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morning. canadian prime minister justin trudeau taking shots at president trump at a rather personal way. this is over newly implemented 25% tariffs that went into effect. watches closely, justin trudeau had a direct message and he called the president, donald. >> i want to speak directly to one specific american. donald. and the over eight years you and i have worked together, we have done big things. we signed a historic deal that has created record jobs and growth in both of our countries. we have done big things together on the world stage as canada and the u.s. have done together for decades, for generations. and now, we should be working together to ensure even greater
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prosperity for north americans in a very uncertain and challenging world. now, it is not my habit to agree with "the wall street journal," but donald cota they point out that even though you are a very smart guy, this is a very dumb thing to do. we, two friends fighting is exactly what the opponents around the world want to see. >> kayleigh: now, here is what makes this interesting pair to the comments, 72 hours plus aftr another foreign leader tried the same strategy picking a fight with president trump, the commander-in-chief and free leader of the world. we saw zelenskyy of ukraine take on a confrontational attitude and the same hour as one leader stood up to pick a fight go to another back down. zelenskyy posted this, check
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this out, he said, "i would like to reiterate ukraine's commitment to peace and none of us won a war. we are ready to come to the negotiating table as soon as possible to bring lasting peace and a meeting in washington at the white house friday did not go the way it was supposed to be. it is regrettable that it happened this way. it is time to make things right." hello, everyone, this is "outnumbered" and i am kayleigh mcenany como my cohost emily compagno, harris faulkner, bill hemmer and coanchor of america's newsroom. pale, i was watching you live when the statement came in and none of us knew we would have another leader step up. >> bill: i think a lot is moving right now i think we can say that in the past hour a cross on the wires that putin says he will be the mediator between the united states and now the left is jumping on that saying trump sucking up to putin
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again. a people power drive i would say. a number of things the merc just don't like markets are getting hammered and they are down again today and help her do you push it? scott bessent the last 24-hour said they will be a transition. he was referring to the markets being down and tough sledding and peter navarro was on earlier today and talking about fentanyl and cracking down on that in the immigration as well. southern border we can talk about a little bit here how much it is closed up in the past four weeks. i mean, it was like flipping a switch and i believe the mexican president is helping on that as well. so there is a lot happening. there is a lot going on but i think regard to zelenskyy. one of the interesting words used in the statement translated to english was regrettable. the trump folks said you have to apologize and i don't know if he will get to that or not, may be.
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during bret baier's interview 6:00 friday, in the oval office going with trump and vance with no translator and at 6:00 he had a translator sitting to the site appeared to they didn't use him a lot but when bret baier asked him, do you regret, he referred to as translator regarding what that would mean and the translation got back in the interesting choice of words. does zelenskyy for the purpose of this conversation get to the a word, which is apology appeared to if he does, maybe all of the staff's right back on track. by the way, my coanchor dana predicted trump will surprise the world tonight and come out and say he has a handshake deal. if that is true, that is a major headline that we are all talking about tomorrow. just be when i think he got close to the apology by the statement that you read that atd of the post, it is regrettable. >> kayleigh: it is. >> harris: i think he is getting there but i don't know
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if we necessarily will get there publicly but he's getting there. >> kayleigh: as i was watching justin trudeau during the hour, what came to mind a specific line he said. he said at the beginning of his remarks they have chosen to harm american national security and my radars went off. like a dire prediction what will happen to americans when you watch the zelenskyy meeting and i budded these together and listen to this, the moment that set trump o gimmick vance and saul alinsky and he dove and when talking about dangers to the american public very similar to justin trudeau today, listen to this. >> during the war everybody has problems, even you that you have nice social and don't feel now that you will feel it in the future. >> you don't know that. you don't know that. >> don't tell us what we are going to feel. first and foremost the impact from canadian workers and canadian jobs and businesses
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know jill is it, first of all, there will be similar impacts on americans losing their jobs and american families paying more for basic goods they rely on at a time when times are tight everywhere. >> kayleigh: i mean, it is pretty similar threats to americans. just be when i think with regard to justin trudeau because the end of this month starts the replacement process for him. i think for him it has nothing to lose type of scenario. although the canadian people have something to lose i don't think he's acting on behalf of the sort of thing. you're taunting someone, donald, you are showing all americans disrespect for top commander. i don't know where we are going but if that is the basis of their friendship, why does he even think we would want to rethink the tariffs, which is going to hurt them. what is already happening. our dow jones is hurting a little bit today but they will feel the pain. the other thing i would say with
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that scenario with him is these two people are not the same. he is trying to equate himself to the power of a popular new president to the united states. he is on his way out. any never had that popularity the way that donald trump has now. so it is kind of a weird political dance. what does he want? does he want to renegotiate? if his border was not as an mass with fentanyl, what did he say? he's had to put money into canada's security and net them together with local law enforcement on the ground because they could not secure the border. okay, there you go, it worked. >> kayleigh: you mentioned the popularity and the hole justin trudeau 34% approval and trump several holes have come ot and trudeau speculated on the motives for the tariffs. >> what he wants to see is a total collapse of the canadian economy.
