having more physical activity, it's the fact that they have to wake up early for school in the dark. so if our day us was shifted and people had enough sleep, it probably would be different, but it's this juxtaposition of having so to seep later because of the activities but then being jarred awake and having that street on -- stress on the body. to our body's not set up for this. anita: well, it's happening whether we like it or not. >> fact -- exactly. anita: thank you for watching today, it's been great to be with you. jonathan: great great being with you, and i'm looking forward to those long evenings, playing more with the kids. of it's always a fun time. i'mthan hunt. "fox news live" continues right now with the great rich edson. ♪ rich: the mystery surrounding the deaths of oscar-winning actor gene hackman and his wife

have been solved. new mexico authorities detalling new information into their concern detailing new information. hackman's final harrowing week, diswhraws ahead. and a 14-year-old has been charged with murder after a newark, new jersey, police officer was killed in a shootout friday night and another remains in critical condition. the breaking details coming up. welcome to "fox news live," i'm rich edson. we begin with a fox news alert. the trump administration is pulling $400 million in federal funding from columbia university citing pro-palestinian protests saying that the university is failing to protect jewish students from if harassment. c.b. cotton is lye at columbia university -- live -- in new york city with reaction. hi, c.b. >> reporter: hi, rich. there's only silence this morning at a columbia university after that joint federal task force announced it was pulling hundreds of millions in grants and contracts from the university over allegations of

rampant anti-semitism which jewish students say they watched unfold just this week. take a look, these were the flyers abouted out on columbia university's campus sharing support for terror groups of the october 7th hamas attack. pro-palestinian protests also erupted on barnard college, an affiliate of columbia university, leading to multiple arrests. last year hundreds were arrested when protesters set up encampments at columbia and eventually took over an entire campus building. scenes sparking a wave of similar protests and clash ares across the country. this week fox was the first to learn that the state department had revoked the first visa from a foreign student linked to these sorts of demonstrations. now columbia says it's going to work with the feds to try to restore its canceled funding adding in part, quote: we take columbia's legal obligations seriously and understand how serious this announcement is and are committed to combating

anti-semitism and ensuring the safety and well-being of our students, faculty and staff. a jewish graduate of barnard college says protesters' messaging has been clear all along, and the university has not acted. >> they claim to be a hamas, they claim to be westerners advocating for the total e rad caig of western civilization in their own words, and we for some reason at a columbia, the administration is refusing to believe them and take them for what they are and is instead catering to these terror supporters and negotiating with with them instead of actually enacting any sort of consequence. and when you allow the inpates -- inmates to run the asylum, these are the consequences. >> reporter: or so the aclu is firing back at the trump administration's revoked funding saying it represents an escalation by the administration to, quote, coerce colleges and universities into censoring student speech and advocacy that isn't maga-approved, ebb quote.

the joint federal task force to combat anti-semitism says more cuts are going to be coming, this as we learn the state department has told axios it plans to use artificial intelligence to revoke more student visas looking through social media accounts, trying to find the ones that appear to support hamas. rich. rich: c.b. cotton live in new york, thank you. earth let's bring in senior fellow -- let's bring in executive director corey deangelis. corey, thanks for joining us this afternoon. i want to begin with some comments from the education secretary on all this. >> this is not about free speech. this is about violence to students, attacking faculty. they've been calling the police. they need to get rid of this. other than that, i think there's some system,ic issues. we keep seeing this over and over again, and why is that? we have radical professors on campus. they're not really vetting the students who are coming in as

much as a they should be. what money is coming in from foreign influence and all of that, i think, is playing into this. rich corey, some students at columbia reportedly said they hope this is a wake-up call for the administration. do you think it will be. >> i hope it is, but you have so many leftist professors and administrators on campus that have been so drunk on power for so long, they might not be able to reverse course. the $400 million is welcome, but it should be with just a start. they have about $5 billion the in federal commitments and grants to columbia university which raises the question of why do they need this much taxpayer money to begin with. they charge students about $70,000 a year in tuition and fees to attend columbia university. why do they need a single penny of taxpayer resources? it also raises the question of, you know, why should taxpayers be funding for leftist indoctrination that goes onthis anti-jewish sentiment on campus? why are conservatives, why are

