control, all we needed to do was empower these guys to do their job. thank god they have done their job, we are thrilled they have done it. >> the trump administration claiming all the measures they took into effect, and everything they ended like catch and release and mass parole programs. the vice president expected to be here any minute to wrap up his visit here at eagle pass. >> martha: thank you very much, we will be watching that live co. that is the story for this wednesday, we will see right back here tomorrow at 3:00, thank you for joining us, "the will cain show" getting rolling in a few seconds from now. have a good evening everybody, we will see you tomorrow. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> will: live from texas, this

is "the will cain show". several miles south to the border of texas and mexico, vice president j.d. vance, defense jay pete hegseth and tulsi gabbard aren't setting up to speak to us about the status of america's sound border. -- are -- let's listen now to the vice president of the united states. >> some bad news and good news. the bad news, because of what joe biden did at the southern border for four years, we had record increases in migrant crime, fantino deaths, floods and floods of people who came into the united states. we have a number of ways the cartels have become more advanced, that are war fighters because joe biden opened up the border and out of the cartels to turn it into their playground. the good news is as president trump he said last

night at the state of the union, turns out we don't need new laws influencing new legislation, we just needed a new president of the united states. that is exactly what we have. the most heartening message i take away from my visit at the texas border is the number of border patrol agents i have come up and decided thank you or side because of this, we have cut the number of border crossings from 1500 a day now 30 a day. or the people that have said we have seen a reduction in 85% of the people dying at the american southern border, every single day that we continue to keep it as border safe, means less migrant crime, less of fentanyl coming into our communities, more safety and security for the people of the united states of america. we know the border crisis under biden's administration was a national crisis, and acutely -- it acutely affected the communities here.

i have heard heartbreaking stories of people still picking up pieces, local mayors still dealing with the budgetary consequences of what the joe biden administration allowed to happen at the american southern border. that is something that president trump he will help address, help fix and solve. i wanted to bring pete hegseth and director tulsi gabbard here because i obviously enjoy their company and it's good to have them down here with me looking around today, and fortunately we know because of what has happened, the border crisis has become a matter of national intelligence. it is also become seminar requires a department of defense to engage with. as spoke earlier, the drone technology that the cartels are using it requires and fortunately a military response and military support. it is important for secretary hegseth to see what is going on, we know the millions and

millions of people letting under the last four years, menu are connected to foreign terrorists. it's important to the leader of the national intelligence to understand what's going on. before we take questions from the press, all of us are willing, i would like to take an opportunity to jay had said and tulsi gabbard is a few words themselves. >> mr. vice president thank you for inviting us, great to be here with you, the drug jacob fowler friends and -- civilian clothes and other shades of green. it's a demonstration of a new partnership at the south and border. as president trump he has made clear, border security is national security. from the defense department we have watched for a couple of decades other people's borders being secured while ours was open for an invasion of drugs and violence and chaos.

that stops under president trump and the defense department has assets we can bring to bear, not just troops and surveillance, not just equipment, but actual planning capabilities that enhance what border patrol is already doing. which is wide been incredible to hear from our partners about what we have been able to allow them to do, facilitate them and we see it in the numbers. 9080% drop in crossings at the south and border. we are not -- 98% -- we are on our way to a hundred percent operation control. that is the mandate. more resources are coming to the border, they are dedicated to securing it, that is the reason -- reason for our trip and partnership. i would like to thank the men and women doing it recently and a long time, dedicating their lives to securing the american people, and at the defense

department and we are committed to being a pick part of this. thank you for having the vice president. >> directorate -- director of national intelligence, tessa gabbard you want thank you for your leadership in bringing the country's attention to what has been happening here at the board and the significant change that has occurred under that short time president trump he has been in office. what we continue to see as a unified effort with the trump security team, department of homeland security towards our mission which is insurer free, safe and prosperous society for americans. as director of national intelligence there are a number of areas we are focused. the president talked about in his speech over 21 million have come across our borders illegally under the joe biden administration, menu we do not know who they are. they have not been vetted. i will give you one example of one of the problems we are

