brian: meanwhile, go to our website for the after the show show. it might be live, you might be seeing it. >> thank you for having me. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- brian: as you -- bill: as he was in life, d is in death. michael jackson, a huge curtain call. in one hour, thousands will be allowed into the staples center in downtown los angeles. the memorial service starts hours from now. at 6:00 a.m. in california, we have a live look at a star- studded event. inside of that arena, 18,000 fans were awarded free tickets. jackson's family and close friends our inside of the arena as well. a large contingent of police cars just arrived at the cemetery, speculation is that a

funeral service could be held for the family at some point today. more than that have been -- more of that, later today. a dramatic news conference announcing her resignation as a last as governor, sarah palin broke her silence again, talking about her plans for the future, sharing insights on why she stepped down. it is raining news from heaven today. good morning, everybody. megyn: it all happened late yesterday, the sarah palin met with rebroadcast reporters to talk more about why she resigned and offering a message for america. she has some thoughts on how republicans have been reacting to her decisions. bill: very interesting responses. we got the fallout over the weekend. sarah palin is talking today.

and springer is back on that airplane, up in alaska. he has the latest but his conversation for the soon-to-be ex-california gov.. >> good morning. we are still not sure what governor palin has in store for her future. we asked her if she wants to be president, she deflected that question. she does not want to talk about the presidency. she said that for now she wants to focus on her agenda of bringing america together behind a conservative agenda. smaller government, energy independence, stronger defense. more of what we heard from her since her stunning july 4 announcement. she is not clarifying exactly what her future plans are. many people see her as a person who can, down the road, be a force in the republican party.

but they are questioning her strategy, with 18 months left in her term, why would she leave office? she never really did satisfy those republicans that say she made a big mistake. bill: did she sarah -- did she share her vision for the country as a whole? >> she did. she said that she wants smaller government. on that front she went after president obama, saying that he is taking this country down the wrong path. that americans need to take this country back, that we need to get back to the idea of energy independence, a stronger national defense, and smaller government. she said that obama, as i pointed out, she said that he is taking this country down the path of larger government. which is dangerous. bill: more on the governor of alaska coming up throughout the morning here on america's news room.

megyn kelly has more. megyn: president obama is making new friends in russia, meeting the current prime minister, vladimir putin. white house officials are saying that the men formed the basis of a good relation. what did they talk about, exactly? our senior white house correspondent, major garrett, sat down with president obama, and has the details on an amazing exchange between these men. wait until you hear what prime minister vladimir putin did when he got his one on one with president barack obama. it will make some headlines. live from moscow, later in the hour. bill: new reports this morning that there was a substantial global meeting on the environment, new studies showing that environmentalists might push to make america pay big money for carbon production, while the big polluters like china and india are be hot -- off the hook. the idea is that rich people in

large parts of the u.s. create a much larger carbon footprint than people in emerging economies. that is the argument. the study was published by the national academy of sciences, proposing a setting of global climate caps for taxes and high polluters. we have a senator joining us in about five minutes to talk about global warming, he claims that the epa is not being open and transparent. we will have that for you, coming up. megyn: the killing spree in south carolina that took the lives of five people in one community is over. officers in nearby north carolina shot and killed 41- year-old patrick burris while investigating a robbery. they say that the bullets in his gun matched the one that had the recipe -- residents of south

carolina terrified. he is a career criminal. he was paroled just two months ago. reggie lloyd is questioning what this guy was doing on the street to begin with. >> i believe this very strongly. the anger that i felt when i saw his rap sheet, the sheriff pointed out to you all how long that is. look at this. this is like 25 pages. at some point, the criminal justice system, we do not even need to explain why this individual is on the street. we owe that to the individuals, we owe that to the citizens that lived in terror for days. we know it that we all that going forward.

-- we know the below answers going forward. -- we know that we will foowe answers going forward. megyn: police want to know why this guy, with such a long rap sheet, was actually on the street. good morning. >> good morning. the first question that everyone wants to know is how this could have happened. why were our friends and neighbors killed? as you heard, they will be investigating that. the rap sheet is so long. they will be looking into that. they will be looking at his motive, but made him do something like this. they have not released that other than to say that he was just weird, unpredictable. they are going to be looking into his actions for months to come. megyn: this guy goes on a killing rampage, taking out six people, including a teenage girl

and her father -- the list goes on and on. how did they find him? they shot him in north carolina, found him in south carolina -- how did it go down? >> it started with a burglary call at a home. a lady saw the vehicle, sought the report of the man and thought that it looked like him -- saw the report of the man and thought it looked like camp. when the police came, he gave a fake name. they did not believe him. a shootout took place. they took his gun and matched it to ballistics, everything that was scattered at the other crime scenes. megyn: here are videos from the other crime scenes. marion, were other people with him when he was killed? >> he was with two people. they took him to cut -- took

them into custody. all they said was that they were in custody, they did not say how or if they are connected to any of this in any way. they said that they would look into where he was in those days in between the killings, to find out if he was with anyone else. megyn: if anyone provided him with help, they will be charged. you can bet that is the truth. a sigh of relief must be collectively being briefed in south carolina this morning. thank you -- breathed in south carolina this morning. bill: this rap sheet is huge. megyn: definitely. bill: you have seen the e-mails, epa saying that they are questioning the need for expensive new regulations. questions from lawmakers in the next hour. we will talk to one of the senator's first, laying out his

questions live. megyn: that will be interesting. they will have to explain themselves. you are looking live at the staples center, where we will see proceedings begin in just a matter of time. a memorial service that is nothing less than star-studded. 1.6 million people are registered to get tickets for this memorial. only about 8000, 9000 or so actually got the tickets. how many will show up? can the police handle the crowd? who, now that we know liz taylor is not attending, will serve the eulogy?

