trump is just supposed to, don't look. rubberstamp it. congress does not have the power to bankrupt america. congress does not have the power to the front fraud. that massive amounts of waste, fraud, abuse at the half a trillion dollars a year. i doubt that as a legitimate constitutional power congress has as well. congress responsibilities need to be exposed. what congress does needs to be exposed as well. now these judges, very, very interesting who were trying to

prevent donald trump from preventing waste, fraud, abuse. i just am back and count to be for the program how many of these cases have been brought, 94. ninety-four cases, i just took a random look they are not all democrat judges. but, the vast majority are. the vast majority are. some of them are republican appointed judges with the caveats. some of them were reported by republicans. like the case of seattle by reagan as part of a deal where you picked a liberal democrat judge in order to get to more conservative judges through. and those deals at the federal district court level have been made for more than a hundred years probably. so they say to reag said to reae and so forth you got to take a look. so i took a look at these judges who are right in the middle of this. it is no accident the petitioners for bringing these cases are bringing them mostly in washington d.c. seattle, washington, boston,

massachusetts. new york, manhattan, places heavy, heavy concentration democrats. we are most likely to get a judge by obama, or biting. some of these judges the key judges right now were appointed by biden and obama. have judge abelson who is blocking the anti- dei efforts of the administration. just a point by biden in the last two years or so. we have judge alec him appointed by biden. he is blocking the freezing of federal funding or trump said i want to take a look at this. they said no, you can't prejudge a leak perhaps the most radical of the bunch. he has ordered trump to actually spend money on foreign aid in ad trump says no, i do not want to spend that money. i went to look at it. john roberts and the court stepped in and said not so fast judge olley. we are going to take a look at this.

who's appointed by biden. the blocks access to treasury department payment systems. we have judge boardman appointed by blight biden blocked access to personal records. doesn't the price of a right turn is working for the government or if they're actually working for the government? judge amy berman jackson is a huge radical in washington appointed by obama. she's forced the reinstatement of the so-called watchdog fired by trumper to see how they are micromanaging? the executive branch is tied up managed a massive bureaucracy that ithat's not even constitutt by the way none of these judges are too. they're created by the judiciary act. they are created by congress. so, the one person. by the congress, donald trump and the presidency we are told has no say. has no power nations go bankrupt the debt is going to the ceiling. the currencies going down, he just needs a watch greatly to the honor elected judges, the elected bureaucrats leave it to congress choosing the power of the purse could destroy the

country of judge jon mcconnell out of biden boston he blocked the grants and loans. grandma judge appointed by obama blocked a freeze of the government of grants and loans. we have judge person appointed by biden he's blocked the transgender order from the administration. we have judge ingle mayor appointed by obama blocked access to payroll systems to payment systems. so they can figure if there's fraud going on we have judge kelly appointed by biden she blocked cap to personal grants. they are running the executive branch fo. these judges are micromanaging. now or did they get it? they have no such power. none whatsoever, zero. they didn't have the power to trump the legitimate action of the president of the united states. they do have the power to run

the human resources department federal government to decide what's on the website. tgood todecide what the presiden fire or offer people early retirement. they do not have the power to do any of these things. and yet they are doing them. so, first be established, congress is on have the power to bankrupt america. as i have the power to judge fraud activities. they do not know what they are funding under these omnibus bills for the present does the power to see what is being spent. he does have the power to determine whether fraud is taking place and waste and abuse of parties not required to rubberstamp. and now we have established a judge on the power to micromanage the executive branch, the bureaucracy. all of the decisions elected president elected in the entirety of the united states gets to make. because, the bureaucracy is not in the constitution for the bureaucrats are not elected with these judges are not in the constitution they are created by

congress. they do not have the power to micromanage the executive branch either. so, what we have here? are you ready for this? i am sorry to upset you. the post constitutional america. what is being done now is an effort to wrap the constitution around activities, institutions that are taking place that are not in the constitution. the constitution was never amended to do any of these things. so we are taking the constitution, the supreme court will no doubt and try to figure how to wrap it around all these things are taking place in two sorts and assign who has what authority and who does not. that is what is taking place. this is been going on since the early american marxist the progress of the late 1800s.

woodrow wilson to franklin roosevelt, to lyndon johnson and on and on and on. the reason they are so furious on efforts the reason why they are checking donald trump and calling him unconstitutional which is preposterous, is because this scam has been going on a long time. you are paying for your children and grandchildren and generations yet born paid for in a humongous way. they're not going to be able to dig out. so, why is this quot being done questioning anyone know? why are the democrats doing this several republicans invited the media support this why? power. power.