getting after. from central asia there were over 4000 people who came across our borders using an ice is affiliated network. i would national counterterrorism center went and identified those individuals, there were hundreds of them that were either known terrorists or associated with known terrorists. that information was provided to the biden administration, a little over 100 of those people were arrested in 2024. of those who were arrested, only eight were either deported or remained in custody. the rest of them were released back into our country. where are they, what are they doing, what may they be plotting? this is just the beginning. there are many areas we have to say very focused on, working with the department of homeland security, fbi, make sure we're keeping the american people safe. i would counterterrorism center is working to make sure we have that single source for vetting so we can figure out who is in

our country and identify those who pose a threat and get them removed. the president's designation of the cartels as a terrorist organization, especially as we see the tactics these cartels are using, reflects the tactics we have seen used by islamist terrorists and countries many of us have served in overseas. our mission is clear, our objective is to make keep the american people safe. i'm grateful to be a part of this team that was assembled to accomplish this mission. thank you. >> it before i take question, two final things, the reason we have seen 98% reduction in border crossings, the reason why this side went from over 1500 crossings per day now 30 crossings per day, is because president trump he empowered and in fact demanded his whole government take the task of border control seriously. that is exactly what we are doing.

my final point before we take questions, it is impossible to do without the men and women on the ground that are doing the hard work. they just want to be empowered to do their jobs. president trump has made that possible. for the grateful nation, to every person i've met today, thank you for working hard on the american people's business, it's an honor to see what you do and we will keep supporting you over the next four years. congressman gonzalez thank you for your leadership. questions from reporters? >> reporter: you said that border crossings were down, a lot of attention turned to the interior, what is in your opinion the biggest obstacle to actually carrying out president trump's mass deportation? there's apprehensions and arrests that have gone up but a lot of people are expecting a bigger capacity.

>> a few things about that, rome was not built in a day. they have seen significance decreases in deportation and apprehensions and arrests, we have to remember president biden guided the immigration and enforcement regime. we are trying to rebuild -- guided -- gutted -- there are a couple of other things we're working on. i don't want to get ahead of public announcements, one of the ways we want to make sure we are enforcing our border is make it easier for people here illegally to go back home on their own accord. we don't want to go around and arrest every person but we will enforce the american people immigration laws. if you are here illegally the message from the administration is, you should go back home, if you want to go to the united states, apply through the proper channels. final thing, this costs money. one of the most of mourning

parts of the priorities as tax reform on the one hand, on the other hand making sure we get proper resources so we can pay for the flights and we can pay for the detention centers and other components necessary to make sure we are migrating illegal immigrants box their country of origin. i guarantee it's a part of the president's priorities. we have made a lot of progress but we will keep working on it. >> reporter: i would like to ask about the border wall and tariffs, first on the border wall. daily caller. how do you and the president defined success with the border wall and how much does it have to be walled off before trump leaves auspice? >> i think his hope is that we build the entire border wall by the end of his time, that's the physical structure but we heard

today there are some new technological tools, sony great ai technologies that allow us for example -- not a person but a camera pick somebody up 2 miles away that is about to come across a southern border. maybe it's livestock, maybe it's a critter in the desert, maybe it's a human being with a weapon on their back. we are using artificial intelligence to make us better the job of border enforcement. but we have to make sure that technology is deployed across the entire southern border, we will do as much as we can as broadly as we can because that's how we will protect the american people security. >> reporter: asked him they were paused because they deployed 10,000 troops to the border, what can they do this time to make the tariffs go away? >> the president said we need a sustained commitment from the government of mexico to take the

border security seriously, fentanyl is a single largest cause of death among young americans and we know a substantial portion of it, the precursors i made in china, they come to mexico, manufactured in mexico and bought a -- brought across the board by the drug cartels. we want to see fewer americans dying of these fentanyl overdoses, we will apply as much leverage as possible. in the samways, the president obviously cares about the american people, i think he is doing a huge favor to the people of mexico because if they don't get control of these cartels, the people of mexico will wake up in a narco state -- state for the cartels have more power than their government. president trump is trying to help, the mexican government needs to take this issue seriously. in the back? >> ali bradley, news nation. since the designation of cartels as terrorists, does that give

