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sean: did obama abandon the people of illinois -- that she abandoned the people of alaska. greta: tonight, a child broken hearts. she talked about daddy. -- a child's broken heart. >> daddy was the best dad you could ever imagine. greta: we need daddy as michael jackson. 11-year-old paris brings everyone to tears -- we knew daddy as michael jackson. michael jackson not the pop star, but michael jackson the father. you will get a never seen before portrait of his family live, and then the question that is confusing everyone. why is governor palin quitting? you'll hear directly from
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governor palin in a one-on-one interview about whether or not she has regrets, and tonight, governor palin's goes on the record. and hold onto your seats. is a second stimulus package coming? wait until you president obama's economic adviser -- wait until you hear what he has to say. we are live at the staples center live in los angeles where 17,000 people, including us, watched michael jackson's memorial. there were lots of stars. stevie wonder, mariah carey, magic johnson, john mayer, smokey robinson, and more. >> michael, thank you, thank you
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for the joiy. thank you for the love. you will live in my heart forever. i love you. ♪ >> "man in the mirror,"my coach jackson. -- michael jackson. >> michael's favorite song was not one of the masterpieces that he gave us, but it was one that charlie chaplin did for the movie "modern times," and it was called "smile." >> ♪ smile if your heart is breaking ♪ >> we need to look up, where he is undoubtedly perched in a crescent moonq, and we need to
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smile. b$to >> ♪ i will be there >> trying to find words of comfort, salas, trying to understand why the board has taken our brother -- solace, to return home after such a short visit here on earth. michael, when you left us, a part of me went with you.
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♪ >> ♪ human nature >> michael jackson, who cared and loved the world. >> ♪ we are the world we are the children we are the ones to make a brighter day so let's start giving there is a choice we are making it is true we make a brighter day, just you and me we are the world we are the children we are the ones to make a brighter day, so let's start giving there is a choice we are making
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♪ >> ♪ and i wonder who loves you ♪ >> i want his three children to know that it was strange what your daddy had to deal with, but he dealt with it. >> i just want to say, ever since i was born, daddy has been the best father you could ever imagine. [sobbing] and i just want to say i love him.
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>> ♪ kacarry me ♪ >> ♪ gone too soon >> he will never really gone. he is going to live forever and ever and ever. >> i am at a loss for words. i had his back, and so did the family. but we thank you. that is all we can say. we thank you very much. ♪
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>> ♪ i'm bad i'm bad you know it i'm bad i'm bad you know it ♪ ♪ >> ♪ a better place for you and for me ♪ >> to the outside world, michael was a genius with unchallenged ability. to the people who were lucky enough to know him personally, he was caring and funny, honest,
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pure, non-jaded, and he was a lover of life. >> i love michael jackson. i just went to thank you so much for blessing me and every single individual on this earth with his amazing music. -- i just want to thank you. [applause] greta: tmz's news manager mike joins us. what happened? where did they go? >> it is interesting. because of this technology, we are able to watch the body, on the freeway all the way to the staples center, into staples
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center, cnn live there, but i have to tell you, law enforcement, chp's pulled this one off perfectly. there were zero arrests. they did not go to forest lawn. they are not telling us where it went. nobody followed after that, and i think that was the plan in the beginning, and it was pulled off perfectly. we are told the did not go to forest lawn, but we did not know, and they are preparing the burial right now. greta: the conflict we all feel in this business. high on the one hand, we wanted to give the jackson's privacy in a personal moment, but on the other hand, we are trying to collect the facts -- on the one hand, we want to give the jacksons privacy. we have heard that a helicopter landed at neverland, but we have found out that that was not
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michael jackson. >> there was an interview being conducted tonight with the capital company that owns neverland. there was a special person with a big news agency, and that will probably air tomorrow. the family wanted the body there. i talked about it on your show that it was the plan to go to neverland right away in the beginning, but the family wanted his body there, and they wanted them to see the body, and i think they pulled it off perfectly. it was sentimental, and it was public and private at the same time. greta: you know, it is interesting how well choreographed this whole thing was inside the staples center, no one missing a beat in terms of going up on stage, and they had no time to prepare for this, virtually no time, but it went off so smoothly, order inside there. >> greta, is michael jackson,
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and it was the king of pop, -- it is michael jackson. everybody has a moment with him, and i think that anyone who was a musician or even those a-list musicians, mariah carey, they were going to help their friends, this icon of music. they wanted to be there -- they were going to help their friend. the one moment that stuck out in my mind, his child, his daughter. what an incredibly brave thing for her to do to go up on stage, which you know would not yet been easy for someone that young to talk about her father. i was very surprised and product of her for doing it. greta: yes, that is the moment that we are all going to remember, young paris, age 11. is there a moment that will stick with you? >> i am an old 1980's michael
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jackson man, and i think the brothers coming in together, wearing the glove, where everybody went on stage at the end. everybody knows the words to those songs. even the kids that were not alive when they made those songs and new the words. when you see, like, usher, and you see him singing "we are the world," he was singing in front yards, and everyone was singing it. -- sinead from the heart -- singing it from the heart. greta: a close friend of michael jackson's is next, and coming up, governor palin explains why she is resigning, it did she have regrets, and will she make a good president? and we have speculation. we have a quiz for you.
