the reason why we had starliner and spacex is exactly for this reason. if one fails, we have another option. >> bill: okay. the two astronauts are getting real anxious. that would be my guess. they are about to come home. let's do it. thank you, nice to see you and we'll watch it together. thank you for coming on. >> thanks for having me, bill. >> bill: you bet. >> dana: maybe they will be our before we go tomorrow. today surfers was catching waves in southern california when dolphins joined in. that is so fun. i would never do it. i'm scared and not talented on a surf board. that's cool. that's pretty neat. they're having fun, which i love. oh my gosh. great show. see you on "the five" and maybe other things to come. harris faulkner is up next.

>> harris: president trump about to meet with the ireland prime minister. we have our eyes on that. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." a lot happening right now that they could discuss and likely will including our top story this hour. [shouting] >> harris: angry, some carrying signs of hate or just spewing it from their mouths and they are marching again moments from now. this was the mass movement across new york city yesterday as they shouted demands that anti-israel activist khalil be released. his supporters shouted, chanted anti-israel slogans. they hate jewish americans, this country and they fought with our police officers. nypd police made a dozen

arrests. and those people are not slowing down. as i mentioned, this will pick up again today. demonstrators rallying outside a new york courthouse. a judge is holding the first hearing for khalil's case this hour and the syrian national, born there, faces deportation after immigration custom enforcement agents arrested him and revoked the student visa and green card accused of leading pro-hamas riots. he was on campus when the group handed out pro-hamas propaganda flyers like these celebrating the october 7th massacre of 1,200 innocent israelis. more than that number. republican senator john kennedy. >> i happen to believe that if foreign students want to come here and learn and maybe stay

and assimilate and become americans i'm happy to have it. i'm not happy to pay for them to come here to hate on america. i'm not happy to have universities support that while at the same time taking american taxpayer dollars. i hate the smell of hypocrisy in the morning. >> harris: new opinion piece now. dems defending anti-israel agitator khalil. another example how they andy let schools failed jewish students. jason chaffetz had choice words for democrats in "focus" with me yesterday. >> every single time i turn around the democrats aren't concerned about the victims. they aren't concerned about the innocent people that are just trying to live their lives. why can't they actually just once in a while stand up for somebody who is a victim and say you know what? this is not the way we do things in the united states of america. you don't get to come and

threaten these people's lives and tell them you're in favor of death and destruction to jews. >> harris: amen. what about going after our nypd police officers? that is just unreal. but not unseen. we've seen it before. alexis mcadams is at columbia. >> they called for a walk-out in support of the palestinian people. it was kind of boring on campus. things heated up blocks from here. they gathered. not just students from columbia, nyu or other universities but people from new york city demanding that khalil be released from ice custody right now. [shouting] >> it's not going to be on the campuses so much anymore. some of the protestors will take to the streets. thousands marching for hours.

i was right there with them trying to get information on what they stand for and what their demands on. it led to chaos. they wouldn't get out of the road or streets facing off with the nypd as a dozen people were handcuffed and arrested. listen. [shouting] >> the white house says khalil's arrest is not about free speech. they say the 30-year-old who was originally from syria is being investigated as a national security threat saying he was leading activities that align with hamas. the state department telling fox news part of our immigration laws allow the secretary of state to remove a non-citizen in their presence saying if they have any serious adverse foreign policy consequences you can pull them out. i want to take a look right now at the flyers. we talked about these. saw these on campus near barnard

and columbia. pro-hamas pamphlets and photos of known terror leaders found near the campus here. administration believes khalil handed them out. also this pamphlet as well glorifying the attacks by hamas but even with that protestors say president trump and police have no right to step in. >> when you hear president trump saying that more arrests are going to happen. he says the agitators will get thrown behind bars and get visas and green cards pulled what do you think? >> we need solidarity. i'm a u.s. citizen. they can't do it to me. they can't do it to me. deport me, you can't. let's go. let's go. >> what about if president trump said they will make more arrests at the campuses? >> [bleep] police. >> all right, you heard right there what they think of the police and trump administration. they think they have no right to do this. jewish students and families

