an important role in the peace process. [indistinct] >> president trump: ? what? what are they boycotting? >> reporter: gaza -- >> president trump: i haven't heard that. >> to the president on the peace initiatives, the one thing we have learned in ireland about the peace process that you have just spoken about and i recall it back in the early '90s, when the first tentative steps to get peace in ireland, people criticized people like johnny hume or people like alvin reynolds, but they kept going. and we got that ceasefire, it took time to get the peace settlement but the guns went silent. the war in ukraine is a devastating war on young people, and i think that very simple,

straightforward narrative is to be commended, and we all have children. shocked at the prospect of young people losing their lives in that number. ukraine, russian, whatever. anything we can do to stop the violence i think is an extremely positive thing. there will be all sorts of people having qualifications. it is our job to work on it and the u.s. >> president trump: i will say -- thank you for that, but i will say last week, 2,500 young people died while we sit here and talk. and while they talk about peace but they have been talking about peace, this should have never happened, this war should've never happened, it would have never happened if i was president. that's what makes me more angry than anything else because you have had far more people die than they report. then these people report, for whatever reason, but yet far more people, the numbers are far more devastating. you'll find that out someday.

and it doesn't affect you very much. they are not irish. and they are not from my country. they are from russia mostly come almost all from russia, and from ukraine, and people say why are you doing this? why are you involved in that? 2,000 people a week are dying. they have families and mothers and fathers and sisters and brothers and friends. and they are dying. i have seen the satellite pictures that we see all the time, and it looks like gettysburg in its prime. because that was they say one of the most horrific battles ever. you have kids lying all over these fields that are dead because the weapons today are unbelievable, between drones and various types of guns come i'm not even talking about beyond that with the big babies, you understand, i hate to even mention their name, the nuclear name, i hate to mention it, but

you have weapons today that are so powerful, and i see kids every week, pictures of kids laying all over the field dead. they are dead. beautiful kids. they are dead. and they are not from here and they are not from where you are, but he's working -- we are all working hard to get this thing finished. it's crazy. over nothing. and is not going to go anywhere. it's just a terrible situation. and i think we have a chance to get it done. we have gotten half of it as a cease-fire and if we can get russia to stop, then we have a full cease-fire, and i think it will never go back to war. [overlapping questions] >> reporter: relationship with israel, there has been a lot of talk in government, the occupied territories bill which would ban from occupied territories. i know you met with

prime minister recently, concerns -- >> president trump: you are not from israel, that is for sure. she is definitely not from israel. that's an interesting question coming from you. we talk about everything. israel has been under seizure, as you can seek him and they had to fight back, october 7th was a terrible thing. people don't like to mention it but it was a terrible thing in the life of the world. and it's amazing the way people don't mention that but it was -- i've never seen anything like it. those are other clips i get to see. you know, as president you get to see clips that you would rather not see, but i see clips, and that was a terrible day for the world. we are working hard with israel. we are working hard to see if we can solve the problem. i will say, i just saw ten hostages and they were treated really badly. i was shocked. i asked them, was there any kindness shown? one was in there for 500 days, one was 323 days, i said -- ten

of them -- i said was there any kindness displayed? to the ever say don't worry, you'll be okay? or give you a little wink? give you an extra slice of bread or something? and everybody said all of these people said zero. it was hatred. it was pure hatred. i mean, that's a very deep-seated problem. [overlapping questions] >> reporter: ireland is in the midst of a housing crisis and i know you have experienced this, how can the states build tens of thousands of houses? >> president trump: you know what they have a housing crisis? because they are doing so well. they can't produce houses asked enough. that's a good problem. >> prime minister martin: that's a pretty good answer, mr. president. [overlapping questions] >> president trump: everybody should have that problem, that's okay. i know this gentleman. he will get it solved. >> reporter: will you respond

to their retaliation? >> president trump: of course am going to respond. >> reporter: he will retaliate? >> president trump: the problem is our country didn't respond. look, the e.u. was set up in order to take advantage of the united states. >> reporter: including ireland? is ireland taking advantage of the u.s.? >> president trump: of course they are. i have great respect for ireland and what they did, and they should have done just what they did. but the united states shouldn't have let it happen. we had stupid leaders. we had leaders that didn't have a clue. or let's say they weren't business people but they didn't have a clue what was happening, and all of a sudden ireland has our pharmaceutical companies. this beautiful island -- it's island -- of 5 million people? it's got the entire u.s. pharmaceutical industry in its grasp, and you mentioned housing, and you mentioned other things, i have property in ireland, as you know, and i love it, it is great. but i'd like to have -- i'd like to see the united states not have been so stupid for so many

