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they are covering america. this is the foreign desk. every picture that comes into fox news channel comes in through here at the media desk. those live pictures will always be on the right-hand side of the screen. martha: we are getting some news on hugo chavez. first, let me take a look at what we are watching now. in the top box, anguish and discussed in a chicago cemetery. police accuse four people of digging up hundreds of bodies and dumping them. now we know even more about exactly what was happening. in the middle box, a huge fire in london. offices of the major film company burning in the heart of the city. streets in the area are blocked off and more than 50
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firefighters are fire -- fighting the fire. we are hearing that there were two injuries. in the bottom box,ç the first goring death at the running of the bulls in pamplona, spain. it is the first death since 1955. we will take you there. trace: we begin with the battle for the highest court in the land as we gear up for confirmation hearings. the judge will face questioning from her hardest critics. some republicans say that they want to make sure she can separate her personal political beliefs from the constitutional law. çcarl cameron is with us in
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washington, d.c. what can we expect on monday? >> an awful lot of talking in what is to be a marathon grilling for sonia sotomayor. the judiciary committee is known to be a very charged, partisan body. in this case, there are many people who have voted for supreme court nominations. we have now gotten a peak at what we can -- peek at what we can expect in the testimony. at first, she will be introduced, then she will make her remarks. then all 19 senators will be able to make their statements. sunday, question and answer will begin. each center will have a 30-
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minute opportunity to question her. that means on day two of the hearings, it will be 8.5 hours of question and answer, with each center getting a full 30 minutes to g -- senator getting a full 30 minutes to grill her. of course, they will be asking her about that infamous quote, that she wasa wise bettino -- was a wise latino and that may be able to help her come to better decisions. on both sides, democrats and republicans are suggesting, despite all of these doubts, that she will be approved before
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the next court section -- session in october. trace: thank you. martha: after the senate judiciary committee finishes their questioning, witnesses will be called for and against the confirmation. one of the witnesses is with us now. then that chavez is a former linda chavez is a former labor secretary nominee. explain to your role in the process as a witness, as someone speaking against the confirmation of sonia sotomayor. >> i am part of an organization that has long been interested in the subject of whether race and ethnicity should play a role in public policy, the way in which we determine our lost. my goal is to question whether or not judge sotomayor has left
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herç own view on ethnic identiy color for judging. -- determine our laws. martha: she has said that she believed a latino woman could make a better decision that a white male, in many instances. >> i find that offensive as an american. the city has no place in judging whether or not someone should get a job, promoted. that was not the meaning of the civil rights law. now she believes that race should somehow influence the way you view issues. trace: you said, "find out those clamoring for her nomination would be those whose views are
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closer to antonin scalia and then ruth bader ginsburg." >> that is right. we have been through this before. a couple of years ago we had a well qualified young hispanic lawyer, estrada -, who was appointed to the appeals court in washington, d.c. but he happened to hold a relatively conservative view. he was not even given a chance to be voted on, even though he had been nominated. nobody seemed to care that he was hispanic or was going to bring diversity toç the court. frankly, that is appropriate. your ethnicity should not play a role whether or not you will be an appointee. so there is a double standard. trace: and the government should
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not have to enforce at the city. >> that is right. the real issue with her record will be her role in the circuit courtç, when she had the richie case before her -- the new haven firefighter case. she was a judge in the panel that ruled against the plaintiffs, ruling against those white firefighters who did well on that task. the supreme court reversed her position, and i think she will be questioned on that. martha: what are you hoping to achieve in your testimony? what is the best you can hope for, given the fact that it seems to be a foregone conclusion that she will get the nomination? >> i think she needs to clarify her past remarks. she need to clarify her position. she needs to make it clear that
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the role of a judge is not to make policy, not to decide which plaintiff should benefit, based on ethnic identity. the role of a judge is to take a look at bell law and make sure it is being enforced as -- the law and make sure it is being enforced as it was written. martha: it will be very interesting to watch. this is one of the most important roles in the judiciary, and the way we appoint justices. we will be listening closely to your statement. thank you. fox news channel is the place for coverage on this story. on sunday, we are going to kick things off, "and judging sotomayor -- "judging sotomayor."
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trace: meanwhile, president õçobama meeting pope benedict x, calling it a great honor. the two met for 30 minutes and exchanged gifts. greg burke is with us from rome. how would you sum up the meeting? >> friendly and respectful. they do not give you a transcript of what they talked about inside, but certainly, a sign that they were able toç tk for at least 30 minutes -- when it was scheduled for 20 minutes -- is a good sign. the pope said that it was a pleasure to have spoken. there had been a lot of speculation about this visit. certainly, you have to read body language, and it was a friend and respectful, despite their differences.
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i think the vatican when out of its way to show respect for the president here. trace: we are talking about huge differences, stem cell, abortion. how do those differences play into this? >> the pope is definitely not going to shy away from that, but obama gets a bit of a pass because he is not catholic. when speaker pelosi was here earlier, she got a little bit of criticism. i imagine those issues came up, and obama may have said, i will see what i can do, and we will move on. probably american bishops,ç the who were giving president obama a hard time about his notre dame speech, they probably hoped for more scrutiny.
