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funding in. fox on top of the anti-israel protests across new york college campuses once again. we'll ask a jewish student if she feels safe on campus. and if she's pleased with the president's response. >> then the u.s. sent talks with ukraine next week, as president trump threatens new sanctions on russia. on both sides ready to come to an agreement. molly: more than one week after actor gene hackman and his wife betsy found dead in their santa fe home investigators revealing the causes of death and the timeline of their final days. >> and sanctuary city showdown on capitol hill, house oversight committee james komen on heated hearing with democratic mayors this week. welcome everybody to fox news live i'm jonathon hunt hi anita. >> hi anita. >> i'm anita vogel we begin now with cb cotton outside of

columbia, university in new york city with the trump administration's action on those anti-israel protests. hi cb. reporter: hi anita well the ongoing student protest are now hitting the universities bank account we watched this play out this week so the nypd had to make multiple arrests at barr barrnard college and now columbia becomes the first to lose federal funding to the tune of 400 m dollars. columbia says it we take columbia legal obligation seriously and understand how serious this announcement is and are committed to combating anti-semitism and ensuring safety and well being of our students faculty and staff. students say these are just some of the flyers handed out on campus this week which you can see publicized support for the

august attack and state department announcing this week that it revoked visa of a student who participated in these sorts of protests. a jewish graduate of bernard college believes trump administration will end ongoing demonstrations which has been popping up since last spring at height of the student pro-palestinian movement we saw a takeover of hamilton hall on columbia's campus. >> they seem to be driven by money. so i'm incredibly optimistic that president trump will finally be holding them accountable in that regard. we all need to stand strong with our moral, western value based ideology against this radical fundamental islamic terrorism. >> the aclu is firing back at the federal cuts saying they represented escalation by the trump administration to, quote, cohearse colleges and

universities and to censoring students 'speech and advocacy that isn't maga approved end quote. joint federal task force, though, to combat anti-semitism say federal cuts are only just beginning. anita. anita: quite a debate and thank you for that. later this morning i'll be speaking with a current jewish student from columbia university. how she's reacting to these protests and the latest move from president trump. right now wall street journal editorial board member and fox news contributor bill joins us for more on this. bilk -- bill great to see you this is a huge cut there $400 million andn though ave $15 billion endowment. how much does this really hurt? >> well, i think the first thing i say there's two words that

describe what the trump administration is doing. about time. 400 million is a huge amount to go to columbia i don't think it can be justified without these protest but what the american people watch, these are not just protest. these are not students making a statement. they're interfering with jewish students intm dating them and preventing them from attending classes that they paid for and so forth. it's gone on too many campuses there's a lawsuit out at ucla for the universities decision to help the protesters during their protest. so i think the american people are fed up, the most entitled campuses in this country are also the most uncivilized. the school university used to leak to say you know, we can govern ourself and be a model for america. it is a disaster now.

anita: you know you mention the idea that some people call this free speech. in fact, the university has called it that. do you think they still think that? or do you think they understand that jewish students truly felt intimidated and in some cases were you know having trouble getting to their classes? >> judging by the president of columbia statement they take their legal obligations seriously. what it means is he take ation threat of money being cut off very seriously. i think if you cut off someone like columbia, you might -- discover other campuses binds being grown, just to preserve their funding. anita: and quickly you know there are some students who are involved in pro-palestinian protest who are suing the school because they feel they were treated wrongly. what are your thoughts on that? >> just incredible. the idea that the victimizers become the victims.

they've been so aggressive so arrogant about columbia and not all protesters are students and i think the aim is to disrupt and intimidate that makes difference if columbia if they were politely protesting and as they maybe we wouldn't be talking about this. it is because they're harassing students thing are jewish denying them their rightings. it is unfolding at many campuses -- if the idea that would happen at columbia, the most jewish city in america in new york -- is just astounding to me that a jew can't feel safe going to class at columbia that's incredible. anita: same across the coast ucla sitting in a heavily jewish neighborhood and many barred from going to school last year so it is not isolated to columbia but columbia certainly is one of those very high profile schools. do you think that shine has come