years. not just with ireland, with everybody. you know, i look at trade deals. i was telling the group yesterday, i looked at trade deals in term one. it is one of the reasons i decided i had to do this because somebody had to straighten it out and i didn't see anybody that was going to. i looked at trade deals that were so bad i'd actually say how is it possible that this could have happened? who would have been so stupid to let these deals happen? for instance, when the pharmaceutical companies started to go to ireland, i would have said that's okay if you want to go to ireland, i think it's great, if you want to sell anything into the united states, i'm going to put a 200% tariff on you. so you are never going to be able to sell anything into the united states. you know what they would have done? they would have stayed here. he is so lucky -- [overlapping questions] >> reporter: corporate taxes

to match ireland? >> president trump: we are planning to lower taxes. with the democrats behave. but the democrats have no clue. you saw that the other night during the speech. two young women were slaughtered by illegal aliens. one young man had very serious cancer. and many other problems. when you look at the people up there, they all had difficulty, very serious difficulty, but when we are talking about two young girls, beautiful young girls, laken riley, you know the whole -- the whole story that evening was a disaster for the democrats, in my opinion. i would mention -- and i'd see two mothers that were inconsolable. as they stood. crying. their daughters have been absolutely just destroyed, killed, viciously killed, and the young man who loves the police departments, he had cancer and has cancer, very bad cancer. there wasn't -- from people

sitting there, democrats, there wasn't a hand clap. nobody stood. they were just stone-faced. these people are sick. there is something wrong with them. there was no standing for anybody. the only thing they liked is when they heard about the death taking place with ukraine. they were happy about that. they were happy about that. pocahontas was very happy. she is the one that was clapping. i looked at her, oh, it's pocahontas. these people are sick. they don't know what is happening in the real world. the democrats have to get their act together. and if they don't vote, then what you are going to do is you are going to attack taxes that are going through the roof. you are going to have a very bad time. you are going to have some very bad things happen and people are going to blame the democrats and schumer is a palestinian as far as i am concerned. he has become a palestinian. he used to be jewish. he is not jewish anymore. he is a palestinian. okay. [overlapping questions] >> reporter: a lot of on and

off, some inconsistency -- >> president trump: there is no inconsistency. only with nbc. which is one of the worst networks on television, by the way. let me just tell you the inconsistency. i have the right, i have the right to adjust -- and i was called by the automakers, as an example, general motors, ford, et cetera, the big three, the big four, and they asked me to do them a favor. could i delay it for a period of four weeks? so that they are not driven into a little bit of a disaster for them? they actually love what i am doing, but they had a problem. and i am not like a block adjust, i won't delay. it's called flexibility. it is not called inconsistency. it is called flexibility. you want me to be flexible, too. >> reporter: 's flexibility going to be your ongoing -- >> president trump: i will always have flexibility. but there will be very little flexibility once we start.

april 2nd is going to be a very big day for the united states of america. the united states of america is going to take back a lot of what was stolen from it by other countries, and by frankly incompetent u.s. leadership. grossly incompetent. i gave you an example of ireland. i would have never let that happen. impossible for that to have happened. we are going to take back our wealth and take back a lot of the companies -- coming back, you haven't read, we have the biggest computer chip company ever, ever, virtually all of the market. i didn't call them, they called me, and they called for two reasons. number one, we had a great election of someone they want running the country. we ran in a big mandate, every swing state, won by millions of votes. we won by 2,750 districts to 500. 2,750 districts. that is why thwhen you

looked at it was entirely red, meaning republican. not meaning communist. so anyway. this country needed somebody to defend it. it is this big, beautiful place that was being ripped off by illegal immigrants coming in from prisons, coming in from mental institutions. gang members, gang leaders, drug dealers. pouring into our country with the open borders. i am so angry at the last four years and what they have done to our country, what they have done to this country, between inflation, but may be most that bothers me is they would allow millions of people to come into our country that are stone cold murderers, killers, drug dealers, the worst -- gang members -- the worst people allowed into our country, and we are now getting them out. we are getting them out. i want to thank tom homan, by the way, doing a great job and kristi noem, who is doing a