independents forced to fund through their hard-earned taxpayer dollars leftist professors at columbia university and other colleges for that matter? rich: columbia has lost a university president over this. the university says it's expelled a couple of students, talked to the new york police department, had them break up some of the encampments last year. what else could columbia be doing here? >> yeah. well, they should not have as much of this rhetoric spewed on campus from their professors. look, these -- and these the students don't get like this out of nowhere, right? they have to -- increased enforcement on campus, but they also be having this type of critical a race theory type of ideology in the classroom that tells students to hate their country. mine, this happens at the k-12 level too. this doesn't bubble up out of nowhere. we had a survey that came out of education next finding 36 percent of u.s. high school students reported that often or almost daily their teachers were telling them that, quote,

america is a fundamentally racist nation. then you see problems like this happen on campus. it doesn't come out of nowhere. i think they need to increase enforcement, but they should also a -- trump should put his foot on the gas. this should just be a start. it's a welcome change, and it's the right thing to do and, hopefully, they listen. i just don't know if they're going to reverse course. rich: here in d.c. there's discussion reporting that the education department, the federal department of education, is going to be going away. this is what democrats had to say about that. >> it will mean students stuck with outdated technology. it will mean less access to special education for students with disabilities, and states and schools will have to pick up the cost. it will mean no enforcement of basic education standards and no data helping us know what is working and what is not working. rich: so, corey, what happens if the federal department of education goes away?

>> the democrats have trump derangement syndrome. they have no idea what they're talking about or they're just gaslighting and haven't red the -- read be the till -- the bill called the returning education to the states act. the money doesn't go away, doesn't dissolve like it does currently. it's wasted on useless bureaucrats in d.c., 4400 of them. the actual bill proposed to have block grants where the funding goes through the treasury department, back to the states depending on the amount of students that you have there. she mentioned students with special needs. all those programs would move under the department of health and human services. you think about special civil rights protections, that would move urn the county of justice. things like pell grants and student loans, that would move under the department of treasury as a well. so the radical left and the democrats are trying to use this as an opportunity to invoke fear mongering, to try to win some elections. but i don't think the american public is going to fall for the

gaslighting. if you just read the bill, you'll see that this isn't as disruptive as a policy as they're trying to make it out to be. if anything, it allows for more funding for education because you're not wasting as a mitch of it on paper -- as much of it on paper pushers in d.c. you'd have more local control for k-12 education. that's' how it should be. the u.s. department of education is unconstitutional, it's -- the word education is not in the constitution. it's a violation of the tenth amendment, so let's do what trump says and do what the american people want. they want to return education to the states. he campaigned on this issue and, guess what? if trump won the parent vote by nine points. he's showing the american people why. leadership rich river yeah. congress is debating it, we'll see what comes out the other end. thank you for joining us, much appreciated. >> thank you. rich: president trump is vowing to end what he calls the u.s. government's war on clip tole --

crypto. he made the pledge friday. danamarie mcnicholl is live in west palm beach with more on this. >> reporter: hey, rich. well, president trump mentioned that bitcoin is digital gold before coming down here to florida. he's met with those crypto leaders in the white house and also said that he is going to roll back regulations and make america the cryptocurrency superpower of the world. now, i can tell you that president trump hosted the first ever white house cryptocurrency summit. he also a hosted david sacks, the cryptocurrency czar he mentioned. he said that the government has sold $17 billion worth of bitcoin over the last decade, but that changes starting now. as the white house celebrates the shrinking federal work force, lawmakers from both parties, they're concerned about major layoffs planned at the

veteran affairs department. some are asking the v.a. secretary ore consider laying off 15% of his work force. the department is also under pressure to eliminate waste like a $56,000 contract to water just 8 plants for 5 years. doge canceled the contract and says they will water the plants free of charge. now, as for tariffs, the president granted a temporary expansion under -- until april 2nd for canadian and mention -- mexican goods under this north american trade agreement. this despite some criticism of the administration's concessions of some disturbances, quote, along the way of fair trade. and back out here live, this weekend marks the deadline for president trump's intel chiefs to release information on classified documents surrounding the assassination of jfk and martin luther king jr. rich? rich: danamarie mcnicholl down in florida, thank you. ♪