the united states a green light to go into mexico and strike them there? obviously they have struck the i.c.e. that we -- houthi in yemen -- second question, why is the war not designated when it's in one of them was that -- deadliest places on the planet? one of the deadliest cities, right across from el paso. we spoke to community leaders, we know is that cartels are up to, we don't even want to talk about her out loud because there will be a target on our back. the state department did not tell me why. >> we are looking at additional organizations. that terminate -- a determination of particular organizations as a terrorist organization is something that we consult with our leaders in the department of defense, we

maintain the option nullity to designate further organizations terrorist organizations if we feel we need to in order to protect the american people. i think president trump has made it clear he will not be shy designating these cartels organizations if he thinks he has to put to protect the american people. your first question was about -- >> american forces striking? >> i will not make any announcements about invasions of mexico. the president will speak to these issues as he feels necessary. why designating cartel organizations allows as to do is deploy the full resources of the united states military to engage in border enforcement. the president will make the determination about how we deploy those forces but our hope is mexico takes his job seriously. we don't want to have negative relationships with the mexican government, they want them to help themselves.

but also in the process to help the american people by taking these organizations seriously. it will destabilize the entire country of mexico, the entire government if they don't take it more seriously. if they don't, we will figure out what to do from there. >> reporter: you mention something about the invasion of mexico, are there any talks about actually u.s. military forces going into mexico? >> no, next question. >> reporter: on tariffs got any other industries except the automotive was, did the automotive industry know this was coming? >> and number of industries reached out to us to ask is for exceptions to the tariffs. i think the president was clear, he wants the tariffs to apply broadly. it is owned 500 different industries getting 500 different

things, the way to avoid application of the tariffs is to have your factory and have your facility in the united states of america. that is the way. invest in america, that is how you will avoid being penalized by the tariffs. >> reporter: you have been talking about the improvements you are administration has done here with the crossings. can you talk about the de kleijn prior to president trump taking office under the divided administration -- decline. >> apparently members of the drug cartel figured out in december that joe biden was asleep at the wheel and they have to deal with it then president-elect and now president. if you look at what drove the decline, people will tell you, they knew that donald trump was coming back into office, he would take border enforcement seriously, they were getting ahead of actually coming down -- cutting down this illegal border crossings.

we saw that in mexico, we were threatening economic sanctions there. we even said that was a cartels. it takes time to get from the deepest parts of central america to the american southern border. but we often find is that there massive numbers of illegal immigrants who have already started to make the track and decided it because donald trump's president we will go back home. we heard about a honduran group of migrants who decided they would just go back home because they recognized under donald trump's leadership would take border enforcement seriously. thank you all, take care. >> will: vice president j.d. vance, secretary pete hegseth, director tulsi gabbard. and eagle pass, texas talking about america's southern border. there has been a vibe shift, a lot of talk about correction toward sanity. two thank stood out from the press conference we just hard.

a position, a pivot toward sanity from the press. i do acknowledge there is a different press pool following around this administration. we heard saint questions. not like the past, why are you so racist? we heard saint questions, questions like whether be -- sane -- will there be operations and how well we go to extending this border? what is your biggest impediment to executing deportations? i found it interesting, despite conversations we had here on the "the will cain show" show where the potential of the american military to make strikes on mexican drug cartels in mexico, when asked directly, he said no. the majority of the meeting, we heard was about the 98% drop in border crossings over the first two months of this administration. let's dive in. here are the numbers as laid out

over the first couple of months, border crossings in february dropped to 8300 apprehensions, down from 29,000 in january down from 47,000 in december. how is this possible? i was told those numbers one year ago six months ago, they were the fault of donald trump. i was told i trump got in the way of the border bill and that's what was stopping us from controlling the border. comprehensive immigration policy. what does that mean? that is a coined phrase to remain at d.c., holding border security hostage by providing a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants. that border bill was not necessary. simply, and you president. >> president trump: since taking office might administration launch the most sweeping border and immigration crackdown in american history, we quickly achieved the lowest number is of illegal border crosses ever recorded, thank