megyn: police are not messing around when it comes to people trying to scalp tickets for the michael jackson memorial this morning. a few lucky people that went online and registered got the tickets. now there are scalpers. the police have a warning for them, saying that if they catch any scalpers, they will be arrested, taken to jail, and charged with a misdemeanor.

we have a live look at the staples center in los angeles, where the event is going down. the los angeles police department will have people on the lookout, looking for people trying to sell their wristbands. you have to go online. 1.7 people did it to get 8000 tickets. you can imagine, it leaves a lot of people unhappy. scalpers, trying to get big money for these on line. they were going for up to $20,000 on ebay. in any event, some people will be headed to jail if they tried to trade in their tickets this morning. >> what a day it will be -- bill: what a day it will be. if you watched america's news room last week, you might have seen our report on the epa

burying a study from a former employee that goes against their current science. the head of the epa is facing questions on capitol hill. republican senator, james m. hoff, a longtime global warming skeptic. good morning. what is your first question? >> first of all, we called for an investigation of these things. fortunately it got out before the vote took place in the house. a long time, 30-year employee that has access to the new science that is reversing a lot of the things that the scientific community thought were true 10 years ago, they tried to suppress that. i want to get a commitment from her today at the hearing, that we will need an investigation as

to why it was suppressed, how they did it, and why. bill: you have not received a fair explanation yet? >> i have not. they tried to say that other people were suppressed, but it was not true. james hansen, he was one with nasa. he had 1400 interviews. that is not a suppression. this clearly was. by the way, dr. john christie just came out with a 27 page document. bill: he is the scientist from the university of alabama that supports the report that was written. >> correct. bill: the epa, they say that scientists -- the scientist has no additional research in his report. that it was not solicited by the epa. do you see it that way?

>> i do not. he has been there for 30 years. he is not some new guy that was there. that is his job. they have been using his information for 30 years, now they decide that his information is not consistent with the administration? putting perspective on this, 16 years ago we had a president called bill clinton, he had the house and the senate, just like obama does. he came out with the largest tax increase on energy. it passed the house by the same margin, one-vote majority, just like this bill. it was killed in the senate. a bad bill from the environmental works committee in the senate would not pass. we have voted on this three times.

bill: the house passed their fourth version of the climate bill or one week and a half ago. do you feel moderate -- do you fill, and that you can call moderate democrats fear side? >> absolutely. look at where the bill was last time. the same thing, these bills are all the same, cap and trade and tax increase. the most votes that they have right now are 35 of votes. while it will pass out, people will be wringing their hands about this great horrible tax increase on the senate floor, it will not pass the senate floor. i can assure you that the new democrats serving in the senate do not want to go home and say look at me, i voted for the largest tax increase in the history of america. bill: thank you, senator. we will be watching. megyn: what a situation in south

carolina. this small south carolina town is breathing a sigh of relief today. this suspected serial killer is now dead. what led to a guy with a long history of to bid crimes to suddenly graduate to the leaves of americans most feared criminals? inside the mind of a serial killer, just ahead. bill: an aerial view outside of the jackson family home in encino, california. a crowd has gathered there. also, downtown los angeles, an enormous crowd is expected for the memorial service. we have the latest on the star- studded guest list that can get there late last night. who has the family invited? if you'd like to know more, go

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further east in iran, the opposition team is calling for the release of detainees. megyn: they are expecting about 20,000 people at the staples center in downtown los angeles this morning for a memorial service to be watched around the world by an estimated 1 billion. this is our first look live inside of the center. take a look, the lights are not up yet but you get a basic feel for what is about to go down. in just a few hours, fans, family, and friends of michael jackson will pay their respects. stevie wonder, mariah carey, usher, brooke shields, jennifer hudson, the list goes on. adam is live inside of the staples center. set the scene. >> this is the hottest ticket in

town. you talked about fans coming out, we have already seen them showing up, dressed in black. i am going to step aside and show you a live look outside of the staples center. you can see police officers standing about every 10 feet or so. you will find this seen all around the facility. if you go across, there are about eight big massive pains of wall that you can go and sign your name to. you can leave a fought for something that you might want to write to michael jackson and his family. all round of the staples center, security is extremely tight. for a number of blocks the streets are shut down. without a wristband or a take it you would not be able to get into this area at all. we have 1500 extra police

officers in this area, as much as $4 million may be spent on security alone. that could come out of los angeles'budget . it means that the city of los angeles might need some money. on their website, believe it or not, you can donate money to help pay for this memorial service. the city is spending about $4 million on this. 10:00 a.m. local time this morning, aeg have nine cameras involved. you could probably guess that this would end up as part of a dvd releases for a pay-per-view event at some point. megyn: i am told that one of the main producers of the grammys is involved. it should be a large production. they are saying that this will be more of a celebration that will be a somber memorial.

there's a question about what we should expect, what kind of extravaganzas is going to take place. there are so many a list of stars that are going to perform there this morning. -- a-list of stars that are going to perform there this morning. >a-list stars that are going to perform there this morning. >> there are a lot of rumors swirling around. that his casket might be here. that there could be surprised guests. you mentioned the people running the show, i know a few people that are here, in 90 minutes, they do a lot of the awards ceremonies in los angeles. they are going to be here, running this remembrance this morning. yes, it will be a star-studded productions as well. megyn: elizabeth taylor, we learn, will not be attending.