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that will make it easier to annex us as the second half is his thought. first of all, that is never going to happen. we will never be the 51st state. but yeah, we can do damage to the canadian economy and he started this morning, but you will rapidly find out as american families will find out that that is going to hurt people on both sides of the border. >> kayleigh: sandra, the problem with the trudeau logic there, tariffs have been arsenal and trump's toolkit long before the 51st date came about. he threatened tariffs against mexico, e.u., and russia. don't think he's trying to use tariffs to take over mexico, e.u. and russia. >> i don't know anybody that watch that lived together saw somebody who is approaching this discussion respectfully. i think we saw this with zelenskyy in the oval office and you don't think this is a guy
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coming in and a strong way to debate negotiate with president trump. with that being said go to he's talked about tariffs and prices going up in economic pain. i had a conversation with larry kudlow last night on his show about which, president trump is addressing the tariffs. we have to listen to businesses right now, the ceo of target said, we will try to protect the consumer as much as we can coach about prices will go up. best buy ceo came out and said, the majority of our goods come from china and mexico our prices will go up. this is a president who promised he would a tackle affordability crisis. so we have to watch that carefully. a print out that sheet from the green room every day i look at it and consumer confidence has taken 13% hit since day. we need to note that. people will be watching the prices and housing prices have not come down but gone up 13%.
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newhall medium sales price is all part of the portability crisis did not start and if the administration but the past four years. but this administration will be judged on when and by how much the prices eventually come down. so keep that in mind when we watch the tariffs battle play out. to the market is not necessarily getting hammered and actually pretty even keel in response to uncertainty. they are still up 3% error american stock market since election day has not changed since inauguration day. but wait-and-see mode and right now, this is 1.5% drop in the dow jones, that there is a lot of uncertainty and global uncertainty what happened with ukraine and zelenskyy and a lot of uncertainty surrounding the tariffs. we want the business friendly certain environment and right now we will watch what is next and tonight is a big part of that. >> kayleigh: adding to that uncertainty ontario
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mayor threatening to cut off electricity which would affect americans. it seems like a dire threat. >> emily: that threat to me just indicates that a lot of them are as vice president j.d. vance said to president zelenskyy litigating this in front of the media. but the reality is to your point when americans feel and if americans feel canadians if and when they start to feel the effects of tariffs, that is when we will look toward trudeau stepping up and acquiescing. you know better than i that crude oil is the biggest export from canada. hours to them is passenger vehicles and also buses, special-purpose trucks. the top five of both in the interplay are industrial vehicles and the like. our crude oil to them is number six. as we go back and forth, 16% of our exports to them are only married 20% by us. i don't know who is buying the board maki and i hope no one is
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any more, but i think it will be interesting to see when average americans feel it in their pocketbook. i will look forward to tonight our president reassuring us that any pain is short lived because there is a bigger plan that will be an error it invested interest. >> sandra: he said that is the case. >> kayleigh: will look forward to trudeau's case. the next 72 hours. plotting to disrupt president trump's address tonight. ♪ ♪ fortunately, aspen dental specializes in dentures and implants made just for you, with affordable options and flexible ways to pay, and now, they■re 0 dollars down plus 0% interest, if paid in full in 18 months.