you. the media and our friends in the democratic party kept saying we needed new legislation, we must have legislation to secure the border. it turned out that all we really needed was a new president. chirp laws -- [cheering and applause] >> will: i was told he cannot get this done three executive orders, despite the fact that joe biden opened is awarded with executive orders, that was apparently a one-way revolving door. you could not close the border with executive orders, that's what we were told by joe biden. >> have you made a final decision on taking the executive order in terms of what you want to do at the border, including the power to shut down the border? v9 it was suggested. >> the president has been afforded to do something about this unilaterally.

>> why should he have to do a unilaterally? >> to those who think that if president trump wins we will get a better deal, you won't. >> the intelligence community, we are doing everything we can to be as vigilant as we can. >> give me the power! >> will: they refuse to close the border with the same executive power with opening the board and held the order security for comprehensive reform. why? that was laid out today when we had from democratic mayors from sanctuary cities across the country appearing before congress. >> do you acknowledge it is a crime? yes or no? honorable johnston, you will not answer the question, is a braking into country against the law? may johnston? yes or no? >> comprehensive -- cover hands of reform --

>> yes or no? >> yes. >> breaks the law should be held accountable. >> this is why you have 6% of polling because you suck at answering questions. >> will: president trump you last night answered all questions, laid out for an hour to have his vision for restoring the american dream. as he laid his way into the chamber last night, there was an image of what democratic congresswoman holding up the sign behind him. the sign read, this is not normal. to that, my next guest treated the following, he said "what is not normal? is that the lady behind you ain't teal in her posture? "joining me now the president of a barstool sports, what's up david, how are you? >> i am good how are you? >> will: i am good, i don't

think it is normal. i think everything happening in america now is not normal. everybody can acknowledge that. is that good or is that bad? for many voters they were ready to break the way things were normally done in washington, d.c. >> i would agree with that guy that is why trump was elected. people were planning for him to do exactly what he was elected to do. they newsy something like last night and it feels like a kindergarten skate, i'm not sure of that is too dissimilar from a lot of state of the unions where there is theatrics but it is surreal! to be honest, it's like watching reality tv. it's also sickening to the uses are our elected officials, so divided, with the faults and all the different things going on, the guy with the cane getting the boot. if you were an alien and you

landed on earth and you willing, hey,, these are the elected people, that humans, the aliens what invaders and three seconds working at this clown show. it's a surreal thing to watch. >> will: when i think of decorum to be honest, surprised to hear you be the defender of decorum and congress. it is not to bother me to see them hold up their little placards and hold up the signs that say this is not normal. what i'd take issue with is the substance they are choosing to make the point over. yesterday trump rattles off a list of accomplishments, including a kid who survived cancer who was given a seeker to honorary badge, including keeping men out of woman sports, included arresting one of the terrorists responsible for the abbe gate bombing end of gann's. that is the stuff they chose to

sit on the hands about. -- afghanistan -- i don't mind the react -- theatrics but i think it is important when they choose to do it. >> trump nailed it, shadow to my dad this goes to him, if trump handed my data $100, my dad would say what are you doing? 1200? trump said that during the speech, he could cure cancer and they would say, well you did not get aids did you. that is how the people don't like trump, it does not matter what he did and what he said, what prison was there, they will never clap, it will never stand or acknowledge, they hate his guts and there is nothing he can do every to change that. >> will: here is that moment, curing one of the worst diseases and it would not please democrats. >> he is a hundred percent accurate.

