that that's not proper? do you agree contractor should be treated equally and given the same information? there is an entire industry of lawyers and ethics to make sure that happens and that's apparently not happening. >> will: to be clear to you and everybody watching right now i have 30 seconds until my show ends so cutting this conversation short is going to be because of that fact. but do i think elon has more information yes but he's promised a level of transparency and should any conflict of interest comes up he hopes he can lay it out for all of us to see in the market for the public. i think of this conversation the one you and i started about saving astronauts from space we are talking about a great use of his genius. i got nine seconds, i appreciate the conversation. i look forward to bringing astronauts home. we get to the heart of the matter. ♪ ♪ >> jesse: i'm jesse watters along with judge jeanine pirro,

harold ford, jr., dana perino and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is the five. it pains me to report this but democrats are in disarray. the paddle wielding losers who couldn't clap for a kid with brain cancer are discovering new ways to embarrass their party that is currently less popular than a venereal disease. after that copy and paste a travesty we showed you the other day they are lurking as a street fighter is. ♪ ♪ [super smash brothers melee theme]

john fetterman is torching their paddle protest by calling it "a sad cavalcade of cell phones and unhinged petulance that only makes trump look more presidential end restrained. we are becoming the metaphorical car alarms and nobody pays attention to and it may not be the winning message. earlier the grumpy ponytail rocking democrat who heckled the president's speech getting censured by congress, leading democrats to burst out in song. >> representative al green be censured with a public reading of this resolution by the speaker. ♪ ♪ >> jesse: who can turn around this dumpster fire? tampon tim is getting his name out there but he has no answers

on who will fill the void. >> the idea of a president standing at that rostrum and throwing a slur at a united states senator in the middle because you disagree on policy is absolutely ridiculous. >> who do you think the leader of the democratic party is right now? >> i think the voting public right now is what i would say. i keep telling them that. we aren't going to have a charismatic leader right in and save us from this. >> jesse: dana perino. >> dana: it's interesting to hear him say that because the bar is so low that even greg could step over at. >> greg: unnecessary, the show just started to. >> dana: i'm actually the shortest person at fox. but you can't have your voting public be the leaders, that doesn't make any sense. a few years ago all the democrats were considered cool, remember aoc was considered cool, the cover of magazines,

they were the cool kids. right now i feel like they care more about what their consultants are saying to them than what their constituents are saying to them. i would doge all the consultants. they are not getting their money's worth. it is uncomfortable to be an older person that is asked to do silly things and that's what they have been asked to do. you can see they are not quite comfortable with that but they are trying to be cool and they are following the consultants wherever the consultants say to go rather than following their instincts. the other night hakeem jeffries goal -- she's a democratic leader in the house. the goal was don't be part of the story. don't make yourselves a part of the story and we have led the chauffeur to go days now after the speech about how terrible the democrats are. that's a pretty remarkable thing when president trump makes news every other minute. >> jesse: you don't have to be told by a consultant to act like a child, you are a child. >> greg: i'm a child at heart

mainly because i have the heart of a child inside me -- thank you dr. stevens. him it's great to try to connect with the youth vote through pop culture, with this -- one of the going to start eating tide pods? come on, guys, i want to see it. they are in a pickle. i don't know how they're going to get out of out of this. trump is blessed with this advantage or the left starts with the fact and creates a dilution to invalidate the fact, let's say the fact is boys and girl are different. the left runs that through the gender delusion mill and proceeds unchallenged for years because the media are cowards. then the trump comes in and reverses the trajectory. he says kids identifying as trans, big lie. and everybody just breeds the sigh of relief and he's doing this not just with trans but open borders and with crime, pulling the rug out from under

the left when delusion -- and people are cheering but that rug is under the democratic party. i have a theory. i know a lot of people suffered from 2022 mag 2024. but it was great that biden won or "won" i would like to thank the media for rigging the election through censorship, oppression, and hoaxes and by pushing the five people hopes which joe biden credited for him entering the race. what that god is the democratic party to expose itself to all in its current shape. it was unchallenged for years, now you can see it as morally and mentally bankrupts. you know how democrats always say it's good to be seen? you need to be seen -- are you being seen? now you are being seen by all of america and you're making them vomit because you believe trans men have more rights than real girls or that open borders,