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trace: thank you. martha: they are risking their lives for democracy, literally. once again in the streets of iran, thousands of protesters. how the uprising is shifting from the streets to the halls of power and the back. . and back. my biggest pain's really in my lower back. feels kind of like knives. aleve works all day on my back pain.
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trace: in the top box, gas prices falling. the national averageç now $2.5, down 2 cents from yesterday. in the middle box, president obama getting a warning from hugo chavez. the venezuelan leader saying that the president made a grave error in calling for talks between the president of honduras and oppositionç leade. in the bottom box, the train accident which killed five people outside a detour, michigan. officials now say that a 19- year-old behind the wheel was driving with a suspended license. he also had a number of traffic violations. -- outside detroit, michigan. apparently, he tried to drive around the railroad date.
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we will show you some incredible surveillance video of the crash. martha: incredible shots from iran. back in the streets and fighting for a free iran, chanting death to the dictator. police officers chasing protesters with tear gas. they hit them with batons, according to some of the videos. it is difficult to verify the video coming from tehran right now. the protest, and this time, was timed to commemorate the 10th anniversary of and then the student demonstration at tehran university. some about the crisis was coming to an end, but our next guest says that allç of this is far from over. he is a contributor to the "daily beast."
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welcome to the show. in your recent post, you talked a lot about this student uprising that happened 10 years ago. it is fresh in the mind of these protesters. in those protests, students were killed at tehranç university, d one student became the symbol of all of that. tell us a little bit about this man and the bloody shirt he hold over his head. >> this young man pictured was part of peaceful protest 10 years ago. protests were over the closing of the conservative newspaper. on the sixth day, in the early morning, while most of the students were asleep, security and the revolutionary guard broke into the dorm room,
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started a fire, there were shots fired, and the picture that you see sort of became an icon of that event. it was on the cover of "the economist." he is showing the t-shirt of a fellow student and was shot by security personnel. when the photograph appeared on the cover of "the economist" the police swept into his home and he thenç spent the next 10 yeas in prison. finally, he was temporarily released for medical assistance, and then he used that time to escape from iran and he now lives in washington, d.c. martha: he was in prison for 10 years in iran. you say that he was held for 10 years in a cell the size of a bath tub? ç>> yes, that is how he descris it. he was tortured psychologically
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and physically. he had to endure one mock execution. authorities were trying to tell -- get him to say that this was not blood on the shirt, that it was tomato sauce. he refused to do so, and now he works for a human rights organization. he said something interesting. in the 10 years that have passed since then, protesters have become much more sophisticated in the way they challenge the government. we are seeing that now. 10 years ago students were asking for freedom of speech, freedom of assembly. now they understand how to use the mechanism of the regime against it. what they are trying to do now is a shame the regime, to embarrass it in the public realm, an international community, to say that the regime is not living up to its own standards of morality.
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as you can see on the streets, it seems to be working, in some ways. martha: that is why it is important that we keep talking about it. it is amazing to see and understand what he went through for 10 years. çi hope that you will join us again as we continue to cover this story. trace: the pictures tell the story. general motors the emerging from bankruptcy today, but not without controversy. after getting billions of your tax dollars, some say the automaker is turning its back on american workers in favor of russian workers. çand a heart less crime and a sacred place. workers of a cemetery accused of digging up hundreds of graves just for the money.
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trace: and general motors and is back on the road, are emerging from bankruptcy in 40 days. the ceo calling in a check -- second chance, promising a leaner, greener automaker. but they are already$qáting blasted. after taking billions of tax dollars, and gm is now dropping its contract with its only u.s.- based metal supplier. there is more. they're keeping their contracts with suppliers in south africa and russia. with us on the telephone now is the president of stillwater mining.
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your company mines palladium, which is found in catalytic converters. you have been in discussions for months, but now gm pushes you to the curb, and continues their discussion with south africans and the russians. >> we have been in business partners since 1998. you are correct. we have a multi-year supply contract right now. under bankruptcy rules, they have every right to void our contract. but to keep the contract going with the south africans and russians does not make sense. trace: are you charging too much money? in fairness, they are looking out for their bottom line. was your contract more expensive than the others? >> we do not know what their contracts are. we do haveç prices that are abe
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market, but in our discussions, after we were notified that they would reject the contract, they said that it was not the issue and that they are downsizing and that simply they did not need our product. trace: your take is that american tax dollars are being used against you? ç>> that is exactly what we are worried about. trace: when that happens, when you are talking about jobs. -- the congressional investigation was all about jobs. now how many jobs are we talking about if this goes south? >> we had 1400 people working here. we have already been downsized 20%. we are going to do fine for the second quarter, but the question is, what will do it -- is due to us going forward? trace: in montana gov. is pretty
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irate over this. anything that he can do? >> he has done all he can. we just want to talk to general motors some more. trace: thank you. his funeral is over and done, but the investigation surrounding his death is in the early stages, and we have brand new information about what investigators have found out about michael jackson. here is the big question -- it may very well lead to criminal charges. and a car collided with a speeding train. this is the aftermath. we will take you to the other shine, show you surveillance video of the moments that led up to the crash ears? call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today.
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trace: brand new information on three big stories.
