country for people moving to arkansas. one of the big reasons why people want the government out of their business, they want to be able to make decisions, and universal school choice is one of them and that is opened every family in the state of arkansas. >> martha: linda mcmahon going to be nominated later tonight as the department of education secretary. that is the story for this monday march 3rd and we will see you back here tomorrow. the epa administrator lee zeldin and tom homan the border czar would join me tomorrow night and then 9:00 p.m. eastern joined me and brett for our live coverage of the presidents joint address to congress. you will see that from d.c. will cain starts right about now.

>> will: live from the heartland this is the will cain show. when i launched the show just over two months ago i promised do nothing if not authenticity. so let's be real. for one moment as we start with one of the least consequential and they most consequential issues today facing the will cain show. first, are we in the heartland. how many people have said to me you were broadcasting from texas that is not exactly the heartland. every day i begin to show sync live from the heartland. are we being real a? that is not a red chinese star even though we admit it looks a little bit like a big circus tent to. maybe that is what the heartland is, a big tent that encompasses texas. but today most consequential story of the day here together on the will cain show it was the oval office meeting heard around the world.

it was the most consequential foreign policy and geopolitical meeting and perhaps the last half-century of the united states of america. the question is did it represent american leadership but it gets a foot down saying we will no longer just right along with the status quo? we will stand for american interest first and not be somebody walked into potentially world war iii. or in the alternative was that america turning away from a postwar alliance after world war ii and to beginning its snuggle session with dictators? that is the story as told by democrat connecticut senator chris murphy. >> absolutely shameful what is happening right now. the white house has become an arm of the kremlin every single day you hear from the national security advisor, from the president of the united states, from its entire security team, kremlin talking points.

for what? for what? it appears as if america is trying to align itself with dictators. >> will: that is chris murphy suggesting with all of the cliche talking points suggesting that the opponent is the putin puppet that donald trump has now abandoned the post-world war ii alliance and snuggled up with dictators. something about that argument simply does not do it for me. managed to combine historical analogies historical analogies with ad hominem attacks or for with whom you disagree. it was positively churchill compared to how that was reduced today on "the view". >> here is the thing that everybody can do. if you support ukraine say it out loud. >> i support ukraine her. i support ukraine. [applause] >> will: the unvaccinated. where have i heard this type of

thing before. we are all required to chant along the same slogans critically unthinking. weirdly that is exactly what we began to hear from european leaders of the weekend. that you sounded like "the view". every european leader but at the same statement. basically uses the exact same words and wishing to zelenskyy and ukraine all of the best. hoping they stand strong and brave. as though it were issued from me centr authority. let's think critically here today. was that the united states turning towards dictatorship interdict its back on democracy and the west? or was this the united states beginning to prioritize america first. today president trump continued the conversation. he slammed ukrainian president zelenskyy for saying the end of the war is quote, very, very far away. he wrote on troop a social this guy doesn't want there to be peace. as long as he has america's backing and beer up, the meeting

they had with zelenskyy, they stated flatly they can't do the job without the united states. what are they thinking? in the last hour president trump double down. watch. >> i don't want to see this go on for years and years. president zelenskyy supposedly made a statement today so maybe it was an incorrect statement that he thinks the war is going to go on for a long time and you better not be right about that. >> will: all of this as we are learning that the trump administration is weighing suspending or canceling military aid to you grayed out together. a lot to get into. let's do so with our guest and you have not republic man and -- indiana republican and congressman. i would love to start with you. you are tv rain is in russia.

you when i have spoken together in the past about how you perceive putin's actions. tell me how you sitting over there today perceive the actions of donald trump. >> first of all thank you for having me looking at the actions it makes me really sorry because i think that's it seems to me mr. trump doesn't actually understand that putin is not his friend and that putin could not be a friend to the civilized world. it is so important to call the things by their names. and the name of mr. putin is dictator. he started a terrible war in ukraine and i think it is very important for the united states do anything it could to help ukraine not become the part of this aggressive regime of vladimir putin. and now when i am looking at these talks by mr. trump and mr. zelenskyy in the white house it doesn't make sense. it doesn't make it look like the