fantastic job. this should have never happened. so we are bringing back our country come in many ways, not only financially. financially we will be stronger than ever before. i think the markets are going to soar when they see what's happening. i am called every day by numerous big, big companies. i spoke at the business roundtable yesterday. they had the largest attendance they have ever had. these are only the ceos and chairman, but mostly the people that run, the boss, the people who run the top 150 companies. 150 people showed up. every single company showed up, first time it ever happened, it has been around a long time, the biggest business leaders. we had a great discussion, went really well, and i want to tell you that there is tremendous optimism out there about our country come in terms of regulations being cut, in terms of taxes being cut, and it would be great if the democrats would do what is right. it would be great if the

democrats would do what is right for our country for a change because they really are, they have lost their way. they have lost their way. they think people pouring into our country from prisons, jails, murderers, we have 11,088 murderers that were allowed into dutch people that murdered people. half of which murdered more than one person. we are getting them the hell out peered but who would run it? who would allow it to happen? who would allow men to play in women sports. they are still fighting it. it's got to be a 95% issue. television this morning, this person come a democrat said we should have the right -- no, no, men should not be -- they are hurting women. they are hurting women. very badly. they are hurting women. they are also demeaning women. but who would want these things? everything is transgender. everybody transgender, that is all you hear about.

that is why we won the election in record numbers. very importantly now, it is what it is, the democrats should get with us and come up with good tax policy so that ireland and other countries can't take our businesses away from us. he understands exactly, you guys did the right thing, i'm not upset with you. i respect what you have done. you've done a great job. our people -- our people did a very bad job. [overlapping questions] >> reporter: how advanced are your plans to try to bring some of those companies back to america? >> president trump: i would love to have them back. might not love to have the back, he will be fighting -- >> prime minister martin: i will say, mr. president, just make a point, it is a two-way street. we are investing a lot more in america and people may not realize, one of our biggest airlines, for example, the twotg airplanes than anybody else --

>> president trump: that's good. >> prime minister martin: a little known fact. turn in statistics but -- and there is a lot of irish companies, 700 irish companies based in america. a lot of them creating thousands of jobs in america. and it's only fair, that's correct. >> president trump: that's right. >> prime minister martin: that's the way should happen at a think it is a very good relationship we have. it is a historic one and it has happened over time. we have added value to american companies. we have increased our value and access to america. i understand where you are coming from fully. but i think it is a relationship that we can develop and that will endure into the future, and it will change with the times -- >> president trump: that is true. and they have done a very good job. i just will say this. but with all that we have said, we can talk about ryanair, there is a massive deficit.

i don't mean by a little bit. there is a massive deficit that we have with ireland. and with other countries, too. we want to sort of even that out we are going to work together great. the deficit is massive. [overlapping questions] wait until you hear this one. >> reporter: you said earlier it was up to russia for a cease-fire, anything you can do in terms of pressuring russia? >> president trump: we can, but i hope it is not going to be necessary. sure, we can pressure. we can do that with russia. remember this. russia took georgia from bush. they took crimea from a man named obama peered barack hussein obama, right? they are trying to take the whole thing from biden. they are going for the whole ball of wax. who is the only one they never took anything from? trump. and in fact, i'm the one that

stopped nord stream 2, the pipeline, the biggest pipeline anywhere in the world, i stopped it. it was dead and then biden got in -- nobody engines that. what i did to russia was very tough. i was the toughest ever. but they never took anything from me. they took from obama and bush and they took it from sleepy joe biden. with biden, they wanted to take the whole country, but i think i have stopped that but we will see. there are things you can do that wouldn't be pleasant in a financial sense. i can do things financially that will be very bad for russia. i don't want to do that because i want to get peace. i want to see peace. and we will see. but in a financial sense, yeah, we could do things very bad for russia, it would be devastate for russia, but i don't want to do that because i want to see peace. and we are getting close to may be getting something done. we've got ukraine done. i've always said ukraine might have been the more difficult party. you saw, you were here he week