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first illinois and the discovery of more graves being dug up in the cemetery outside chicago. >> hundreds of these graves have been dug up, and the numbers keep growing as investigators keep on discovering new plots. experts and fbi agents are being brought in to help identify those bodies and remains. we are told the process could take weeks or months. trace: it is bonus time again çfor a.i.g. julie banderas has that. >> they are planning to pay $40 million to top executives. you may remember the game out millions of dollars a month ago, sparking a national outrage. well, they are doing it again this time, giving away $2.6 million in bonuses. çtrace: thank you.
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[applause] martha: have you seen the latest on the michael jackson story? imagine having any combination of these drugs at the same time. verset, a powerful sedative. there were iv bags full of a milky white substance. and by all of promethazine. several anti anxiety drugs. a bottle of demerol. all of this was reportedly found in his home. iv stands, vials, randomly
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scattered pills. the coroner wants to talk to the doctor, who you have seen quite a bit, the longtime dermatologist of michael jackson. let me first to bring in our attorney, john kelly. dr. michael dagen is also with us. let me start with you, doctor. -- baden is also with us. how much of these drugs would kill you? >>ç some of those drugs had ben gathered from 2003 when police visited his home. çthe milky white substance, whh
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sounds like diprivan, could have done some damage. a lot of these drugs could cause death. versed is also an anesthetic agent, so they are all dangerous drugs. the problem that tmz found is that many of these drugs were prescribed to people with different names, that doctors were prescribing the drug under false the aliases. martha: let me bring in mike walters, the news manager for gm's you don't come -- tmz.com. talk to me about the investigation. as the doctor just pointed out, they have a million different names, all from different doctors.
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where was he getting them? >> first of all, the coroner told us that they're looking at his background of prescription drug use. we got all of this stuff from the molestation trial. remember, they were looking for accusations of pedophilia, but the drugs were there. not only were there in large quantities of powerful drugs, but there were quite a number of doctors and names. if you look at theç photograph, several employee names are used, and different iterations of his name. if you look at all of this together, and you piece it
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together, he had all of these drugs in his house several years ago,ç in 2003, so if you look at the pattern meeting to his death, it was there then, and there should have been warning signs. he needed people who wanted to help him, not enablers. they found iv's, syringes, and empty bottles of demerol. some people believe that he was self-injecting. martha: it is like a cross between a bad hospital and a drug den. it sounds like there was a ton of stuff around him. is michael jackson to blame, or are all of these other people culpable? >> i believe that those around
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him are currently responsible. these doctors showed reckless indifference, if they were prescribing these drugs for him. this is negligence, and even manslaughter charges, depending on how they judge. in california, if someone illegally provide drugs to another that causes their death, not only can you go after the state of theç provider, but in this case you could be talking about his entire family. the people of that were putting on the tour, all these people can go after the doctors. martha: joe jackson says that he believes there is foul play involved. we all know that they had a difficult relationship, to say the least. we have also heard that the
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family tried to intervene. the family's knowledge of what heç was doing, does that exonerated anybody? if they tried to point fingers come out does it matter? they knew this was going on, supposedly. >> it does not matter. we cannot put the blame on the family. they have their own life. it is a physician-patient position that puts them on the hook. martha: how soon before we know what killed michael jackson? >> that is the key. probably in a few weeks it will be announced. i am sure the coroner's office knows 95% from the toxicology report, and police could be acting on that. the police chief used to be in new york city and he has a
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pretty wide knowledge of investigating and drug deaths, especially with false prescriptions. the chief medical examiner was also trained in new york city. he is a very straightforward, honest person that should be bringing this to a conclusion within a few weeks. martha: what about the reports thatç the coroners had a piecef his brain and are using in in the toxicology investigation? >> i think that is blown out of proportion. it is not uncommon to keep the brain for full studies. this always happens in hospital deaths when permission isç giv. about 10% of medical examinations, the entire brain will be saved for analysis.
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if the family wishes, when the medical examiner's office is finished with the examination, the remaining parts can be reinserted into the casket. that usually does not happen, but it can. martha: thank you. i am sure we will continue to talk about this. thank you, everyone. you are doing a great job at tmz.com. back to you. trace: we have brand new video of a train colliding with a car. look at this. it drives through the railroad crossing. the next moment you see the train flying down the track. the car gets crumpled underneath the train and the train dragged the car for almost 1 mile. inside the vehicle were fine young people. all of them were killed.
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now we are learning that the 19- year-old behind the wheel was driving on a suspended license, as well as a pretty long history of traffic violations. just crossing theç wires, by te way, getting information of parents in florida who had 16 kids murdered. we will bring you much more on that, and black plumes of smoke in golfing central london. dozens of firefighters deployed, and some of them were injured. weç will take you to london. and it was their first date, a hike next to a scenic waterfall. things did not go well. >> i could hear him hitting every rock. multivitamin with more. only one a day men's 50+ advantage...