she said that she did not think that she would -- he would want her to show her grieve publicly. is diana ross going to be there? >> yes, and real quick -- his ex-wife and not be here. 18,000 people will be in sight of here. another 6500 in the nokia theater. around 25,000 people will be in one of the two locations. megyn: got to be a disappointment to get sent to the overflow room, but better than getting out to get at all. and you. bill: three different locations to keep an eye on, the staples center, the jackson family home, and a cemetery where we believe a private service will be held with the jackson family and very close friends, three different

locations throughout the morning. as we get more information on what is happening, we will cover it for you. a day like los angeles has likely never seen before. megyn: that is saying something. new information this morning on the death of steve mcnair and the woman we were told was his mistress. we are hearing about new clues that could give police a much better idea of what actually went down when they lost their lives with someone else involved. bill: sarah palin, what is she saying to day after the bomb shell was dropped on friday afternoon? >> most candidates in public officials look into a camera and say that you had better keep your hands off my kids.

bill: 9:32 here in new york city. 6:30 in the morning, los angeles. that is forest lawn cemetery, where we believe that at some point in the next couple of hours the jackson family will join for a private ceremony. we will watch for some kind of recession, we anticipate, leading down the staples pristina -- staples for reno. that city and state, strapped for cash, stretched to the limit, trying to make sure that everything is going on smoothly. this is an economic boon for downtown los angeles, they had been averaging about 56% occupancy, and now they are

booked to capacity. people flooding into los angeles to get a glimpse of the good buy for the king of pop, michael jackson. we will get you there live as the developments come to us here. megyn: she is one of america's brightest and most controversial stars. sarah palin, her resignation announcement sending shock waves through the country, leaving more questions than answers for many. the governor is now elaborating on why she stepped down. >> we have so many people that offer advice, you know? i will continue to be, whether some of them like it or not, pretty darn independent, not getting wrapped up into a political machine that has not been extremely successful in some ways. megyn: well, that was more about her future plans, which is what everybody wants to know.

we will have more on that and her message for the republican party and watch it -- what she thinks they need to do a revamped. bill: mark sanford, he says that he will work to earn back the trust of fellow republicans after state members voted to censure him. the party did not call for him to resign. last week a state law enforcement investigation revealed that he did not properly used money on the six meetings he had with his argentinian mistress. the governor said that he is prepared to serve out his term in office. megyn: the noose may be tightening on the doctors that fostered michael jackson's drug dependence. his personal physician, dr. conrad murray, was not even

licensed to prescribe controlled drugs in california. how, on earth, was he giving michael jackson medications, if he in fact was, as the report indicate? we have a doctor with us on the phone, the author of "healing the addicted brain." this guy was licensed in nevada and other states, but not in california. for him to give michael jackson a prescription for any of these drugs, which we heard may have been used by the pop star, would have been illegal? >> it would have been against the law. you get a number from the united states government at the federal level. in each state where you practice medicine, you must be certified in that state to practice. megyn: ok. the drug that they seem to be focusing on for now, with respect to his death, is propofol, a drug used in

hospitals. my understanding is that that is a drug that that -- that is not on the controlled substances list because it is in hospitals. not a drug that people generally abuse. is that true? >> propofol is a very effective medication when used in the hands of a licensed anesthesiologist. however, when used in the hands of any other physician, it is a dangerous and deadly medication. i think that the licensing agencies would not have considered it as having needed to be licensed. most hospital settings only allow anesthesiologists to give it in a surgical environment. megyn: dr. conrad murray, the reason i am asking if, he gave an interview where he denied giving specific drugs.

they went down the list with him. propofol, they ask -- his lawyer said that they refused to comment. leaving everyone to believe that he actually gave them propofol. reports are that they found propofol in michael jackson's home. obviously authorities are going to talk to conrad murray some more about this drug. even though he was not allowed to prescribe controlled substances in california, might there be a loophole, since this drug might not have been on the banned list? >> if he has no license to practice in california, no matter the medication being given, it would be illegal. coming back to propofol, it is a very dangerous medication. even the other ones that they were asking about, those are much safer medications. dangerous as they are in the

wrong hands, they are safer than propofol. megyn: we are told that he had sleep problems and problems falling asleep. if he had wanted propofol, and the nutritionist did tell us that he called and begged him to get that drug, if we hit -- if he had persuaded conrad murray to give him propofol, how would it have worked in that house? >> it should only be given in a hospital setting. megyn: we do understand that. >> it provides a very unusual form of sleep for a short period of time. it is not something that i would think that any physician in their right mind should prescribe. it is a medication that knocks you out for an anesthesia component of surgery. that is all that it does. you should not use propofol for

surge -- for anything outside of surgery. megyn: there are questions that some people have raised about why the doctor would have gone into michael jackson's room to check on him in the first place. some people believe that he administered the drug, perhaps he was checking on the patient to make sure that everything was ok. would that have been crop -- possible? could you give it to someone, walk away, and come back in one hour? >> you could, but that would be dangerous medicine. anesthesiologists are given this maddison in the operating environment to monitor card rate on a minute by minute basis. leaving the room for any length of time, giving it in the place of sleep, it is very inappropriate.

unless he was an anesthesiologist, he had no ability to prescribe this in a safe measure. megyn: he was not an anesthesiologist, he got hooked up with the family, reportedly, because one of michael jackson's bodyguards got him quickly when michael jackson needed a doctor a few years ago, knowing that he would, in the middle of the night. reports are that this guy was making $150,000 per month. for the duration of a concert series that michael jackson was going to do. >> there are so many safe and effective sleeping medications. all of this is pointing towards the fact that there was probably an addiction issue going on. needing stronger and stronger medication to put you to sleep,

that comes in the normal course of addiction. there is a lot of misinformation and unanswered questions out there. the fact that he was using a very dangerous medicine in an inappropriate way, and non- hospital environment, leaves major questions in my mind. megyn: the los angeles police department says that dr. conrad murray is not a suspect, but they never call them suspects until you are arrested. thank you, doctor. bill: cars are moving out of the jackson family home in california. there is the live picture. los angeles. think about this the next time that you complain about cramped seats on an airline. would you fly an airline that is willing to fail standing room only? we are not kidding. also b burris, -- also, patrick burris, a serial killer.