the security and safety of a country and that crime is only pursued if it benefits you politically. all this stuff is killing you. i don't know any way back. to my point, the biden presidency talk to the american public all the irrational behavior from 2162 mag 2020 wasn't caused by trump because it got worse when trump left. so trump wasn't the virus they were saying, he was the vaccine, except in this case it works. >> jesse: speaking of which you've gotten 17 boosters, harold ford jr.? >> harold: seven? good to be with you. we have to understand these pendulum swings, i don't believe the democrats are destined to be out of power in the white house indefinitely. but what i do agree with is the message right now is kind of nonexistent, you can't even say

it's not resonating because it really is no message. the only message is that we don't like donald trump and we think his ideas are not worthy of serious consideration. the problem is we had an election and what people said you know what, we like some of the ideas or maybe they were saying we like some of the ideas and we don't like any of you guys ideas. i give tim walz some credit -- i don't like something he said last week but i give a little credit, he may be onto something when he says the leaders of the democratic party are the american people. because the american people voted to give republicans a majority in the house, a majority in the senate, and they gave them the presidency. they also gave democrats that years ago and elected to go terms for barack obama. of the people are where you have to listen. if you start there -- here are the three things i would ask my party to do. some of its painful. dana had it right about firing the consultants, some of the consultants are my friends they should be fired. the voices in the

democratic party malkmus my friends, leaders of the house and senate -- step down. we need new voices. don't just lift up a person on tuesday and wednesday, don't lift up senator slotkin to give the response. lift up people not just because they are younger but people who actually have ideas, people who actually are willing to be daring and courageous and not just challenge president trump because they don't like him for something he said ten years ago, five years ago or even an hour ago but someone says i don't like him -- i hear john fetterman saying some of this. the ideas we have to put for forward. to get those ideas, tim walz's right to. they have to get on 15 or 20 different buses and just go out and listen. get yelled at by people. democrats, republicans, let them tell you what it is they like, don't pay them to come. just show them to come -- people might be inspired by capitalism to come some of these things, show up in the morning at a

breakfast, show up in the afternoon at a gas station and listen to people. let that to be the beginning and the middle and the end of what we come back with in terms of our ideas. it may take a minute but i tell you this, no one wants to hear from the same old people. republican's, show some grace, don't censure this guy al green, had a bad moment, you have to have some grace. dems, the real issue is on us, no need to blame mike johnson and donald trump when to blame ourselves. >> jeanine: you know what grace is? that al green as a congressman from the same district where d.j., the 13-year-old cancer victim is from. grace would have been being a little more tolerant of that whole speech. i think it's an insult that little boys congressman -- during that speech. that's just for starters.

performances, dances, singing, banging drums, all of this nonsense is proof that the democratic party is dead right now. they don't have a leader and if you think the american people are the leader of the democratic party, the american people have said based upon the election of republicans to the house, the senate and the oval, they are basically saying we don't buy anything you're saying. so we're not interested in what you're saying. all of this nonsense with these women jumping up and down -- by the way, they are all congresswomen. they represent you in the people's house. there nonsense that they are engaging in is about the fact that they have no strategy. they have no policy. they are more interested in memes and the internet than they are in policy. this whole thing about fighting. you want to fight? go to the border and fight. fight for the american people. you want to succeed as a democrat? maybe what you need to do is

recognize that the american people support donald trump. when it comes to the illegals and when it comes the issue of men and women sports. may be, maybe you can find some common ground and if u.s. democrats find common ground with a guy that the american people support -- 79% of whom love president trump's speech, maybe you too can be successful. maybe you can convince americans who believe that you are here to represent the american people. nobody believes that crew is interested in us. they are interested in power, they are interested in ideology. their failure to energize the american people is not going to be overcome by this nonsense of their incompetence. by the end i think we should overcome and they should

overcome what this hate is there so much a part of. >> jesse: really great topic in a really great contributions. and i think you guys are all on top of your game. we are going to give you something, just wait. ahead, doge is really screwed now, elmo and big bird are marching against musk you bet brother. stay prayed up. yeah, you know it. hey, father. you joining lent again this year? of course. alright father. sister. you joining us again on the app this year, right? i am mark. i love it. hey, chris. yo. what's up? mark? you want to join us on hallow this year? join you on hallow? i was hoping. i was hoping you'd ask. yes. stay prayed up. can i say that?