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more. we are hours away from president trump's prime time speech before joint session of congress. he said it will be big, speech for the history books. well president trump preparing to address the nation and all of congress tonight, democrats are thinking about all of the ways they can disrupt things around him, interrupt him. according to axios, left wing lawmakers talking about a litany of options. they have a list for that but not for the american people with a new message. many of the things of that list go against party leadership's advice to just stay calm and composed. they are even thinking about bringing props, just a few reported options, anti-trump and anti-doge centage or eggs or empty egg cartons to symbolize high prices, and even considering noisemakers and hand clappers. where his party sanity when you need them. at least they will not be plotting to do this again here
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to found that code to look at that speaker the house and nancy pelosi being all classy ripping up the trump speech, bail. >> bill: and ad might be clever but noisemaker, take my advice, leave it at home. it is a battle up. you just showed pelosi ripping at that speech. i went back and looked at that february 4th 2020 and right on the verge of covid. i don't know how many remember the speech that night, you remember pelosi ripping it up and you might remember rush limbaugh with freedom coach about 14 other people in the gallery out there and they built the entire speech around them. i thought it was very, very effective and this is pretty much it, the issues at that time. >> harris: q thought her ripping up the speech was effective? >> bill: know, note the speech the way it was produced with all of these regular americans addressing the issues of the
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day. on cnn last hour, james carville went off and he said, "trump hates this country." is that how the left use it? do they think of him this way? because i think the greater majority of people think that is a silly statement to make. but they think he is sucking up to putin. we understand what he's doing with putin based on the oval office meeting last week. i got to stay neutral. if i'm going to help ukraine, russia, bring peace to ukraine, i have to stay in the middle. norse noisemakers, i would not advise it leave it at home. >> harris: democrats, don't they want peace? that is not how you get to peace. did they not only want peace for people across the world that don't they wanted at home? we are divided enough. >> emily: frankly, i don't think they do, harris. the prior administrations direct
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involvement for islamic republic and hamas and terrorist groups that the tendrils of which this administration are still having to cut arrays. with all that just last week with ag pam bondi intervening in that baby sparrow case. the contractors under the prior administration and the wars that the american public are not widely aware of continued to sneak around the globe. this administration has done a phenomenal job of cauterizing those tendrils and bringing to light the full-blown and bold and look at their enemies and the upset of our american interest. i note that as the president released that in his four main components that include his peace around the globe. we will learn details at that because that demonstration is not his actions but the point that nobel peace is in a library unilaterally satisfying otherwise it wouldn't be a deal. you have to appease putin to a degree or it will be a 20 year
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war like the democrats further. nothing we have seen so far from him indicate at all a commitment to true peace and truly to ending the bloodshed, which this present currently demonstrated only commitment for. just. >> harris: i don't know we expect much more out of a group of people that disruption and in danger and open the border. >> kayleigh: pelosi ripping the speech and all the democratic limp dressing in white. and amy barrett a protest will not win us the next election. she is exactly right. i will look at the stands and antics but i'm also looking for another james carville quote. that vote made is crazy. he's gone o off the rail suggesting trump hates the country but the economy is stupid and that is a smart one. if i am the trump team i'm looking at the harvard harris poll 38% said the economy is adding the right direction and
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that means and low but up ten points from biden. nearly one of two americans financially benefited and way up from joe biden. you are hitting the right direction with the economy. to the media will not focus on that but they will focus on zelenskyy and whatever they do. doge, used tonight, economy, economy, economy front, middle, an end focus you have 13 million people plus watching. >> harris: sandra, i'm thinking about the price of gas at the pump. that was one of the things last time i sat down with the president and he said all women town hall and he said the way he was going to attack inflation was to go after energy cost specifically what we put in our cars. he said there is not going to be flipped the switch under his leadership everybody goes electric. that energy is expensive, too, that energy, have you seen your pills? i wonder if he starts there, that is something people are starting to feel a little bit. >> sandra: president trump has
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pro energy and he will get that oil flowing and ramp up the refineries and try to bring the prices down. that could take time based on what we saw the last administration. this is not an overnight fix but they are moving that direction. we anticipate prices to eventually come down and at least stabilize. as far as the democrats antics tonight, i think something important to know is what we heard from the democrats party. chief of staff obama telling democrats safety in schools, talk about being positive and making things better, stop focusing on the negative. this is a huge message out there considering people want patriotism. they want to be proud of that country this moment is not stayed at the young and but there's a lot of pomp and circumstance and proud american moment and where we want to say the entity come together or to would be a missed opportunity for democrats if truly talking about this within their party had to come together and be a party of unity.