piece is coming in this terrible war. >> will: i want to bring in congressman sparks but i just have to push back for one moment. i think that the conversation today moves beyond to whether or not donald trump thinks of vladimir putin is either a friend or a dictator. it seems to me what he is pushing for his peace and peace is not accomplished by getting hung up on who has honestly the moral high ground to. we are well past the moral high ground we are in the strategic reality of the world. both sides have to be acknowledged. >> this is not just a war peace does not exist in a vacuum. there can be no peace between ukraine and russia now if ukraine doesn't have a security guarantee. that is what zelenskyy is telling everyone now. we know mr. putin is a liar and that he alexis so many times

that there is no guarantee then vladimir putin will attack ukraine once again to. and he definitely would do it like he did in 2014 like he did it in 2022, or like he did it with georgia in 2008. >> will: i want to bring in congresswoman sparks who was at the capitol. again as i mention she is originally originally from ukraine. how have you internalized what happened friday between zelenskyy, fans, and trump? >> as you know that peace can only be achieved through strength and words cost and nothing including for europeans. as you know two and a half years ago president biden, europeans and zelenskyy to get ready to win the war they did not think. they did a lot of presentations. a lot of people to die without this corruption without really getting the military ready. this is all presentations. so president trump is the only person who actually offered a

solution to push back on russia. ring united states different interest that never existed before. and i thought first my gosh is zelenskyy really delusional putin suggesting he is doing to find the american people. but i think it is political reasons. because he's losing at the post trying to do what a hero without looking at the implications of united states not helping them. >> will: congresswoman sparks would you please describe for me what you see as a victory and an ideal alternative coming out of whatever donald trump was trying to accomplish for ukraine at? what does that look like what would you like to see accomplished? >> i think you know president trump a very difficult situation. actually if two and a half years ago in the fall of 2012 -- 22 united states would push back on russia much stronger it could be different situation. because putin was on the fact

ukrainian military doing what they have been doing in spite of do you know the very terrible government they had. now a difficult situation. russia is not losing the war. president trump to try national interest of united states economic interest, to actually have some you know good companies doing business and not just oligarchs final with money same with russian oligarchs but actually have some interest. united states to show. so i think that is a very tough position with zelenskyy to be at the table with the united states. that the world would actually dream about being in that situation. >> will: i want to leave it with you here i want to ask you the same question. what is a desirable outcome in your mind at the end of this war? >> well i think the end of this war. just when the aggressor will think terrible things that this aggressor has started on

february 24th 2022. now that it looks now that putin will get away with what he has done to ukraine you know that tens of thousands of men and women and kids were killed in ukraine and now we are talking about getting back to the business with putin and we talk about the interest of russia and ukraine et cetera, et cetera. this is just not right. i think the real victory for the civilized world russia will pay for what it has done to ukraine there. we will see what there is no any other option for russia to begin another war against ukraine. >> will: tv editor chief... , congresswoman sparks originally from ukraine, thank you both so much for being with me.

it seems to me there are only two viable outcomes with this war. one is long protracted afghanistan 2.0 four russia. it throws ukrainian bodies at the problem until you break russia or you launch world war iii. otherwise you have to pursue peace and peace will not be accomplished through a lot of the things we just heard her. i believe humbly that i believe like the aggressor must pay for the war. history suggests losers pay for the war. that forces us to look at the reality on the ground and pursue peace from that reality, not moral platitudes. a lot more disgust because i want to get into the history of this war between ukraine and russia and what led us to this point in history after the break. 're a fiduciary, obligated to act in our client'' best interest. (fisher investments) so we don't sell any commission-based products. (other money manager) then how do you make money? (fisher investments) we have a simple management fee,