ago when some interesting things happened. i had somebody that didn't seem to want peace. now he has agreed to peace. so we will see what happens. [overlapping questions] brian? >> reporter: thanks. >> president trump: thank you. >> reporter: first of all congratulate you on lower inflation -- >> president trump: thank you. putter gas prices going down, airline prices going down. if i could see real quickly, welcome to the united states, you look great. >> prime minister martin: thank you. [laughter] what's coming next? >> reporter: make america great again. if you could make ireland great again, what would your number one issue be for people in ireland right now to make your country stronger? and i've got a two-part question to that, as well. >> prime minister martin: the number one issue in ireland is housing. to be honest, i think it was crackly pointed out, we to build more houses, build them

faster to give the young people of ireland the opportunity to afford to buy a house or afford to rent a house. we have a lot of good things happening. that's my number one priority. >> reporter: ireland is known for a very happy fun-loving people, many in this room right now. why in the world would you let rosie o'donnell moved to ireland? i think she is going to lower your happiness level periods. >> president trump: thank you, like that question. do you know you rosie o'donnell? do you know she is? do you know? you you are better off. you are better off not knowing. [overlapping questions] >> reporter: are you expecting to inform the president your views on gaza considering -- palestine come your country is s palestine come are you expected to discuss this with the president, utz putting to inform him? >> prime minister martin: i don't have to inform the

president, he is very well tuned into the situation. we share an unrelenting focus on peace. and as soon as he came into office went to get a cease-fire. we happen calling for a cease-fire for a long time. we want to consolidate peace. that is our fundamental. we want the hostages out. i have been saying it from day one. it's a perfect thing to do to take someone is a hostage. and i went after october 7th, in solidarity with israel, and i went a week or two afterwards. i saw the kibbutz, shocking thing to see even a week or two after the horror. it was a village, you could see life going on prior to the attack. it was something that will not leave me. and so -- and i've been interested in the middle east for a long, long time. it's complex. and it's all of that. but we do desperately need the hostages out, all of them. and then we need a cease-fire peered we need to consolidate that. we need a surge of humanitarian

aid into gaza peered again, too many children and too many people. and it's humanitarian inputs is what motivates the irish in respect. and i have always been of the view, it's been our view that a two-state solution would be ideal. it's become much more challenging, but that has always been our position. because we've gone through this. we've discussed this prior to you coming in. we've been through some of this. people hating each other. terrible acts of violence carried out on each other. we came through it. it's our hope that arab and jewish people can live side-by-side. parents of children who were killed on both sides. and they worked to try and bring people together. it's difficult work. >> reporter: what about the president's plan to expel palestinians out of gaza? are you discussing that with him? >> president trump: nobody is extolling any palestinians. i don't know -- who are you

with? >> reporter: [indistinct] >> president trump: no wonder. >> reporter: how he feels about the president just saying he would like to take back u.s. companies, companies based in ireland? >> prime minister martin: i think the pharmaceutical companies in ireland are doing very well, as the president has outlined, and, you know, again come i think it is about that two-way partnership. i understand fully with the president is coming from. i think there is actually room we can discuss this. i think there is room for the companies to grow in america, and many have already announced fairly significant manufacturing announcements -- >> president trump: that's true. >> prime minister martin: people like eli lilly, for example, who have a long-standing presence in ireland since 1970s, spoke to the ceo recently -- >> president trump: he's great. >> prime minister martin: he has announced 15 billion investment -- >> president trump: class. >> prime minister martin: ireland has served them well, too, the workforce is very strong. it's an educated workforce. they delivered well, covid-19, a

number of ceos said to me a lot of the plans and island were the only plans that never closed for a single day during covid. not a single day. [overlapping questions] >> reporter: thank you so much. you spoke for quite a while, so i want to know your assessment. will you take this deal to him now? how will you assess the challenges? >> president trump: i have no assessment and i don't go by chances. makes sense for russia. a lot of downsides for russia, we have a very complex situation solved on one side -- pretty much solved. we have also discussed land and other things that go with it. we are not just doing it and saying cease-fire. we don't know what's happening. we know the areas of land we are talking about. whether it is pull back or not pull back. we have discussed a lot of