♪ >> we need to pounce on this concept of rescission like a ninja. and what does that mean? that just means you introduce a bill to take the spending cuts found by mr. musk and to have congress take the money back. rich: gop senator john kennedy imploring his colleagues to cement musk's doge cuts into law. president trump is promising a more surgical approach to his government overhaul. for more on this, let's bring in florida congresswoman laurel lee, republican. congressman, thank you very much for joining us this afternoon. i want to focus on what the president's been saying lately about doge. instead of taking a hatchet, maybe doge should start taking a scalpel to the federal government. do you think that's an act a acknowledgement that -- can acknowledge ifment that maybe it went too far? >> president trump has described exactly the right approach. we know that there are certain employees of the federal government that are doing

essential things who we want to keep. those that are providing services to the american people that we need, the ones that we want to keep on the job. i myself worked at the department of justice for many years. so we know there are some government workers who do important, good work. at the same time, we've seen extraordinary examples of waste and abuse, empty government buildings, people doing thing things that should never have been a function of the federal government. so i believe president trump has expressed exactly the right balance of those two things. let's find the ones we want to keep, let's eliminate the projects, the services, the buildings, the people who really aren't an adequate or appropriate use of the american tax a taxpayer dollar -- taxpayer dollar. i know in congress we are really enthusiastic about getting to work with doge and with president trump to do this. the senator described exactly the process by which we can do that. we can take these recommendations, bring with them back to congress and find the places that we can make the cuts

working collaboratively with the doge process. rich: there have been a lot of lawsuits on this, and they largely follow this line that, look, congress didn't explicitly create these cuts. they funded the money beforehand, they created the department of education, for example. how involved is congress going to get here? do you have to codify all of this stuff to make sure that it's bulletproof when it gets to the courts? >> so it's not necessary to codify all of it. however, i do think that is our best long-term approach, is to find the places where we need to go back, eliminate programs, in some cases potentially even eliminate entire government bureaucracies that we don't need. but this is a process. the president has tremendous executive authority to look at the way these executive branch agencies are spending money. and that also gets to the point of usaid and how important it is that we are able to look at, stop and claw back some of that money. and what we saw this week was a

district court that really exceeded the authority that it has and issued another one of these nationwide injunctions that are proliferating in our lower courts and really are an inappropriate use of what should be a very limited power. so that's something that i know we're also going to be looking at, is how we can reduce or stop that court shopping. and even the supreme court called it an aggravation of judicial power and hubris. we need to look at how we can prevent that from happening. relationship rich the court said, look, 5- 4, it did cite those $2 billion in payments have to go out to usaid suppliers that have already done the work. i think the order said it had to go out by monday in the evening. should the administration be paying that? a supreme court order. >> well, yes. at this point that's the order of the court. but what i think we can look at there is, first, you just

touched on something important which is the supreme court was recognizing that some of these payments were for work already completed. so that is a different situation than trying to identify and shut down future contracts and ongoing government expenditures. and the second thing is we really need to examine the use of the courts in going to a specific individual district court judge who then is trying to enter this sort of nationwide relief. and the temporary injunction should be exactly that, a limited, narrow thing to keep the status quo while litigation can proceed and be reviewed on the merits. and here basically instead it is requiring payments on these contracts. so there's a lot as congress and as the administration we can look at to make sure this doesn't happen. but the bottom line is this, the american people have now seen the egregious examples of waste of government money that was going to projects that should never have been funded or

supported with american taxpayer dollars. and so the opportunity is here now for us to put a stop to that going forward and make sure that these kinds of things aren't happening and that -- and if there is fraud, waste and abuse, we're finding it and we're dealing with it appropriately. rich: congresswoman laurel lee, thanks so much for joining us. >> great to see you with. >> we have identified two leakers of information here at the department of homeland security who have been telling individuals about our operations and putting law enforcement lives in jeopardy. rip rich that's department of homeland security secretary kristi noem promising to contract two accused leakers at her department after the details of planned immigration raids in california and colorado ended up in the public. the suspected leakers face up to a decade behind wars -- bars. coming up, new details into the rare do disease that killed gene hackman's wife and how the actor's advanced alzheimer's