off of this elite university a little bit because of this whole situation? >> i think so. kind of come off most of the university we see how they are in face of these arguments. they don't seem to feel they have a moral high ground and let the protest get out of hand -- it is uncivilized. which is the opposite of what a university should be. anita: yeah. it really when you look at those pictures, i mean, we're showings them on the screen it really did appear to be uncivilized and the idea that jewish student didn't feel safe on that campus. it is mind boggling. i want to switch gears now if i can -- and ask you about another education topic. president trump reportedly preparing an executive order to dismantle the department of education. i guess he does need congressional approval for that. but i want to you listen to education secretary on this linda mcman and some democrats

reacting to her. take a listen. >> we would like to do this right. we would like to make sure that representing plan that i think our senators could get onboard with and our congress could get onboard with that would have a better functioning department of education. but certainly does require congressional action. >> shuttering department of education goes against the bipartisan laws we have passed, established and funded. >> this would be if it happens one of the most destructive and devastating steps that donald trump has ever taken. anita: okay so bill what are your thoughtings on that and that the -- decision making process would be taken out of washington and put into the hands of local governments across the country? >> yeah. i hope they don't stop at education. there's many other departments that should go too. they probably need congressional approval, look, the education department was set up as a favored teachers unions.

if you took a graph and plotted education department funding, versus american kids test scores i think they would go in opposite directions. i don't know if anyone would notice except for employees and the people getting that money. so i would welcome it. >> yeah we'll see what happens there. it is sure to be a fiery week on capitol hill. with that decision coming down, bill mcgurn great to see you. >> thank you so much. anita: jonathon. >> up next president trump calling on russia and ukraine to come to the negotiating table for a peace deal. but are both sides ready to get it done? and later, it's not just republicans slamming closed at president trump's joint address. how those disruption also now dividing democrats. (tom) i'd like to take a moment to address my fellow veterans because i know so many

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>> prumple says boats russia and ukraine want to settle the war ahead of planned attacks between u.s. and ukrainian officials in saudi arabia next week. so is a peace deal in sight? retired air force rob stahlding

with me it is taking longer than president trump told us it would. i think he said he would solve this war on day one. but is he moving in the right direction in terms of getting the parties one, to the table and getting outlines of a deal in place? >> i think he is. first of all, i mean, he recognizes that we're in a three-front kald cold war and biggest challenge that we face for the world is nuclear weapons so we understands at the most he has to mac sure that that doesn't happen. and so, at the second thing he's going to have to do is prey on zelenskyy and putin not that they have a complete victory or a complete loss as they have to worry about on each side how much territory they stand to further lose, and so he had to

actually get them to compete what he's got to be worried about, though, right now -- is that putin is trying to exploit this advantage to get more territory before they sign a cease-fire. >> and it does look on the face of it at least general, that the way a deal will eventually shape up will give russia some of the territory that it illegally invaded. is that just a reality? the world and ukrainians in particular have to accept that there is a reward for that sort of aggressive military action? >> i don't know if i would call it a reward but that's a reality look at the korean war we're still there. that is not a peace. it is a cease-fire, that has stood many, many decades that's what the president is trying to get to here pep and i think by letting zelenskyy think that he has a path to total victory when in reality with russia having so many nuclear weapons there's no way to get there for him, i

think that was the fault of the west. you know, we almost, you know, created this sense in zelenskyy to ask for whatever he wanted soening the president put anymore his place and now worried about putin and taking it too far so he has to prey on fears of putin to lose more territory than he's gained the way that's going to happen is by putting pressure there in ukraine. so he's probably going to have to release some weapons to ukraine. to allow them to push back a little bit. but then he's going to have to put pressure hard on both sides to get to cease-fire. >> do you think there was a hope within the biden administration or a belief perhaps and among some european countries that this war might eventually lead to the fall of putin? but president trump has come in with a hard reality and acceptance that putin isn't

going anywhere therefore you have to do a deal? smg right. again look at korean, vietnam, we had the reality of nuclear war kind of hanging in the balance. we still have that -- in unfortunately within the washington, d.c. national establishment they've lost supply. it is the president that's bringing sanity back to the -- back to the front of the bargaining table it is not the fall of ukraine or the total victory of russia we have to worry about. it is nuclear war created because we have this false sense that ukraine can win all of the territory back and not potentially create a new clear war in the process. >> and general this does seem to be the beginning of a historic shift in terms of europe realizing that europe has to be more responsible for its defense. take on more of the burden than just depending on the united states to have its back always.