details of what has to go because we don't want to be wasting time. we don't want to be wasting time while people are dying. i mean come as we are sitting here, you probably had two people die on that very open field. you know, it is dead flat. it is great farmland, and it is dead flat. there is no protection. the only thing that stops a bullet is a human body. and these are bodies that are young people. and they are stopping a lot of bullets because a lot of bullets are flying across those level fields. dead flat, no protection whatsoever. it is a disaster. so i hope -- i hope he is going to have a cease-fire. [overlapping questions] >> reporter: using american leverage to get a lot of -- >> president trump: i don't want to get into that but if i had to i am the only one who has dealt with him successfully. everyone else -- i went through it, bush didn't deal with him successfully come up dealt with him horribly. got ripped off.

obama was a disaster. what happened with obama, he gave them sheets, and i gave them antitank missiles. it's called javelin. you know the javelin? i'm the one that gave him the javelins. and then they say oh, trump has a great relationship with russia. i am the one that gave him the javelins. obama gave him sheets. that's an expression. he gave sheets, i gave javelins. kyiv >> reporter: your administration. >> president trump: i think the irish love trump. we won the irish with a true medicine out to vote. we won in the '80s with irish. i got the irish vote. i think i have it locked up pretty good unless i did something very stupid like drain your company, your wonderful place of all of its companies. if i drained ireland of all the companies, maybe i would lose

the irish vote, i don't know, but right now -- no, i love your -- i love it. i have been there many times, as you know. >> prime minister martin: yes. >> president trump: we don't want to do anything to ireland. we do want fairness. he understands that. [overlapping questions] >> reporter: markets -- >> president trump: that's enough, kelly. >> reporter: [indistinct] >> president trump: i can't hear. >> reporter: who is your favorite irish? >> sandra: my. >> president trump: are so many. are you kidding? i like your fighter. he's got the best tattoos of ever seen. i don't know. reporter matt conor mcgregor? >> president trump: great, right? talking about connor. we have a lot of great irish fighters, actually. i don't know what that is. ireland has always had a lot of good fighters. you know why? because they are tough people. there smart people, and they are passionate people. and they really have been come

over the years, so many. i think your father was a great fighter, wasn't he? >> prime minister martin: he was. >> president trump: look at you, you are so smooth. >> prime minister martin: very good defensive boxer. [laughter] he was a good boxer. fought for ireland. boxed for ireland. >> president trump: genetically. i'm not going mess around. okay, a couple of more from somebody that didn't ask a question. yeah, please come a go ahead. >> reporter: go back to the u.s.? >> president trump: who? >> presid >> reporter: appel. >> president trump: apple has been treated -- medically bad luck. they had a very bad lawsuit. >> prime minister martin: we fought with them. >> president trump: $16 billion. they were after a lot of our american companies. that is what is unfair. it's the european union. i'm not blaming you come i'm blaming the european union. the european union has gone after our companies. and apple is a great company and they had to give

$16,000,000,000.17 billion on a lawsuit that i didn't think was a good lawsuit. we have a problem with the european union. they don't take our farm products, they don't take our cars. we take millions of cars, bmws and verse mercedes-benz and volkswagen at everything, we take millions of cars. i said to angela merkel at the time, i said, angela, how many chevrolets do we have in the middle of munich? why, none. i said you are right. we have none. that is the way it is. we have none. no come i'm not happy with the european union come i want to tell you. we are going to win that financial battle. reporter make european cars? >> president trump: absolutely i will do that, yeah. they have millions of cars coming in, millions and millions of cars. one of probably the largest, japan is very big, too.

and they don't accept our cars. we make great cars. they don't have our cars but they have -- we have the greatest farmers in the world. they don't accept our farm products, and we accept theirs. things are going to change. unless they do what they have to do. and they know what they have to do. this is not going to be a tough battle. in my opinion not going to be tough. just like when ontario charged us, everybody oh, they just charge -- this will be won in one hour. and they announced what we were going to do. and they withdrew their little threat. and what they don't say in canada is 270% come have you ever heard that? we have tariffs on dairy products from canada, 270%, going up to 400%, you never hear that. canada is absolutely one of the worst. when i say worst, worst in terms of charging tariffs. the dairy products, they charge our armors 270% and 400%.