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rich: stunning new detail released in the deaths of gene hackman and his wife. investigators reveal the actor died of heart disease roughly one week after his wife died

from a virus that rodents spread. >> reporter: the chief medical examiner said 95-year-old gene hackman died of heart disease with alzheimer's as a contributing factor. authorities say his wife, the 65-year-old, likely died a week before her husband. their bodies were found on february 26th in the rural mexico home. she died of a rare respiratory illness caused by viruses transmitted to humans through contact with infected row rodents. the illness begins with minor symptoms but symptoms can become deadly for people. >> they can transition to that pulmonary phase where they have fluid in their lungs and around their lungs. and at that point, a person can die very quickly, within 24-48 hours, roughly speaking, without medical treatment. it's not uncommon to find

someone down on the floor as part of a terminal collapse, so to speak, and that may very well have been what happened to ms. hackman. >> reporter: she was last known to be alive on february 11th. she was seen that day at a cvs and a pet store. 95-year-old gene hackman likely passed away a week later, on februaryth. >> he was in an advanced state of alzheimer's, and it's quite possible that he was not aware that she was deceased. i'm not aware of what his normal daily functioning capability was. he was in a very poor state of health. he had significant heart disease, and i think, ultimately, that is what resulted in his death. >> reporter: the couple were both found dead along with one of their three dogs. the dog's body was found in a crate in the bathroom about 10-15 feet away from araka a wa.

authorities are waiting on further testing on the dog. rich: christina coleman, thank you so much. let's bring in a board-certified pathologist.. i'm hoping you can tell us a little bit more about this pulmonary disease and is this common? is this the type of thing that happens often? >> yes, rich. hanna virus pulmonary -- hantavirus, it is a rare decision n. new mexico in 2024 there were only seven confirmed cases of hantavirus to begin with, and what happens is when the patient is exposed to excolleagueses of rodents such as rats or mice, it can take about one to up to eight weeks for the symptoms to develop, and often times patients feel usual cold, flu-like symptoms, headache, favor and that's probably that's the stage she was at when she was seen

shopping at the grocery market or at the cvs. what happens is when the disease gets to the lung or the heart, that's where rapid deterioration can occur, and patients -- there's a 40% today -- fatality rate. rich: so you have, in many ways, you've got no idea you have something this severe. it snowballs rapidly, and you can pass out. >> that's absolutely true. that's why it's essential for anyone where there's a suspension pings they've had exposure for them to be hospitalized. there's a study where thesefacients, if they were -- patients, if they got the proper vent la story support they required, 80% of them survive. so the key is being observed and monitored very, very cosily. rich: and if she was gene a hackman's primary care give, he

was in the type of condition where he would have probably needed regular medication, right? >> absolutely. the problem with advanced alzheimer's disease is these patients neea primary caretaker to take care of feeding and bathing and taking medications. he had very high blood pressure, i'm assuming that during that week where his wife had passed away he was not taking his medications. high blood pressure can lead to stroke. we know that he was in atrial fibrillation which is an abnormal rhythm of the heart, and that can end up with sudden cardiac death, and i feel this is what ultimately led the his demise. rich: all the a times of things you would need daily medication for, right? >> absolutely. rich: okay. doctor, thank you so much for joining us this afternoon. >> my pressure. rich well, the vatican says pope francis had a restful night as he continues to recover from double pneumonia. the pontiff is receiving