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murdered. now we are hearing from some other relatives. >> i spoke with my son. they will not let us out, but they knew that they were murdered. trace: they were known for taking in children with troubled backgrounds with developmental disabilities. çin the meantime, a massive fie in london. the smoke could be seen for miles. it began at an office building. 60 firefighters are trying to get this under control. a couple of them were injured. there must have been a major disruption in the city. >> i was going to say, although the fire is contained now, some streets are still closed off. çi think oxford street is still
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closed, and that is a major thoroughfare. dean street runs into oxford, and it was pretty dramatic when we first saw these pictures. we do not know exactly what caused the fire. it started in an office building, a four-story building. the cause has not been confirmed by fire fighters yet, but the streets are narrow, and it is a miracle that the fire did not spread more. soho is in a real impact not only with business this -- offices, but bars and pubs. there was a lot of disruption earlier today, particularly with
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people walking around cafes. thankfully, some minor injuries with the firefighters, but fortunately, no major injuries. the story is pretty much over, but they are still finishing up here. martha: one teenager took his girlfriend to a hiking trip, but the date when quickly south when he suddenly slipped and fell over a cliff, dropping to a 30- foot free fall. his state says that she heard him on the way down hitting rocks. >>ç he lost his footing or something, but he fell and tumbled all the way down, maybe 35 feet. i was just hanging on, hoping that he was going to be ok.
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martha: onlookers called 911, and paramedics were able to airlift him to safety, commenting that he was bruised could do well, but he bounced back. çnow that he has survived, he will never live it down. how about taking your day to the restaurant next time? trace: 1,000 pounds of rage unleashed. we are talking about the running of the bulls in pamplona, spain. we will tell you what happens when a bull goes crazy in a crown.
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trace: in the top box, extreme heat warnings all across texas and oklahoma. we are talking about temperatures near 100 degrees. inç the middle box, a scholar o visited north korea said their communist regime has delayed sending the two american journalists to a prison camp. that could mean that they are looking for talks with washington. we are talking about laura ling and euna lee. in the bottom box, which until you see these pictures. the running of the bulls in pamplona, spain. martha: not a goodç idea. it is the adrenaline rush, heard round the world, when this happens. it turned terribly tragic this
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time around. a young man was courted to death in the street. take a look at the video. this is what can happen. it is an awful tragedy. he was isolated from the rest of the herd. trace: that is not the person that was killed, anyway. martha: you can see him spinning around, he does not know where he is, and that made him very disoriented. we see what happened. we both know people who have done this before. having attended a bullfight recently myself, when you are looking at these animals, they are incredibly strong. mike tobin is with us now. he has done this before.
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a tragic end for this young man. >> i do not know if you can use the word "tragic" because he knew what he was getting into. anyone who steps onto the course realizes that 2,000 pounds of an angry piece is going to come rushing at you. you will then we take that risk. everyone realizes there is a risk. to say it isç dangerous does nt really bear mention. that is sort of the appeal. every year i come on your show and talk about this, but the point i have never made it is that i do not recommend anyone does this, but not for obvious reasons. my nephew talked to me about this. i told him, do not do it, only because i was riddledç with gut after running. when he is by himself, he is
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confused, scared, and beside that, you are leading them into the ring for a bullfight. i thought it was pretty horrible. call me a hypocrite, because i love steak, but i did not enjoy that will act. martha: it is an unusual and unique experience. when you put yourself out there -- and you see these professionals who know what they are doing, and for them it is a frightening experience. there are plenty of occasions, a list of all fighters who lost their lives to these animals. >> exactly, those running in pamplona are at much greater risk than the matadors. in those bullfights, they first exhaust the ball and take the life out of it, before the matador and tears.
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so they really have less risk than those people running down the street with these fresh, round up bulls. trace: mike tobin is an adrenaline junkie. there is no place where he would rather be than running with the bulls or in the middle of a war. i know people who have done this and they say it is a huge adrenaline rush. great to have you here. >> the peril is the appeal. i bet this disaster will mean that more people will showç up next year. trace: the brand new fact of the date is this thing has been going on for 400 years. they do this to move the bulls from the crowd to be bullfighting ring.
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martha: but you do not necessarily need to stand in front of them. çtrace: we would not do it. mike tobin would not have it any other way. shot and left to die in the street. surveillance video of a vicious robbery. it is what happens after the shooting that is even more shocking. .
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[captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- martha: it is friday and we have a lot going on. trace: brand new stories. i want to begin that the national desk. breaking news out of florida. we are talking about a couple who had 16 children. the couple was murdered. >> the couple were murdered. let's take a look at where this is. it is right outside of pensacola right here. we have been doing research, trying to find out as much as we can about the family. 16 kids. 12 of them were adopted. the names of the people are bird and melanie billings.
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they adopted special needs kids. there were cameras to keep the kids safe. they had to keep an eye on the kids. we are hoping that will be an aide to police. another thing we found out, the property was off the road. it was to ensure the safety of the kids. police are working this very hard. we're expecting news conferences within the hour. trace: we will go back to you. parents of 16 children, 12 of them troubled or developmentally disabled. martha: i know you have been concerned about the aig folks and whether or not there will get bonuses. aig is ready to hand out more money. they are asking uncle sam to sign on the dotted line because a number of executives want the president's compensation czar to
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sign off on these promises. give your blessing. this is after taking billions in government bailout. who better than elizabeth from the fox business network to tell us what is going on? they have not paid the government back the money. they want to hand out how much money? >> it is about $450 million. a lot of it will go to the financial products division. they cooked up the crazy insurance products. martha: you are saying these bonuses would not go to people who were in separate parts of the business who did well. >> here's the deal. it is a lot of money. the bonus is what caused these things to be brought out. people fail to realize -- it is a complicated story. they need to keep these people
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in the seat. the contracts for these insurance products they have sold say that if that executive walks off the debt -- off the job, that contract becomes null and void. more money night -- might need to be given into a ig to settle. martha: in order to keep the investment whole, these people have to carry out their jobs. i don't understand why management at aig does not say to them, instead of the $3 million you were going to get, this year you get $500,000 and work it back up. we need to negotiate to make sure we do what is in the best interest of the company. >> the fear is that that person will quit. martha: so many people lost their jobs. i want to know who these people are that are walking away. >> that is the controversy. that is the good point.