they are never going to give him any credit or acknowledgement and that is really the sadness of american politics. of course trump has a personality where he comes right back -- if i walk in and i see these losers with blackbirds, this is nonnormal, and they are not standing in there waving their cane at me, i will talk exactly like he does and poke fun at then which turns into do we delete. i'm not offended, it's entertainment but it is our elected officials. i'm not thinking of decorum. >> will: only 21% of americans approve of the way democrats are handling their role in congress. you said your dad, is that because he hates it donald trump so much there is nothing he can do to please your dad? what's interesting is, the proverbial you, you back of the house up into an anti-trump

corners so badly that you find yourselves incapable of celebrating things that are not republican or democrat. i don't think partisan, i think you and i have a lot of disagreement. we have talked about some of those. but you can't find yourself hating trump when what you are opposing is not just republican stuff but like, american stuff. regular and making values. >> i'll hundred% agree. it's a debate i have. they have been beating this drum, this guy is a threat to democracy, compare him to a nazi. they cannot take a step back and say maybe we were wrong, or maybe the majority of the country wanted him in office, and we are the minority making all this noise. my dad was getting mad at trump that you looks young for his age! we won on a tangent about that.

it is a broken brain syndrome that we have had a for a long time with trump in this country, it is sad and unfortunate. >> will: again when i had you on today, is that i had dave on, we will talk about what happened last night and i don't want to push you into this partisan place. i know you endorsed trump before the election but you are not partisan, but i am internalizing this, where is the democratic party now? anything with an almost 80% approval rating, they are on the 20% side. they are in support of things i don't have anything to do with a make a like ukraine. that is the one thing that we can roll with, you did not hear democratic applause, you brought -- he heard applause when they mention funding ukraine.

watch this. okay we don't have that. he said pocahontas like that and pocahontas continues to clap. it's audit that's the one time that they can clap when it has nothing to do with america. >> you are not pushing into a partisan take here, there is a reason i was pro-trump in the election. i was nikki haley before that. the reaction in the way that democrats, the way they handled themselves last night, continued to handle themselves, they don't acknowledge they lost a fair election or the will of the american people was donald trump. they pushed people like me to trump because there's so adamant they are right and the other side is wrong. it's not partisan, it's the democrats pushed a majority of the middle and people like myself to vote republican.

the democratic party is in shambles because of that. >> will: you know what i am not pushing a, this is how i feel as well. you are opposing the 80% proposition, and you're only celebrating those that are issues outside the united states. on that issue on ukraine, i did see your video were you analysed the meeting, i know we have this video, here's a little bit of that. >> the most surreal thing of everything and politics. i got was watching bravo tv. it's hard to be like how can you act like this, not have some degree of compassion for ukraine like imagine if somebody invaded the united states, and we cannot defend ourselves without the help of other people. having said all that, i am on trump side more than i'm on volodymyr zelenskyy side here. this previous administration, biden, sat there beating their chest, threatening russia,

putin, calling him a dictator and a killer, and what has that got us? hundreds of billions of dollars given to ukraine and it no closer to end english my ending this war. >> will: this is what i like that you said -- i don't begrudge volodymyr zelenskyy, advocating in whatever way possible for his country. but i'm glad to have a president that sees it the same way for his country that is looking for the interest of america, prioritized over the interest of ukraine. you were practical, how much are you beating your chest and shoving money solve this problem? maybe try a different way. >> a hundred percent i agree with that. it's a hard area. anybody who things the war in ukraine is black and white, i don't buy that. people are dying, it's a war going on but i tend to be america first. and what trump said, doing this

why for the next ten years? gave them money and be at a stalemate? does not seem like russia's backing off and ukraine is not giving up their country. what is the solution and the advantage if you want to bring putin to the table, volodymyr zelenskyy dieng that calling him every word in the book? bring both guys to the table and hopefully shunned the loss of life and sending money. >> will: dave portnoy, barstool sports, always an interesting conversation. >> sorry we got caught on that by the way. >> will: you are a celtics fan, i'm sure you hate kari irving. i want to hear from dave about this! of never seen a franchise implode in 30 days. [chuckling] >> that is why i came on, had to get it in there. >> will: am glad we left you that much for that. take care.