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pressure against iran. they say it's aimedded at developing iran from -- preventing iran from developing a nuclear weapon. here's the president. >> there are two ways iran can be handled, militarily or you make a deal. i would prefer to make a deal because i'm not looking to hurt iran. they're great people. >> reporter: the president's willingness to negotiate is a shift from his position in 2018 when he stepped away from the iran nuclear deal. the president at the time slammed that deal saying it was not negotiated in good faith and that it gave the iranian regime too much in exchange for too little. still, some republicans are hopeful that that iran and the u.s. can eventually strike an agreement. >> it's to -- so easy for iran. all they have to do is give up their nuclear weapon technology, their alliances with his la and -- hezbollah and hamas have

been smashed. stop fomenting and sponsoring terror throughout the world. accept peace. look, those sanctions and the iranian people would be so much better off. >> reporter: this all comes days after the united nations' nuclear energy watchdog chief raised alarm about a iran's nuclear program just in the last few months ago. rich: maddie, thanks so much. appreciate it. ♪ rich: a russian strike on a ukrainian town killed at least 11 people. officials say this is a wave of aerial attacks continuing into its second night following the u.s. decision to stop sharing satellite images with ukraine. stephanie bennett has the details. hi, stephanie. >> reporter: hey, rich. yeah, the war continues to ramp up and showing no signs of stopping or slowing anytime soon. amid u.s. efforts to set kyiv and moscow down at the negotiating table. now overnight a russian attack in eastern ukraine killed at least 14 poem and left of dozent

dozens injured. multiple ballistic missiles, rockets and drones struck 8 multi-story buildings and 30 vehicles killing 11 while a separate drone attack in kharkiv tilled -- killed 3. russian troops retook three villages in the kursk region from ukrainian forts.. -- forces. earlier this week the u.s. paused military aid and intelligence sharing with kyiv. president trump says he is strongly considering widespread sanctions and tariffs on russia until moscow and kyiv agree to a peace deal. in his nightly address last night, president zelenskyy welcomed ongoing discussions with trump's team and growing support from european nations who this week vowed to step up with $80 billion in new -- $800 million in new security

spending. the focus is clear, peace as soon as possible, security as reliably as possible. ukraine is committed to being as a constructive as possible. >> reporter: few -- for now, u.s. and ukrainian officials are set to meet next week to discuss a path forward to ending this war. rich? rich: stephanie bennett live for us, thank you. ♪ ♪ rich: for more on this, let's bring in former national security council chief of staff and vice chair for american security at america first policy institute, fred fleitz, and former u.s. ambassador to the organization for security and cooperating in europe, michael carpenter. gentlemenning thank you so much for joining us. fred, these discussions that are going to happen in saudi arabia with the ukrainians and the u.s. delegation, this is what president trump had to say ahead of it. ukraine on the battlefield right

now. i am strongly considering large scale banking sanctions, sanctions and tariffs on russia until a ceasefire and final settlement on peace is reached. to russia and ukraine, get to the table right now before it's too late. thank you. fred, russia is among the most sanctioned nations on earth. do you think this is enough to get them to the table and seriously begin to talk about a discussion to end this war? >> well, i think the good news here is that president trump has made it clear to zelenskyy that if he doesn't stand with trump's efforts to immediately halt the warsh we're not going to be backing ukraine anymore. i think zelenskyy's going to be solidly with trump. the problem is the russians have actually picked up the war over the last week. that's going to require, i think, very tough u.s. sanctions but also something else. i think mr. trump's going to have to make it clear to president putin, this is putin's only opportunity and a very small win dove time to end this war -- window of time to return to the world as a nation in good

standing. there's no other leader that wants to deal with putin. he has a small opportunity, and if he's not going to deal, trump's going to walk away, and i'm hoping we can use sophisticated diplomacy to get putin to recognize that. rich: ambassador, what is it going to take to get russia to stop this assault on ukraine? >> i think that's a great question. so far we've seen this administration apply most of the pressure to ukraine, not russia. this statement is is interesting. so far putin has been maximalist in terms of his terms for ending this war. he wants five ukrainian regions to be ceded to russia in their entirety. he wants a pledge that ukraine will never join nato and that there will be no nato country troops inside ukraine. and then he wants some form of what he calls demilitarization of ukraine. a lot of people think that amounts to the capitulation of