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ken feinberg cannot nix those bonuses yet. maybe you will see the bonus pool shrinking down the road. it is not happening now. martha: stay with us in the thinking here. beyond the story we are talking about, elizabeth feels there is something else you need to know about what is going on at aig. >> henry paulson, when aig collapsed that fateful weekend in september, turned to goldman sachs, who bought the insurance on these crazy bonds, and said, aig will make you whole. you will get 100%, 100 cents on the dollar for what you have paid for these products. the issue is that $54 billion in taxpayer money went out the aig front door to settle these wall street traits. these bonds were allowed to be priced checked -- price-
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tagged by these companies. i am going to get the balance in insurance. martha: they were made whole on their deal. >> it would make the bonds worth more and get more taxpayer money out of aig. it would be an aig insurance payout. that is the question congress needs to address. it is not happening now. it could happen next week. martha: i know you are doing your best to put the issue on the table. we will see if it gets evaluated. thank you. trace: that story keeps getting worse. more grisly news out of the cemetery in suburban chicago. hundreds of bodies were dug up
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and dumped into a mass grave at the back of the property. others were double stacked in existing graves. it is part of a scheme by four cemetery workers to reap more than $300,000. the grim discovery has sent shock waves throughout the community. >> this is a haunting fact. this is deeply emotional. we went over to the back where they threw the caskets and crushed them, the cement containers were crushed. trace: they keep finding more. they are following this live in chicago. how was this able to happen? how did it go on for so long? >> the sheriff said today that the employees actually committed these gruesome acts after the families and the visitors had left for the day.
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three suspects, four suspects, three grave diggers and one office manager targeted sites that were not visited very often. when they dumped the corpses, the put them into an overgrown area. the suspects accepted only cash for the burials. they told families the process would be quicker that way if they received cash. they did not leave much of a paper trail. this scheme was exposed after an employee who represents the cemetery owners finally went to police. trace: to people who have relatives there, do they know of the grave sites still exist or what happened to the remains? >> some of them do. the sheriff said that since yesterday alone, 2000 families have made their way to the cemetery. if they are visitors that "often, they can find out for themselves. they can go to the gravesite and sea of their family member was a
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victim of the crime. for those who either had a loved one pass away a long time ago or they are from out of town, it is more difficult. what is compounding the difficulty is the fact that the fbi cannot even get a hold of these records of who is placed where because the records have been destroyed. trace: back to you with breaking news. thank you. martha: look at this one village in the west bank. you see the difficulty of achieving peace in the middle east. battling goes on every day. the wall divides the people. israel says it keeps up suicide bombers. reena joins us now from jerusalem. >> this whole dispute over this barrier, the separation barrier, that is why the protests take place every friday in this exact
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location. palestinians have complained that this barrier divide their land, making it very difficult for their lives. the israeli government has said that this has significantly stop suicide bombings in israel, which it has. our crew found ourselves and the middle of these protests where tear gas and water cannons were being dispersed. they're setting up what appears to be tear gas. these are israeli military clashing with what our peace activists. they are protesting the separation barrier. take a look behind me. the barrier has stopped quite a few suicide bombings. it has been one of the biggest successes in israel. this cuts right through palestinian territory. they're trying to push up to this offense to gain access and possibly crossover. you can see the tear gas coming
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out right now. they released a water cannon and sprayed people with a non-lethal substance. it smells like a skunk. right now they're firing tear gas. i cannot see. [coughing] these protesters complained that they did not come with weapons. they were not armed. they say every week that the israeli military uses excessive force. it gets a little bit worse. that has been an issue that the israeli military is getting more aggressive as the protests continue every week. martha: courageous reporting. thank you very much for bringing that story home for everybody in the united states. trace: the man who grabbed her arm was the bureau chief in jerusalem. that is the guy you want to be with in that situation. a woman's desperate cries for
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martha: police in jersey city releasing video of a robbery last month. we would like to warn you that these pictures are disturbing. there were two attackers that robbed and shot a man, leaving him wounded. you can see the victim unable to speak, lying on the road. he has not been able to tell investigators exactly what happened. he is in a coma. the video is shocking for its brutality and the cars that are driving by as this man lies bleeding on the ground. four police got to the scene. not one person in this video stopped to help. the question is, why? why do we do that? what would you do in this kind of situation? ask yourself. we have been asking our viewers.
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joining me is a psychotherapist. the big discussion when we see this tape come after we learned a little about what happened, beyond the fact of the story, why? what would you do? i said, i think if i felt it was a dangerous situation, i would pull over and call 911. >> you would. martha: maybe that is not as courageous as someone who would help this person. trace: i would try and get out. i saw a rollover accident in california and the first thing you do is you get out and see if the people are ok. it is instinct. to see people just drive by, it is like, well -- >> what about the people who do not respond and do nothing? there are people who are absolute killers. the other people go into bunny freeze mode to stay safe.