and power. with the power in washington, not the power and the ruling ing class for the democrat power with the power in the party? the parties more important than the country. it's about power. exactly with the constitution was to prevent. we wil

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mark: welcome back america. we are here with, and i'm very excited about it, turning general pam bondi a good friend. especially good friend of my wife had a wonderful lady and a good lawyer. welcome to the program madame attorney general pretty went to get into this epstein thing a little bit. think the american people are curious about who's on the list or list. you've been doggedly trying to get in the information. and now we learn, thanks to you, that you have been stonewalled by people in new york. you want to explain that? >> yes, mark. as you know we released about 120 pages of documents. i started asking for these documents right when i came into office. before casper tell chosen there. so, i ended up getting about 120 pages.

we carefully redacted them of course to be sure the 254 young girls, women who were victims of sex crimes in sex traffic and, their personal information is redacted and out of there to protect them. i'm going through it and said there has to be more, there has to be more. i am assured that is it. cash asked the same questions assure there is no more. i found it this week resources told me new york sd and y are sitting on thousands of pages of documents regarding epstein. thousands, thousands. and of course using the very strong letter we will get everything. we will have it in our possession. we will redacted of course to protect grand jury information and confidential witnesses but the american people have a right to know. donald trump is the most transparent president in our nation's history. so, not only will america get the full epstein file silk at

jfk, they'll get martin luther king. mark: that is fantastic ice in the southern district of new york is sort has been holding onto this information for a reason. that is they do not like the names on the list. and of course we know new york is a hotbed of the democrat party that includes legal circles. do you think that's part of the issue they are trying to protect a lot of names and individuals? >> you know mark, i have not reviewed the information yet. as a lawyer, as a prosecutor i want to review everything before i make a firm conclusion. but i find it very interesting that they held that from us i will find out who withheld that they will not be working for us anymore. mark: once all that is gathered you're going to put out in the public with the obvious and necessary reductions including the people who were the victims and the phone numbers and so forth. but, for the perpetrators ice

and we will see their names, yes? >> will certainly. nothing can be withheld on the as you note grand jury information, anything confidential will be will be wid under the law. we are going to do everything in our power to protect the victim so they're not further victimized. mark: let me ask a question that is kind of in this vein and it may be too early to know because literally you just got to the department of justice. this diet and jack guy jack smim of lawyers and so forth and so on, knew we know it yet i happen to know that is a big apartment with the part with a lot of people take some to figure things out. do we happen to know yet whether they replied with all of the requirements of the presidential records act and espionage act? did they store all of their materials for you folks to look at when you choose to look at it? do we know that or did they remove and destroy any of it? quick sense we are looking at now. we are going through all of that

and now they just got kash patel innes fbi director he is of course a tremendous help. i have been in office barely two weeks and it feels like two years. we are going nonstop. we will get to the bottom of the and you know the first thing i did was fire at the jack smith seeteam. that is ultimate weaponization of our country and our government. mark: don't you get a little frustrated or worse, i would reading the stories about how you have weaponize the department of justice by pulling back on this case against adams which you have every right to do. you look at the case and said this is mickey mouse in. i read it and it was mickey mouse. and then hear what you're talking about as well. all the sudden your weaponize and the department of justice as if you, the new attorney general has to tolerate and accept their things gone before? >> that we are trying to do's and weaponizatisand weaponizatie ending it. we ended it with the jack smith investigation.

no one is going to be targeted because of their political views or because they are a political opponent. the noise, that chatter i truly do not listen to it i am here to fight for donald trump agenda. i am fighting for america. that's what we are all doing as a team we are going to keep going forward i cannot care what i do not care. i'm not going to worry about what these people say or do. i know i am doing the thing to end it weaponization for our country. that's what i'm going to continue to do every single day, mark. mark: we will be right