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megyn: live to los angeles and the staples center, where the crowd will be arriving shortly for a star-studded memorial. lionel richie, martin luther king iii, mariah carey, stevie wonder, magic johnson, kobe

bryant, brooke shields, diana ross, all amongst the attendance. diana ross was named as the back of guardian in case michael jackson's mother could not take care of them. these folks are going to be performing, not just attending. we are told that the jackson brothers, the remaining four, will be performing for the first time since september 10, 2001, in a tribute to their brother. what an event this will be. live coverage on fox. we hope that he will join us. -- you will join us. bill: a town in south carolina might be sleeping easier now that police said they killed a man that was suspected of murdering five people on a rampage. so many people want to know how patrick burris, sr., a career

come -- career criminal with a 25 page rap sheet, was released two months ago. in north carolina he was taken down. kerry valentine was the woman that called the police. good morning to you. >> the morning, sir. bill: you live across the street? >> i do. bill: what did you see, what can you describe him yesterday? >> at approximately 3:00 yesterday, my husband noticed headlights shining through our dining room window. a ford explorer pulled into the carport. no one got out of the vehicle. the house had been vacant for quite some time, about six months. my husband called the police and informed them that a vehicle had pulled in, and that they had turned the headlights off.

bill: was there more than one person? >> yes, the owners of the house and the suspected killer. bill: did you recognize him? >> i did not recognize that it was hampered -- that it was him at that time. bill: your husband called police because you were suspicious about the activity? >> yes. as i said, the house had been vacant for quite some time. no one has been over there. it was very unusual to see a vehicle. after the fact, my husband, after seeing the vehicle he actually made the comment that look like a ford explorer that they were describing on the television. bill: did he have any connection to the people that live there? >> not to my knowledge. i recently heard that they made

the statement that they met this individual a couple of weeks ago. they had been partying for a couple of weeks, coming to the vacant house to go to sleep. bill: they describe this guy as unpredictable and scary. >> he appeared to be intoxicated at the time. bill: you may have saved lives. >> you know what? i was really upset before i knew who it was, eighth because that police officer was shot and a person was killed -- who it was, because that police officer was shot and a person was killed. then i found out who it was. then i felt relieved. it was another ugly person off of the street. those people can rest easy and go on about their lives, not living in fear every day. bill: thank you. my best to your husband. megyn: president obama saying that he wants to improve our relationship with russia.

vladimir putin, the former russian president, is he helping? the lecture that he delivered to our president. we are going live to moscow, next. bill: downtown los angeles, we should see the first of 17,000 18,000 people making their way inside. right now the family, we are being told, is on their way from the home in california. that is the live look. we believe that they are headed the forest lawn, where it is believed that he will be buried. he may be first taken to the staples center. megyn: can you imagine? they are going to take his $25,000 gold-plated casket into the staples center? out in front of these 25,000 people? bill: it will be a sight to see. check it out of line, foxnews.com. -- check it out of line,

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megyn: president obama, making a historic first visit to russia, sitting down with dimitri medvedev as well as the current prime minister. as well as vladimir putin, used to be a russian president. when they sat down to gather, did they talk about iraq? iran? north korea? now, instead prime minister vladimir putin had a lecture prepared for president obama. our senior white house correspondent, major garrett, had the details. he sat down for an interview with president obama shortly after. this is fascinating.

>> good morning to you, meghan. good afternoon from moscow, where it is almost six in the evening. i had a brief interview off camera with the national security adviser, jim jones, who sat in on the meeting. i asked him what happened. he said " -- that for the first hour all that vladimir putin did was talk. he talked about the cold war. for an hour? he said yes. not a flower, they have to allow for translation -- not a full hour, they have to allow for translation, but basically vladimir putin gave his take on the cold war for an entire hour. all that stuff about the future and contemporary issues, korea, iran, afghanistan, none of that came up in anywhere near the detail preferred, because the end of the meeting is when the president got a chance to talk

that was a back-and-forth exchange. they did not cover the ground that they hope for, in part because the prime minister spent so much time retelling the torque -- story of the cold war. his cold war history is interesting, pardon me -- throwing it back to you? megyn: now, keep going. >> thank you. i was getting confusing directions in my year. apologies. the cold war was interesting, vladimir putin said that the cold war came to a conclusion because of the actions of many nations, not any one nation. i asked president obama, are the russians not strong enough to hear that the cold war was won? that the west want it? and that a series of republican presidents held to achieve a victory? >> i think that you just cut out the poles, luenza, havel and

the chzechs. there were a whole bunch of people in eastern europe that showed enormous courage. i think that it is very important in this part of the world to acknowledge the degree to which people struggled for their own freedom. i am very proud of the traditions of democratic and republican presidents in lifting the iron curtain. >> there you have it. many nations, the u.s. wants and was the driving force. megyn: fascinating. thank you, maj. bill: we have a live look at the staples center in downtown los angeles. in a matter of minutes, 18,000 will start moving inside. we are learning more about the path of michael jackson's casket.