do you see this as a historic shift? >> well, no. because they can't come together no matter what, it's still not a federal republic like the united states. and so all of these countries have their own individual interests, i mean, look you saw zelenskyy go to talk to and say we need the u.s. that is a reality, and so you know, the united states becomes this essential player in really figuring out the cease-fire in ukraine. but it really comes from the fears of both zelenskyy and putin and more they stoned lose by not coming to an interim agreement that gets the word in. though you can't forget this is a three-front cold war. it is taiwan. it is israel and it is ukraine right now -- but you know, we're trying to get to cease-fire in ukraine. but other things will pop off over time. j >> yeah it is an extraordinary

complicated and complex world in which we live thank you for guiding us through it. general rob spaulding thank you. >> revealing to our maria bartiromo that president trump sent a letter to iran leader to negotiate a new nuclear deal madeleine rivera is in washington with the details on that. good morning. >> that's right it is a pivot for president trump who in 2018 withdrew from the iran nuclear deal at the time the president said it did not do enough to deal with iran missile program. now trump is facing critical point as iran advances its nuclear program. here's a clip of the president on mornings with maria bartiromo. >> time is coming up. something is going to happen one way or the other. i hope that iran and i've written him a letter. saying i hope you're going to negotiate. because --

if we have to go in militarily it is going to be a terrible thing for them. >> this morning iran supreme leader ayatollah says iran won't be accepting the demands just last month rejecting prospect of holding talks with the trump administration his comment came days after president trump restored its campaign of maximum pressure in iran to stop it from developing a nuclear weapon. iran's foreign minister maintains they won't negotiate as long as those severe sanctions aren't in place. still some republicans are hopeful that iran and the u.s. can eventually strike an agreement. >> we would love to have a deal with iran that is air title not like barack obama's bill but say what libya did in 2003 when it threw open doors from cold turned over nuclear weapons of mass destruction and want to the get right to the united states. >> a report from the united nations nuclear watch dog agency last month says iran sped up enriched uranium in the last

three months alone a portion of the stockpile is a sure step from the 90% often used to mac a nuclear device. anita. anita: all right m.a.d.d. written madeleine rivera live for us in washington for us. you can watch that full interview with president trump and maria bartiromo tomorrow at 10 a.m. eastern on "sunday morning futures." don't want to miss that. coming up, investigators revealing the causes of death for actor gene hackman and his wife those details are next, and later a newark new jersey police officer shot and killed in the line of duty just last night. another one injured. the latest on his condition and the startling age of the suspect coming up. check in time is 3:00 it's 2:55. i know. is this what he's doing now? as your host, i have some rules. first, no showers longer than 5 minutes. this isn't a spa. no games. no fun.

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>> the cause of death for ms. betsy hackman age 65 years is hantavirus pull monothat are syndrome manner of death is

natural. the cause of death for mr. gene hackman age 95 years is hypertensive cardiovascular disease with alzheimer's disease as a contributor factor. >> we have some answers now in the tragic and mysterious death of actor gene hackman and death of his wife betsy in new mexico investigators as you heard there revealing the causes. forensic analyst kimberly on how they came to these conclusions. great to have you here -- and let's take them in the chronological order it appears that gene hackman's wife betsy died about a week before hackman himself died and hantavirus as i understand it that is a disease passed on by mice or other

rodents, correct? j correct. and in the united states it's manely found in deer mice. jonathan: how does that present themselveses and what will they have found to led to that conclusion? >> one of the most telling factors that they found during autopsy would be very monoto find copious amounts of fluid in the lungs. and also there could be other signs of renal failure so they look at every organ as they remove it during the autopsy. jonathan: and then gene hackman himself died -- they were able to -- as i gather it from his pacemaker he died about a week later, doctor, and heart issues were the cause of that? >> yes.

