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howard: it was a record-breaking speech by president trump. 100 minutes longer than any other presidential address to congress, and it was classic trump. boastful and bombastic, aimed largely at the maga base and beloved by the revamp ised republican party that now controls washington. >> it has been stated by many that the first month of our presidency, it's our presidency -- [applause] is the most successful in the history of our nation. do you know who number two is? george washington. howard: the democrats end baserred themselves, even many immediate media liberals, by9 hooting and hollering moments into trump's speech. the leading offender e, 77-year-old congressman al green shaking his cane at the president and shouting, you don't have a mandate. the sergeant is at arms evicted him from the house chamber. >> he has no mandate -- >> take your seat. [inaudible conversations]

howard: there wasn't much about unity in the speech. at one point trump taunted the democratic members saying they're sullen, they would be suggest isen even if i cured a devastating disease. >> and these people sitting right here will not clap, will not stand and, certainly, will not cheer for these astronomical achievements. they won't do it no matter what. howard: of course, republican lawmakers have sat on their hands during speeches by democratic presidents. that's a capitol hill tradition. now, there were omissions, exaggerations and plenty to keep the fact checkers busy such as not mentioning how the stock is market plummeted after his tariffs against canada and mexico briefly took effect. the newspaper coverage was largely negative for a speech that again highlighted trump's mastery of television as an art

form. i'm howard kurtz and this is "mediabuzz." muck. ♪ ♪ howard: television reaction to the speech was decidedly divided. >> this was the most boisterous, the longest, the most partisan speech i've ever heard a president give in this kind of setting, and i go back maybe 50 years on this. i also think it may have been the most effective. >> substantively, i think that was the finest speech donald trump has ever given. it was off the charts. >> donald trump has cemented his legacy not only as the 45th and 47th president, but as a president who understands the television medium better than anybody who has ever held that post before. howard: but critics in the media were all riled up.

>> this was the tale of american empire. because at the end of the day, he wants to run it all. he wants to rule it all. he wants to control it all. >> you look at that speech last night, and it was just -- it was a long list, a collection of cultural grievances. >> there were the insults, there were the taunts, there were the exaggerations, there was a partisanship top to bottom. there was personal attacks. >> i don't think i've ever seen something that was so pointed, so partisan not just in what the president was saying, but in the mood in the room, the sort of aggression, the occasional cruelty, the mocking, the laughter. howard: joining us now to analyze the coverage a, a mary cath lin ham, cohost of the podcast getting hammered, and in los angeles, leslie marshall, radio talk show host. both are fox news contributors.

mary katherine, what explains this deep divide between those who viewed it as a successful speech and those who thought it was a failure? >> we are negatively partisan she low parrized. i don't know -- polarized. howard: thanks for the breaking news. >> as someone who is cynical about state of the unions, in fact, i'm on record to who just sends a let err, i wasn't looking forward to watching it, and then i watched. he's good at tv. he's good at tv. he creates these moments that are undeniably moving. the one with the little secret service agent. i lost it at that point, not expecting to. the moment with the widow of the slain officer. and then he set up the democrats by saying they're not going to clap for any of this, and they happily obliged him and more. i was briefly worried that he wasn't going to be able to give the speech when he was being shouted down at the beginning. i think he reacted well and johnson reacted well to remove him in an orderly fashion and

and the rest of the democrats did not become the style. they became the story instead of the substance of the speech. howard: more to the democrats in a a second but, leslie, new york times, he never made the case for why the potential benefits of the disruption he triggered were worth the real costs at home and abroad. politico, almost no language aimed at persuading democrats. so the press didn't much like the speech. >> i don't think the press is the only ones, howie, when you look at the town halls. i don't think george soros paid all those people that showed up to see bernie sanders talk against what this president and the republican party in the majority of the house and the senate are doing to this country. and that's what the president didn't do. yes, there were omissions, and we like to have pretty words for what are lies. what he didn't do is talk about how he used a child with cancer as a prop but didn't talk about the cancer funding that's being stripped for future children. what he didn't talk about is that child who's african-american and his community is largely affected by