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[captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- megyn: fox news alert. this is above the forest lawn cemetery in burbank. no, that is the staples center. michael jackson will be laid to rest after a memorial services at the staples center in los angeles. you cannot believe the details

we are getting on this. the staples center ceremony begins in a couple of hours. first the family will gather for a private the by at the cemetery. they are now proceeding to the free -- funeral home for the private goodbye. however, the casket of hifor his body will not be interred at this ceremony. we are told that it will be taken by motorcade to the staples center. according to tmz, the swat team will transport the body. if that is not possible, they have a contingency plan to helicopter the body to the staples center. we are told that body and that casket will be center stage at the public memorial that begins this morning.

a spectacle in death, as he was in life. this is the reporting from tmz. we are live to greta van susteren, will be high on the scene in two minutes. gov. sarah palin, former candidate for vice president, breaking her silence, expanding on why she is stepping down and where the future will take her. good morning, everybody. bill: good morning. governor palin is talking about her plans for the future in an interview with the fox news channel from her home state in alaska. she is leaving the governor's office with a new message for america and the republican party. megyn: dan springer is streaming live from anchorage, alaska. he is one of the few reporters the got to sit down with a

candidate. she took you on a boat, i understand. what did she say to you? >> you have not lived until you have gone commercial fishing with sarah palin. there she was with her rubber boots and her gloves, knee deep in salmon in the day. it was amazing. we will have those figures later on today. she was rolling up her sleeves and getting in there. basically she wanted to get control of the message. she announced on july 4 that she was stepping down 18 months before her term was up. she is taking a lot of criticism for that move. republican strategists said that this is the wrong move if she has aspirations for higher office. basically she wanted to clarify why she did it. basically what she said is that the people that were after her, bloggers and critics, they made it impossible for her to get her

agenda done. she said she wants a different type of america from the path we are going down right now and then to do that, she needs to get out of the ball and chain that is the political environment in the state right now. megyn: i understand that she complained about the media coverage of her and her children? >> at the time she came off very bitter. she was the most aggressive i have ever seen her in going after the media and loggers. she said that she was treated unlike many other politicians. >> the most candidates, most public officials look into a camera and say keep your hands off of my kids. i have not been able to say that, and that double standard

has been frustrating. >> clearly, sarah palin is upset with her treatment in the media. we have not heard the last of this. i am sure that she will make specific allegations in her book. megyn: those proceeds will probably help her go a long way to getting through those legal bills and ethics complaints, another one that she died yesterday. thank you. bill: now to the staples center in los angeles. michael jackson's memorial service will take place in a few hours. thousands of people are working their way through, one by one. they are waiting to get in. we expect 18,000 people at the memorial. 1500 extra police officers are on the ground to handle the crowds.

greta van susteren as telling us live. 7:05 local time. what are you seeing so far today? >> first of all there are thousands lined up outside of the perimeter. we have seen people dressed up, people driving cars looking like michael jackson. if we can zoom in on the stage, we expect people to pull in here in a short period of time. we do not know for sure if his casket will be here. there is a lot of speculation on whether or not that spot right below the platform might be where they put michael jackson's casket. you know the problem? othere is so much rumor and speculation that runs rapid-fire through the media and the crowd. crowds are lined up from last night. people were lined up beside hit her --hear, one of the flowers a

card saying it was from japan. will the crowds be at the millions? all we do not know. we will know until doors open and people give us a good look. so far, the good news is that it seems really organized and calm. bill: let's hope that it stays that way. the associated press is reporting now that the police chief says that michael jackson's casket will go to the staples center, where you are. how it gets there, we are not sure. in los angeles, there is a good chance that we will be able to follow it. coming your way, a $25,000 golden casket made in dates will, indiana. almost identical to the one that james brown was viewed in before

his final moments. we will see it at some point. what about the celebrities inside? >> that is the intriguing thing. people were thinking that maybe debbie rowe would show up. elizabeth taylor, now. mariah carey will be here. jesse jackson, lionel richie, they will be here. by mistake last night they put the feats of rehearsals going on. for a second we saw a bunch of children. we wondered if there was going to be a we are the world. lionel richie was very involved in that. the performances have been kept under wraps but for that split second that we got out rock feed on the big board and we had a bit of an idea of some of the performance. a lot of this has been kept under wraps.

we are all on celebrity watch at this point. bill: thank you, greta. we will be in touch throughout the day here on fox. megyn: we are awaiting the jackson family at the encino family compound, heading from there to the funeral home. there will be a private ceremony there for the family, no public. they have been setting that up all morning. we understand that from there they will progress to the staples center. as bill mentioned, we are getting word, according to the associated press, that los angeles police are reporting that the casket will go from the funeral home to the staples center. believe it or not, we are hearing that this thing will take center stage at this memorial service, a gold plated casket similar to the one used for the body of james brown,

michael jackson's title. it will be front and center, attended by some 20,000 people. we heard from michael jackson family representative, lawyers and others taking part, that this will be a celebration. they are not seeing this is a day of mourning, they are seeing it as a chance to celebrate him. that is why you will see so many old-time motown stars coming out as we watch a spectacle unfold in california this morning. bill: check this out, this is the first time we have seen through, people working into the staples center. peaceful, orderly, that is the way that they want to keep it. it is early as well. seven a m in los angeles. megyn: a.m. at the funeral home,

three hours later they will progress -- 8:00 a.m. at the funeral home, three hours later they will progress to ththe funeral -- the staples center. bill: we have heard that there might even be a parade of elephants. that is because the circuits goes to the staples center tomorrow. this could be the biggest celebrity send off of all time. that is the main paragraph from los angeles this morning. megyn: they are saying that there will literally be a parade of elephants? they have to close it because of this foot traffic. as opposed to the circus today. we could not script this. people would say that it was too crazy. bill: who knows what could happen? a celebration of life? i estimate that it will be that way.

megyn: i am looking forward to seeing the jackson five, performing a tribute to their brother. i think that that will be a very moving moment. there will be an individual performance that will graduate -- that will grab people's attention. bill: we have a video of debbie rowe that we will show you later today. moving on, health care, one real solution? how much will it cost the real -- middle-class? how many illegals could be covered? megyn: dozens in china are now dead, dozens are injured, minority groups being crushed by a government. why? when will it stop? bill: we have a live look at the forest lawn cemetery, where we believe that the jackson family