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they can focus on patriotism and bringing the country together. if they were to see those antics, they didn't get the message from the last election. >> bill: $2.65 a gallon when i left cincinnati. i always check that. >> harris: i don't know, what do you compare that to? >> bill: new york is ridiculous. but $2.65 is lower than i had seen. it hopped up $3.25 or two but it's coming down. >> harris: errors has gone up in new jersey did not buy a lot but a little. 9:00 p.m. eastern tonight you know where you need to be, popular corn. unite is trump with joint to congress and it will be a big night and keep it on fox news fox news for live coverage of this speech. not one single person on the left side of the political aisle devoted to deep biological man at a point in sports. not one! protection of women, are they for it? it doesn't look like it.
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(♪) ♪ ♪ >> harris: democrats with a major blow to the fight for fai. not one democrat supported republicans in advancing the protection of women and girls in sports. the pan for transgender athletes to compete in women's sports. biological males printer safety trainer. biological male volleyball player blair whose powerful biological male spike prompted seven other teams to forfeit their matches. president trump tried to protect young women and little girls
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when he signed his executive order. that is what you are watching now on the screen. but now, democrats blocked the bill entirely after they claim to be champions of women's rights. speak of this country is failing women in new hampshire and acroe country when it comes to protecting our fundamental freedoms. >> sent me here to the senate to fight for them and their rights. and they are states, they were sent to fight for the rights of women. >> we are doing everything to protect women's rights. >> we have to defend women's rights and basic civil rights and liberties. [applause] >> emily: sandra, my question is where then is senator gillibrand, murray and all those on the screens? we played champion write speeches and there have been many and yesterday there were none. >> sandra: we have been focusing on this issue a lot on
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"america reports." we have had coaches and referees who will not referee a game because unfairness that is what they are therefore. to think there are not democrats, women in congress willing to step up for this mess so many girls and can you imagine 19 years old, she was 17 when that happened and suffered traumatic brain injury. these girls are expected to stand up by themselves to fight for themselves at 17? they have put in incredibly difficult positions. i am shocked it's gotten to this point and there is not a beggar movement to stand up against this unfairness in women's sports, not just because of unfairness and competition but the safety clearly. this will be an interesting moment and i believe with president trump. >> emily: peyton mcnabb has been a invited for the joint members of congress. she has suffered and will the rest of her life paralysis and mental impasse in addition to
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anxiety and depression and the like. she says, a boy's feelings was more important than my safety. no democrat about that. >> bill: since i am outnumbered on this couch and only male voice at this moment, it is more than the competition. i think what we learned during the campaign his father's didn't want and the locker room because of their daughters. and i think the single most effective bad that the trump team ran against kamala harris and saw how effective it was imported a ton of money into it during the campaign, since we are in the business of making predictions today, i will make a prediction today. laura libby is a republican member of the house and state of maine. she is a state representative. and she has a mother of four and i think she is 41 years old. she was on air last week. she is so opposed to this because pole vault biological male won first place and you see
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him on the stand. >> emily: got won by 8 feet. >> harris: she posted the picture. >> bill: she did and she wasn't backing down. she kept challenging lawmakers in maine. at the democrats finally censured her. i think that happened six days ago. if you want to put a period on the end of the sentence, invite laura libby to capitol hill tonight for the address. >> emily: to your point, bill, when father a soccer, a high school his daughter was on the volleyball team they are to complain about biological male in the locker room and he was suspended without pay and she was suspended from school. the courts reinstated both because the constitution is on their side to. harris go to my question is is that democrats bring the constitution has a prop, they should instead use it as what is a sacred backbone to this country because if they were, they would see how blatantly unconstitutional that is and how they are ignoring the play but