think of that for dairy products. and we charge them like peanuts. you know why? because we have been improperly run for so many years. i had that all settled in my first term. but then of course biden let everything go to hell. one of the things we did is we took from china hundreds of billions of dollars and i have great respect for president xi. he understood that. he understood it was a one-way street and you can't have a one-way street. one more question. >> reporter: [indiscernible] >> president trump: say it? >> reporter: what countries you might target in your ex travel ban? >> president trump: wouldn't that be a stupid thing for me to say? which country semi going to target for the next travel ban? >> reporter: going to put on ireland? >> president trump: we are going to be talking really to

the european union. i will tell you, we will end it with this. i have a property, a big property in ireland that you know well. one of the most highly rated hotels in all of europe. it is beautiful. beautiful 600 anchors on the ocean and everybody knows it. i was going to do a project there come a big expansion of the place, this was when i was a civilian, before the presidency, before i even thought about the presidency. i was going to do a really beautiful expansion because it does very well. and i got the approvals from ireland so quickly. they were so professional. they wanted it. you know, it is economic developments, jobs, construction jobs, big expansion, beautiful expansion. but i was told something that bothered me. they said, sir, you also have to get approved by the european union. i said why do i have to go to the year opinion union, to expand a hotel that is in ireland? they said that is the way it is.

i say, well, shouldn't that go fast? no commit you take it least seven years. you gave me the approval. in about four weeks. it was a beautiful, professional -- if you took four years, you wouldn't have done a better job. everything was done environmentally, there is no reason to take very long. i had everything from ireland in four weeks. and then they hired somebody, said the process will be from 5-7 years, and i said oh, really? and then i found out they weren't playing games. think about how bad that is for your country. so that was my first experience with the european union, and i dropped the project, i just that i'm not going to do that come i'm not going to go seven years to expand something. but i will handed to ireland, you were so professional, so good. i don't know why european union had to approve it, and with them, it was -- and that is the european union. it was a very bad experience.

>> prime minister martin: you have the distinction of being i think the only president that has physically invested in ireland. for doonbeg. >> president trump: and it has been a good investment. >> prime minister martin: anybody should go there, it is just stunning. even if you don't play golf, i mean, it is just stunning landscape. your people have resorted very well. and our people are going to continue to work with you on that piece. and effectively n. >> president trump: they have had great relationship. >> prime minister martin: local counselor texted me last week to say, tell president trump to thank his family for the way they have worked with the local community and for the work that they have done. [overlapping questions] >> president trump: i think he is great, a great golfer. he just won two weeks ago. he's a great guy. i played golf with him three weeks ago. and he's really a fantastic

player. he is in good form, too. when he played with me, he played very well, i can tell you. rory certainly is one of the favorites. he's always going to be one of the favorites come he's a talented guy, very good person. >> reporter: mr. president? >> president trump: sometime. if we meet, we will meet at doonbeg. i hope to be able to. >> reporter: does america have a future in nato? >> president trump: well, nato has to treat us fairly. if they pay their bills and do what they're supposed to do, when i first got involved with nato, they were not paying their bills. there were 28 countries, and most of them weren't paying, and i got them to pay, and they paid billions and billions of dollars, i made a certain statement that i'm not going to be involved in a nato unless you are going to pay your bills. and i was asked a question, if we don't pay, are you going to help us? i said no, if you don't pay -- say you are delinquent.

>> john: all right, so president trump together with the taoiseach of ireland micheal martin talking about a number of different things, everything from the fact that inflation is down, gas prices are down, as well as the price of eggs, to what is going to potentially happen with vladimir putin in relation to ukraine. >> sandra: sitting next to the irish prime minister. for more on this let's bring in retired navy captain and former pentagon official brent sadler. what did you take away from the president's threat that he could make things work worse for russia if they don't agree, what is left in the toolbox? >> well, what we are finally seeing, although it is not because it hasn't been applied is there is a lot of pressure that can still be put on russia that the biden team didn't use. one of those that came out at the last month or two was going after the russia dark fleet. unregistered, hard to track vessels that have been doing sanctions evasion by doing oil

transfers at sea to get money back to moscow. that is just one of many things. it is going to be necessary, as we have seen the violence on the battlefield actually escalate because of zelenskyy's mr. reed of president trump at the white house meeting, and now it looks like the pressure is shifting in a very visible way i think that might be necessary to get this negotiation going forward peered. >> john: steve witkoff is going to had to rush in the next eight or two, i believe, to talk directly with vladimir putin, here's what ukraine has agreed to, will you agree to it? the devil is in the details, the proof is in the pudding, whatever cliche you want to use, what do you inc. putin will stay? >> the most important thing is how much pressure and convincingly level of pressure so that when the u.s. team arrives in moscow or meets with the russians again that we have a very strong hand. and that is what is going to really convinced putin that now is the time to enter into negotiations. the words and rhetoric are fine.