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♪ ♪ >> will: why is it that everything in our world has to be turned into a catch phrase? a slogan? why does all critical thinking have to be totally dropped and we all have to sing together in unison i stand with ukraine or i believe in science or pandemic of the unvaccinated. why is it the same people that so many of those slogans five years ago today tell me putin the vague apologist if you do engage your brain to understand exactly what is happening on the potential for world war iii. i think history is a good place to begin to understand the world happening around us. let's dive and into a little bit of history. is vladimir putin adolf hitler looking to roll through europe or has the west encroached on the security of what was the soviet union now russia? let's take a look at the history. in 1991 ukraine maintained the largest nuclear arsenal outside

of russia in the united states. in 1991 they agree to transfer all of the nuclear warheads and intercontinental ballistic missiles over to russia in exchange for security assurances from russia and the united states to protect ukraine an important moment as we sit here today. in 2001 by the way the last of the strategic nuclear vehicles were delivered or eliminated in ukraine to. in the alternative when the soviet union crashed in 1990 eastern union was reunified with west germany. i promise was made to mikko gorbachev than exchange -- in exchange for german drug -- german reunification we would maintain a presence in germany as part of nature but there would be no extension of nato's jurisdiction for forces of nature 1 inch to the east. did that happen? let's fast forward and take a look at what has happened with nato in the last several years. into his thin nato signed in 1949.

the operative part of nature began after the collapse of the soviet union. in 1999 they don't it began its expansion under bill clinton to the east. and welcomed in the czech republic a cut concrete, in poland. importantly, in 2004 bulgaria, estonia, latvia, romania, slovakia, slovenia joined in a toe. money sharing director borders with russia. in 2009 albania and corporation are joint in 2017 month and a goal in 2023 again assuring a border with russia finland joint in a toe. and last year finland welcomed in sweden. it has been argued that no matter the president of russia, vladimir putin or anyone else, they would see this expansion of nato to the east as a threat of their security and russia so who is. >> instigating this war, who contains or maintains the moral high ground? let's bring in federalist sean davis and editor of the

council's ukraine alert service peter dickinson. i believe you are most likely to have some disagreement with perhaps the way i laid that history else and where we sit here today. did you hear anything to just heard from me in that history that you disagree with between ukraine and russia. >> good to join you. while i think that we need to be very specific when we talk about nato enlargement. foods and of course does not like they do enlargement there is no question about that periods objections are entirely gender when. but we need to discuss whether they are legitimate. in the sense of whether russia is generally widely threatened by nato. i would point specifically to the enlargement most recent in finland to. finland and russia have a border of around 1300 kilometers to. for and then in 2023 and that effectively doubled russia

supporter with nato. and russia's response, putin's personal response was to say i don't mind i have no problem with this. and since finland joint prenatal lines russia has actually withdrawn the vast majority of its troops from that border. i think it is quite clear from russians actions that putin understands perfectly while nato is not a threat to russia itself. what makes it... is an obstacle to russia pulling and its neighbors. so the question really for all western countries and the united states is that legitimate? should we concede the sphere of influence to russia or not to? >> will: i appreciate how you separated that out to. you acknowledged that russians would see a need to expansion as a threat but you argued that it should not see that expansion as a threat to. we can talk about that not just in ukraine in finland but in georgia as well. crusher is clearly insecure about its borders based on history. it clearly is. you can tell them they shouldn't

be, peter, what they clearly are concerned about what happens just to their west based upon i don't know napoleon, hitler, any other information they have survived from the west. their western borders are. sean, with the point of this history is today is to sit here and say we need to understand the vladimir putin ambitions and his insecurities so that we can understand what peace looks like on his terms. and then we can back in to whether or not zelenskyy and the west can offer that piece to vladimir putin. >> that is correct. you have to understand your adversary or your opponents actual interests and i think peter got so close to understanding the rub here. it is not a to expansion by itself it is where nato is expanding. the crown jewel for russia, for its economy and military, is in the black sea. there are six nations the port of the black sea. you have turkey which is nato, you have russia, and then you have bulgaria, romania, georgia,

in ukraine you. if you look back in history when georgia started playing footsie with nato in 2006 putin responded by going in and exiting part of -- and -- annexing part of georgia. and then bulgaria at this point you have 40% being added to the number of people in need to on the back -- black sea. the rub is with ukraine they have a border with crimea which houses the black sea fleet and then you also have the major russian port... on the far north, mostly eastern portion of the black sea. these are key geographic assets because they provide year-round access for russia militarily and economically to all the various oceans. they don't have to worry about ice in the winter like they would in the baltic. so it is expansion around the black sea that i believe is the true threat that russia perceives from nato. >> will: in the short time we

have together, peter, i think you acknowledged russia probably doesn't feel that threat at least it does so in ukraine more so than it would in finland to. how far would russia, and i don't mean putin, i mean russia go to the mat to defend those insecure borders? therefore we have to ask when it comes to defending zelenskyy or we prepared to go to the math to the extent of world war iii to expand western influence to the east. >> i don't think that russia feels threatened by ukraine to. the idea that ukraine would pose a threat to russia even nato ukraine would pose a threat to russia is absurd to. nato has been in the baltic states for 20 years and not post any threat whatsoever. almost zero incidents in two decades. russia is today an empire. it is not a nation state as we understand and certainly in europe and in most parts of the world of.