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they wrote just yesterday. we talked about the 52 bullet points. what happened to that? >> harris: the precursor for the assignment you gave him was to read it and to understand it, to memorize sections of it. that would help. maybe they have done that and they think they can be so cool encounter they can cancel the constitution. good luck with that. but this is about something more with democrats. trump has made this a lot the land at the women's town hall, how are you going to do it? executive order. this is about codifying it and giving it permanent here to the democrats fund-raising, already running for the midterms and they can counter this without getting in trouble at the american people because trump has put in place and politically protect themselves by scooting around and getting squishy on the issue and going towards the center by the time they have to run. they will never catch up with the american people on this issue. they will never catch up with 67% who say, you know what, we don't want men and women's
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locker rooms and so on and so forth. what they can do is push this can down the road, beat if i trump here to the american people still got what they wantd and they are willing to make it. >> emily: 76% in "new york times" poll so democrat squarely in the 20% of 80/20 issue against women. >> kayleigh: i'm wondering if we can flashover to the wall for a second. take a look at this wall, not a single democrat in the united states senate voted to keep biological men out of sports. not a single one of these guys. congratulations, all of you, you are with 18% who support that position according to "the new york times." you are the party of 18% they are to expand this out, that is the senate let's go to the house. when the house voted 215 house democrats. guess how many pulled in on the side of 79%? two, one abstained. when you do the math, 270
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democrats elected at the federal level to our legislature. 270, 260 rather than out of 260, two democrats voted to be with the 80%. you don't care about the girl in college who gets up 4:00 a.m. to ran track. to get don't care about the girl who has worked her entire life middle school high school to get a scholarship and you don't care about the girl getting punched by a biological man in a ring. shame on you x make 258 democrats, 258! >> emily: tonight president trump will wear a proverbial number as elevator story and all those democrats will wear the number 18 for who they are representing. more "outnumbered" in just a moment. ♪ ♪ you bet brother. stay prayed up. yeah, you know it. hey, father. you joining lent again this year? of course. alright father.
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♪ ♪ >> kayleigh: remember when president biden said he wasn't sure he had the power to secure the border? >> why are you waiting to take executive action on the border? >> because we need more forces on the border. i don't have the authority to do that. >> kayleigh: no authority pair two it took four weeks for that to be proven wrong thanks to president trump's crackdown on illegal immigration, febr february 2025 saw 8,326 encounts at the southwest border. the lowest ever documented u.s. border patrol. emily, that is quite something, i guess, where there is a will there is a way. we don't have to have biden
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t-shirt celebrating the u.s. presidency to lalas lee crossed the border. >> emily: all that needed to happen which president trump executed flawlessly, one executive order, enforcing laws and diplomatic relationship with neighboring leadership. what happened? decrease of over 93% and counting. the results are staggering and yet we will hear tonight democrats crying that nothing is being done or some type of the huge bipartisan legislation was needed. this is what the democrats campaigned on. the reality decisive action and knowing authority has, that is all we needed. >> kayleigh: the first year of his presidency, biden took 296 executive actions on immigration in 86 to undoing the trump policies. we will see migrants rushing the border el paso putting the great immigration officers and danger, sandra. >> sandra: in the prediction business i will be as well. this will be a huge part of
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president trump's message tonight. what has already happened and what is currently happening and yet to happen. think about the messaging coming from border czar, tom homan. when he was headed to boston, i'm coming and i'm bringing hell with me. the message the american people said they wanted this as we lead up to election day. they cheered on this administration protecting the migrant gang tren de aragua in cities all over the country right now. criminals here and have been illegally. as far as didn't have the power, president biden used to say, on his watch, aoc, how about that new interview? what problem? not only did he say he didn't have the power to tackle the border, that democrats didn't even say it was a real. they said the border was secure. that is what got us in the mess. wow! when you put up the numbers and i have them here, he can tout a lot has happened in the first
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few weeks of his presidency. >> kayleigh: obama claimed i have a pen and a phone and i can use it and if president biden could work with student debt to work around the supreme court. >> bill: many times. i think this job is just scratching the surface. tomorrow 10:00 a.m., there is a hearing in the house and having four significant democrat mayors from sanctuary cities appear, amber, said chicago, boston, in new york city. to some of the illegal migrants who have committed crimes are in the custody of the authorities in the cities. i.c.e. wanted to get them and send them back and they were defied. guys, a lot of these cases are really difficult for a politician. we are talking sex crimes and more at 10:00 a.m. eastern. >> harris: what you said is so important. >> kayleigh: let's get to this