these dei cuts that are not only within the government, but are being followed suit because the government is telling them to in the private sector out of fear. it's going to be a disproportion nate disadvantage to that child and his dad who was sitting right there and his community in the future. the list goes on. what he doesn't talk about is how your 401(k)s, your kids' education funds, your ira as are tanking because of the decisions that he is making and that republicans are blindly going along with despite their constituents saying, please, don't do this to us. howard: what you describe as a prop, a lot of people found to be a moving moment. >> if he actually becomes a prop to the opposition when you start targeting him as a prop. it's a double bind for democrats because nicole wallace was on msnbc saying, oh, well, i hope he doesn't have to be at a january 6 event sometime. and if that makes you look like a jerk -- >> but, wait, wait, wait, howie,

can i say one thing? mary cath linker do you know what makes your party look like hypocritical jerks? it's when you oust an african-american representative of congress but you guys didn't with with joe wilson, with yelling liar at obama, you didn't with the women howling at marjorie taylor greene rain lauren boebert. that's hypocrisy at its finest. it's play -- >> democrats voted for that censure sure, did they not? howard: ten democrats finish. >> yes, they did. >> and more out of line if you're going to balance -- howard: ten democrats voted to censure al green -- >> you don't think marjorie taylor greene -- howard: atrocious, leslie -- >> yeah, i do. biden stops speaking on his own all the time because he loses track of what he's doing. howard: i think you're much more generous toward the hooting and hollering than even many people

on your side have been. and they were almost -- dems were almost universally condemned. and, by the way, mary katherine, president trump also called for the firing of rachel maddow and nicole wallace at msnbc. they probably think it's a badge of honor, because of remarks they made about the young cancer victim. >> yeah. i mean, he shouldn't do that, right? like, they have the right to say what they're going to do, and -- to say, and he's very lucky in his opponents. they end up looking not great. he drives them to it. leslie's not wrong that some of this is whipped up by donald trump himself. but he ends up being fortunate in the way that people behave themselves in response to him. howard: so, mary katherine, trump says i want to balance the budget, but he also is calling for tax cuts, and he's also a calling for no taxes on social security benefits which will help balloon the deficit.

>> right. howard: so a little bit of a contradiction here? >> the thing that leslie's right about is, look, some of this speech did speak to normal americans. that, i think, many democrats miss. when he's listing these wasteful programs and he's talking about the ridiculous things that their money is spent on, people are receptive to that. they are not as a reten -- receptive to this idea that, oh, there's going to be disruption and pain. he could easily say, look, i've inherited a soft economy, inflation is hard to fight, but we're moving in the right direction with energy policy and these things. his mixed-up messaging and sometimes, like, damaging to business planning, these is sort of moves and feints on tariffs, that is a real risk. if he does not make good on his promise to bork on cost -- work on cost of living for americans, he will pay for it. now, what he does have a a massive victory on immigration and keeping the border safe which he has taken care of in those 40 days. he gets credit for that. democrats aren't whining about

that as much because they know americans wanted that taken care of, and they knew that biden specifically intentionally did not do it, which is where that suffering came from. howard: leslie, we'll talk more about this in the next segment, but the president also a defended the doge budget cutting but didn't address the mistakes that have been made or the human impactses of those firings which the press has increasingly focused on, for example, at the v.a. is. they had to stop a cancer treatment program because of these cuts. >> what they are doing to veterans is immoral, it's un-american, it's horrific, it's very hard to justify the kinds of mistakes that are being made. you know, when you have people whether it is in air traffic control or a cancer research that they're fired, then they're brought back, then they're fired again, this is the chaos that those in my party that did not vote for this man, this administration and this party

because of this, because of the chaos. and we're not alone. i know everybody wants to say, oh, the george soros plants -- they're not. these are people that are angry. you can see them all over the place. i voted for trump, but i didn't know he was going to take my job, my wife's job, my kid's job. i voted for trump, but i didn't know he was going to deport my grandmother who is not a criminal, she came here at the age of 3 illegally. to mary katherine's point, i would agree he's going to pay for it, and i think republicans are going to pay for it hiv heavily in the midterms. i always worried about crowd size back in 2016 with trump. republicans should be worried when they see what's happening with bernie sanders right now. howard: mary katherine, there have been violent attacks against tesla sites and chargers, and it's just reprehensible, but it shows you