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greta: inside michael jackson's memorial, we were there. 5:00 >> ♪ it is clear that you influenced us all ♪ greta: but what was it like at
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the memorial for michael jackson's family and friends? a close friend of michael jackson's, a filmmaker, was on the floor. and must have been tough. i think paris was the toughest. >> that broke my heart. it is still breaking. that was probably one of the most emotional things. it just hit me. greta: we are not sure how much they will be in the spotlight, but, boy, how their lives have changed. >> yes, it is so tough. i am actually surprised that after michael past that all of these pictures were coming out with the kids at the mass -- after michael passed. when michael had the kids wear the masks, they thought he was
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crazy, but then the kids could have gone out with their friends and family and not be disguised. michael always told them it was like halloween. he always made it like a game with the kids. greta: so they did every single time they were out with him? >> he did it to protect them so when they were out with the nanny or friends or family, they did not have to do that, and they could be free and have a good time. greta: it was not such a bad idea, in light of the fact that it was such a heavy spotlight on the kids. >> it gave them the opportunity to be kids and to grow up properly and not be limited. only when they were with him were they limited. greta: what was the family tradition? >> neverland was a magical place. everything was magical about it, but there were many times what i was at the house, and michael and the kids would be going on a trip, and the music was always
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playing in the air, and the staff would come out in their uniforms, the nanny, all of the helpers, and they would stand on each side of the walkway, and it was just a very magical, and michael and the kids would walk through, -- it was just very magical, and they watched as they got into the limousine and drove down the cobblestone drive with, and it might as well to have been a chariot awaiting them. greta: the kids now are incredibly rich. when it all shakes out, they are going to be rich kidsí raise them so that they are not spoiled about money -- kat herine. >> to me, they were the most polite, well-brought-up kids, not cocky, not a greedy. i mean, if you were to have met the kids and did not know that
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the father was michael jackson, he would have thought that they were very well-brought-up kids, not spoil -- not cocky, not aggreedy. the majority of the time that i was at neverland, they were in school. greta: we spoke to michael jackson's nurse, and she said that every time she was there, classical music was playing. not pop. >> that is right. it was not michael jackson music. it was classical music, and it was very peaceful. greta: and it would permit it all house. >> not just the house, but the entire anbar in it -- it would permeate the entire house. >> not just the house, but the entire environment. there are speakers in the rocks outside. greta: jackson's nurse gives you
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[captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> i just want to say, ever
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since i was born, and daddy has been the best father you could ever imagine. [sobbing] and i just want to say i love him. [applause] greta: michael jackson's broken hearted daughter paris speaks out for the first time ever. all three of michael jackson's children on stage, together, singing their father's song "we are the world." the emotional response surprised even the producer. >> we had less to the ending of the show. we had asked that the family, and pinkett representatives to talk and say something, but we had no idea -- and pick and rep. i had no idea that the children were going to come up, -- and
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pick a rep to talk. greta: what kind of father was he? michael jackson's nurse spoke about their relationship. but i was surprised when i arrived there, -- >> i was surprised when i arrive there. he came downstairs, and i was, like, wow, he is actually here, so i was shocked to see it. i had only seen him on television. greta: what did he look like? >> he looked great, comfortable, and the most, of human being i had ever met. he was so gracious and said, " thank you, thank you, thank you for coming out. thank you for taking the time to come see my children." greta: what about the house? >> it was absolutely gorgeous. gorges. you could walk in and know that it was a home of love -- gorgeous.
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you can walk into a home, and feel no love, but it was gorgeous. greta: how would you describe their different personalities? >> the oldest child is very, very -- they are very intelligent. very knowledgeable children and he worked with them, even with their history. they were homes schools, and they also knew black history. very good with black history -- they are home schooled. he did a lot of things. he said at dvd's for the ambien he was loving. they what -- dvd's for them. he was loving.