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quick trump responding to canadian prime minister trudeau writing on truth social, please explain to trudeau of canada when he puts on totalitarian tariffs will increase by a like amount. harris, the fight on your show. it doesn't seem like trump is backing down. >> harris: look, he's not president trump. his prime minister at the neighboring country on his way out. and i don't think he gained out the things he said and the effect it could potentially have on the canadian people. he made a selfish move today. jay called the president of the united states dom. so look, or his actions down and effectively the same way he put it. so look, this is not going to lift canada's position at all. it just makes the art of the deal much more difficult for trudeau on behalf of his country and he is running out of time. we are dealing with him and in
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less than 30 days by the end of this month, begins to replace him for exit on the announcement a month and a half ago. we will deal with somebody else. if he really wants -- he has nothing to lose and i put this out there but i think, his legacy leadership in that country. he is marring the name trudeau four times to come. he needs to zelenskyy this either get on your x, pick up the phone and say, here is what i meant. cleanup on the isle as it happens. >> kayleigh: sandra, i think back to the first term and political trump drops tariffs on mexico after migration deal is reached. we remember the mca it was a tariffs threat with the trade deal. a lot of times we trump, he is taking these moves in making these moves pursuant to something on the horizon that you have to have another later on the other side willing to concede. trudeau doesn't have a lot to
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lose on the way out the door. >> sandra: he's jammed up a lot of support saying we will not be taken advantage of and if he sticks to that he will get support for this. this is playing out in a public way. i was speaking at the markets to see if reaction to the presidents response and they have come off at their lows. >> harris: look at that. >> sandra: this is fascinating to see this play out in such a public way. >> harris: how do investors see this? >> sandra: uncertainty. i don't think you can look at the market and say it doesn't like the tariffs loves the tariffs because the market is up when they were down one day, uncertainty. infested investors can't answer the markets will go down if they don't know what is happening next. perhaps that is what we are seeing. >> harris: perhaps canada will call. >> kayleigh: we will wait with a bait to make bated breath and it will play out, more "outnumbered" in just a moment
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we talked to the commonwealth attorney general and also check in with katie pavlich and jimmy failla. all of that coming your way a jam-packed two hours, i'm john roberts enjoying sandra metheny at the top of that hour for "american reports." we will see them. >> emily: what counts as team? a new survey reveals surprising differences in how americans define infidelity. to the results could make or break a relationship. 60% of respondents say talking to an x counts as being unfaithful. that tops the list. half of americans say they would confront their partner about keeping photos with a ex on phone or social media. flirting with others and hiding passwords and watching adult videos listed as potential deal breakers. >> sandra: and blessing. >> is as bringing me back to original days? >> bill: that is good.
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>> sandra: a lot of things listed as cheating. it depends on how conservative you are in your relationship. probably should not be talking to exes as well. some people are friends with their past. i'm going to leave this conversation. [laughter] >> kayleigh: the line was perceived by the betrayal. as hiding a password that the number shocked me how many respondents said gas, these things were deal breakers. >> kayleigh: all of that is cheating to me. i'm old school but my husband is not going to go to dinner with a female and i'm not going to go to dinner with a male. i view that each their own but draw hard lines and it is totally cheating to talk to and ex and keep pictures on your phone, who are you? come on, guys! >> emily: disrespectful. >> bill: kayleigh is drying a
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hard-line. >> emily: as you are navigating a new boyfriend -- >> harris: keep your options open and you are dating, loops! [laughter] kind of sorry, not sorry. but sandra has my receipt so i have to be careful. i think i have said at one point a married but not dead. i think that -- >> emily: not blind. >> harris: not blind? a little, that is what i said. when you've been married as long as i have, 22 years in april. >> emily: congratulations. >> harris: my husband said we have eyes and will appreciate the world out there, but we don't engage with the world. that is the sanctity of marriage. we are special to one another through the relationship, but that doesn't mean that somebody walks by, might catch and i and neither one of us looks up so it has to be special. i think he has a kitchen past. >> bill: if you are married and don't share your password,
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