how high emotions are running in this country. >> no. and, unfortunately, i think political violence on the left does not get the coverage and condemnation it often should because many on the left are, like, he's kind of asking for it, right? and that's not the case. howard: you think it's a target, on the right, it would get -- >> more coverage in other places. howard: okay. >> but to leslie's point, her chaos point is not incorrect. but the problem for democrats is they never answered for the chaos of the biden administration which included a executive working in the oval office with with who knows who guiding him for many years. howard: yeah. i think it's clear that joe biden should never have run, and and his condition was covered up. let me get a break. when we come back, the president's tariffs put on hold, and the media's offensive against elon musk's mass firings. ♪

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howard: the supreme court ruled 5-4 against president trump clearing the way for $2 billion in frozen usis aid funds to be spent on work already done. meanwhile, elon musk and doge are pushing to cut 80,000 job at the veterans affairs department, as we touched on, along with up to half the work force at the irs, the a a p says, and cutbacks at social security. meanwhile, trump has put his 25% tariffs on canada and mexico on hold for one month. >> tariffs are about making america rich again and making america great again, and it's happening and it will happen rather quickly. there'll be a little disturbance with, but we're okay with that. >> germany taxes or adds a 10%

tariff to our parts. we add a 2.5% tariff to their bmw, their mercedes and everything else. don't you think tariffs should be reciprocal? >> they make these mistakes all the time. the only reason today ever fix the mistakes, to be clear, is because they get caught by reuters, "the new york times" or someone else. howard: so most economists quoted by the media say the tariff war will hurt the economy, raise prices particularly in certain industries, but trump, mary katherine, dismisses that as a little bit of a disturbance. >> yeah. i don't think that that is good messaging, and i think that it could be more than a little disturbance. i think tariffs can end up causing economic disturbance. they can cause price hikes for people who promised cost of living help. it can change how businesses do their planning because they're adjusting constantly to this guy. and, look, canada's not the enemy, right? like, they're -- you can have a discussion with them. i know trudeau's sort of

annoying, but you can figure things out. and this constant back and forth, i think, look, it can be a powerful negotiating tool, but if you're messing with it too much, it's going to throw off what he's attempting to do with tariffs. bringing manufacturing back to the u.s., that can happen in spurts like gas and improvements, but that would be a longer horizon than what he's going to benefit from politically. howard: leslie, there's a new series of headlines about trump delaying the levies against canada and mexico. maybe he wants to sort of settle this after a month and then declare victory? >> i don't think he knows what he wants to do, i really don't. this is not a well-executed plan. to me, this is a constant knee-jerk reaction. to me, this is, to me, what happens when you have business people running a government because the government cannot be run like tesla, and it cannot be run as it has been, like a reality show from my side of the aisle. look, tariffs are taxes. the people that pay the taxes

are the consumers. that is fact. economists say that. there's no, you know, political ideology behind it. i mean, two plus two is four, you know? in the process of not just hurting the american people who can pay, you know, upwards of $1300 per household, which is not anything to a trump or a musk, but the it's a hot to an average american, to a middle american, to a lore income american even more so. but when you look at what's happening in addition to that, you're angering our neighbors who border our nation. you already have companies that are having layoffs in preparation and/or in fear of these tariffs. and, again, more chaos. howard: i've only got -- >> it's very confusing. howard: i want to get a couple of sound bites in, but first, trump is clearly disturbed by some of the coverage, and he's moderating his tone, talking about being more precise in the layoffs. and we say use the scalpel instead of the hatchet. now, you mentioned justin trudeau and canada where they're

having an election today. here's what the prime minister a had to say. >> now, it's not in my habit to agree with "the wall street journal", but donald, they point out that even though you're a very smart guy, this is a very dumb thing to do. howard: mary katherine, trump's talk of making canada the a 51st state has turned our ally against us. >> yeah. it's put wings underneath -- wind underneath the wings of trudeau. i want to make a note about the doge cuts. the national air traffic controller association says no air traffic controllers were fired ever, so i just want to fact check that quickly from the last second. the democrats are dealing with a baseline problem. leslie says you can't run a government like a business. fine, part of that is because government is run egregiously. it's criminal, some of the things they do, as elon -- howard: it's very bloated. >> hey, if a business were run