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their two solutions to be saved. one is the powerful. the other one is to absolutely nothing. speak to no one. feel nothing. maybe they will be safer that way. trace: parents teach their kids, if somebody needs help, you help them. what happens? have we shown this video of connecticut's? martha: that is a different story. this is the jersey city story. trace: he was mowed down and people were walking by. >> violence brings up those situations where the people share nothing, do nothing, feel nothing. trace: he is hit by a car right there. people on the sidewalk are just watching. he is in the street dying. this guy just walks by.
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he is hit. my goodness, my goodness. do you want to help him? no, we will stand here and watch. martha: they are different situations. you see this man get hit. the other one is a shooting. morley, logically, what is the difference? when you think there might be gunfire flying around or you might be in danger -- >> there is no time in the mind. what i did when i had extreme violence as a little kid is what i'm going to do now. i am going to freeze. i'm going to shut my feelings down. i am not going to say anything. if i did not have extreme situations, i might do what you suggested. it depends upon how i saved myself as a kid. martha: people could say, this could be a drug deal. there could be more shooters. >> you could at least call. martha: that is the one thing
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everybody can do and not be in peril. >> it comes from a long time ago and shoots right up to the brain. trace: the gunshot thing goes back to the 1964 case. a woman was raped and killed and people were just looking out their windows and shutting their windows. >> the killer said he has to attack women who cannot defend themselves because when he was a little, he does not want to be reminded of being little. when he is big, he is going to get back. martha: we all think about these things. what would you do in these situations? >> call 911. i would do whatever i could do. trace: we ask you, if you can across a person in danger, what would you do? we have a tweet. stop. i went out of my way in a parking lot to close a car door.
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paul says he would stop in a heartbeat. it is the right thing to do. another person writes, it depends on what danger. at the least, i would call 911. if they were in a situation where i could help without getting killed, i would help them get out of it. everybody would help. you put yourself in that position. what would you do? martha: you do not know unless it is happening in front of you. >> you need to know who you are and what defense you used when you were little. martha: thank you. a veteran of the washington press corps admits that the media did not treat sarah palin fairly in the presidential campaign from the day she was chosen as john mccain's running mate.
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martha: take a look of the top box. the picture of senator roland burris not running for reelection to the senate. he will announce that at 3:00 p.m. eastern time today. he was appointed to sell -- to phil president obama's seat and was embroiled in a controversy that he was linked to rod blagojevich. lance armstrong testing his legs today in the mountains of spain, climbing from sea level up to 7,000 feet. he is in the seventh stage of the tour de france.
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it will run through july 26. countdown to blast off. nasa hoping 3 is the charm for the shuttle endeavour. lift off the set for tomorrow night from the kennedy space center in florida. two previous attempts to launch were scrapped. trace: time for something you rarely see in the mainstream media. a reporter says the media give sarah palin a raw deal in the presidential race and gave joe biden a pass.
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trace: with us now is the vice president of the young americans foundation and former virginia gop chair. dan is a columnist for "forbes." kate, is anybody surprised at this? when you heard this, were you like, big surprise? >> i was not surprised at the conclusion. i was surprised somebody would come out and admit this. from day one when sarah palin came out and was announced, the media immediately some of the positive response of hard- working, average americans to this woman, this former mayor, this governor of alaska. they saw that intensity and they immediately went after her. high-profile woman, accomplished, all of the things that supposedly the left wants in woman candidate. she had them. she was insulting them. from the beginning, it was their determination to bring her down.
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trace: i want to bring up this peggy noonan quotation. she wrote speeches for george h. w. bush. trace: what she is saying there is, she is not good enough. the media pounced because she was in over her head. >> i tend to agree. i think there is an element of truth to what carl said. at the end of the day, americans took the measure of sarah palin. it is not about intelligence. it is about confidence. she did not inspire confidence that she was ready. trace: look at this.
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i asked someone come and give me a list of joe biden's gaffes. they could not put it on one card because it was like the. sarah palin that triple the coverage abiding bat. joe biden, a gaffe after gaf -- triple the coverage and joe biden got. joe biden, gaffe after gaffe. >> sarah palin mopped the floor with joe biden. it was only in the media that joe biden won over her. it was said that palin did not have the qualifications to serve as vice president. look at qualifications of the man running for president. they focused on the the mother of her own baby, the clothes she wore. trace: the satellite trucks
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could not have filled anchorage anymore. it was unbelievable, the media presence up there. yet come on the other side, nothing. -- yet, on the of the side, nothing. >> i take issue with what kate said. the idea that sarah palin won over joe biden is ludicrous. if you look at the polling after the campaign, one of the biggest decisive factors of why people did not vote for mccain was because of sarah palin. she was the biggest negative draw on that campaign. trace: maybe the gop should look for the most brilliant mind. >> she has common sense. what she says resonates with americans who are working hard to put their kids through school and to buy groceries. they see the federal government stepping on all of their rights and expanding. sarah palin is the one person talking about it.