my understanding is that he did have some serious medical conditions pertaining to his heart. and in which the pacemaker stopped the -- what they call the last event on around february 17th or february 18th. there is some differing reports on that. and so yes. basically his heart failed. jonathan: it's extraordinary to think doctor he may have been alone in that house with the body of his wife for seven days if now i know your expertise is forensics but just as a human that is an awful thing to think about. >> yeah. it's absolutely devastating and heartbreaking in the fact that, you know, alzheimer's it sounds like according to the chief medical examiner -- that he did have advance stages

of alzheimer's. and i believe i've actually seen it personally with some of my family members be -- it's very, very difficult for them to recall and so i think unfortunately the cognitive decline due to alzheimer's he wasn't able to put two things together that his wife was, you know, deceased. jonathan: and the medical examiner there in santa fe addressed that question. let's listen to her briefly now. >> okay. >> question was he aware that ms. hackman had died i think that question is difficult to answer. but i can tell you that he was in an advanced state of alzheimer's and it's quite possible that he was not aware that she was deceased. jonathan: now in terms of the forensics kimberly, how do you -- how do you find out that it was a particular severity of

alzheimer's? what are telltale signs there? >> unfortunately i'm sorry that is out of my expertise that is more of a medical examiner or doctor would be able to answer that. but they do during autopsy, they will examine the brain and they can look for any type of -- it is not trauma. but any type of injury to that or damage to the different areas of the brain. jonathan: kimberly forensic analyst thank you so much for sharing your expertise with us. thank you kimberly. >> thank you for having me. anita: up next justice department digging into allegations of anti-semitism across college campuses. the target of the doj's latest investigation. and later democratic mayors in the hot seat over their sanctuary city policies. we'll ask house oversight committee chairman james comer if he got the answers he was

looking for.

>> welcome back, the justice department opens an investigation into the university of california system. over anti-semitism allegations, it is just one of the trurp administration latest responses to anti-israel protest that have been erupting across college campuses since the start of the israel-hamas war. justice department chief of staff and acting associate attorney general chad mizel joins me with more on this investigation. chad thank you so much for coming in on a saturday really appreciate it. right off the top. i want to let our viewers know when we talk about the university of california system, we are talking about the most elite public schools in the state of california. ucla, uc berkeley, uc san diego, uc santa barbara ten of them in all they're certainly the crown

jewel of public education in california. tell us about this investigation. >> that's right anita first off thank you so much for having me and i have to thank president trump and his amazing attorney general pam bondi my friend, my boss for the honor of every single day being able to fight on behalf of the american people. and one of the key area where is we're fighting right now -- is to combat anti-semitism across our college campuses. as you said the uc system is one of the largest systems in the country. over a quarter million faculty and staff nearly 300,000 students are attending the uc system elite institutions berkeley and ucla. what they've done there is completely unacceptable anita they stuck their head in the sand. they refuse to act whenever they -- acting was required and that circumstance. put simply, they were being weak and that weakens is a choice. an now they're going to have to answer for that choice. we're going to come to do an investigation into whether there was a pattern or practice of

discrimination against jewish and israeli individuals, and if we find that we're goapg take strong action. >> well i know you'll be looking for evidence and when it comes to ucla why don't we put that video up again there's plenty of video of jewish students -- being barred by these protesters from going to class -- one student in particular his name was eli -- he made tons of videos and then went viral all over the internet of how he could not attend class, at ucla. so when you say you're looking for violations of title seven what is it that you're looking for exactly? >> with respect to title seven what we're focused on is our faculty an staff. and did the university create a hostile work environment an environment where jewish professors israeli professors were not welcomed. so part of the eaved we're going to be looking at is some of the protest that happened. there's a high profile one that

dean of the law school over at berkeley -- protesters went to his house they refused to leave whenever speakers were coming we have faculty saying outrageous things pro-hamas proterrorists statements. essentially creating an environment where jewish and israeli faculty members were not welcome that's the kind of evidence we need to look for as apartment of our title seven investigation. j quickly if you find what you're looking for what are ramifications could ucla see what happened to columbia happened to them in the stripping of funds or what else? >> absolutely. anita, that is the beauty of the cabinet that donald trump has built. we're all working together, i know that attorney general bondi is speaking daily with her counterparts at the state department at the department of education, at hhs even at eeoc everybody is working together. so right now what the uc system is facing is a series of private lawsuits on behalf of