it is essentially a patchwork empire very much on the 19th century model. putin is somebody who was political worldview was informed by the kgb officers in eastern europe and east germany in the 1980s that he personally witnessed the collapse of soviet power in eastern europe. when the berlin wall fell in 1989... as is well known. and soviet power in eastern europe collapsed almost overnight. and then came back the soviet unit itself collapsed. now he sees ukraine's move towards great integration of europe towards democracy, as a potential catalyst for the next date in that process. he really wants to avoid that by exerting russia pressure and russian influence on ukraine. it is not about a need to threat to russia itself i don't believe there is any evidence that russia genuinely feels that. on the contrary look at the map look at broszus borders with nato.

russia's borders with nato today are largely undefended. that is a fact. undefended. >> will: i have to go i will give you the last quick word, sean. i think is putin looking to roll through eastern europe and reestablish the previous boundaries of the soviet union? or his he concerned in the opposite the west is expected into the sphere of influence and security of russia? >> i don't think there is any evidence of putin rolling into eastern europe taking over i think he is worried about nature and the west encroaching on russia's interest on his interest particularly on those in the black sea. >> will: i appreciate this discussion it is a deep one a quick one we are driving at the history which is a start. i appreciate you both having this conversation with me here today. historic move mexico hands over several high level cartel members to the united states. who are these guys?

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♪ ♪ >> will: mexico sending more than two dozen drug lords to the united states. among them infamous mexican drug lord rafah can tarot. you may remember him as a character in the tv show narcosis. also been sent to korea for renters from the horas cartel. the powerful mexican drug lord known as the lord of these guys also a character in our close. does the extradition of the aging kingpins like this change anything? our next guest has closely followed these cartels. steve duckett is a former doj special agent... and special agent the sacrifices enrique camarena.

michael brown is a former dea senior special agent and mika is an investigation in the list to found a cart -- founded cartel insider.com to provide exclusive insights into organized crime and they all join me now. i'm going to start with you. this has to be a moment to validation. enrique camarena killed by rafael quintero and now he is exited to the united states of america. >> it is huge by all narcotic officers a law enforcement and especially the d.a. for 40 years they have been waiting for this to happen and for it to happen in our lifetime is huge. the camarena family is a static. i'm sorry his mom could not be here to witness this. she passed a year before that he

was arrested for the second time in 2022 but the family is ecstatic. >> will: mecca i will go to you you cover the cartels. one thing i noticed i am fascinated by this topic so i, like you, read a lot about it. you investigated and are you have been to mexico and talk to these guys. these are very drug lords that were just extradited to the united states of america. but they are also far kind of it looks like off the chessboard. they were off the chessboard in mexico they were in jail in mexico. doesn't change the landscape of the current drug cartel map in mexico to see these guys extradited to the u.s. of? that is for you. my sink your name right? >> yes, it is very i know like steve said most people never saw this coming to.

do have 29 of these come in one day? these are some of the worst of the worst you have everybody from the date is that people were terrified of that massacred hundreds of people, literally people had to communicate before they could go in and drive. so very significant event. surprised, shocked, i did not see anything like this coming i don't think anybody data. >> will: to answer the question does that change anything on the ground to? are these guys kind of famous but has been's? >> no what definitely changes on the ground it changes the cartel now. the cartels the bosses they believe they are invincible and even if they do get arrested they are in mexico prison they still have control. they still have lawyers and get to enjoy everything that we do outside. so this has changed everything. people are nervous now. >> will: that is part of the