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now back to "life, liberty & levin." ♪ ♪ ♪ welcome back america there were here with attorney general pam bondi. so, are you getting at many referrals whether it is tom homan on immigration, or the epa, zelda and about that unbelievable grant events like that from doge and must in these other departments of the starting to pour in somewhat? >> pour in is an understatement. we are going nonstop. first with tom homan and chris kristinoem we are working hand hand. i was with both of them we will see a lot of really great things coming out. we work as a team. we work so well together we were friends so many of us before we came into work for the

president. it makes our job so much easier. because as a principal level we are are talking to each other constantly. i talked to elon constantly because ellana needs us with everything he is doing. he needed us a couple of weeks ago when his federal government employees, half of them got locked in u.s. half got locked out of usa when the career deep state turned off their access cards. that is one of that many per you cannot make this up and that's one of the many things we are doing with doge. last weekend secretary is eldon and secretary bessette of the treasury the three of us were face timing pretty much all weekend about the $20 million issue you know about epa. we have been talking nonstop about that. we are going after that, that's a team of lawyers on that. we are all working hand in hand to secretary rubio, as you note

this past week we had a great ruling for him from justice roberts. they stated the case that marco had to disperse hundreds of millions of dollars of u.s. aid funds. wwe've had some other fun rulins for doge one involving secretary besson support you will love this would if you've not read about this when yes. they tried to tell the secretary of treasury that he had no power of how funds are disbursed from the treasury departments. only career employees could do that, not the secretary of treasury because they called him quote political pride that is what we are doing with every day. >> you got a lot of these judg judges. it's in the districts they are in most are in dark blue cities of boston, washington, new york, seattle, washington. i counted it to be wrong but accounts on the public record 94 of these lawsuits trying to cripple doge and the president

and the activities that are taking place. i guess these are taking up a lot of time, no? x they are but there are great lawyers who are amazing. we are bringing in more lawyers. next we you will see a whole stream of new lawyers coming in to help them. we are honest and we are in the rights ultimately these cases are going to get to the supreme court and we will prevail. it's not even a close call on this. trillions of dollars of your tax dollars, our tax dollars are attempted to be distributed by the deep stoughton it is going to stop. it is stopped right now. we are not going to let happen. mark: you know attorney general bondi and getting a sense listen to and some of the other top officials in the trump administration, you folks really get along. you really like each other. you like mandate the president is giving you a whole lot of room to operate and so forth and so on.

i just get the sense that this administration early on is functioning much better and coordinating much better than your typical administration you've worked in administrations before, obviously not for present is that your sense of this? >> absolutely. the present and i talk about this a lot. the president talks about this publicly. even from his first administration. you are wiser i was in his last administration for a short time when they tried to impeach him the first time. so i got to see how great it worked then but now it works even better. you're just a wiser, you know what is happening we all work so well together he has assembled a team of people who are second to none. our vice presidents off the charts he is truly remarkable. he is someone who i did not know before this i really, really think the world of him and the entire cabinet. and then mark, if you take it to

a national security level i say it is the things that keep us up at night that you will never know about, hopefully you will never know about them and that is why america is safe. you hear the very public things, the things on the news. but getting to watch firsthand these truly professionals led by mike wallace, marco rubio, pete hegseth, tulsi gabbard, all of these people together steve witkoff is amazing. the things that are being done for world peace at the direction of donald trump, it is remarkable. i am so blessed to be a part of it, teeny part of what they are doing. mark: he knowing you and knowing how committed you are in your integrity, i can tell you is a former chief of staff to great attorney general i am thrilled you are there. you do a fantastic job. so god bless you my friend. >> thank you my friend and god bless you and your amazing wife.

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are both countries coordinating and talking about this? >> we are, marco. as always it's good to be with you by the prime minister of israel has been talking about iran and encouraging the west to take heed. cannot achieve nuclear capability for a long time. you will remember congress way back when, barack obama was still president. president trump then followed and he rescinded an agreement which would have achieved nuclear weapons down the line. right now we are at a pivotal moment. iran is racing forward with a nuclear program. this week, next week actually on the third of march the international atomic and agency is meeting. they are supposed to produce a report under iranian progress. but they will not be able to because iran does not really

cooperate. and that should not surprise us. these people are liars. they are charming liars but they lie. we cannot allow ourselves to be charmed by their attempt to hoodwink a western civilization allowing them to achieve nuclear power but they mean what they take their one thing the tell the truth about action that's our intention to support israel but how do we know they tell the truth? they have fired hundreds of ballistic missiles with the intention to murder our innocence, to attackers cities and they say we are only the beginning. they call us little stay tuned. united states is the biggest stay tuned and they're coming for western civilization as a whole. mark: let me make my own prediction. you cannot talk your way out of this with the iranian regime. this will be a matter of