i've talked to pay $1 hundred thousand a pop to send students here. they've had enough and happy the trump administration is doing this. more protests are expected and they probably won't be on campus. they will crack down. you can expect to see them mid town and near washington square park. >> harris: be careful as well. thank you. we'll keep an eye on all of what is going on in terms of that activity and bring you any breaking news on that. we saw so much yesterday. i was telling you about the arrests that police did. also we'll have continuing coverage of that hearing when it begins in about 30 minutes or fewer from now. our legal panel kerri urbahn, jonathan turley, andy mccarthy. we're focused and ready. will senate democrats help keep the federal government from shutting down at the end of this week? house republicans were united in passing a spending bill and now senate republicans need eight

democrats to join them to advance that measure. only one house democrat split from his party to help pass the resolution. the hill is highlighting democrats' anxiety ahead of this vote. a headline. senate democrats leery of blocking gop bill fear shutdown politics have changed. house speaker mike johnson. >> we passed a clean, simple bill to keep the government funded for the rest of the year and every democrat in spite of all their previous sayings how disastrous it would be to shut the government down, they all voted to do exactly that. now the ball is sent over to the senate and chuck schumer has a big decision to make. will he cast a vote to keep the government open or blamed for shutting it down? and that's clearly very simply what they have to decide. i hope they do the right thing. they've said it a thousand times. a government shutdown is harmful for everybody. we don't need that. >> harris: democrats have never

been afraid to call out how harmful a shutdown can be when it suits them politically. >> there are real consequences when the government shuts down. it harms our national security. >> we all show a shutdown is unnecessary and completely avoidable. >> it is not normal to hold 800,000 workers paychecks hostage. it is not normal to shut down the government when we don't get what we want. >> our troops deserve better. our children deserve better. the american people deserve better. >> these chaos agents don't have a plan b. they want to see everything burn. >> shutdown is really extremist policy designed to appeal to an extremist base. >> this shutdown. you know who it hurts? you. >> harris: well, it is older video. they aren't cusseding at us as you've seen lately.

congress has until friday. congressman andy biggs, from arizona, member of the house judiciary and oversight committees is in "focus" now. you got it done in the house. now in the senate. what are you hearing on the hill? >> we're hearing it will pass out of the senate. they won't like it but they also don't want the shutdown that they have decried all this time. i think that it will happen fairly quickly. and then they will go home and rest up for more activities ahead, i guess. >> harris: more activities. okay. are we talking reconciliation and that's where the tax cuts potentially from 2017 that president trump put in place, that's how you will save them. now correct me if i'm wrong, you won't need 60 votes for that. you should be able to get that done without the democrats. >> that's exact will i right. that's why you do a reconciliation. each side when you have the three organizations, the three

bodies, you always use reconciliation, you can get around the 60-vote filibuster rule. >> harris: excellent. republican congressman was initially a hold-out. we know that. but ultimately he voted yes. he unloaded on a liberal media anchor for what he said is false and misleading coverage of spending at the department of government efficiency. watch. spending cuts. >> they are people interested in being fiscally conservative. >> why don't they embrace the idea of exposing these things? why do they want to demonize trump and elon musk? it is ridiculous. look at the math. if elon musk says he thinks he can find a trillion dollars worth of waste, abuse and fraud why not let him see if he can find it? what does it hurt? >> i'm trying to do math with you. >> you don't support one cut in any of this stuff. you are trying to use the lowest

denominator trying to scare the most people to drive the train against trump and it is not working. the american people are not buying it and you all have made a huge error in this. >> harris: the without rapid response team put out the fact check. bloomberg news posted elon musk called entitlement spending including security and medicare key targets for cuts which contradicts trump's pledge not to touch those programs. what do you say to that? >> you aren't seeing anybody touch social security and medicare. the reality is that means we probably won't even get to exposing the fraud which has been estimated to be about 20% of payments. think about this, too, harris. when you start looking at fake ages, you have thousands of people over age 100, where is that money going to? who is getting that money? money is getting paid out. that's fraud, that's waste and that needs to stop. and it actually puts the whole

system in jeopardy. but instead of actually focusing on where you can actually fix things, my democrat friends, the left is saying you can't go anywhere near anything even if it's fraudulent, wasteful, needs to be fixed. they don't want to fix it to save the program. >> harris: interesting. what is so important, too, that i hear you saying, you want to take a look at everything. the i.r.s. can audit us for anything at any moment. they can look at our stuff. why can't we look at the stuff that everybody has that are taxpayer dollars are going to? >> exactly right. everything needs to be transparent. we need to see it. a lot of states put down every line item that they spend online. the federal government needs to be doing that with all of their agencies. we all need to know what's happening because when you run a 2.25 trillion structural deficit every year, harris, that means the americans are paying a lot of taxes and we are oh he seeing