professors. there are eeoc charges they're facing. the document of justice is launching and investigation there's potential visa revocation issues from the university and billions of funding from the department of education, department of health and human services, gsa, doj it spans the gamut it is one small piece of the pie all under the leadership of president trump. to attack this problem and make america safe again. >> so certainly a lot on the table for these uc schools we're going to be following this story for sure. i do want to sandwich gears quickly, though, and ask you about the supreme court decision this week. the supreme court backed an order forcing the administration to pay two billion dollars in frozen foreign aid money. what is the justice department's reaction to that? this is surprising ruling to some. >> anita -- yeah. it was surprising. listen we're certainly

disappointed i would encourage people to read justice alito's desent in that case never seen a strong desent or a vision take down of a district court judge that's exactly what was appropriate here. we have an activist judge and ddc, who is working against the administration and forcing us to put out potentially billions of dollars that are not going to be recoverable because these organizations are going to take them and run that's exactly what elon musk and president trump have uncovered. and that is the exact type of fraud waste and abuse that weir going to work and fight against so you haven't heard the story we're not done here and we're going to keep fighting. anita: we're watching that story as well one more before i let you go attorney general pam don bee says fbi turned over more evidence in the jeffrey epstein case and she plans to release more of those files soon. so what can we expect to see? >> that's right. the fbi did meet the --

did meet the deadline there. whaing you're going to see is a lot of what you've seen before in the sense of you're gong to see transparency. this is an administration attorney general bondi is committed to transparency. we not gone through all of the documents yet so we don't exactly know what we're going to find but whatever we find once we've redacted victim names that is something that attorney general said on this network that she's going to turn over. anita: we all heard that so we're waiting to see that. and we'll see what happens there. all right chad mizelle thank you so much for joining us today really appreciate your insight on this. >> absolutely. thanks anita. anita: you got it jonathon. jonathan: coming up why doge and elon musk may have to trade in that chain saw for a scalpel in future cuts and democratic hecklers that president trump's speech to congress are facing backlash and it's not just from republicans. ♪[applause]

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anita: welcome back president trump covenning approach to doge cuts this week ordering cabinet secretaries to play a bigger role in personnel decisions and pushing for them to use a scalp and daniel thanks for coming in today so i have to ask you does this stem from this recent cabinet meeting where we heard there was a little bit of a dust up or miltedly heated exchange between elon musk and marco rubio and sean duffy over how many people to fire and who should do it?

>> and also the v.a. secretary doug collins who said hey, we want to keep good veterans. we don't want to just lay off lots of people who are new to their careers at the v.a. and i think the message that these cabinet members were sending to musk and trump is they want to be in control of their own agencies. and trump is basically gave into that, that these doge teams are kind of getting their wings clipped a little bit. and trump does not like the negative media coverage of hey park rangers, you know getting cut, the people who are served our country abroad and then served at the v.a. or other capacities also getting laid off. so i think he's responding to that as well as criticism from republicans too. >> there was talk of cutting 15% of the work force 80,000 people -- i mean, do you expect now that will not happen or do you expect some of those people if they

were fired or laid off would get their jobs back? >> well they brought back a lot of people and different sec stores. so in the national nuclear security administration they brought back people who were critical there. there's been talk of, you know, bringing back people who play mission critical roles, who that doge people did not realize that as much like sean duffy in that meeting he was talking about he has plan crashes on his hands including first commercial plane crash in america in 20 years. and now you're telling me to cut air traffic controllers because they're all dei hires. so i think that these cabinet members, they didn't work their entire years their careers to get there. and then just be told by a 25-year-old elon musk hey, this is how we should run your agency because those people have not been senate confirmed, and they're not part of the cabinet so i think -- these cabinet members are

getting the spine to say hey this is not a sustainable work arrangement i need to be in charge of my own agency and trump is the person who gave me that trust. not all of doge taking over. >> and it did seem that president trump backed that and did say the cabinet members would be making the decisions with input from elon musk is i believe what he said. but look they are saving money right if you believe -- all of these cuts -- are adding up to a large amount of money i want to put this up on the screen this is from the hill. it says let's start with the $65 billion. how much is that? is it enough to cut a $450 check for every taxpayer every year? that's actually quite a significant amount of money if you look at it that way. i mean, do you think at some point if savings keep piling up that people would get some sort of a rebate dmek where does this money go and savings go to the deficit or where? i think people want to know. >> yeah.