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>> public media. >> is the best! >> save npr! >> safe pbs! >> greg: i think you can see doug burgum in there on the right. democrats are enlisting elmo into big bird as they continue to wage war on a doge staging a massive protest, literally three people this morning in front of npr -- npr stands for not pooping regularly which is why scott simon always sounds constipated to. this comes as president trump convenes his cabinet to talk shop on the cost-cutting crew that saved the taxpayers $105 billion and counting. elon also into intendants, here's what 47 said about the meeting. >> i want to cabinet members keep good people. i don't want to see a big cut were a lot of good people are cut. i want to cabinet members to keep the good people and the cap that members go first and if they can cut it's better and if

they don't cut then elon will do the cutting. >> greg: a columbia professor planes cutting waste is racist because a coconut lady lost. >> it's impact on government but it's also an attack on this government. what i mean by that is as an attack on this government that used to be headed by a black man. is an attack on this government that almost elected a black woman to the highest office in the land. it's attack on a government that has been more welcoming and more supportive of people who have come to this country in search for a better life. >> greg: all right, harold. this is the point i was making. as long as you have a contingent in your party that says everything is racist, you can't build your brand unless you split it off and you have an everything is racist party and the democrat party because he seems to forget you had a white president, his name was joe biden. senile but white!

>> harold: i don't think the cuts are racist -- he's a friend, i don't think -- i don't think he's right about that. i do think and i've set on this show there are no advocates for waste and fraud and abuse. if there are i don't consider them democrats, i consider them people who enjoy waste, fraud, and abuse, their ideas should not be the ones that ruled the day. having said that you can also be critical of the way the administration is going about some of these things, but when you pull as dana and the judge have said routinely around the table, people err on the side of the cutters or the doge effort than they do on the democrats saying don't do it. if the president at mr. muscat believe usaid -- i read a story today that the department of education was going to be -- president trump decided not to do that. i do think president trump does an executive order out means he

bans or dismantles the department of education, i think you will see a different kind of response. i'm four doge -- i don't like the cuts, here is a novel idea. come up with your own. if you believe we should reform government like bill clinton and al gore believe like barack obama did, then come up with your own ideas as opposed to just try to dismantle the entire idea or the poo pooing the entire idea. bit like me when i use that word. >> greg: poo pooing? >> harold: neither does jesse. >> jesse: strict parent. >> greg: writer joshua lasik has a bad review by a bad person is a good review. whenever you hear this criticism of doge it means it's good to. >> dana: is like a double negative. in the five stages of democratic outrage everything we are mad

about is racist usually comes about later. but it's here now. this is one thing i would say about that. i wasn't planning to bring up education but i'm glad harold did. we have a record low test scores for america's children and no democrats talking about it, no one's talking about it. are they saying we should have more money at the department of education? what are the outcomes you are getting for that? my former boss -- especially at the inner city school, not rural school as well as a soft bigotry of low expectations. you have a department of education that is really catering to a lot of different things that might not necessarily need to exist because people say they like about the schools, the pre-k program, that's not done through the department of education, that's at health and human services department. you care about school lunches, what about school breakfast? great, called brooke rollins she set the usda. you care about military schools?

pete hegseth is now in charge of that. student loans -- why couldn't that be done at the treasury department? it's the bureaucracy and all these administrators and all the dei stuff that was happening that was not getting you to the result you needed to get so that you could actually overcome. >> greg: you humiliated harold over there. >> harold: i rarely ever disagree with dana. i think we have to have a department of the education it's ten times the size we have now. we centralize the things we value the most. local governments have screwed up education more so than the federal government. they spend more money on it, they have more responsibility -- i'm not saying they're bad people. >> dana: today i interviewed dr. -- from louisiana. the only state to improve in reading in the last four years was louisiana.