a lot more money go out. we need to find out where it is going and see if we can fix that. >> harris: we are saddling our children's, children's children. everybody out to be on board. we'll see what happens next. another win for president trump after ukraine accepted an outline for a peace deal. now can the u.s. get vladimir putin, president of russia, on board? plus a major step toward president trump's promise to shutter the education department and find something that works better for our kids in schools. republican senator jim banks. >> president trump and secretary mcmahon are dropping the people's elbow on the bureaucracy at the federal department of education. sending these dollars back to the states so that they can spend them in a much wiser and more effective way than the federal government can. >> harris: education secretary

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>> it was the president's mandate directed to me. clearly is to shut down the department of education, which we know we'll have to work with congress to get that accomplished. what we did today was to take the first step of eliminating what i think is bureaucratic bloat. >> harris: that's education secretary linda mcmahon on the trump administration's moves to put children's education in the hands of the states. yesterday the department said it

would lay off more than 1,300 employees, nearly half of its workforce. employees were told the agency's washington, d.c. offices were closed today for security reasons. some of those are layoffs, some are those are people leaving on their own, and some of them are actual dismissals to break down that number. this has been a goal for republicans for decades. remember, former president ronald reagan said this during his state of the union speech in 1982. >> the budget plan i submit to you on february 8th will realize major savings by dismantling the departments of energy and education, and by eliminating ineffective subsidies for business. we'll continue to redirect our resources to our two highest budget priorities, a strong national defense to keep america free and at peace. and a reliable safety net of social programs for those who have contributed and those who

are in need. >> harris: "focus" now steve hilton fox news contributor. i think they are feigning ignorance and faking it when democrats say we've never heard this and it won't work. it has been a goal. >> exactly. that's the first big point here. republicans have been talking about this for so long. they've been talking about it for so long and no one has ever done it. it shows the scale of ambition of this amazing presidency already. so remarkable. the business-like hustle of the trump presidency. it reminds me in a way of the same kind of attitude in relation to the judges, justices as they -- that he appointed to the supreme court to deliver a goal on life that republicans have been talking about for decades. but it was donald trump who got it delivered. the second point, harris, why stop at the department of education? it is such an issue with over

centralization in our government. so many things. the 10th amendment is clear, the powers that are not explicitly in the constitution should i'm quoting now should be reserved to the states or to the people. i would go through all of these other departments, housing and urban development. why is that being done in washington rather than at the state level? welfare and healthcare, so many things i think need to be looked at for decentralization. this is a fantastic start. >> harris: you have taken a look at this closely. a question about how i actually works. my understanding when you do things. i love the way you put that over centralized top down level. when you do it that way there is no way people in washington know the people in your neighborhood. >> exactly. >> harris: doesn't it make everything more expensive and slow to get things done? >> exactly. and wrong. as exactly as you say they don't understand the needs. there is a real intellectual

basis. an amazing book that was the foundation of the modern free market movement by an author in the 1940s called "the road to surf dome." in in order to win the central world war ii. if we weren't careful it would end up enslaving people and you need to decentralize power. that was the foundation of the modern free market movement. ist is as true today. we have become so overcentralized in washington. in a way worse than what you see in europe with the european union taking away powers from the member states which was the reason for brexit. i think we need that kind of attitude here. i love the fact that it is happening finally with the department of education. i wouldn't stop there. >> harris: all right. let's not stop here and go forward. ukraine has accepted the trump administration's framework for a peace deal that happened yesterday after hours of talks

on this. those talks mark the first high-level meeting between the united states and ukraine since the last oval office dust-up between the president's trump and zelenskyy. it is now up to russian president vladimir putin, who invaded ukraine, to accept the terms or not. and you put it so well. you said that trump approaches things with a business-like hustle and that's exactly what is happening here. he is in the middle trying to do this deal. ukraine agreed to a 30 day cease-fire. given that acceptance the u.s. will lift its pause on intelligence sharing with ukraine and resume security assistance. secretary of state markio rubio. >> the united states has done a good thing for the world and bringing this process forward and now we are eagerly awaiting the russian response and urge them strongly to consider ending all hostilities so people will