ukraine to russia, especially in the absence of any sort of security guarantees for ukraine over the long term. so if we shift the leverage here from ukraine to russia, then i think it's going to be easier to do a deal that diverts that -- averts that outcome. rich: fred, how do we in the united states avoid a scenario where there's a pause, there are no peacekeepers, vladimir putin waits a certain number of months or years and then he rearms and resumes his assault on ukraine? >> my friend, general keith kelling cog -- kellogg, we wrote about this last spring. i think we can come up with a scenario where ukraine is heavily armed, peace keeping forces are deployed along the border, and we may actually lift some russian sanctions, a percentage of the sanctions, attack -- a tax on those revenues would be used to rebuild ukraine. but i think the key is not isolating russia, making sure that ukraine is safe but by being fully armed is a way

forward with this. and i don't think ukraine should concede any territory. of we'll draw the battle lines, we'll draw the border along the current battle lines and negotiate territory later. rich: ambassador, the trump administration likes to point out they gave ukraine offensive weaponry in their first administration. do you think there was a missed opportunity in the obama administration to more forcefully arm the ukrainians for something like this? >> well, i would point to more recent history and say perhaps in 2022, especially in the back half of that year, there was an opportunity to provide ukraine with a surge in security assistance that could have really helped the ukrainians with the momentum they had then. of course, there were fears of escalation on the russian side that prevented, ultimately, that from happening and the sort of scale that would have ended the war. but we are where we are today and, you know, i think the rub here is whether european nations will be rowed -- allowed to

provide troops that will secure ukraine's sovereignty and prevent a reattack from putin over the longer term or whether putin will insist that any sort of deal to be viable will require that there be a commitment that no nato allies can deploy troops inside ukraine. i think that is the key question right now in terms of how this shakes out in the coming weeks and and month months. rich: real quick, fred, the warning that trump gave to hamas, this is the last warning or else, what's the or else do you think here? >> i think we're approaching a tipping point in in this conflict between israel and gaza because there soon won't with any hostages alive. and i think we could be looking at special forces, a significant increase in weapons provided to israel. this is the time for the u.s. to really try to twist the arms of hamas. we are dealing -- rich: and u.s. special forces, do you mean? >> what's that? rich: you mean u.s. special forces?

>> i think there may be some possibility of that. i don't know what the president has in mind, but i think hamas should take the president seriously, that he's going to significantly are increase the pressure. rich: okay. fred needs, mike carpenter, thank you for joining us. much appreciated. >> good to be here. rich: the u.k.-based syrian observatory for human rights says forces loyal to syria's new government have killed more than 300 civilians over the past two days. most of those victims are said to belong to the same ethnic minority as basharal as a sad. the killings are being called individual violences by mid -- amid a crackdown. and we are learning new details in the shooting of a new jersey police officer last night. that's coming up. ♪ ♪ ♪

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rich: four police officers in two states were shot last night. two of them are expected to survive is after they were shot by a now-deceased suspect in

charlotte, north carolina. but a separate shootout in newark, new jersey, left an officer dead and wounded another. a madison scarpino has the late. madison? >> reporter: rich, multiple suspects are in custody right now, and that includes a 14-year-old who was also shot in last night's incident. and that that teenager is now facing charges of murder, attempted murder and possession of illegal weapons. authorities say the teen killed 26-year-old officer a joseph -- who was surrounded by his parents and fife brothers at the hospital. the teen also a injured another officer who is recovering, and authorities say police approached the suspects yesterday evening to investigate if they had illegal weapons, and that's when the shooting started. >> five-year veteran, the officer a was shot before he even had the opportunity to leave his police car. >> our heart is heavy right now. our agency is hurting. we lost a true hero last night.