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keeping them honest. then he looks forward to a final product that achieve those goals. is it in or not? senator john kyle serves as the minority whip. thank you for being here. >> good to be with you. the president wants a so-called government run insurance plan very badly. the reality is that congress is not likely to give that to him. rohm emmanuel is looking around for a compromise. the president had to reiterate his strong support, the liberals wanted it very much. the problem, as you pointed out, is that it would result in millions of americans leaving the private insurance that they are happy with and having to sign up with government coverage. that is why it is not popular on capitol hill. liberals are still pushing for it. megyn: liberals want it, so

president obama wants it. does it get in? the president says that he wants a bill by october, saying that it would get passed by august, is that true? can something that passed with democrats in control of both houses, something that includes a public auction? >> i do not believe so. first of all, i do not think that a government plan will be in the final bill, no matter when it passes. it would be rushing things to try do that in the next month. this is a complicated problem. everyone agrees that we need health care reform, but it is an important issue cannot get wrong, hard to do. most people have insurance and are happy with it. the trick is to make sure they get to keep their insurance, and not ruin what they have so that we can provide insurance for americans that are not insured. under the plan from yesterday, there are 16 million people that

are still uninsured. you have a difficult problem here, i would not to rush this -- i would not want to rush this. megyn: what do you do about the illegal immigrants? if there is a public auction that covers illegals in this country, people begin to get apoplectic. they do not want to expand the invitation for illegals to cross the border. on the other hand, if they are not covered, who pays the bill when they show up at the hospital to get treatment? >> that is the dilemma, we have not been enforcing our laws and we have too many illegal immigrants. the best solution is to not have a legal immigrants and enforce the laws of the border. to the extent of their here, the law requires that they are treated in emergency rooms. that is how they get their care. hospitals have to take care of

them. in the past we had a lot -- law , but it has expired. we do not have an answer in any legislation. megyn: if you and i are forced by the government to buy a plan of insurance because they want us to be covered so that we do not jack up the prices, why would be illegals be given a pass? there is controversy. >> we will be paying for their care. megyn: thank you for joining us. on a casual day in the nation's capital, love the look. [laughter] bill: we are getting some movement, apparently, at the jackson family home in california. we are not sure who are in these vehicles. it could be high -- it could be the family members, headed to the forest lawn cemetery.

waiting by the secretary, anita vogel. what can we say about this private ceremony that is expected? >> that is a great question. we certainly heard a lot of conflicting reports this morning i can tell you that we are expecting something big. there has been a heavy police presence of all morning long. a crush of media. they are lined up, waiting for something. we believe that there will be some kind of a private ceremony this morning for the jackson ceremony -- jackson family. there was activity last night, cameras caught members of the family outside of the cemetery. we saw latoya jackson wearing a hat and glasses. we saw randy jackson. they were here for what we believe might have been a viewing. we believe that the casket was left here overnight. all morning long the question

had been if the family would bury michael jackson this morning or if the casket would be taken to the staples center for the public celebration. we are hearing through the associated press that the police chief is saying that the casket will be taken to the staples center and be a part of the public memorial. bill: tv cameras will follow, in all likelihood. this forest lawn cemetery is very unique. very famous people are buried. there is a seating area for well over 1000 people. can you describe for the viewers what it is like? >> this cemetery has a long history of being the cemetery to the stars. there are so many famous people buried here. bette davis is buried here. sammy davis jr., ozzie nelson, freddie prince, liberace. most recently, john ritter and david caribbean. the staff knows how to handle

famous families. they are used to this kind of thing. they are used to providing protection, security, and privacy. we do not know what sort of area he will be laid to rest in, but we know that it will be private and it might be an accessible to the public. things that we are likely to find out in the coming days. bill: two more locations in los angeles, you can see it coming from the staples center. that is where the front gate is sometimes moving, sometimes stationary. adam is reporting that the associated press said that the casket will be taken to the set -- staples center. several hundred people have gathered on the street outside. in all likelihood what some of them have been there all life. here is what he is saying about whether or not the casket will go to the arena. the los angeles police

department was telling us that it might happen, attributed to the associated press. the police chief said that is not entirely accurate. they are prepared, thinking that right now it is likely, but the final decision comes from the jackson family. the jackson family may, in all likelihood, be headed to burbank, california. you know how close lift things have been for the past week or so, how reports have shifted by the day. sometimes by the hour. a private ceremony, for certain, at the ceremony -- cemetery, followed by a celebration of life in the staples center. megyn: it is 10 miles from encino to forest lawn cemetery. another 13 miles from there to the scent -- staples center in downtown los angeles. if the jackson family decides to bring the casket with the body

in it from forest lawn to the staples center, police need to prepare for security. you can imagine the mob scenes that we will see unfold on the streets of los angeles, as the caravan holding his body goes by. they are prepared to go by helicopter, if necessary, awaiting word from the family. one has to wonder if they are giving all of the information. speaking of los angeles police, there are hundreds of them, hundreds of them out there protecting the scene, making sure that nobody gets hurt, that nobody breaks the rules. it looks like today's memorial is giving los angeles a major boost in terms of business, to the tune of $4 million. all of these bodies coming in, purchasing items, staying in hotels and so on. the lapd is expecting 1 million people in town for the service. hotels, restaurants, airports,

the tourist destinations, all reporting a jump in business. an average 56% occupancy. at the hilton in downtown los angeles, 80%. virgin atlantic said that flights from london to los angeles were completely sold out over the weekend. what is this going to cost of the los angeles taxpayers? a bundle, making them considerable money as well. bill: 26 minutes past the hour, we believe the scene. when something happens, we will bring it to you. debbie rowe is on the fence about raising the children she had a michael jackson. she is not named in the will, she is not even a backup guardian. the day, in "kelly's court" we will look at her chances to win custody in court. megyn: a suspected serial killer is dead. are the police any closer to figuring out why this man, patrick burris, when from penny