>> harold: they were -- >> dana: they said we're going back to basics, we are doing phonics, flash cards for math. that's not the department of education i asked him are you okay if it goes away, he says give me the money i could do better. >> harold: if something works scale it if something doesn't work scrap it. i think the federal government should have a bigger role, our schools suck. the responsibilities of the local level. >> jeanine: federal bureaucracy but the local levels fall fault? >> harold: look at the amount of money and look at the responsibility and education. we can do that in the commercial break then you could beat me up all you want. >> dana: i see what you're saying. >> harold: i didn't mean to hijack your thing but since we got going on at. >> greg: that's all right i like the fire in your eyes. >> dana: me too. >> greg: continue bashing harold for me. >> jeanine: i think the problem with this whole thing -- jimmy carter i think i've said

this before created the department of education with an executive order. so donald trump taking it out with an executive order i think is very appropriate. i honestly believe that what happened especially during covid and the loss of learning that our kids have suffered and will never make up for it in the next generation while kids in other countries are doing -- studying quantum physics in china and russia is a result of the federalization of education. if it were left to the locals, that would not have happened because i'm telling you, schools in north carolina, schools in alabama, they wouldn't have been closed for this let's get a metric where our kids are protected but that's not the issue. the point i want to make on this segment is this. 2020, george floyd, all the super woke stuff gave these people like this columbia professor and imagine what he's telling your kids that you're paying $90,000 a year for if he tells you that doge is racist

because obama was a black president, i haven't made the connection yet. they think they beat trump because trump was a racist. the mistake they made was believing that racism was going to take them through the next four years. they acted in 2024 like it was still a racist country when it's not. people didn't believe donald trump was a racist. they doubled down with kamala as a candidate thinking this racism claim this professor from columbia who may be a friend of yours is making no sense on is going to be the strength the democratic party. it's over, all of this nonsense, it's over. >> greg: we have completely skirted over the main topic of this story. we saw bernie with big bird but not with bert. as we know ernie and bert have been together in a monogamous relationship for quite some time. as of the cookie monster?

>> jesse: that's elmo and that's count dracula. >> jesse: is this a throuple. >> jesse: this is a rocky "sesame street." this is a furry menage a trois. i just want to see harold and dana fight. >> harold: it will never happen. >> greg: it was like an episode of moonlighting, will they or won't they? >> harold: oh, my god, we need a commercial break. >> greg: that is a reference only our audience gets, 80s -- i mean 1980s. coming up, griese stands out among the dams for knowing what a woman is

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♪ ♪ >> jeanine: well, well, well, it looks like someone is thirsty for a presidential run. california governor gavin newsom is breaking with the left wing lunatics in his party making common sense on men playing in women's sports while chatting with charlie kirk on his new podcast. >> you right now should come out and be like you know what? the young man who's about to win the state championship in the long jump in female sports, that shouldn't happen. u.s. the governor should step up and say no. >> i appreciate -- >> would you do something like that? >> i think it's an issue of fairness i completely agree with you on that, it's easy to call out the unfairness on that. >> jeanine: what is behind gavin newsom's sudden shift on his opinion regarding men and women's sports? >> jesse: it has nothing to do with running for president. i went to school with this kid

who was a huge unlv fan, wore a hat every single day remember running rebels? 1991 undefeated. they get to the championship game -- larry johnson. and the duke beats them. next day the kid comes in with the duke hat. it was so blatantly obvious this guy is a front runner and you get a little whiff of that from gavin newsom. he's obviously trying to pivot here but it doesn't have to be this blatant. but i have to say something. i like him. i don't want to like him, i actually hate that i like him but i met him. i should have met him! [laughter] when i met him he was funny. i made fun of them when he went to china and he was running over all those chinese kids of the basketball court and he was chasing after the cranes in that beijing bobsled like a goofy kid and i mocked him and he laughed and i was like this guy is kind of normal. >> greg: he said you should be fired, remember that? did he laughed about that one too?