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peggy noonan, god bless her for the good she has done, but she represents the elite, inside the beltway approach. sarah palin does not do it that. she does things thrown away. trace: 10 seconds. >> sarah palin does resonate with a chunk of the electorate. her challenge was made harder by pronouncement in convincing the metal that she is competent and ready to be president. trace: the debate will go on. thank you. there is breaking news coming into the newsroom. the cia director leon panetta has terminated what he calls a very serious covert program. the spy agency was kept secret from congress for eight years. this is from the a congresswoman, a democrat from illinois, and a subcommittee chairwoman. the details are classified. she says panetta said he was stunned that he had not been
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informed of the program until nearly five months into his tenure as director. this program began after the 9/11 attacks. the new general motors ready to hit the road. the carmaker is reinventing itself once again. >> army trucks on the assembly line. they will have to meet the test of driving conditions. trace: that was the last time gm reinvented itself.
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trace: we have new information on three big stories. roland burris is about to make a
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big announcement. steve centanni is following that. >> he is set to announce an end date for his brief and controversial membership in the senate. he was. under cloud by rod blagojevich, who was impeached for trying to sell the senate seat. burris never gained much of a foot hold. he decided not to run for reelection in 2010. the announcement is expected in half an hour. trace: no -- new word the cia is looking into congressional briefings. catherine herridge is following breaking news. >> a short time ago, a democrat on the house intelligence committee told fox that she believed the cia "kill the very serious covert program that was hidden from congress after 9/11." a senior official tells me that account is not accurate. they said the program was never fully operational. we confirmed the cia is conducting an internal review into the briefing process for
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congress. trace: catherine herridge. to the weather center, where his time matches the weather map. hot across -- his tie matches the weather map. hot across the country. >> dallas, 99. we have seen some areas already at 110. yesterday, oklahoma got up to 150 degrees, the highest temperature in the entire state of oklahoma since 1996. we have heaped advisers from kansas all the way through texas. this will be with us through the weekend. trace: bottom of the our updates for you. martha: have you heard the news? gm is out of bankruptcy. that was passed. just 40 days. fritz henderson says it was a brand new day. a brand-new way for gm. take a look. >> with the new gm, we need to
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make the customer the center of everything. if we do not get this right, nothing else is going to work. it is that simple. martha: how did they do it? going from $176 billion in debt to $48 billion in debt, slimming down, weeding out some of the board members that were the cronies of former ceo rick wagoner. we will bring in the man that has been on this all along. a lot of people look at the things that were done at gm and say, they could have done these things on the run before we gave them $50 billion. >> i just said that to fritz henderson. i was just up and spent some time with fritz henderson. i drank a little bit of kool-aid while i was there. they do have a plan. they have accomplished a tremendous amount in a short
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period of time. i asked, why couldn't you have done this before? some of the balance sheet stuff they could not have gotten done any other way. they got rid of the labor costs that they had. it would have been hard to do in any other way than a bankrupt company. the restructuring could have been done. we can cry over the spilled milk of before or we can try some new milk. they have pretty good cars to sell. we will see how it goes. we have a lot invested in it. martha: let's bring in the rest of our panel. we have the mayor of lansing, mich., and an ardent supporter of the auto industry. our other guest will be filling in for glenn beck tonight. we have had some heated discussions about gm and the auto industry over the last several months. when i look at the things that they did, getting lean, they are
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down to four brands. the cadillac, buick, the chevy, the gmc. they cut jobs. i say, these are the things that look old me mentioned many months ago. make it lean, get most of your lines of cars. you have to lay some people off. how come it took close to $30 billion in taxpayer money to come to these conclusions? >> let me eat a little humble pie. he said bankruptcy would not be that bad. it is wrenching for a lot of people who lost their jobs. it is quicker than i thought it would be. i think the company is emerging stronger. i think they're well-positioned. i'm very hopeful. i feel like it is sunshine in lansing again. we have an opportunity. we have two of the latest plant. i believe we have great productive capability. these companies make award
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winning cars. they are better today than they have been before. i am worried that we need manufacturing in this country. we need a commitment by government to have manufacturing in this country, and fair trade. if we do not get that fair trade, three or five years from now, we could be back in the same boat, or gm could be a company that is more than international company and doing little production here. martha: i find it shocking what has to be done to get this company to do the right thing. they needed to renegotiate deals. every single company that struggle to survive in this country had to do what gm had to do. they had a huge amount of money from you and me and everyone else. >> gm is a welfare program that makes cars. we have put $50 billion into gm alone.