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the personality is outgoing, outgoing. greta: they seemed to live a cloistered life. he did not seem to go out much. you see a lot of celebrities on the street in los angeles, but this family seemed to be behind that wall. >> very, very talented, also. extremely talented. we had so much time that we spent with each other. a couple of times in february. something came up about my birthday, which was the degree 21, -- which was february 21, and i saw in the week after, and he and the children had purchased me a birthday gift, and they had it all wrapped up with a bow on it. when i opened it up, it was a computer. and they said, "come on over here. i will set up for you." i was so grateful that he took
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the time to go and do this for me, and i just kept thinking, and i had tears in my eyes, it was so wonderful, and i gave the kids a hug, and i gave michael a hug. he was big on hugs. love and hugs were freee. -- free. and he was telling the children, "look at her. she is so grateful for this gift. more people need to be grateful." i just found him a very giving and loving person. greta: coming up, governor palin is one of the most talked about politicians in the country, so why is she giving up the governorship? in a moment, you will go to
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the people that i love whom i am serving. it was tough, but at the same time, i know that this was the right decision for me to make for the people of alaska that i love. we are not going to be able to reach our destiny and contributed to the united states, and we cannot do our part of training in the national governor overgrowth until the destructions seas, and the distractions are these frivolous, expensive, wasteful ethics violations, lawsuits, so politics of personal prescription that began august 29, at the day that i was tapped -- 29, the day that i was tapped to run as vp. nothing was going to change. it does not cause the adversaries one dime to play this thing, and it costs caused millions and millions of dollars, the public in alaska and me personally.
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>> the attacks on you and your family, how difficult was that? >> you know what we were getting in for, and it politician expects constructive criticism, which is most helpful. -- and a politician expects constructive criticism. but those who are allowed to lie and to stymie progress and to study and administration, which means to paralyze a state -- and to stymie an administration, at such great cost that that kind of criticism is unnecessary, -- the politics of personal destruction have played such a part in not just our state, other states, too. >> some in your own party inside the beltway have written you off. >> there are as many problems, not as many, but there are problems within the republican machine just as there are in the democrat machine, and that is
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why i am not want to be part of that obsessive partisanship that believes that you have to be a part of the hierarchy of the machine in order to affect change or get elected. i do not buy into that. i never have. i see things unconventionally, much more independent may be than some in the political machine want me to be, but so be it. -- much more independent maybe than some in the political machine want me to be. >> do you want to be president? >> i do not know what the future holds. i think any average, hardworking american, whose heart is in the right place, who has the work ethic that is required, and who can articulate what america needs right now is going to make a darn good president. greta: governor palin's lawyered
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joins us. how many ethics complaints have been filed against the governor since last august? how many have been rendered in your favor? and what has been the cost? >> a total of 15, and a new one was filed yesterday, but all 15 have been dismissed. there was never a finding of a violation of the ethics law, and the cost has been tremendous to work personally, about half of $1 million, and the state has incurred up to $2 million that it has to pay for on its end, along with responding -- responding to public act requests. greta: what was the one filed yesterday? >> there was one filed yesterday against the governor, and previously, it was dismissed. it alleged that you helped the governor violate the ethics act when you interviewed her in her office last january, so this same fellow has now filed a new one, saying it is unethical for
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to accept per dium thpay. greta: so it was simply the location prove that generated it? it was not the content -- so it was simply the location? >> no, i believe that it was the content. the complaint said that you must be talking politics with her on state property, and you are breathing state air, and it was content and equipment. greta: is there something about alaskan procedure that you can file these complaints? i have never seen one governor get so many complaints. is this something unique to alaska? >> well, we have a pretty tough ethics law in alaska, and ironically, it was championed by governor palin. we had one of the most corrupt
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legislatures in history, and we had a history of corruption. she champions in this reform, and there is a loophole here. -- she championed this reform did there are no ramifications for filing a frivolous one, and what has happened is that they have hijacked the process by filing these frivolous complaints in order just to get a headline, and yesterday, was just a perfect day. -- she championed this reform. there are no ramifications. this is how it is being used, and this is out it is being abused. greta: do you think this was part of some concerted effort by some group? what is the origin of these 15 that you have already spoken about? >> some are individual efforts, but we know that there is a group of left-wing associates who have publicly stated that this is a concerted action to
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undermine the administration. they blog about it and rejoice in it, essentially. it is a concerted effort, and it is not accidental or coincidental. greta: have you any reason to believe that it is originating from outside of alaska? >> well, it is out of the playbook. it is out of a left-wing playbook to attack your opponent and attack them personally, he is the system against them, bog them down with things like ethics complaints, make them spend their own money -- and use the system against them. greta: you are simply saying it is done by people who are her political not the democrats in the lower 48 that are doing it? -- who are her political opponents? not the democrats in the lower 48? >> there was one that we believe came from the lower 48, so there
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is some evidence that it is coming from down in the lower 48. while we do know is that there was a close association. there was the official democratic party blockegger last fall -- what we do know is that there was a close association. greta: thomas, thank you. here is a look at what is coming up after this show on "the o'reilly factor." bill: the racial factor with michael jackson. i am not getting this. bernie goldberg will have spots, coming up on "the factor." greta: do not miss that coming up. -- bernie goldberg will have thought. -- thoughts. greta: steve moore is joining us with more on the thought of the second stimulus package.