doesn't seem like there's appetite on capitol hill to -- sending out a rebate check. and remember, elon musk when he came in he was talking about saving $2 trillion and then it got lowered to 1 trillion now you were citing numbers under $100 billion even though it's only been a month and a change, that is still way lower than we were promised by elon musk. i think that illustratings how hard it is to cut into government spending and also most of the -- debt in the deficit is from social security and medicare and medicaid, and those are programs that trump has promised not to cut. so unlike other republican who is wanted to touch those entitlements he wants to keep preserve them. anita: all right well we'll see where it ends up it seems to be changing week by week we're waving it danielle lippman thank you for your thoughts today. >> of course. >> thank you. >> anita from capitol hill now,

where democrats are at odds over disruptions at president trump's joint address to congress. earlier this week the party's leadership reportedly confront the hecklers as several publics have publicly slammed their colleagues so democrats seemed to be struggling to find their footing under trump with us now former chief for the house judiciary committee in in democs julianne epstein great to see you. and i just imagine that i can picture you sitting at home -- watching that joint address -- >> shaking my head. jonathan: holding up their protest paddles colbert said it was like people bidding at granny's tea set at an auction it was not an impressive display of protest i think would to put it kindly julian. >> this was political theater and bad political theater jonathon. they did look like jar --

representative al green looked like a homeless guy on a subway shaking his cane. at the president, the videos of the democrats put out choose your fighter -- that was answered quite effectively by republicans, democrats looking like they're trying to out alfa republicans dpluk good luck with that. this is probably has the record for the all time worst political theater. and what it's -- what the underlying problem here is jonathon, is that the democrats are defending a very unpopular status quo positions whereas donald trump president trump is the agent of change, and democratic approval rates now, democratic congress has an approval rating of about 20% trump is over 50%. and so what you're seeing with this bad theater it is like a child a toddler at a kitchen table who is not getting enough attention they just scream loud

or and louder until they get attention. these all of these silly antics are an attempt to get attention for democrats. but it is masking underlying problem that the spbl starting to tune out democrats because they are defending intensely unpopular positions across the board. jonathan: sure and julian is strikes me part of the problem is well as you talk about the problems is leadership. it doesn't strike me that there is anybody within the democratic party right now who is taking ownership of the party and acting as a leader. >> that's exactly right jonathon. hakim jeffries and chuck schumer have completely failed as party leaders they're falling in the default position of the democrats which is grievance politics and protest politics all democrats really know how to do right now is to take these unpopular positions and express grievance like they're in a 1970 civil rights struggle. and it just looks silly it looks

out of place it is not credible. and part of the problem here jonathon is that, many if not most democrats have never really held a productive job outside the welfare of politicians salary. very few of them know much about build. just take two examples education system, the public education system in this country is failing two-thirds of our students don't have basic proficiency in math or english. do you hear democrats talk about about that? they say almost nothing about that almost nothing. and you could go down the list that things that democrats could be talking about to fix problems that the public really cares about. but most democrats have never really held private sector positions. and don't really know much about building things. and so what they've been reduced to is this sort of set of grievance politics, and these ridiculous sort of street theater antics that the public just looks at and shakes their

head and it is mostly because the democrats are bankrupt on productive ideas that they could be using to compete with donald trump take for example another example if you would -- two-thirds of this country does not have a four-year college degree. they are -- and these are the base of the trump supporters. what are democrats doing to speak to the northern college eds into the fourth phase of the industrial revolution a.i. are they talking about retraining? no. they don't talk about it. the democratic party is a party of grievance politics right now. that is being tuned out by the public. jonathan: sure. julian it is good to talk to you as a voice of reason from the left. we really appreciate you as always have a wonderful weekend my friend thank you julian. >> thank you jonathon, thank you. jonathan: coming up a final warning to hamas as u.s. aims to bring two wars to an end. can president trump get all parties to the table, plus chilling text messages from the

surviving roommates of the victims in the idaho college murders what texts are revealing about the time line when fox news live continues next.

jonathan: president trump issue what he calls a final warning to hamas, release all the hostages now, or it is over for you