stop dying, so bullets will stop flying and so a process can begin to find a permanent peace. >> harris: more than three years of war since putin invaded ukraine. dan hoffman, former c.i.a. chief who served in moscow. >> russia could have stopped the war at any time. remember, they were the aggressor. they invaded ukraine and their objective was to topple the government in kiev and install their own regime. i think the president is right in saying look, this is your chance, russia, last best chance or else we will increase our support to ukraine. the president was pretty clear about that. we'll have to see how putin responds. >> harris: steve, i quoted you again. business-like hustle is part of this deal. what do you foresee in the next 48 hours? >> progress. we have already seen progress. i don't know if we'll get to the end of the process but we're moving forward. this is the crucial point again about president trump.

the pace and transparency. you are seeing moves made in these negotiations that with a normal president using the normal diplomatic establishment may take six months. let's have conferences and committees and decide whether we impose a pause on the arm sales and lift it and all that. this is happening in hours. president trump has fingertip control of this process. he knows where he wants to get and he is leading the negotiations. so all the bureaucrats and diplomats are having to follow in his wake and why things are happening so quickly and also why we shouldn't judge in the middle of the process and so when everyone said after the oval office meeting that's the end of that. no, it was the beginning, the forcing function that prompted this. we need to wait until we get to the end. it might be quicker than people think. >> harris: you said graciously six months it could take. it has been three years. what were they doing for the last three years under biden?

they weren't this close. they were never anything. they weren't talking about this kind of stuff bringing the war to an end. if they were they weren't transparent, that's for certain. >> exactly right. there was no effort. you have this ridiculous situation where they just -- it was a forced stalemate because of the u.s. position. >> harris: a lot of people dying. on both sides. >> president trump saying there is no endgame. only president trump who has an endgame. that endgame is peace. >> harris: steve hilton. great to have you in "focus" always. thank you. moments from now lawyers for anti-israel protest leader khalil will fight for his release at a hearing in we're seeing additional protestors showing up. live on the left side of your screen. they are protesting the arrest and his possible deportation. the white house says kicking him out of the nation is absolutely

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>> harris: our drone pilot is flying catching the crowd we knew would grow larger in support of a man inside the courthouse in new york city right now. his hearing has just begun. it's for anti-israel protest ringleader khalil. the columbia university graduate who was detained by ice. homeland security said he supports terrorists and led activities aligned to hamas.

president trump made his stance crystal clear. >> president trump: i think we ought to get them all of the country. they're troublemakers and agitators. they don't love our country. get him the hell out. i heard his statements. we know -- need to get him the hell out of the country. >> the fate of khalil in the hands of federal court judge jesse fuhrman. behind me to decide whether or no tea the leader of the protests at columbia could be kicked out of the country and across the street several hundred supporters are gathered loudly making their views known. >> i want to welcome rabbi abby stein. [applause] >> chanting shut it down. evolution.

supporting khalil from syria a legal permanent resident with a green card, married to an american citizen. the trump administration wants him deported. he was arrested by ice at his apartment saturday night. sent to a federal immigration detention facility in louisiana. deemed by secretary of state marco rubio as someone adverse to the foreign policy interests of our country. the government says he is aligned with hamas. under the law rubio has every right to kick him out. >> when you apply for student visa or any visa to enter the united states we have a right to deny you for any reason. i think being a supporter of hamas and coming into our universities and turning them upside down and being complicit in what are clearly crimes. >> some of khalil's supporters lined up to go into court this morning, as you can see they were hiding faces and masks.

his lawyers say he is being targeted by trump to clamp down on lawful dissent violating the first amendment, they say. they are calling for him to be freed and allowed to stay in the country. the judge does have the ability to release khalil. if it happens. we don't expect it to happen today. the hearing underway right now. there will be an immigration hearing separately in louisiana for khalil where he is believed to still be in that detention center in louisiana, not here in court. we'll see what happens at the conclusion of the arguments inside. outside they say they want to shut everything down if they don't get their way. harris, back to you. >> harris: eric shawn. thank you. the trump administration says the arrest of this kind is just the first to come. the white house states this deportation is the law of the land in black and white. >> secretary rubio reserves the