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the auto workers will not be able to compete. you want to buy american. people will buy a ford. gm will never be able to compete with ford. these companies are in the business of making smaller, more fuel-efficient cars. they have a lot of catching up to do. $50 billion, no way. martha: talked to me about the board. this is another thing i have been hollering about. boards have to do their jobs. there is a novel idea that the board will be involved in the company and they will say no when they see something that they feel is against their fiduciary responsibility to shareholders. should we believe that they mean that? >> gm for years had a very docile board, or that went along with them. they would say, it was a
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tremendously complex company. if banks are too big to fail, if anything was too big to fail, it was gm in that it was so large and so huge. carmakers need to be big, but any volume. maybe gm got too big and too out of control. the board will now be the steward of our money. >> bob lutz they charged with coming up with new ideas. he has been around 400 years. they are not turning the corner. they moved a few people out and a few people up. nothing has changed. >> can i make a couple of points? i know you will not like this, but i have to bring up wall street. you want to beat up on gm for the lackadaisical attitude, please. let's look at the lackadaisical -- look at the lack of
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leadership in these wall street companies that got huge bailout. tit-for-tat. martha: the lackadaisicalness of boards goes across a huge sector of this country. i have no favorites. their job is to do the right thing by the shareholders. >> we agree on that. >> this is going to be a very different board than they had before. ed whittaker is a tough guy. >> in terms of gm's competitiveness, instead of throwing them under the bus, they are great company. excuse me. the only created the middle class in this country. they helped to create the middle class. the made great product and help us win world war ii. they will help us win future economic wars. martha: the bottom line is when somebody goes, i need a new car.
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what show room will they walk into? thank you very much. >> to give gm a shot. -- give gm a shot. trace: breaking news coming out of illinois. roland burris will make what we are told is going to be a major announcement in chicago that he will not run for reelection in 2010. this should happen in the next 15 or 20 minutes or so. the announcement follows news that burris will not run to keep his seat. he said is -- he said it is because he had to choose between spending his time raising money, and he has very little support and is not raising money, or he said he can do the people's business. the junior senator from illinois took over the seat vacated by president barack obama and has been plagued by scandal, by accusations that he was involved in the rod blagojevich pay to
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play. that is yet to be resolved. what is about to be resolved at the top of the hour in a chicago hotel room as the future of roland burris. it will not include the u.s. senate anytime past the year 2010. much more on that. staggering budget cuts and a california hitting just about everyone. one cutback could actually be good for families there.
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trace: the state of california has been paying for the child care of those on welfare. those people on welfare can presumably go out and look for jobs. los angeles is looking to save $140 million by taking away that state-sponsored child care. anita is following this live. what is the new deal? >> that is the new deal. this has already passed in l.a. county. the supervisors passed this proposal. it is up to sacramento to give it the green light. they took a look at this program. what can we cut? the governor is talking about eliminating welfare. they looked at the child care component of the welfare to work program. it is so expensive, maybe parents who are receiving welfare benefits are better off staying home and taking care of their own kids. that means they cannot go out
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and do job training and education and get a job. trace: who does this hurt, ultimately? >> it does hurt a number of people who are diligently trying to fill out the requirements of this program. we spoke to a woman, a 32-year- old, who has three children. she is earning her associate's degree. she has a job as a legal secretary and she is hoping to turn it into a full-time job after she graduates. if she does not have anyone to take care of her kids, she will not be able to carry out those things. it will hurt people like that. administrators are hoping this will only be temporary. trace: anita, thank you. martha: i am over here. rick folbaum is right here. what is coming up? >> we are watching chicago. we are waiting for a senator
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burris to come out. you almost knew this was going to happen. they would not let him in on his first day of work. martha: he will not run again. will he run for president? >> it is chicago. you never know. martha: i think i will run for president. what the heck. >> we will also talked to a scientist. we are wondering if there is a sign of bigger things to come in california. there's a story of a swim club that invited campers to use their pool. it was a mixed ethnic group of kids. there were told, we do not want you to come back any more. we will talk to the executive director. martha: that did not give you a warm feeling. that is coming up at the top of
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martha: an 11-year-old boy really knows the name of a saying that a journey of 1,000 miles begins with a single step.
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there he is. zack bonner took that first step from tampa, walking 1,225 miles, all the way to washington d.c. to raise awareness. he dragged his red wagon and carried the message, hundreds of them, to the president. he joins us now with his amazing act of charity. good to have you. welcome. what inspired you? i have a 10-year-old son. what inspired you to do this, to walk to washington? >> i heard a documentary about somebody who walked on a hundred 25,000 miles.
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i just wanted to do it, and hopefully it'll raise a lot of awareness. martha: and why homeless children? >> i am really not sure. homeless children have always been a cause that i am just a very interested in helping with and helping to solve. martha: you talked about a boy you met their named cory brown. tell me about how that helped to keep going. >> is always really cool to get to meet homeless children. it is always an experience. just to hear their stories and suggestions. and when you are tired of walking and do not want to walk
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anymore, you should keep going. they do not get to quit being homeless. so why should i get to put walking when i'm tired? martha: you are an inspiration. we wish you a lot of luck. you will keep walking, right? >> right. we're trying to do a walk next summer to los angeles to raise awareness. trace: it is a great line -- they do not get to quit being homeless because they are tired of being homeless. you are a tremendous kid, and i want to say it is great to see you on. thank you. i want to see your tennis shoes. how many pairs to go through? >> about two or three.
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martha: even michael faust
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cannot win them all. but it like he could last summer, didn't it? he went and withdrew from the 100 meter freestyle at the championships in indianapolis. the 14-time gold medalists as he had a can in his neck yesterday. it makes it kind of hard. he thought the pain was worth at this morning -- worst of this morning. do you think he can make a comeback? what do you think? trace: he is the greatest swimmer ever. i've never seen anything like that. phenomenal, just phenomenal. make a comeback and win every gold medal without any doubt. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- martha: thank you for watching, everybody. do not leave. do not leave.

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