story. mike oke, has all of this changed the state of play in mexico? are council members and bosses nervous today? i would think that x traditions like this that have been held up for a long time mexico is unwilling to do this and now they are willing to do it of? scare mexican cartel drug bosses >> i think that is the point of what we are seeing now. these recent 29 expeditions could have been done years ago under mexico's former president but he refused to honor the extradition or a request. i think what this highlights is that the mexican government now is very concerned about the current administration's probable execution of additional pushback to the cartels if they don't start to do more in terms of degrading the fentanyl flow into the united states. certainly this was important to bringing justice, especially to rafael quintero who killed “kiki” camarena but i think it remains to be seen if the

mexican government will go after current cartel leadership and the infrastructure that supports the multi-production of narcotics. >> will: steve, what does it say? they seemingly went to the will of president trump? whether it is to avoid tariffs or because they are afraid of american military strikes in mexico under the classification of these cartels as foreign terrorists. they are trying to avoid something and they are giving something up in this case 29 because the cartels. what does it say about the way they have been before that they are all of a sudden folding to trump? >> to me it is unbelievable. i have to give claudia sheinbaum credits, have to give the president credit, you put a lot of pressure on them that is something we should have done long ago and i think the president learned that the first time around. you know mexico is a government of smoke and mirrors. for years we have been certifying them, pouring money into their so-called fight over drug trafficking.

they take our money and they take the cartels money. they really never took us to seriously. now they are taking us seriously. it is so good to see. he has done so many thanks in his first few days in office and i know these cartel guys are in their pants and they are afraid of extradition. just to throw everybody on a plane and send them over here? and i am hearing that we may be able to kill us some of these guys. the death penalty may be in order. i haven't confirmed that but usually they will extradited people to us because they don't have a death penalty and they don't have a life sentence. so we have to structure are prosecutions to respect to that of the mexico as a sovereign nation it. but i think even claudia sheinbaum is waving that off. >> will: it is something. steve you said it, nick you said

it, reports to suggested that cartel leaders and members in mexico today are scared and nervous about what is coming next for them based upon everything we are seeing from the trump administration. steve and michael thank you so much for joining me here today mika as well. d.o.g.e senton more emails and getting more responses. elon musk planning to lease findings from the defense department today. white house deputy chief of staff stephen miller and all the cuts we have seen so far next.

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at the president is hoping to create, as well as a long list of jobs that are wide open right now. >> will: awesome conversation earlier today with mike rowe on the job gap today in the united states of america. there are some 7 million jobs that remain unfilled today. not just a skills gap but a willingness gap as well of american men, primarily men, seemingly disinterested or unwilling to fill the jobs open today. many blue-collar jobs. something to think about if talking about reassuring and bringing all these businesses back to america through tariffs on showing various companies. we need to figure out a workforce. joining me now is white house deputy chief of staff stephen miller. i was good to see you. >> great to be here. >> will: what do you think about that, by the way? raid to bring jobs back to america to bring companies and manufacturing back to america but there is something going on

with the american workforce and young women choosing to accept the jobs that are looking to be offered to them. -- young men choosing to accept the jobs that are looking to be offered to them. >> mass migration drives americans out of the workforce in a permanent way often times through isolation it. if you went to new york city in the 1980s it was overwhelmingly likely that your cabdriver when you showed up would be a new yorker. a new york for the cab driver. i think only about 8% of cabbies in the 80s were so -- foreign-born. you would come in as a tourist from omaha, he would tell you about his favorite sites,'s favorite restaurants, favorite things to see. a good chance today that if you went to new york city the driver would be foreign-born. that is not an attack or insult or disparagement of that

cabdriver. but as immigration changed and we brought in immigration networks to fill in all of those jobs it created a social network that counted americans out of that and many americans no longer saw that as a drop in which they would feel as part of their social network. you see this in profession after profession where somebody drops. again look for example entry-level jobs and many fast food restaurants. in areas that have very high amounts of immigration it is very often the case those workers are indeed foreign-born. if you go to a part of the country where there is very little immigration you will often see high school graduates or sorry high school students, u.s.-born, doing those jobs to earn extra money. unfettered migration changes the nature of the workforce in a very permanent way. they will point to a job and they will say we need immigration for that job because it is all foreign workers doing kid. look at the picture of the empire state building being built in the 1920s. who were the people sitting on