right to revoke the visa of khalil and glad you brought this up. under the immigration and act the secretary of state has the right to revoke a green card or visa for individuals who serve -- adversarial to the foreign policy and national security interests of the united states of america. >> harris: i wanted you to see the exact wording of that provision. here it is on your screen. section 237a4 codified in eight u.s. code is 1227. an alien who presence or activities in the united states, the secretary of state has reasonable grounds to believe would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the u.s. is deportable. power panel now, kerri urbahn, chief legal editor. jonathan turley from george washington university law professor and author and andy

mccarthy. former assistant u.s. attorney. you have an op-ed out today, andy. does the constitution really protect columbia agitator khalil from deportation? what did you find >> spoiler alert, no. look, i think that we often -- this was my experience as a terrorism prosecutor in the 90s. we talk about these issues, the framing of them is in these lofty constitutional rights and interests. we talk about free speech, we talk about free association. when you get down to brass tacks where we talk about evidence, it is very rare these cases actually turn out to be purely about free speech or free association. those are not bases to punish anybody in the united states. if you are saying to somebody

this nice ivy league school you have. be ashamed anything happens to it that is not free speech, that's extortion. you have to look at the way this plays out. if it's evidence of support of criminal activity, you can boot somebody. >> harris: i want to get to this. senator ted cruz from texas made this argument about it. because this person khalil has a green card and also a visa at one point, a student visa at one point. >> if you are here on a student visa not an american citizen, that individual is wrong the first amendment does not protect your right. coming to this country on a visa is a permissive matter, a matter of grace and we're not going to bring in people who hate america or bring in people who terrorize their fellow students and attack jewish students and threaten jewish students and burn american flags. we have no obligation to let people in who hate this country. >> harris: you have no obligation to keep them here.

that's the point of all of this. new opinion piece titled it's absolutely legal for trump to kick out pro-hamas protestors and it makes this argument. the government can't send non-citizens to jail it should deny or pull visas for those who advocate for causes against the united states. jonathan, i come to you. >> i think it is important for us not to allow the rhetoric to sweep too broadly. there are free speech issues here, legitimate ones. people are allowed to protest for palestinian. what they aren't allowed to do is engage in trespass and property damage and threatening behavior. the government has the advantage here under 12.27 determination by secretary rubio. it gives a lot of room at the elbows for the government. it is a reasonable basis of a potential adverse consequence for the united states.

that's a very forgiving stand arpd and reflects the fact that courts defer to the government in making these determinations. it doesn't mean we should discard free speech implications in other cases but there is a reason why they start evidence with this one and see what evidence they put forward. the government clearly has the advantage here. >> harris: you know, i want to talk about something that has come up and i don't know if we have the time to read all of this but the columbia spectator obtained an email from barnard college that affirmed ice cannot enter campus without a warrant after the detention of khalil at his university-owned residence over the weekend. kerri, depending where you pick people up they may not let you go back to where they need to know you need to pick people up? is that keeping police from doing what they need to do? >> the fourth amount protects. but there are other

circumstances. of a private university, general counsel could sign off or something in plain view. those same exceptions would apply to ice as law enforcement. one point i want to make going back to andy mccarthy's piece, an excellent piece what he talked about this being extortion. not a lot of conversation given to the fact that this individual has been designated as the negotiator for the students. excuse me, negotiator for what? he is not an american citizen. an alien. on an american campus. has been on american campuses, world renowned one at that. certainly until of late. pressuring that university into adopting a sympathetic posture towards a terrorist organization which is completely at odds with our foreign policy approach to the middle east where israel is our number one ally. and doing so by some unlawful means including trespassing and

vandalism. the government has a lot to work with. a strong argument when they say this particular person under the law whose presence and activities are creating a problem for foreign policy and national security. >> harris: to further your point cbs news reported he had become one of those visible faces, exactly what you are talking about, one of the most visible faces of the pro-palestinian movement at columbia as students were erecting tents on campus last spring, khalil was chosen to serve as the negotiator on behalf of students and frequently met with university administrators. he was representing all these protestors with the university. so much more to get to. i appreciate you all. thank you. >> thanks, harris. >> thank you. >> harris: canada and the european union striking back today as president trump's tariffs aimed at boosting our

economy go into effect. howard lutnick, commerce secretary. >> when you are negotiating with someone and they aren't paying attention and disagreeing the president, who is the the best deal maker ever to sit in that chair, will say here is my response. then all of a sudden shockingly they respond. >> harris: some american companies are applauding president trump's trade moves. why they are saying certain tariffs will help our u.s. industry. i can't wait for this next guest. fox business correspondent charlie gasparino in "focus" next in person. and when the stock market crashes and it does from time to time, our clients are protected against losses. literally, they go up with the market, lock in their gains, and when the market goes down, they don't lose anything. we keep it simple. our clients earn in a reasonable rate of return and they don't lose money. if you have at least $100,000 to invest, get your investor's guide