this way, the government would prosecute the people running the business and put them in prison because that's how bad it is. so i think when you're dealing with a baseline of very bad service from, for instance, the v.a. which is one of the for disliked federal agencies by veterans themselves or the irs which is disliked roundly by most everybody -- howard: yeah. >> you have to deal with that fact before you can tell people they're losing this great good. howard: leslie, here is elon musk on joe rogan's podcast. >> social security is the biggest ponzi scheme of all time. what people pay into social security and the money goes out of social security immediately, but the obligation with for social security is your entire retirement career. howard: leslie, i have about half a minute. trump told maria bartiromo that he's going to protect social security, medicare and medicaid. but here is his, you know, deputy president calling it a scam. >> i'm sorry, saying that, the president saying or any

republican saying they're not going to touch social security, medicare or medicaid is a lie. it is a lie when you look at what they propose, it is a lie when you look at what they're saying to each other, and it's certainly a lie when you see what they're saying when the cameras aren't rolling and we have those leaks. it is horrifically offensive to me who has an 85-year-old with mother who relies largely on social security, as so many of our parents and grand with parents do. many of us hope of that in the future as well. especially coming from the a billionaire. you know, if he thinks this is a ponzi scheme, then write some checks, elon. write some checks. [laughter] howard: okay. well,, whether it is a lie or not will be seen as we get into the budget wears. up next -- what is up next? during the measles crisis, rfk, mia. and later, president trump's threat against hamas. ♪

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before any deaths, and there will be more. i'm not i trying to be dramatic, but these are the facts that we're facing, what you hearing from the medical community, and it's shameful. science is not political. science is just that, and we need that especially when it comes to health, for the better health of our nation. and that's not a democratic or republican talking point. howard: mary katherine, i've been critical of kennedy's lifelong crusade against vaccines. his spoke top spokesman quit after two weeks was he didn't like the way he was handling the measles business. isn't that picture from california just blatantly tone deaf? is. >> yeah, i think it is, and he should illustrate that he's on top of this crisis in the proper way if we are, you know, in normal times. but the idea from if leslie that science is not political coming from a democrat of after covid is, frankly, laughable. this is what happens, if i may borrow a phrase, when francis collins lies about the origins

of covid and what we know about them, and it's shown in e-mails that people can foia and see when he smears now-nih head jay bhattacharya for having normal, rational risk ideas about what we should do, when they force children to get a covid vaccine and put it in the vaccine schedule even though it is not in the risk benefit analysis for children because they are not hurt by covid largely with few exceptions. you get a deficit of public trust on public health because politicians, largely on the left, politicize public health. we all told you this was going to happen, particularly with vaccines, and it would be dangerous, and here we are. howard: leslie, identify got -- i've got half a minute for a response. >> i'm sorry, but it's rfk jr., it's republicans that were demonizing vaccines, not democrats. and that demonization of vaccines led to so many people choosing not to vaccinate themselves and is their children, and that's what why

we're seeing what we're seeing, and that's why we're seeing people bess bodies being lowered into the ground with measle deaths which is unheard of. of i'm sorry, i can't put that on my party -- >> you wouldn't concede -- >> please get with vaccinatedded. >> -- them lying about it was a problem? lying about vaccines a problem? was lying about covid a problem? was locking people in their homes was a party? howard: just briefly. >> any of it. just one point. >> well, very, very briefly, and people hate that i say married to a physician. the thing when you have, hike, covid, it is so fluid that every day they're a making different decisions. >> so, no. >> every day they learn more. >> so none of it -- >> we're learning more about what happens when we don't cigarette sack city nate. >> even though we know in hindsight that they lied about it at the time -- howard: you two can take this outside. thank you, guys. next on "mediabuzz," the president cuts off aid to ukraine and also criticizes russia.