diplomacy. it's a matter of military action. that is what it's going to take. they are playing a rope a dope. they're dragging on anybody whether it's that un weather's been the united states, whether it's anybody else. they need this regime to hold onto any kind of power because you have weakened them pretty and weakened their economy, you've weakened their military. i am afraid it pushes going to come to shove and it's going to come fairly quickly. >> your absolute rights you cannot talk iran out of this. you we should add they're not going to build talk the trump administration out of it. i think there's a real clarity on the around the situation. there were wonderful talks between the prime minister and trump and his team vice president secretary of defense and state are on the same page of this. and we are going to work

together to ensure western civilization remain safe and. >> israel's getting maximum support from the knights ace is in it? that is a huge difference in prayer in ministration it seems to me. >> it's a pleasure to work with the administration on every front's, on every issue but they understand our predicaments. this administration understands or some better ally of the united states and israel. the amount of intelligence and data that we share with the united states, the experience we have in technology, our advancements in technology are all shared with the united states. the relationship is one of the brothers really, older brother and younger brother. it is a marvelous relationship pretty feet if you begin to ask me a question on the hostages the diplomacy that steve witkoff is implementing is a marvelous state-of-the-art diplomacy.

someone who comes with both common sense, experience and a big heart. those are rare qualities in a diplomat. he brings them to the table and achieves great things but we will achieve more them in the it's a very difficult situation with prime minister mayorkas netanyahu. we went to his many hostages out alive as we can. we are committed, very committed because her public is very committed because hamas will not be allowed to stand in gaza. mark: is tough when you're dealing with the blood thirsty and that is what you're dealing

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mark: welcome back america. we are at the ambassador from israel to the united states. yechiel leiter, the situation and hamas, this is the hardest part of this negotiation i suppose getting the final people out of there. note that as a priority of your government and it always has been. with benjamin netanyahu. >> unfortunately, most of them are not alive. we want to do everything we can to get those alive out. we are working on that.

that brings me too a short story that he only learned recently from my son, david, who was a soldier of my oldest son. who was the commander of forces that entered gaza. to liberate the hostages. he told me that on the night they entered gaza, he went up to his older brother, the commander and said you know, i am afraid because we were firing our artillery to put here for the ground incursion. my oldest son put his hand on david's shoulder, the younger brother and said i am afraid to but let's get in there get the hostages back. so, with over 400 soldiers that have given their lives to get our hostages out. to defeat hamas. tremendous courage, we have an army that is just incredible rate people came back from all over the world to volunteer, they were not even called up to

participate in israel's defense of its existence. the defense of its people after the horrific attack on october 7. and the continued insistence on the part of hamas there was only a beginning. they plan to repeat it. i cannot help but point out that we have almost a resurrection on many college campuses. at the insanity that went on here in the united states. while the day after hamas implemented that massacre of the slaughter of 1200 innocence. we had college students out there celebrating this massacre. supporting hamas. and now we see a recurrence of this. as we talk right now there is a demonstration in support of palestinian terrorism. we had three instances in the past week where universities here in washington, thankfully canceled the appearance of hamas supporters speaking on campus.

these are steps the president has taken. he has come straight out of the white house. leo terrell is made it very clear that supporters of terrorism will go to jail. well, we are here to say those of us in the embassy representing israel this is a tremendous achievement on part of the administration. we have to see to it those are prosecuted and sent to jail but we cannot hawe can have a centee campuses. mark: the funding forces need to be cut off but we know who they are, i will say they are hamas, qatar pouring in numbers sums of money into colleges and universities. in teaching seminars and so forth in her k-12 schools. so, this has to be sto stopped n president trump's focus on this. as well as student visas. people who are in this country who hate our country.

who obviously are jew haters and american haters for they need to go. all the things from the process of been done. i want to say this, mr. ambassador and i went the american people to know you lost her eldest son. lucy father of six children. i was a great hero, he was a commander you have felt this personally and directly as so many people in israel have. at the tiny country of the minimal number of people quite frankly part of who would know somebody was lost somebody. i just want to thank you for what you are doing for israel, for the united states. and god bless you my friend. >> thank you mark, it's always good to be wit

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appreciate that. when you choose to see it, if you can't watch live. i want to add perspective to the noise and back out there. washington is upset with what's happening to washington. ruling class is upset with what's happening to the ruling class, bureaucrats and unions, the democrats, lawyers, they don't represent america. tens of millions of us thrilled everyday with what trump is doing, what elon musk and his team are doing so i say, keep it up, keep the foot on the last gas pedal, the american people support this so i will see you tomorrow night 8:00 p.m. eastern time right here on and live in. ♪