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says the exiled president may be offered political amnesty. there was a military coup nine days ago after opponents accused him of trying to extend his time in office. the interim government says he faces arrest for criminal acts, including treason. former comedian al franken is now the newest senator from minnesota, sworn in by vice president joe biden on capitol hill today. it gives is party 60 votes needed to overcome possible republican filibuster. al franken takes office after going through an eight-month recount battle with norm coleman. now, back to "on the record." greta: e@x9now, you may not like what you are about two years. one of president obama's economic advisers, laura tyson, says that the stimulus bill was a bit too small and that we should be planning on a
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contingency basis for a second round of stimulus. oh, no, a second round of stimulus? a writer for "the wall street journal," steve moore joins us. steve, a second round? yikes. your thoughts. >> greta, i predicted this would happen. the first stimulus did not work well. we have 9.5% unemployment. now, it is true that we have only spent part of the stimulus package, but it is almost like a python that has swallowed a pig, and the pig is halfway through, and now you are going to put another one in its mouth. if i think our fiscal situation today, greta, is a fiscal catastrophe. we're going to end of all we $2 trillion this year because the economy is worse than we thought, by far the biggest record in history, and you have to ask the question, greta, when do you stop all of this spending
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and start a new strategy? the one thing that is an illustration will not do is cut taxes, which has worked before. it worked for ronald reagan in 1991, and it worked for george bush. greta: vice-president biden and laura tyson have gone laurarogue. -- and laura tyson have gone rogoue. there are 2.5 million more job losses than expected -- have gone rogue. they are going rogue and telling everybody that they got it wrong. >> they really are, greta, and do not forget. before obama went on his trip to russia, he said that recovery was around the corner and to state courts, and then a couple days later, the vice president
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said that things are much more wars than we thought. this is what is going on with the administration. if they seem panic. -- things are much worse. there is no plan b, greta. plan b is just to try plan a again. greta: the possibility of this second stimulus bill, and i am looking at my notes, but it was said "knows second package needed." that is good news. -- "no second package needed." and then joe biden says something contradictory. >> i do not think there will be a second package, greta, because we have to spend money they have already approved. greta: the president needs to rein in his vice president and
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greta: well, you have seen our top stories, but here is the best of the rest. remember former colorado university president of ward churchill? well, he is not getting his job back. he got national notoriety after he wrote an article, and the university fired him in 2007, but not for that s.a. but for plagiarism charges and other accusations of misconduct. -- but not -- essay -- but not for that essay. today, a judge refused to give
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him his job back. and an award winning actor, alec baldwin, is considering leaving the television stage for capitol hill. he is thinking about running for office. he tells "playboy" magazine, "i will tell you this. the desire is there. that is one component. the other component is opportunity." çóñrthere is someone pushing hio run for ohio office. he suggested to run against joe lieberman. but then, he dismissed that as fantasy. anyçó other options? we shall see. all of that acting experience may come in handy in politics. and is president obama head to the doghouse? he slipped up. in a speech in moscow, the president said this. >> i do not know if any of you
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will be york feature a spouse in class. greta: he did not meet her when they were in class. he met her when she was a lawyer. they attended school, but not at the same time. oops. maybe he will remember there and diversity. there you have it. the best of the rest. and what are all these animals entering the staples center? it is the ringling brothers barnum and bailey animal walk, and it happened very early this morning, çó4:00 a.m., elephants and horses heard it here for a new show that starts tomorrow. -- herded here. it is a quick turnaround. still ahead, one more quick round before we turn off the
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greta: 11:00 is almost here. flash the lights. last call. conan o'brien took a shot at a politician last night. which one? no, not governor mark sanford. it was john edwards. >> speaking of political sex scandals, there is a rumor that john edwards made a sex tape with his mistress. yes, sources say it starts off with 45 minutes of john edwards running his fingers through his own hair. [laughter] greta: ouch. anyway, that is your last call. the lights are blinking. we