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bill: we are keeping an eye on los angeles, 7:30 in the morning. we are told that security is tight, about 18,000 people will be able to get into the arena. the memorial service will start at 10:00 a.m. local time, 1:00 p.m. on the east coast. some vehicles were moving a few moments ago, to the cemetery known as for as long. megyn: south carolina authorities said the serial killer terrorizing the town of gaffney is dead. patrick burris was killed yesterday in a shootout with police after being spotted by an alert neighbor in north carolina. now south carolina law men are

angry about why this guy with a rap sheet that went on for pages and pages was on the street in the first place. marion has more on that right now. is it true that this guy was paroled two months ago? >> that is right. so far investigators have not released a motive in why he did all of this, although that -- they say that he took some things from the home of the victim that was a peach farmer. nothing other than was unpredictable, scary, and weird. people around here want to know what his motives were. megyn: we saw the chief law- enforcement officer down their holding up the rap sheet, which went on for pages and pages, asking why he was on the street. how could he have been out? what kinds of crimes have this man been in prison for before?

>> some of those crimes that we heard about, things like larceny, breaking and entering, theft, forgery, he is a career criminal. that was the director of the state law enforcement division that held up the rap sheet, saying that there will be investigating as to why this guy was out and how he could have been let out with a rap sheet that long. megyn: there are questions this morning about how this guy, whose rap sheet is related mostly to breaking and entering, turned into a serial killer. was anything said about his prior history, predicting that he could make that the serving transition? >> they did not go into detail about how his criminal history might have transitioned into what he wound up doing in this town. and they are going to be looking into his background, they said. they are looking at the fact

that when he was caught, when oil was killed, he was with two other people. they will be looking into who those people are and if they are connected in any way. they are going to trace his movements over the past week. megyn: those of the faces of his victims. thankfully, we hope, they have their man and he is dead, that killing spree is over. mary ann, thank you. bill: president obama and his meetings in moscow, they are over. what has the president achieved? kati is with us. did you hear what major garrett reported earlier? >> it was fascinating. bill: apparently vladimir putin gave him his all of history of the cold war and how russia and the u.s. got to where they are. why did he do that? >> president obama has gone

through europe and has great success with diplomacy. vladimir putin is not buying it. he says that he is still in charge. russia in general, they act the way that the price of oil does. when it is up, they get aggressive. when down, they are looking for deals. bill: you are saying that he is flexing? >> he is. bill: you say that the charm offensive failed. how do we know? >> i thought that you could see it in major garrett interview, the body language. president obama -- the spin in advance was that they were going to have some kind of grand bargain, getting the russians to stop the nuclear program if a signal was given on missile defense. they have gotten a little bit

of a start on the strategic arms reduction talks renewal. bill: you worked with reagan. >> i did. bill: did his charm worked? >> the first four years, we had no leverage over russia. the second four years we did, that is when we cut the deal. we had encouraged eastern europe. that was only after we announced star wars. reagan would negotiate, but he would leverage it. bill: you say that they achieved a little, but not a lot? >> right. they have agreed to a reduction in nuclear arms. that is what we were expecting. but they did not get anything else. they did not get a strategic bargain or any of the atmospherics they were looking for. when vladimir who was lecturing

obama on the cold war, i read his thesis, he talked about russia reclaiming its position using oil revenues. this is what they're doing. bill: off of the high from one year ago, but oil is higher than its low. what do we do now? we know that iran is still lurking. >> they should be national security interest 1, 2, 3. we have to do this through russia. russia is supporting iran. if we can convince russia to stop helping iran, we could go a long way to stopping the iranian program. in russia the leverage that we have is we can say that russia, this is a bad investment. we can help with that. you want to be in the world trade organization? we can help with that.

we want to make sure that we have a missile shield not aimed at you? join with us, have that missile shield protect us both from iran. russia, if you want eastern europe, we will not give it back to you, but we do not wanted in an empire either. they should be free. bill: there appears to be movement in the relationship, and meetings like these are absolutely important. can you imagine if they said that this was not ok? >> a great beginning, small steps, but it has to build from there. the key is the iranian nuclear weapons. bill: we appreciate your analysis. thank you. megyn: wait for it, we have a live look at the staples center. the memorial center does not begin for a couple of hours, but they have arrived early. the family has gone by motorcade

to the forest lawn cemetery, where a private ceremony will take place in 20 minutes. after that, they will proceed to join these fans and others, friends of michael jackson, as some 20,000 people file into the center to pay final respects. we are live with you all morning. speaking of michael jackson, first his ex-wife, debbie rowe -- not sarah palin, debbie rowe said that she did not want custody. apparently she has changed her mind. battling to take back the children she had with him, and apparently the third one as well. they were left to his mother. she may not have helped her case based on what we saw outside of a restaurant near her house. we will show you. check out foxnews.com, you can click on the complete coverage link for all things michael jackson related. bill: you mentioned her, sarah

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it is called live view. a small device that we can use for the people now. it gives us an up close look, as we saw. right before we went to commission -- commercial, dozens of people were working their way through the magnetometers in the arena. expect to see more of that throughout the morning. megyn: "kelly's court" is back in session. debbie rowe, michael jackson's ex-wife and mother of the oldest children, getting feisty with the paparazzi hot side of a restaurant near her house. >> nobody pushed you. >> you just did. >> are you ready to fight for your children? >> are you ready to get your butt kicked? megyn: she has been thrust back into the national spotlight, especially now that she says she

will fight to take michael jackson's children away from their grandmother, katherine jackson. apparently she is also willing to take his third child, who goes under the name of blanket. she is threatening a restraining order to keep the children away from her grandfather -- the children's grandfather, joe, with whom they had a strained relationship. with us now, mercedes and michael. what a mess. first she says that she does not want them. that they are his kids, that she was basically the womb that gave birth. now, a reversal. can he win? >> admittedly, the presumption is very strong. biological mother, everybody knows this, almost always gets