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the brand i trust. howard: after that oval office shout fest, president trump cut off military aid to ukraine. vod is myrrh zelenskyy gave trump the apology he was looking for kind of, sort of saying what happened was regrettable. online the president said he's weighing further sanctions against vladimir putin for his intensified bombardment of ukraine, but he was more restrained with reporters. hink he's hitting them harder than he's been hitting them. and i think probably anybody in that position would be doing that right now. he wants to get it ended, and i think ukraine wants to get it ended. >> democrats would rather prolong an unwithin, proxy war just so they can call trump a traitor for stopping i. >> you're talking about hundreds of thousands of soldiers on the battlefield who are now going to

experience and destruction because president trump felt he didn't get a nice thank you? i mean, it just seems grotesque. howard: joining us now to analyze the coverage in new york, rich allow by -- lowery, editor-in-chief of national review, and with me, richard fowler, radio talk show host and fox news contributor. howly -- [laughter] the press has been -- lowery, the press has been highly critical of trump after that slug fest in the oval office. is that an attempt to pressure zelenskyy back to the negotiating table? >> well, howie, in general in terms of the coverage of this and the tone, it's the first time in my lifetime the press has been critical of someone for wanting to forge a negotiated end to a major war. right? a. [laughter] this is usually what the press wants. but there are different rules for trump. and, obviously, it is concerning that so far publicly at least

he's pressured ukraine more than he has russia. 9 and the pause in intelligence sharing and military aid a would seem to be, you know, another part of that effort because they say that zelenskyy's not ready for peace yet, but vladimir putin doesn't seem ready for peace either. and we saw that truth social post where trump saying look, we're going to sanction and tariff them if they don't stop the pounding, so-called, that ukraine is getting. but then in the oval is office, a slightly different message. [laughter] he's doing what anyone in his situation would. howard: it was interesting that he didn't repeat some version of i on television. fowler, a very long list of pundits say that trump is aligned with vladimir putin and doesn't care about imposing an unfair settlement on ukraine with, for example, allowing the russians to keep the land they're already captured. your thoughts. >> i think this is a very tenuous situation. this war has gone on too long, and if you talk to the ukrainians and european, they would say they want it to come

to an end. but putin wants it to come to an end when he has ukraine. that's the uniqueness. i'm glad that rich brought up this idea of trump sort of putting a tariff on russia and thinks that's going to scare pilot into settling. let's be very clear here, we don't do much trade with russia is. in 2024 we, the u.s., imported just about $3 billion worth of stuff from russia which is a rounding error in the federal budget when it comes to our trade balance around the world. that's pennies. so trade with russia and putting a tariff on it, that's not going to solve our problems here. what is going to solve our problems is some sort of global response to how russia's dealing with this conflict. and i'm not sure in this moment if the trump administration has one. and i think when you add to that the idea that we're now stopping the ukrainians from getting access to our intelligence makes this problem even worse and prolongs this conflict and possibly gives a hand to russia.

howard: so, rich lowry, are you suggesting the press coverage suggests it doesn't care if the war goes on and on and on? or is it unusual because, obviously, they don't trust this president that the coverage a has been as critical as it has? >> it's a symptom of this weird reversal we've had on russia since 2016 when the democrats in the media blamed russia for trump's election. so from that moment, the people who historically for decades had been softest on russia and not interested in cop fronting russia at all -- confronting -- all of a sudden became russia hawks. and then you had parts of the right wondering or concluding, okay, now being anti-russia and pro-ukraine is a progressive cause, are we sure we want to be onboard with that. so i think that, that's been the state of play for year years now. look, if trump actually gets a good deal here, it's a wonderful thing, and he should get praise for it. if it's not and we get a trend candidated ukraine that can't

defend itself, that's a bad thing. howard: yeah. meanwhile, stunning news reported by axios as trump's envoy was negotiating with hamas, the terrorist group that attacked israel about the hostages. president trump later posted this threat: release all the hostages now, not later, and immediately return all the dead bodies of the people you murdered. or is it over for you -- it's over for you with. only sick and twisted people keep bodies, and you are sick and twisted. people of gaza, a beautiful future awaits but not if you hold hostages. if you do, you are dead. rich fowler, holding secret talks with that hamas -- hamas, wasn't as much of a story as i expected. what would it have been if joe biden was negotiating with with hamas terrorists who butchered people? >> i actually think that the media for a moment got this right. i think there's this saying we hear in the halls of the state department and sometimes even in the halls of media outto lets