the economic pressure takes too long before it is felt. but putin does know that when trump speaks and went trump signals an intent, he does act on it. trump did much the same thing in syria years ago when russian mercenaries got a little too close to our troops, and i think he understands that trump and his team is for action. >> jacqui: what do you think is the likely outcome to this meeting? generally we won't get a "no" or we won't get a "yes," we will get a may be if. what do you think is the most likely ask from russia? >> it could be a host of things, many of them unacceptable because really where we are at right now is still sensing out and setting the contours, not even the framework or some would call the guard rails or read minds. none of that. we are far too premature, just try to get a sense of where the equities are because there is not just one russian equity, multiple players, not just one ukrainian equity, multiples, not

just the president's office. there is a lot that is at stake and in a lot of different groups and interest that are at play here. sensing fat, setting the contours, but most importantly making sure the united states side of the table is the strongest one there to ensure a piece that is six acceptable for america's interet is achieved. >> john: read an interesting article today that putin wants to have a relationship of president trump, so we will see which he values more, territory in ukraine or the relationships with the president. things for jumping in. appreciate it. >> thank you very much. >> john: coming up next, bill bennetts on the president plans to try to close down the department of education. that is coming up next. saved hundreds by bundling our home and auto insurance. baby: liberty! biberty: hey kid, it's pronounced "biberty." baby: liberty! biberty: biberty! baby: liberty! biberty: biberty! baby: liberty! biberty: bi-be-rty! baby: biberty! biberty: and now she's mocking me. very mature. mom: hey, that's enough you two! biberty: hey, i'm not the one acting like a total baby.

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washington, so that the states can run education. linda mcmahon is a real professional. actually very sophisticated businessperson. she cut a large number but she kept the best people. and we will see how it all works out. >> john: the department of education set to lay off 1300 employees, a move that the new secretary of education linda mcmahon says is the first step towards shutting the department down -- excuse me -- altogether. let's bring in fox news contributor and former reagan education secretary bill bennett. so your former boss ronald reagan said in the 1980 campaign and again in the 1982 state of the union address that he wanted to shut down the department of education. he never did it, but i'm wondering is it finally time to put it out to pasture with the caveat come of course, that you can't shut it down without the cooperation of congress? >> that is correct, you need the congress. it was created by congress, and you need the congress. now, what she is doing come i

think it is fine, if indeed she is saving the best people. you know, most organizations, 30% worker bees and 70% drones. not the flying drones, the drones in the sense of bees, you remember those drones. the male bees who don't do much. i'm not saying that is the case in the department. interview people. don't use the chainsaw. use the scalpel, the pairing pairing knife, the scissors. interviewed 100 people a week my first few weeks, and we got rid of people that week. it is hard for me to believe that she knows who the best people are. it's right that you can probably get by with 20% of that staff, but you've got to carefully do it by going through whose working and who's not. >> john: here is what she said about the reduction in staff, "today's reduction in force reflects the department of education's commitment to efficiency, accountability, and ensuring that resources are directed where they matter most,

to students, parents, and teachers." it was pointed out earlier today on fox that a lot of staff members in the department of education make more with teachers who are on the front lines, so is that money better spent taking it ouf staffing salaries been throwing it out there to the states were the teachers can use it? >> i think a lot of the money can go to the states and most of the money does go to the states. only 10% of what we spend on education is from the federal government. but there are a couple of very important federal functions. i wrote about this with a colleague recently in an open letter to linda mcmahon. you've got to be able to assess how the country is doing, how the states are doing. the president has been citing these numbers, and you've got to get these numbers from somewhere. everybody knows about our reading and math scores, john, how far down they are. we know that because the national assessment of educational progress housed at the department of education tells us.