>> i forgot about that. >> jesse: he blamed me for nancy pelosi's husband getting his head knocked in. i take everything back! >> jeanine: dana, what is the evidence for his change in stance? >> dana: i think he obviously is going to try to change but he is a reptile. he is constantly a chameleon -- what do you want me to be this week? but he has that kamala harris problem. all of his positions are well-known. this is a guy who attacked people who were trying to protect women in sports, he opened it civil rights investigations into school boards and districts that passed parental notification laws preventing schools from hiding info from their own kids. maybe he will disavow that but i'm going to go on the record and say "i do" not believe for as nice a guy as he might be and jesse might really like him i never had a chance to meet him i'm sure we would get along great i just do not think he

will be the nominee for the democrats in 2028. >> jeanine: what message does this send to the voters about reliability and stability of a progressive candidate clearly for president, he's not running in california again. if he can change a key policy overnight. how does that make a solid candidate for president? >> harold: i differ a little bit with you. i think the test of leadership -- by the way when you had the unlv had on were i come from we call that a momentum trader. i like the fact you said when he was going to do this you thought it would be good to. having charlie kirk on, having the conversation back to your question, leadership is able to say i was wrong. >> jeanine: did he say he was wrong? did he give a reason? no. >> harold: you're leading the witness let me finish my answer. real leadership says i was wrong

about something and here's why. and they get the answer. what i was try to say about education is any issue, if something is working and you didn't agree with it -- >> jeanine: i would talk about education or gavin newsom? >> harold: when he talked about transgender athletes he said he would not which is switching positions for him. if are able to say after think about it after looking at the evidence after watching it practically happen i changed my mind, i think that's what people want more in politics. we have a president who is your friend and i consider a friend who has changed his mind over the last 20 years -- he believes in the borders of the country believes he's a better person and politician for it. if gavin newsom comes around an issue i agree with you know what i say? welcome to the crowd. >> jeanine: your friend dana perino has said there is no evidence to support the evolution or the change. greg, give us your opinion. >> here's the deal, i think gavin newsom realizes the party

is in trouble and he realizes that it's cleaving. you have the bill maher democrats in the joy reid democrats, they can no longer coexist. which is why he made this podcast play and it feels like a club. he's trying to keep the men from completely disowning the party. he can't just say i'm different he's got to show his evolution on the podcast. he's bringing in all these conservatives to show he's not like a three i do tend freak that you normally would assume is a democrat. about his trans shift, part of me says better late than never like what harold is saying, don't argue with someone who is agreeing with you. he's finally agreeing except he's still lying. he said trends are a group prone to suicide because people don't accept them, there is absently no data on that. it's a dangerous fact.

of the data shows dramatic increases in depression post surgery, why is that not surprising? i imagine all the attention you get in it turns out you regret it. all of that attention goes away. you become deeply, deeply depressed, ask a detransition or. what's crazy about this and what's so wrong about what he said that is remember the story you were told. doctors pressuring parents into surgery for their kids by asking this one question -- would you rather have a dead son or living daughter? that was a criminal question, criminal live. every doctor who asked that question should be disbarred and perhaps charged with something. that's the same lie that gavin is pushing. the kids are really depressed -- no they are not! you aft up their heads with this delusion.

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♪ ♪ >> anti-israel protesters spewing fire and hateful slogans after setting up a liberation zone in new york city, chanting and blocking the doors for four hours. they hung up this puppet of the college's president and demanded the school stop punishing protesters. president trump ready to take action saying earlier this week all federal funding will stop

for any college, school, or university that allows illegal protest. agitators will be imprisoned or permanently sent back to the country from which they came. i interviewed a young woman at barnard college, the only college she ever wanted to go to and she can't study. she can't get to class. i said are you plana transfer? she said i don't want to have to. i'm hoping these arrests will have an impact. >> jeanine: i hope the arrests will be prosecuted which is a problem in manhattan with these progressive das, george soros funded d.a. -- he calls himself a d.a. there are two things going on here. you got these students, these individuals who were arrested are not from barnard college. they are part of this group that's being organized to create chaos on college campuses and

have nothing to do with the colleges. that's why president trump has said they can be charged with material support for terrorism laws. if hamas is designated a foreign terrorist organization, anyone who is giving them material support which is defined as fund-raising advocating for or coordinated can be deemed inadmissible or removed if they were students. visa revocation is automatic under the state department to revoke the visa of foreign students. if they are for and you throw them out of the country. if they are from this country they've got to be prosecuted by the prosecutor and if the school is allowing us than they are going to lose federal funding. this is going to be over/under the trump administration. >> dana: strata deportation, take them to jfk and to see you later? >> harold: if its constitutional.