that the united states does not negotiate with terrorist organizations. but let's be very clear, the facts don't really point that out. over and over again we've seen both the trump administration, the biden administration and the obama administration all negotiated with the taliban who according to the fbi is a terrorist organization. so we have in the past. and if the goal here is to end this conflict and to get these hostages returned, instead of playing telephoning with various international agencies, it might make sense to just talk to the people who are actually holding the hostages. so i free agree with with the president on this mar point. where i disagree with is double speak we're hearing from this white house -- howell: double speak? >> he's going to turin the gaza into the riviera of the middle east. and the reason why there's double speak there is because when you talk to the american people, poll after poll after poll especially after the long, extended war in afghanistan and iraq, people say we don't want

foreign engagement, 40 dow yo dow -- how do you do that without money not being spent abroad? you can't. howard: rich lowry, what do you make of this dire street which, to my surprise, has gotten limited coverage? it was almost a one-day story. >> howie, you're right that talking directly to hamas would in a normal news environment be a thermonuclear story. but there's so much going on, it's kind of neglected. also usually the conservative press would make a big deal of it and slam whichever president is doing that. the conservative press is giving trump the benefit of the doubt, obviously. two, his outreach to hamas is coupled with the bluntest, harshest threats against the terror the group we've ever heard from a president of the united states. howard: rich. >> listen, i think he's right about that, and i'm surprised the conservative press isn't talking about the idea of what's happening in europe, right? as we are sort of talking about ukraine and hamas, the european governments are talking about how they're going to expand

their nuclear weapon argument arsenals. this is a bad thing for american hegemonic power, but they're not saying it because they're giving trump the benefit of the doubt. howard: the europeans are making plans without the u.s. given that they don't know what's going to happen next. we also don't know what's going to happen next -- [laughter] but we all would like this war to be over. now, after the break, donald trump unloads on sleazebag journalists just like old times. ♪ it's like you're with us every step of the way. ♪ (man) right on time! (vo) stay in the know. from your dock... to their door. i had the worst dream last night. you were in a car crash and the kids and i were on our own. that's awful, hon. my brother was saying he got life insurance from ethos. and he got $2 million in coverage, all online. life insurance made easy. check your price today at ethos.com. sheldon: restoration is more than walls.

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howard: donald trump is attacking the fake news again, this time over his handshake, with chief justice john roberts. >> thank you, again. thank you. howard: and that sparked some media speculation. >> won't forget. donald trump understands that john roberts is his guy who sprang him and saved him from prosecution with his ruling on presidential immunity. >> i think an educated opinion is trump is likely thanking him for the immunity decision last june that really made it impossible for the special counsel to bring a criminal trial before the election. howard: the president hit back hard. i don't watch fake news, but i understand they are going crazy asking what is it that i was thanking justice robert for. they never called my office to ask, of course, but if they had, i would have told these sleazebag journalists that the

thanks was for doing the good job of swearing anymore at the inauguration -- inaugural. lowery, sleazebacks -- sleazebags or not? yes or no. >> yeah. he thanks all the people, and the idea that that decision is top of mind for trump at that moment, that he's going to do this secret thank you that might be caught on a hot mic. it's preposterous. howard: fowler, some people added, well, they didn't know for sure, but that didn't stop them -- >> i didn't know for sure. i do think it's interesting, roberts has often said he doesn't want his court to be political even though he has stared many of the decisions this kurt's made right into the -- court's made right into the middle of politics. it's why many americans think the court is illegitimate. the curt needs to be above politics, right now it's right in the middle of it. howard: well, john roberts sometimes votes with the

liberals as he did in a decision this week. okay. number two, the price of eggs keeps going up, and agriculture or secretary brooke rollins has a suggestion. >> well, i have chickens in my backyard. people are sort of looking around thinking, well, maybe i could get a chicken in my backward yard, and it's awesome. howard: rich lowry, is she unaware that many americans live in apartments and they don't have a backyard? >> this is a totally unfair hit on her. so she goes on "fox & friends" weekend, describes this billion dollar plan to deal with the price of eggs which mostly has to do with dealing with the iowan flu, and rachel campos-duffy, right when they're about to end the segment, says, well, i raise chickens, and then she says raising chickens is a great thing. it is kind of funny, it's viral, but it is not what she's proposing as the solution to the piece of eggs. howard: richard a fowler, if you want to raise chicken, be my