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an example. >> will: one example. i am so taken aback by somebody with a celebrity power and fame of mark wahlberg mark wahlberg so honestly and openly owning his faith. it is so rare. today is ash wednesday, we are diving into the state of religion, the overall population of christians in the united states has been declining since 2007, the recent poll shows it has slowed down and plateaued around 62%. were next guess converted to catholicism just one year ago, tammy peterson, the wife of dr. jordan peterson, joins me now. tammy when i say one year ago, that is because you and i spoke one year ago. i am glad to talk to you just about one year later, if you would not mind, i will pick up

right where we left off. you said something to me one year ago, you said when you and gordon were married, you founded your relationship into speaking the truth. tell me what that means, that was your value and vow to each other that you would live in the truth? >> when we were first going to be may read, jordan asked me to be married and said the only way we could be married is if we both told the truth. i had to meditate on that for a number of months, just to see who i was in terms of truth. i had to look at myself and i decided to the end of fixed months, i was finishing a university degree, that i would go there and marry him and promised to tell the truth. that began a life of negotiation with my husband. we never kept anything from each other, we always discussed what was on our minds and come to some sort of negotiation until we had a sense of play about us

again, so we said what we needed to say and we came to a place that was satisfying to both of us. we have done that in our marriage, raising our children, we continue to do that on our work now that takes us around the world. we discussed what we're doing, how long we will do it, if it is still meaningful, that is all discussed. that way we don't have any undercurrent of discontent in our relationship. >> will: i could hear it in you, it is harder than it so sounds. we can all save you want to live in the truth but we cover up the truth in niceties and white lies and silence and we bury things that are bothering us. living in truth is hard. then i wrote this down, you told me, you had to question or not

whether or not you were doing that, or whether you were being driven by self-will. that debate with yourself led you towards god. on looking back at our conversation and i wonder what did you mean by self-will? >> well... i would not wake up in the morning like i do now, now i wake up in the morning and ask god what he has for me today. and i tell him that i'm willing to take up the challenge, whatever he has in store for me. and never started my day like that before. i would wake up in the middle of the night, early morning, i may have something on my mind that was bothering me. and i would work on that tho thought, by the time i got up in the morning i may be quite worried or afraid of something or bothered by something, and

that would be an undercurrent of all my interactions during the day. once it started to pray, all of those thoughts that would take control of what i was thinking, i began to pray as soon as those thoughts appear now because i know they are taking me down a path that is not god's will. it's my mind, or something that has happened in the world that is driving my path of attention, and i'm not interested in that anymore. it is not take me to the best place. the best places when i listen to god's will and i follow what is the next in the world has to be done, without my control. without my thoughts. >> will: i think i'm down to the last 30 seconds, i really like this conversation we have

had. under that cancer helped push you down this path, gratitude is a big part of your faith, but this whole concept of truth and letting go of yourself, serving a truth that is bigger than you and your control over it, i hear that in your journey a lot. truth is important to me, but i know how little control i have over all of it. you have to give up that to faith at some point. >> a "yes". i have been developing love and trust and prayer. as a three virtues that i hold dear and tried to humble myself to, if my family comes to me and asks me for something, i tried to see if i can offer them love and trust they are asking me for what they need.

so i can respond with love and attention. love and attention are the same thing, if they have the right attention, if your intention is good, your attention and love is good. >> will: in her short cable news segment twice we have gone deep together, only had to take a yearlong break in between. thank you they match. tammy peterson. forget what transgender activists tell you, that is a new study that shows a true dark side of gender affirmation care or sex change operation. my next guest who the whistle back on this in 2023, joining me next. and earlier, does gove governor ron desantis --

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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> will: snowy minnesota mountains. i get. a story that deserves a lot of attention in a deep dive, the new study of oxford's journal of medicine and it shows transgender people are more depressed and suicidal after undergoing sex change operations. in fact,, man who underwent of these surgeries are two times more depressed than those who did not to transition.