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>> today i am announcing that the government of canada, following a dollar for dollar approach, will be imposing, as of 12:01:00 a.m. tomorrow, march 13th, 2025, 25% reciprocal tariffs on an additional $29.8 billion of imports from the united states. >> harris: so you heard it. canada just announcing retaliatory tariffs on the united states just hours ago president trump's 25% tariff on canadian steel and aluminum went

into effect. so they are feeling it. some american companies say trump's tariffs will be good for our business. one of them century aluminum. america's largest producer of the metal. mike tobin is in kentucky with an exclusive look at century. mike. >> harris, this is where this trade conflict with canada hits home. as you mentioned century aluminum in kentucky one of four smelters left in the united states in the shrinking industry. the largest smelter left in the united states. the place here is where the process begins. a fascinating one. giant ovens are called pods. law materials go to there. to simplify things the whole thing gets a massive electric shock. the oxygen you don't want gets burned off. what is left behind is monthly ten aluminum. a key expense is electricity. coe of century says the canadian government subsidizes their

smelters to undercut the u.s. if price. currently they sell five times as much aluminum as we make domestically. but he says tariffs can change that. >> with the president's actions today, you are going to see a return to no exceptions, no exceptions and we think the tariff will be effective again and you will see a response from the u.s. industry again. we'll build a new smelter and bring the new jobs here at home and let president trump and others worry about the diplomacy. >> that new smelter could create 1,000 new jobs but it will consume as much electricity according to industry experts as the city of cleveland. harris. >> harris: wow, impressive. great exclusive look, mike, thank you. charlie gasparino, fox business correspondent. let's first of all just give me a top line view of where we are with the tariffs now? >> playing a game of chicken

globally. is this something that president trump is willing to stick out? it will get messy if you really play the long game on tariffs. if you want to win you have to play the long game. >> harris: messy, what do we feel as the american public >> look at the stock market. if we tariff them. that makes our goods cheaper here but if they tariff us that means our aluminum companies can't sell as well overseas. that means their profits go down and means they lay people off, that means the economy goes down. the markets are signaling if you look at the ten year bond, recession, no doubt about that. but they are pricing it in. it doesn't mean it will happen. >> harris: all right. so what does this mean in terms of how long we are? we saw inflation dip a little bit. still 2.8 but going down. >> that's good. >> harris: i want to know what the american public can expect? >> inflation is dipping down because of an economic slowdown.

i will say this. i was always a free trader my entire life. always been against tariff. i look at some of the situation. donald trump is right. these countries all screw us. 15 different ways from sunday. no doubt. particularly mexico and canada which is galling. we protect them. they are under our nuclear shield. you would think they would should a little deference to us. they don't. he wants to equalize that. getting there, given the way the global trade just parameters set globally will be messy. it will take a degree of intestinal fortitude. >> harris: how long? >> everybody asks me this. six minutes or six months. you could get -- here is the the thing. you can get six months of bad economic data and markets going down. remember that. that's the type of game of chicken. >> harris: do we have the resilience to snap back quickly? i want to get to china.

>> after six months, after six weeks yeah. we price in changes in fiscal policy immediately. it is not pricing in trump's tax cuts which will be good. >> harris: we're in reconciliation and republicans can do that on their own. they don't need votes from democrats. we have to be fast here. china and its tariffs on canada and all the other stuff. you can't look at us like we are china. >> that's what i'm saying. the playing field is so skewed against us. not just about canada. in order to do business in china you have to give them intellectual secrets or they take it. it is a swap to get into their market. but to unwind us from canada. think about this. elon musk, does that mean he whats to take all his factories out of canada? look at the price of tesla. down i don't know 10% over the past month. not good. >> harris: great to see you. can't wait until you come back. "outnumbered" after the break.

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