guest, but two of my colleagues say the smell is really bad. >> it's sort of hard to raise chickens. but i think this is the large err problem with the trump cabinet. the treasury said, i think the phrase was we were not -- the american dream isn't based off cheap goods. that's how they speak to the american people which is why, you know, people have a problem with it. howard: all right. i want to leave time for this. the british press slamming j.d. vance for comparing a rare mineral deals with with ukraine to this. >> that is a way better security guarantee than 20,000 troops from some random country that hasn't fought a war in 30 or 40 years. howard: look at a some of these headlines in the london papers. a dunce cap and so forth. retch lowery, the vp say says this is, a suredty dis-- absurdly dishonest.

>> i don't think he meant this as a slam. if he wanted to slam britain and france, he would have named them. he was trying to make the point the mineral deal is were the security for ukraine than european troops. but i can understand britain and france taking offense because they are actually talking about sending troops there and they have, indeed, fought wars by our side the last couple of decades. howard: yeah. richard fowler, they are the only two countries that have talk about it. he tried to walk it back, obviously, he got hammered in europe, but it seems like, clearly, he was singling out britain and france. >> i think he was. and let's saming out, vice president j.d. vance is looking to find his footing as a vice president in a cabinet full of cable news stars, right? he's trying to figure out how do i get more hits -- howard: well, he's good on tv. >> we're talking about him, so i think he's having a winning sunday. howard: well, let's stick with this for a moment, mr. lowery.

j.d. vance, i think, is a hero to many maga people. >> yeah. howard: but the idea that he, you know, is desperate for television attention, he's done a bunch of interviews. i'm not sure i agree. >> yeah. his position's not the least bit insecure. he's not worried about these other cabinet officials. he has a position of great influence with the president, and he's fantastic on tv. this is the closest you've had to a misstep from j.d. vance, interview he's given in months and months and months. >> i don't know how i feel about that. look, i think you have j.d. vance in a world with elon musk, pete hegseth, a world of folks -- howard: one of them is the richest man in the world. >> exactly. and understanding donald trump is for all intents and purposes a lame duck, everybody is trying to position themselves as the heir to the maga throne, and i think that's what j.d. vance is doing. >> go it's not going to be elon musk. he was born in the wrong country. >> true. that part i agree with.

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howard: hamilton, the fabulously successful musical about the founding fathers, was supposed to return to the kennedy center here in washington next year. but the creator, lin-manuel miranda, has canceled that run blaming the decision by president trump the fire a number of directors and name himself chairman, quote: the kennedy center was not created in this spirit, and we're not going to be part of it while it is the trump kennedy center. we're just not going to be part of it. rick yes knell, accused miranda of being intolerant of people who don't agree with him politically and said he and his

producer don't want republicans going to their shows. lin, what do you accomplish by depriving thousands of americans the chance to see your excellent play? tom yam misis a seasoned journalist, very competent guy, but i bet 99 out of 100 americans wouldn't recognize his picture that highlights how these evening news jobs are now occupied by lesser known, lesser paid figures because the broadcast networks make their money in the morning. in the past the anchors included dan rather, tom brokaw, peter jennings and later brian williams, charlie gibson, diane sawyer, bob schieffer, katie couric. those days are long gone. bbc chairman is class tuesdaying his network for a scandal involving the documentary on hamas that has been withdrawn. this is a really, really bad

moment. this has been revealed to be a dagger to the heart of the bbc's claim to be impartial. the investigation discovered9 that the film, excuse me, was narrated by the son of a hamas official. what a fiasco. that's it for this edition of med ya was. -- "mediabuzz." subscribe to my daily podcast, we deal with the top five stories such as gene hackman. now we know he died of alzheimer's because his wife, who was his caretaker, a had died a week earlier. well, we're back here next sunday, 11 eastern. we try to get as much into our hour here. that is often difficult, there's often a many stories we can't get to, but i'll probably get to them on my podcast because you don't have commercials there. we'll see you next week. thanks for watching. ♪

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