now much different for woman, where than a quarter who transition door depressed. my next guest knows a lot about this, as surgeon charged with leaking the records of under aged patients gender tradition. gender transition related care. this was dropped after trump took office. by the way also at last night's address! dr., thank you for being with those. let's talk about this oxford study. are you surprised by this, it's not just depression, it's suicidal thoughts, anxiety, anxiety spikes. the minute you transition. it goes from 2 percent, then 13%. all the different things it is supposed to alleviate it makes worse. >> we have to ask ourselves, is

this any surprise? if you were to convince somebody they are the opposite sex and the rest of their lives he have to depend on medications and surgery, with a not be miserable every single day to live that lie and commit themselves fully to it? never to be free from the hospital medical complex? that is why i find these studies so interesting, as a doctor and scientist to have to ask yourself, can we answer this question with the reason alone? in medicine, the most important treatments we have are not guided by randomized controlled trials or statistics, it's simply rational thought and logical thinking. if you have somebody who is bleeding, you stop the bleeding. if you have submitted has an infection, drain of the infection and treated.

if you have something that has mental anguish who believes they are the opposite sex, the answer is not chemotherapy, drugs and surgery. the answer is to listen to that person, understand where that pane confirms, to be there for the prison and make sure they know that they are perfect just the way they are. we don't have to complicated too much, i think we all understand we can answer this question. >> will: of course the study will show that yes. but why this study is important is it is giving you reason, logic and data that backs up what you intuitively knew in common sense. i want to hammer this, it's important. this 100,000 people in this study, it's a lot of people into the study done by oxford. dr., even the name guided gender-affirming care, the way

this entire thing has been characterized, the argument it is made to validate as we are saving people from potential suicide. if we don't do this, people will kill themselves. they say that specifically about children. or they will have severe mental health issues like depression. this is saying the opposite. if you do this, if you medically transition them, you will make depression and potential for suicide worse. that should be an open and shut case, book closed, over. no more doctors endorsing this. >> especially when you consider gender-affirming care, it's this euphemism that is meant to invert the reality of the situation, what you are doing is affirming to those exact of what they are. you bring up a really good point about the members of the patients in this study, the ones that were bbc down by the

doctors to justify doing this to children, these are typically small numbers of patients. if you manipulate things in a certain way, you can come up with whatever result he wants. once you start getting to higher number of patients, a wider sample size, you will have the reality of this study line up with what you see in the real world. the name was designed from the beginning to deceive people about what it really is, it's a bubbly sounding sympathetic, really you know, you hear it and it sounds good but it cannot be more opposite of the truth. what it really is because it's sterilization and humanize -- humiliation. those words are the most scientifically accurate ways to

ascribe what is happening, mutilation, the infliction of a disfiguring energy -- injury onto an individual. and sterilization is the removal of their fertility. and it not only applies to surgeries but also medications, the hormones and the blockers, those will disfigure you from the inside out. there is no surgery in the world that can change your hormonal state. like every single square inch of your blood vessels go to the hormones that go through there, those medications will change all of that. your brain chemistry, your bones, or sexual development. everything. >> will: very quickly, we have one minute. so the oath is do no harm, that is first. we are talking about doing harm here. realization sterilization. how do you say your entire profession seems to endorse this as a legitimate medical treatment that violates the hippocratic oath, by the way, to

be in fashion and be socially acceptable. there is clearly no medical backing for what is going on in your profession. >> it's interesting you say that, 5 minutes ago right before this was a patient in a clinic, we have lost complete trust in doctors. they trust me because i've seen them before, but you have to tell the truth and you have to do so courageously. you cannot be equivocal. you can order to be the truth. if these doctors are doing things or harming patients, we have to say to honestly. we have to make sure we hold these people accountable and we don't let them get away with what they knew was wrong all along. the first step is telling the

truth, second step is, holding these people accountable in a real way. >> will: right. you have done the first step today. thank you so much for being with us, we had a good time last night at the joint session of congress. >> thank you, i appreciate it. >> will: time never will of the people, d.j. says i just think of pizza. all about pizza for me. he runs a gigantic sports website as well. jackie adding a love your opening, welcome to texas. finally victor says thank you and all of your producers for bringing as the honest to god truth. sometimes a call for things, taking it out of order and make it hard on everybody! on that following a script or order, sometimes we messed up. that is the way it goes! ♪ ♪