that is very important. then you want to send the money to the states, fine, but let's evaluate how states are doing. i had something called the wall chart and at the end of each year we took every state, put a chart up there and said how they were performing. they derided the wall chart and hated the wall chart, the statet assessment. give an honest assessment, block grant the money out, who thrives and who doesn't, and then let's take the best practices, the states that thrive, and to give those practices to other states to imitate. >> john: you know, bill, it's almost like you were reading my mind because here's with the national assessment of progress found in 2024. that among fourth-graders, only 39% of them were proficient in math. eighth graders 28% of them were proficient in math. in reading, fourth-graders 31% were proficient, eighth grade it declined to 30% proficiency in english. we spend more per student, as

the president has pointed out, then all but four countries, yet we rank 31st in outcomes. we should be top-five at least if not number one. >> and we can be. notice the progression is downward. the longer you stay in school in america, the dumber you get. that shouldn't be -- think of what happens in college, god knows. that absolutely shouldn't be happening. but we do have examples of success, john. we do have some idea of what works. we do know how to teach reading, for example. a lot of people are doing it the wrong way still. we do know how to teach math. let's get those best practices up there for everyone to see. but meantime, education is inthe states. there is a big revolution out there because now you are at a tipping point. almost 50% of the states -- more than 50% of the states will soon be able to provide parents the opportunity to choose whatever schools they want their kids to

go to. that's a great opportunity. the schools have to respond by offering solid content. choice is good but it is not enough, content, solid content. >> john: well, ronald reagan couldn't shut down the department of education because democrats controlled congress through both of his terms. at least the house they controlled. the republicans had the house but the senate is quite another matter. mr. secretary, things for joining us come appreciate it. >> thank you very much. enjoyed being on with the other irishman. >> john: i'm scottish. [laughter] >> i meant the taoiseach. >> john: him, him, yes, of course. thank you, sir -- >> straight talk to the irishman. that's very interesting. >> john: i love it. appreciate it. jacqui. >> jacqui: thanks, guys. missing student in need to medicare public peered could new evidence help lift that veil? new at 2:00, the latest updates in the desperate search in

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>> jacqui: welcome back. president trump toppled down on tariffs, they are good for america, and some major u.s. companies agree. mike tobin is at an aluminum factory in kentucky. so this is where the trade dispute hit's home, mike. >> it really is the front line in this trade dispute. there were 20 aluminum smelters in the u.s. back in the year 2000. where i am now it's 1 of 4 remaining smelters in the united states, century aluminum in kentucky. it is the largest one remaining. what you are looking at is the second stage in the process. that big giant pot is called a crucible, and it is dumping molten aluminum in a furnace that looks like a swimming pool filled with melted aluminum. the point to note is this entire process is intensely dependent on electricity. the ceo of century aluminum tells us that canadians get their electricity subsidized, so that lowers their overhead.

they are able to undercut the u.s. producers of aluminum. as a result, canada sells the u.s. about five times more aluminum then we produce at home. and the tariffs could make the u.s. more competitive. >> so the tariffs are designed to level that playing field so that we can compete, and we are confident we can, and we will move forward in a direction. we really need to be producing materials at home for national defense purposes and also really for our economy. >> century is planning to open a new smelter, industry experts say the new smelter aside from create 1,000 jobs will consume a tremendous amount of electricity, equal to the city of cleveland. if you want to match the aluminum that comes in from canada every year, the electrical equivalent of that would be about four hoover dam's. opening the new smelter is a step toward taking the u.s. to independence from foreign metals. jacqui? >> jacqui: thank you, mike come appreciate it.

>> john: president trump pushing for peace between ukraine and russia. will he secure a cease-fire deal in two months? something the biden administration couldn't do in three years? karoline leavitt, white house press secretary is on deck to respond to all of that coming right up. lly protected by america's #1 motorcycle insurer. we can now safely go wherever the wind takes us. [ engine revs ] let's ride. [ tire squeals ] it was one of those books that smelled bad, but in a good way. you know? nah, man. -oh. -didn't think this through, -did you? -no. you go in without me. the owner and i aren't on speaking terms. apparently the refills are limited. -kay...? -it's not okay.

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