the children. it is probable. if there was ever a case for it, it is here. evidence will come in. are these kids better off with the grandmother or with debbie rowe? in light of what you have heard in the past, statements that she has hearmade, the grandmother hs been a steady force in their life. from what we have read, debbie rowe essentially sold these kids for $8,000,000.10 years ago. tell me, can you read about the resumption? based on what i know right now, this could be the case where the mother does not get the children. megyn: we are looking live at the forest lawn cemetery, where they will be having a private ceremony. here is the jackson family home. debbie rowe, in the past, said

that she had the children for him. they would not be on this planet without my love for him. i have done absolutely nothing to earn the title of parent. >> i think that her lawyers are going to come forward and say look, they cannot go to the grandmother because this is the same one that washer children get beaten by grandpa joe, daddy dearest. she watched her son go down to 112 pounds, obviously addicted to these drugs he was taking. there is certainly a lot of evidence that debbie rowe could come forward and say that ran but jackson will not have the best interest of the children in mind -- grandmother jackson will not have the best interest of the children in line. she is 80. that is going to be hurt biggest

-- that is going to be the biggest problem. the custodians, that is going to be one of the critical factors above all else. megyn: that is a problem. the youngest child, blanket kelli is seven. the oldest, prince michael, is 12. >> those are fair points. i would lose credibility in my argument, you cannot look at the fact that the grandmother is 79 or these other issues, but these children are not two or three. they have voices. think about this. a 12-year-old boy. in addition to all of the other investigation, including psychiatrists and psychiatric assessment, in my opinion this judge is going to listen to those kids. if they say that i know my grandmother, i do not know this other woman, please do not send me to this other person -- if

that happens, how compelling is that for the judge sitting there? just because you share dna? megyn: there is still a question about that as well. there was reporting from last week that she is not the biological mother of the children, that she serve only as the womb. she denies that. she says that she is the biological mother. >> nothing is simple about this case. with respect to michael jackson, nothing was ever assembled. megyn: mercedes, could diana ross wind up with the children? if debbie rowe makes the case that katherine jackson is too old, for given her relationship with joe jackson, that she should not get the kids? could die and ross wind up with those children? >> what a scary thought. although i love those songs.

what might ultimately happen is that the nanny might get the children, she has been the central mother figure to the children. i am not sure how much contact diana ross has had. if anyone has that kind of advocacy, it will be the nanny. megyn: i do not know what their relationship was, could she get in? >> it is possible. dealing with the will, children and money, their wishes might get passed on children, but that is best interest. a savvy move might be for the grandmother to actually higher than any, saying that this -- hire the nanny. that would be a move that shows that she is looking out for the best interest of the kids. is that not compelling? i would be thinking about

something like that. megyn: that would provide consistency. the biggest weakness for debbie rowe, is it not the absence of her relationship with the children? what one does she have other than biology? >> it will come down to whether she was allowed. our rental alienation could be an issue. she might say that she could not have contact, that even when she tried, michael jackson stood in her way. parental alienation has won out in court before. >> one other point, this extraordinary step she took -- remember this, she went to court years ago to have her own rides cut off. i am not aware of anyone doing that at any point in time. megyn: it could be reversed, but she still did do it. this to be a mess. suddenly everyone is interested in having these children.

thank you both for your insights. one final word, debbie rowe would have a good case if she had any kind of relationship with these children. but she does not. according to virtually everyone, michael wanted the children with his mother, catherine. they have been to enough, these children, without getting up ended into the home of a woman that they barely know. visitation is one thing, but custody? i do not think so. bill: looking live at the staples center, they are continuing to a trickle in. we will bring you continuing coverage of everything that is moving in los angeles. from the staples center to encino to the cemetery. also, you can go online to foxnews.com for all things michael jackson. .

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megyn: as we are moments away is this private ceremony at the forest lawn secretary -- cemetery and see the family leaving the compound in encino, calif., we are told that is joe jackson in that rolls-royce. there are many rolls royces, with many members of the family leave in the compound in preparation for the final goodbye. just a couple hours before they head to the staples center. first, they had to force on for a private ceremony -- they had to forest lawn for a private

ceremony. next, they will have 13 miles to go from forest lawn to the staples center, where we are waiting for the casket of michael jackson to appear. his body will be there, according to preliminary reports. it will be delivered to the staple center, where we are expecting that it will take a front and center stage for his fans to say a final goodbye. this $25,000 gold-plated casket, similar to the one used by michael jackson's idol, james brown. so you think you have seen the worst on the airplane ride? think again. there's an airline asking you whether or not you need a seat. ireland's ryan air wants to let passengers fly standing up. are we making this up? sue varney. are we making this up? >> no.

but it is not going to happen. not a prayer. this will not happen. bill: this bar stool with seat belts around their waists? are you kidding? >> not going to happen, ok? this was an idea on the part of michael o'leary, the founder of ryan era. he is known as a character who wants to get publicity with shocking headlines. he invented it and paid for everything, including pay toilets above his flights. he is about to get rid of checkout counters. at the moment, he does not like the united states. he is asking irish authorities for permission to of stand up passengers on flights, and it will never, ever come to the united states of america. bill: he was going to charge a penny. pound for flying there.

a fat tax? >> i do not know if it went through, but he started paying for food, blankets, paying to use the bathroom, paying to put luggage on board. he is doing well with this kind of publicity. we are doing it for him, aren't we? bill: thank you. we needed a moment of levity today. thank you for providing that. coming at the top of the hour, we will continue our coverage of the michael jackson memorial service. we have our cameras there. megyn: a live shot from inside the staple center as we get word that the family has left the compound in encino and are headed for the memorial service. e is that dollar? i got it out to show you... uhh... was it rather old and wrinkly? yeah, you saw it? umm fancy a crisp?

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