>> reporter: the investigation into the shooting is just getting started. there is still a lot of questions as to how the 14-year-old got a weapon and why they shot at a police. but at today's update, local officials said the community has to focus on getting guns out of kids' hands. here's the newark mayor. >> we haven't figured out how to mentor our kids out of difficult situations and problems that they feel like they need to resolve their conflicts with guns and weapons on the street. we just have to do a better job. >> reporter: and just hours before the newark shooting, rich, you mentioned that a charlotte police shooting. thankfully, those two officers are expected to be okay. but law enforcement experts say officer-involved shootings are an ongoing issue in this country. elle send it back to you. rich: madison scarpino, thank you. president trump says canada is cheating the united states farmers on the usmca a trade

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big globalists, have been ripping off the united states. they've been taking money away from the united states. all we're doing is getting some of it back. and we're going to treat our country fairly. this country's been ripped off from every nation in the world, every company outside in the world. we've been ripped off at a levels never seen before. and all we're going to do is get it back. we're going to get a lot of it back. we're not going to let people take advantage of us anymore. rich: president trump defending his tariffs in an ec clues we've interview with maria bartiromo, catch it tomorrow at 10 a.m.. for m let's bring in our guests here, you've got andrew and jonathan hoenig. ann a describe you're a farmer. and i want to get your take, you do some exporting, on president trump's tariffs and whether you support them. do you. >> yeah. it's just refreshing to have an

actual business mogul in the white house who recognizes that we're being unfairly -- we don't have fair trade on a global scale. and a lot of the agricultural commodities that we produce in this country and and my family produces on our farm are exported across, you know, international boundaries. and just to level the the playing field is great news. rich: you know, jonathan, invest investigation -- investors or had a much different reaction to president trump's tariffs. what's the view from investors and overall among, you know, economists in the global economy? >> well, rich, tariffs are a tax. they're a tax paid by americans. and what's probably even more frustrating to markets is the uncertainty over the tariffs. i mean, the president, with all respect, has changed his mind three or four times in just the last week. that's affecting billions of dollars of trade. it's difficult for a business to plan in this type of environment, rich, a business --

when it buys a plant or buys a farm, for that matter, it's looking 5, 10, 15 years out. so it's almost impossible to plan in an environment where the rules are changing almost every day. and, of course, a lot of companies, target and walmart among them, are warning for higher prices. rich: andrew, this is what the farm bureau had to say. quote: approximately 85% of our total potact ash supply is -- potash spry is inbolterred from canada. -- imported. add a adding even more costs and reducing markets could create an economic burden some farmers may not be able to bear. these retaliatory tariffs, are they hitting your abandonment line in any inputs that you might have? >> yeah, absolutely. this is fears of retaliatory action, but overwhelmingly farmers supported trump because he's looking at reducing

regulations and increasing our fuel and oil production here domestically. and guess what? that's what is translated into fertilizer. so the more we can produce here, there may be short-term concerns, but in the long run this is going to benefit everyone, all of our farmers. and, you know, that retaliatory action happens because agricultural products are one of the few things this country still exports. but if we don't level the playing field now, if many of the things we export are already tariffed by other countries. rich: jonathan, what about other sectors beyond agriculture? the president's arguing there's going to be a renaissance of sorts in domestic manufacturing. >> certainly. automotive is, rich, is a great example. a lot of cars are made here in america, but a lot of the parts are made in canada, for example, or mexico, and they go back and forth, you know, behind those lines two or three times before they actually get put into a

car. it's one of the reasons you saw the big three auto manufacturers phone trump himself last week and get a reprieve from those tariffs. so there's a crony aspect about this. the government essentially picking winners and losers. and to our guest's point, china is the world's biggest importer of soybeans. that's' one reason the soybean lobby is against these tariffs, john deere against these tariffs, tyson food against these tear rifes and why we're likely to see the thing we saw in the first trump administration, subsidies to some of these farmers impacted by the disruptive tariffs that are to come. rich: massive debate, especially when it comes to tariffs. andrew and jonathan, thank you so much for joining us this afternoon. >> thanks. >> thank you. ♪ ♪ rich: we are springing forward this weekend. the twice a year ritual is meant to maximize daylight starting the day an hour earlier in the spring and summer. be sure to move your clocks

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