top of those beams high above the city? just american workers. we have change the nature of these industries are. >> will: mike rowe talked about this as well. you mentioned look at the public image we have created through pop culture of the plumber, i with his pants down halfway down his, plumbing is an honorable unnecessary drop that society needs along with the electricians and welders and look how that is sold pr wise to young americans. that being so let me play devil's advocate, i know you will have the answer, when i am listening to you explain your first answer i can hear the rebuttal. these people are doing jobs americans don't want to do or won't do. >> look, first of all, every industry that built this country look at the panama canal, that both the interstate highway system, that both the skyscrapers, those were american workers. american workers were the

plumbers, the electricians. but as your point the aleta said these jobs weren't drops good for americans. they downgraded and degraded these professions and said we need to have cheap labor foreign workers to do the stops which of course drops down the wages for so many of these positions. these are skilled craftsmen jobs. these are jobs that have always been a historic route to the middle class. so we drove down wages, we made this profession was attractive, we drove down conditions and now we are surprised at the results. so ask you reform welfare, change incentive structures, also shut down migration pipelines, and then you promote -- demote the dignity of these jobs and create an economy -- promote these jobs and you create an economy for american workers you make these jobs more economically attractive so you can raise a family if you want to on a single income job. if you do all of these things you would change of the workforce of raids of this country. all part of the trump agenda.

>> will: i think that is illustrated today by a topic that i have talked with you about which is the president making english the official language of the country. which by the way you and i just changed this conversation where our interests went so i ran out of time for the news today but i think that fits. i think the president making english the official language of the country is tied to what we are talking about. >> when they got this because it is so historic we have been talking about this for decades, for generations. president trump has finally did what people have been saying they want year after year that we have one unifying national language that promotes assimilation, integration, national identity. two words we should not be ashamed of. national identity matters, we are an english-speaking nation. president trump made history and americans can celebrate. >> will: that is to be celebrated national identity matters be proud to be their working. you are welcome to come on any day you like and talk about anything you want to jump into

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♪ >> jesse: complete and total chaos at the cheerleading event in downtown dallas just across the street. watch. [screams] [ bleep ]. >> jesse: a fight broke out among parents at this massive

cheerleading competition but then people heard loud noises and thought shots were fired. it caused complete panic and a stampede. 10 people were hurt. i don't think any of his kids are into cheerleading but clay, i know i did reports of dads running over kids to get out. not running toward the "gunfire," stampeding kids to get out. >> not a good look for dallas. i was thinking about this when they sent me the video. given the fact that cowboys never win anything maybe there is just way more competition to be a dallas cowboy cheerleader than to actually be a dallas cowboy football player. >> jesse: probably true. not much i can say to that. >> this reminds me, will, you know that clip where they

have -- they have redone the titanic where the bad guy in titanic, they say women and children first, i'm trans. [laughter] >> sort of reflecting that, men no longer behave at men in many different facets of life. it used to be you would protect the women and children. out of the way. i'm protecting myself. >> there is another angle to this, though. this is poor parents behaving badly. who knew it could get so bad in cheerleading. you've done this, didn't you get into a fight with an umpire at a little league baseball game? haven't you been this guy? >> i was afraid of this. [laughter] >> i was trying to avoid. this i got kicked out of a little league baseball game a couple of years ago. apologized. it was an awful call by an umpire. i talked about it on the air. the ump and i shook hand and came to an agreement. for better or worse i have no filter, will. i can't do anything other than react naturally to everything,

and sometimes that can get me into trouble. >> so you yelled at an ump and he booted you from the game. you didn't fight other parents, i presume, and i hope -- >> correct. i have never been in a fight with a parent. yes, i hope to never be in a fight, as a 45-year-old man i hope i'm never in a fight for the rest of my life with an adult or a child for that matter. i hope my fighting days are over. >> i was ashamed for dallas. you are right about the cowboys cheerleaders. better than the cowboys players at their given profession. >> and i did think aunt when i saw sports parents behaving badly. so you were not going to escape that today here, clay travis. thanks for being with me. we'll check you out and the clay and buck show. >> appreciate it, man, i was afraid i was getting set up here. i was prepared. >> i asked you, is this the heartland? you said, no, that's nebraska. >> we'll see. ♪ >> jesse: hello,