>> jesse: i would say donald trump is the isaac newton of politics. every action has a reaction, laws of motion, he is introduced that. sanctuary cities are you good to play ball or are we going to take your money? nato are you going to pay your dues are we not going to protect you -- consequences, no one else has done that. he's the only president who understands the full scope and power of the government that he's using it to america's advantage. you get to these people out if they do stuff against jews -- if they harm any american, knock on the dorm room door, get them o out. >> greg: i'm thinking of donald trump is the isaac newton of politics, then is joe biden the stephen hawking of politics because they're both dead.

i'm torn about this college story. i feel like the colleges deserve this, they built this environment. they have encouraged this for years and now they've got to deal with that, it's like it's their problem. in terms of the foreign students, send them back immediately -- i agree. then slap a terror tariff on their parents. if they want to come back they have to pay extra -- 's before the is they can pay it. >> jesse: paid on the debt with it. >> how much do you want to bet they were funded by george soros and usaid? >> one of those people bought a gold card would you let them and then? >> dana: that will be our next debate!

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♪ ♪ >> harold: swifties are willing to declare chapter 11 just the seat taylor. some music fans are ready to go into debt to see their favorite artists live. 86% admitted to overspending on life events and blaming fomo,

that is fear of missing out. is there a concert you would consider going in debt to see? >> dana: no, i think taylor swift should tell all of her fans never to do this. these are people who say they don't want to come into the office but they want to go to a concert and they want to get promoted? i think she should do them all a favor and say don't go into debt to see me just watch it on youtube. >> harold: you have shows this is something people should consider doing? >> greg: now i feel really bad. there's a problem with these festivals, they are too complicated to. maybe you want to see -- i don't know, the misfits. but you've got to sit through green day. or you want to see the melvin's but you got to sit through mic --you want to talk about the

hypocrisy of the modern progressive kid. you should see the options as they rise in price, there is no way your girlfriend is going to be happy with general admission if there is a vip private camper with a little umbrella in a bottle. it's a crazy griff. >> harold: what are your thoughts on this? a >> jesse: you can be levelheaded like dana or you can go to a concert and have the time of your life. >> greg: drop some e? a >> jesse: drop something, those are memories. when you look back at your life you remember the concerts. >> greg: go into a k hole. >> jesse: go into debt. >> jeanine: i've never gone into debt to see a concert i always made the guy pay for the concerts. something about generation z -- they are financially illiterate. talked about them before. they don't care about their

credit because they know they're never going to buy house. when my parents raised me, they said you can want something but the question is do you need something? generation z thinks every want is a need and that's dumb. >> dana: like she was? >> jeanine: touche. >> harold: thank god for their parents and grandparents know a lot about debt. one more thing is up next.

>> jesse: time now for "one mor" judge? >> judge jeanine: oak toddler calls 911 with an emergency. do not worry this story is a happy ending. >> 911, emergency. >> an emergency? >> emergency doughnut. >> judge jeanine: the next day the police department shows up with a surprise a box of dunkin'

doughnuts to his home. called 911 emergency, doughnuts. >> dana: he learned nothing. >> greg: by showing this we told a bunch of kids go for it. >> greg: sound like kamala harris though? >> judge jeanine: no. >> greg: tonight, what a show jamie lissow heather, jim florentine and kennedy that's tonight. let's do this. in your face, harold. we haven't done this in a wild. a update on favorite hairless frenchie there he is. his name is a little health problems. >> judge jeanine: which one is harold? >> dana: in the jacket? >> judge jeanine: hermez. >> greg: he does look like you. a strong forehead and chiseled jaw that s sultry.

>> jesse: go to the lapd. put on this clinic. perfectly executed, you know how much i love pit maneuvers. boom. no civilians injured. right to the side of the road pia got him good. tonight "jesse watters primetime," johnny down in d.c. after the state of the union talked to some of the democrats. let's see it how is it going? johnny from fox news. >> i have a hearing. >> why do you want men in women's sports? >> therefore, i need to go alo ha. >> why do you want men in women's sports, senator? >> greg: is he a public servant. >> crazy mazie. >> johnny? >> i was going to show you, this go x. look at daniel turner ptf did, a video as a farmer how much he loved to buy things in america and his entire day almost ♪ >> shannon: