Skip to main content

tv   Hannity  FOX News  July 10, 2009 9:00pm-10:00pm EDT

9:00 pm
sean: tonight. >> we're not having earmarks in the recovery package, period. sean: oh, really? >> $16 million of the stimulus money to take care of the salt marsh harvest mouse. sean: ruth bader ginsberg admits why she really supports abortion. mr. president, what are you looking at there? >> what i saw is what i saw. >> i was scared out of my mind. sean: and the search for elusive creatures known as werewolves, and karl rove and mike huckabee, "hannity" starts right now. as a second bill sweeps through
9:01 pm
congress, the wasteful bills are now coming back to haunt democrats. during the debate over the first stimulus, the president and democratic leaders including princess pelosi denied that any earmarks or pet projects would be included in the bill, but now we know that is a flat out lie, it is not true. in fact, one of the pet projects that republicans criticized the most was funding for the protection of an endangered rodent called the salt marsh harvest mouse that happens to, by the way, live in in nancy pelosi's district. she long denied it would be in the bill, and several months ago her office said the speaker nor her staff had any involvement in this initiative. this is another contrived partisan attack, but as minority leader john boehner revealed at a press conference in washington, it turns out this was no partisan talking point. >> the democrats claim no, no,
9:02 pm
we're not going to fund this, it's not in the bill, it's not going to happen. well, guess what? $16 million of the stimulus money was appropriated to take care of the salt marsh harvest mouse. sean: with the possibility of a second stimulus on the horizon and the debate over the president's trillion dollar health care plan looming, can people in washington like nancy pelosi be trusted with spending your and our money? joining us now the fox news contributor karl rove. karl, you had a great piece, the numbers do not add up in the "wall street journal." we cannot trust the numbers that is being sent our way now. >> yeah, look, my point in the column was that when we were sold the stimulus bill by the obama administration, the president and the vice president said it would go to create jobs, it would have an immediate effect, that if we did it, we would see these kind of results, and if we didn't do something, we would see things bad. well, we did, congress did what they wanted, they passed the
9:03 pm
bill, $787 billion, and we're finding the money is not being spent quickly, and it's not having the results that were promised. unemployment is 20% higher than what the obama administration said it would be if we did nothing, and that's a pretty -- that's being off pretty far, and now they're turning around and making the same kind of promises on health care. sean: this is on the very week that joe biden said we blew it, we misread the data, nobody guessed right, but yet they told us it was the worst economy since the great depression. tim geithner said the economy is going through a healthy adjustment as americans go back to living within their means, so i guess the lecture is deal with it, deal with our high unemployment, forget the promises we made. >> and vice president biden couldn't even get that line out without being wrong. i mean he said we followed the blue chip consensus. well, the blue chip consensus
9:04 pm
pointed to a bigger dip and worst unemployment, so if they followed that, they would have been focused on getting something done now that would have had an impact on jobs now instead of taking every big spending program that they could off the shelf that had not been passed and stuff it in a bill and slap a label on it called stimulus. this bill spends more money between september 30th, 2011, and september 30 of 2019 than it does in this fiscal year. the problem is now let's be putting tax cuts and safety net programs out that have an immediate impact now, not doing what they did, come is blow up in cost of government permanently by putting a bunch of money out there that's going to be spent for the next ten years. sean: those of us that read numbers understood it's sort of like laurel and hardy or abbott and costello, you pick whatever pair you like, traffic and weather together, come is a great radio line that you hear on radio stations.
9:05 pm
if in fact -- it's sort of like spending and taxes go together. you've got to -- if you're going to spend all that money, taxes are going to necessarily follow. here's the problem. axelrod even acknowledges taxes may go up on the middle class, barack obama made a george herbert walker bush like statement. he said look, under my plan, no family making $250,000 is going to see their income tax go up, any form of tax increase, payroll tax, not any tax. is he on the verge of breaking a major promise now to the american people? >> well, look, he's already broken that promise. when they passed the tobacco bill, and i'm not an advocate for smoking, but they passed a tobacco bill earlier this year to raise the price for anybody that has that habit, and a lot of those people don't make $250,000 per year. if you look at their plans, whether it is their plan for taxing soft drinks or fast food, there's no way that you can walk up into a mcdonald's and say
9:06 pm
here's my income tax return i made less than $250,000 last year, so i don't need to pay your soft drink tax. who do they think they're kidding? the purpose behind this is to make it so expensive and to drive the deficit so far out of reach that the only result is people feel compelled to adjust themselves to having a big tax increase or cutting spending in other places like for the military, and either way it's a bad way to run the government. sean: the other thing is i think americans are beginning to pay attention. i mentioned this mouse out in san francisco. they're paying attention to that. the polls show more americans now are blaming obama for the bad economy, rasmussen, "wall street journal," the country's on the wrong track, americans oppose the stimulus, the g.o.p. leads on not only economic issues and national security issues, more americans view themselves as conservative, they think the democrats are too liberal, and independents now have moved toward republicans. what does it mean for the
9:07 pm
republican party in 2010? >> well, you're right, the conditions are getting better for republicans, and guess what? i think that last item you touched on prestages even further movement because what we've seen in the last couple months is on issues like health care and the stimulus that independence has moved from a position of enormous support for the obama initiatives to either opposition for it or to a more neutral position, and i think that's a trim line that's likely to continue because a lot of those independents are being driven by these huge continue numbers that they're seeing slapped on these programs. when you start talking routinely about programs that have cost tags that are hundreds of billions or even trillion dollars, that starts to scare a lot of people, and what i think it means for 2010 is if it causes a lot of good candidates to say you know what, next year's going to be a year of opportunity if i want to run as a republican. if that happens then by next year i suspect we're likely to see a lot of very high quality
9:08 pm
candidates running in races that are likely to become republican victories next fall. sean: i think now people are beginning to say all right, these are their deficits, this is their debt that they're created for our kids and grandkids. there was a report with one congressman saying unemployment in michigan could go as high at 20%, they promised it wouldn't go above 8%, warren buffet says it will go to 11%, the gao says they're misappropriating stimulus funds, they're not even spending the money right. it seems to me -- i would think that the people that especially worked under hillary clinton would have known better because it reminds me a lot of 1993. >> look, they made promises to us about the stimulus bill, and not living up to those promises means they need to live with their people's reaction to it, and people are reacting negatively. i don't know if you saw the "usa today" story, not exactly a conservative outlet, but the story pointed out that places that voted for obama are getting
9:09 pm
a lot more money than places that voted for mccain. that shows -- we'll have to see if that trend holds up, but if that's true, if they are slanting these funds to places that are political important to them, that shows that their motive is not creating jobs, but buying influence. sean: we continue, ruth bader ginsberg supports abortion but dropped a bombshell when discussing roe v. wade coming up next, plus it was a favorite on "hannity's america," tonight conspiracy theory month returns. what's it about? that and more straight ahead.
9:10 pm
9:11 pm
9:12 pm
sean: and in "your america" tonight, ruth bader ginsberg has a long established record as an abortion supporter, but in an interview with "the new york times" she made a stunning admission about political forces at work when the court handed down its decision in roe v. wade. population control? that's certainly a pro abortion argument that i have not heard in a while. joining me now is former arkansas governor, the host of "huckabee," mike huckabee. >> thank you, sean. sean: what does it sound like to you? >> there are two things that are troubling. she's openly saying that abortion is a form of population control. one of the things that many of white house are pro-life have always been concerned about, that people would see it this way. she readily admits something that the left typically denies.
9:13 pm
the second thing is when she makes this comment and says people that we don't want that many of, my gosh, oh, my. sean: who are those people? is it conservatives? >> i'm sure we're on the list, but that goes back to that sort of very selective -- margaret sanger, the founder of planned parenthood, if you really understand what she was about, this was the goal, and that is to have almost a selective kind of breeding of humanity. it is extremely frightening. sean: this raises a lot of moral, ethical quandaries and dilemmas, governor. we are now at the point where people can choose the sex of their children. we're at the point that literally people looking into -- well, i would like my child to have blue eyes, blonde hair. >> propensity toward math, i'd like him to show up speaking mandarin. it's just amazing how far this goes. sean: that's one way to put it. >> honestly, the buffet of baby
9:14 pm
making, and go through the line, pick out the features you'd like. sean: the reality is that would result then in the what, death of how many innocent children? >> we've already seen 100 million babies that have been aborted prior to their birth since 1973. when you think about that -- exskew me, 50 million, but 50 million out of a nation of 300 million, that's a lot of children, that's a generation. sean: i don't see this issue galvanizing the american public, although the latest poll shows it's almost 50-50 on abortion. >> the critical thing about that, that gallup poll that shows that more people now call themself pro-life, the reason that the point has tipped is because younger women tend to be more pro-life than their mothers and grandmothers. a lot of that is due to the fact that for the first time younger women now sease sonograms.
9:15 pm
sean: after days after conception you can see a heart beating. barack obama was the most outspoken person in the illinois state senate against the born alive infant protection act. all that act would do if there was a botched abortion and there was a baby living outside of the womb on its own, it would guarantee that that child had a right to medical care, and he was a forceful -- in forceful opposition to this. >> that is a more liberal position than that of barbara boxer, dianne feinstein, any left wing democrat in the entire united states congress. his view truly is way left of the average leftest. sean: was i wrong in concluding because i saw the presidential meeting with the pope earlier today. was i wrong in concluding -- do you think the pope would bring this up, and why didn't more people get inspired by that story? we had a nurse on this program that told the story of a botched
9:16 pm
abortion and a baby that was literally thrown in the soiled utility closet, and she held that baby till it died, 45 minutes later, no medical care. >> jill sannic is her name. she's a wonderful compassionate nurse, and she understands that as a nurse, her job is to save life, not to destroy it. sean: but it didn't compel catholics to vote against barack obama, it didn't -- it didn't impact the election, let me put it that way. >> and i don't understand that from the pro-life standpoint. people are beginning to see the statements that he made that said hey, look, i'm not for abortion, the truth is he's just not going to do anything that will defend the life of an unborn child. sean: let me ask you some of the questions i was going over with karl rove, and we've been going over for the last two nights in this program the decline in the popularity of barack obama. he's got his lowest approval
9:17 pm
ratings that he's had, more people see him and the democratic party and spending too much, far too liberal, the country is for too conservative, and people are scared to death about the debt and the deficits. what does that mean politically for 2010 with the decline in the economy, with the admission that the stimulus didn't have the impact they thought it would? >> it's going to be great for the republicans strategically. they're going to be challenged tactically, not strategically. our message as republicans if we will once again embrace a conservative message of less government, lower spending, and an adherence to fiscal responsibility, and not this crazy debt, the problem is that tactics of the democratic party with the in roads of acorn, the extraordinary money advantage that they're going to have, and the use of technology and digital platforms like social networking, face book, twitter, et cetera, they're really good at that, and that's where republicans are going to have to get a whole lot better. sean: if we look at the numbers
9:18 pm
now, corzine can lose in new jersey, bob mcdonald could win in virginia, harry reid could be defeated. if you were to look at your most optimistic projection, what do you think the republicans could realistically pull off in 2010? >> we could get back to close to parity. there are some great republicans lining up. in was in alabama in huntsville not long ago. there's a great guy name les phillips, he's an african-american conservative, naval academy graduate, former navy pilot, he's the whole package. i look at guys like that, and i see that we have some terrific candidates who are standing up speaking out, and i think they're going to give us a great reason to be optimistic in 2010. sean: we'll be watching this weekend on "huckabee." >> thank you. sean: who's singing this weekend? >> tanya tucker. sean: willie nelson, tanya
9:19 pm
tucker? i'm wondering if you're really playing or if you're sort of lipsyncing. >> i'm teaching america how to play the bass guitar. sean: still to come tonight conspiracy theory month is back. you're going to hear firsthand accounts from people who say they came face-to-face with a werewolf? we'll also show you what share calling video proof that these creatures exist.  come on, girls with limp, lifeless hair...
9:20 pm
full & thick from pantene. it just got the good housekeepg g seal. you wanna know why? the full & thick collection really leaves the hair full. starting at the roots, your hair lifts a and away. look at all this body. and that's gonna last all day. [ stacy ] a little expert advice. full, thick-looking results the leading salon brand can't beat. full & thick from pantene. hehealthy makes it happen. you'd think it would be something out of your control. not necessarily. after menopause, when a woman has a fracture, the underlying cause could be osteoporosis. and that's a fracture that might have been prevented.
9:21 pm
if you have post-menopausal osteoporosis, you could be at high risk for fracture. which is why i hope you'll call now 1-800-316-4955 for this free information kit. in it, you'll see the difference between the inside of a strong bone and the inside of an osteoporotic bone, weakened and prone to fracture. you'll find ways to help reverse bone loss and to help prevent fractures. learn how to help maintain strong bones. and read about an effective treatment option. there's even a guide to use when you talk to your doctor. osteoporosis is that important. another surgeon agrees with me. the surgeon general. ...half of all women 50 or older will suffer an osteoporosis-related fracture in their lifetime. call 1-800-316-4955.
9:22 pm
sean: and tonight on our "great american panel" he is a former
9:23 pm
white house communication director for president george w. bush, kevin sullivan is here, he is the president of the institute of the black world radio talk show host ron daniels is with us, and she is a political consultant and fund-raiser, republican strategist noelle nikpour is back here with us. good to see you. thanks for being with us. before we get to the more serious significant issues of our day like unilaterally disarming and socializing the country and taxing us to death, we've got a picture. the president of the united states -- apparently this girl is 16 years old at the g-8 summit, him and -- there it is right there. take a look at that shot. freeze frame. we have video of it. what do you think that is? >> i think he's been coached by italy's prime minister there, i think. sean: let's look at the video. i've heard -- the funny thing is liberals -- go back. there we go, nice look, let me
9:24 pm
get out of this, and sarkozy can't help himself. >> are you going to look in the camera and say you've never snuck a peak before? sean: i'm not the president. what does that mean, snuck a peek? are you married? how would you feel? >> i'd probably do the hillary clinton thing and say he was probably looking at the dress to see if it would go with my $600 bag. >> chris cuomo played the video, clearly this shows he wasn't looking. i don't know if he was or wasn't. sean: let's slow it down. let's admit the truth. he was sneaking a peek. >> the girl's beautiful. she's stunning. sean: she's 16. come on.
9:25 pm
>> it was not good. >> better to sneak a peek than what the governor did. sean: oh, there's bill clinton. all right. we're spending all this money. i said liberals don't mind paying taxes because they don't pay taxes, we've got more tax cheats in the obama administration, and similarly obama apparently according to the story is evoking his african-american cousin who can't get a job, quote, without a bribe. we've heard about the poverty that his half-brother lives in, we've heard about the aunt in boston. barack obama is a millionaire. why can't barack obama donate money to his own family? if they give me the address of his brother i offered before he got his book deal to give him money. why are liberals only generous with other people's money? >> that remains to be seen, and basically obama wears the suit
9:26 pm
of the riddler. he could have thrown his family a bone. he could have actually made something happen, gosh knows that he has created so many other positions for other people. i mean he could have made him a czar. >> from a communications standpoint, making it personal was a smart thing for him to do, but in holding these nations accountable for the funds is a great idea, in fact it was a great idea when george w. bush announced it in 2002 holding these countries accountable making sure they're accountable for human rights and good government and no corruption, so what he was trying to do was holding them responsible for making sure the money gets to the right people. that's not a new idea, and acted like it was. >> he needed to have talked about structural adjustment programs that cram the programs down the throats of many of these african nations, but i like the idea because i too
9:27 pm
think that we've got nigeria, all this oil wealth, and i really think some of them ought to take a page from hugo chavez and use the money to benefit the people. sean: are you out of your mind? he's not helping the people of venezuela. it's his own cousin. it's his own brother living in poverty in basically a shack. and i'm asking he's all about, quote, spread the wealth, skin in the game, patriotic duty, all the comments, and i'm asking he wants to be our brother's keeping. how about it starts at home with his own money to his own family before he starts spreading the wealth with our family. they wouldn't give me the address. i offered to give the guy 10 grand, his own brother considering his brother the millionaire wouldn't give him a penny. >> he could retire for years on that. >> the question of accountability and
9:28 pm
responsibility. sean: how about -- you're not answering this. what about his accountability? >> you're really making a mountain out of a molehill. the bigger point -- >> that's your family. you've got to wonder about this man's character. this is his family. enough said. >> he could have helped out his cousin. sean: the broader point is we can expand this. liberals are very generous, with other people's money. there's a principle in play here, we get lectured how we need to help daycare and health care and baby bonds and everything else, but it's only going to be with other people's money. >> it's government dependency on the backs of the taxpayers. it's letting other people not the bill. that's what they're famous for. >> you're talking about accountability and responsibility, and we're moralizing, here you have people in this country who wrecked an entire economy out of this so
9:29 pm
far enterprise system. sean: stop it. >> you've got banks, bankers. sean: we just in a study -- >> you have people who wreck this economy. sean: government wrecked this economy. >> no, no. sean: george w. bush tried to fix fannie and freddie in the subprime mortgage cries which is forced banks to lower their standards, correct? >> correct, and it was barney frank and everybody else who were saying we don't need this. >> let's not forget about acorn who hammered the heck out of each of those agencies. >> the poor billionaires on wall street, i'm really crying crocodile tears for them. i'm shocked that you free marketeers are feeling this way. sean: i think we ought to give 9 out of 10 dollars to the government, right, ron? 9 out of 10? >> no, i think the government has a role and responsibility, and one of the things it has to do is check greedy, irresponsible people. sean: like politicians, i agree.
9:30 pm
>> no, like heads of corporations and these people who are trying to get these big bonuses. sean: we'll come back. but now that i'm breathing better with advair... i can enjoy the zoo with my grandkids. (announcer) for people with copd including chronic bronchitis, emphysema, or both, great news. advair helps significantly improve lung function. while nothing can reverse copd, advair is different from most other medications because it contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help you breathe better. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk of osteoporosis and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking advair. we had a great day, grandpa! we sure did. ask your doctor how advair helps improve lung function
9:31 pm
for better breathing. (announcer) find out how to get your first full prescription free at advaircopd.com.
9:32 pm
sean: and more with our "great american panel." all right. for the first time since barack obama's been president he's got trouble with his poll numbers. more people see the country going in the wrong direction, more people blame him for the bad economy, more people identify themselves as conservative, more people think the democrats are too liberal. do you think they're in trouble politically? >> this is an issue that they're going to have to deal with because they rely on the numbers when they're good. it doesn't mean as much. >> and to piggyback on that, he is down 50% in key states, ohio, virginia, those are swing states, and that's something to look at. >> and let's follow the stimulus
9:33 pm
money as the poll numbers move in various states around the country. >> especially if they do the second -- >> i'll take 58%. that's not bad. sean: 52%. if you look at his negative -- i have to help you out here, ron. >> i think that -- i'll even take 52 instead of 34. but beyond that, this is like the polls go up and down. people, the economy is in bad shape, he inherited a horrific economy. >> but he called for transparency and accountability, and it's not happening. >> really counting on this, and the economy is going to turn around. sean: they promised unemployment wouldn't go above 8%, it's now 9.5%, they promised they wouldn't have lobbyists, they've got lobbyists, they promised no earmarks, they've got earmarks, they promised the stimulus is actually working and they wouldn't have done anything differently. american people now putting more trust, faith, and hope in the
9:34 pm
republicans think that obama's failed, and they blame him now. this blame bush thing isn't working. >> and that's why we have a chance in 2010 and 2012 to recapture it, and even if we do nothing but just watch this play out which it will, he has a bad economic plan point blank. >> in february when they put out the reporting guidelines for how they were goes to use stimulus funds the first thing was communications material. all these results.gov, the signs you see next to the project, and the reason is they want to get credit for it, not for transparency, but for votes down the road. sean: but a piece of the puzzle we haven't discussed, we have 52 blue dog democrats now stalling the health care plan that they want, and we have a lot of democratic senators saying no to cap and tax. i think they are seeing their political futures vanish before their eyes because obama quadrupled the deficit in a year
9:35 pm
and has quadrupled the debt in a year. >> he has really inherited a huge -- this is unprecedented. sean: this is the fifth time you've answered the same way. >> at least in the democratic party there are some blue dogs, there's diversity. your problem with the republican party is you've got a little small base, and it's very unclear how you're going to expand it to win anything, period. sean: can i just counter that because john mccain was not viewed as conservative enough. >> but you didn't like him. i liked him. sean: no, i do like him, i disagree with his policies. >> you have very few people. you can't expand your base. sean: ronald reagan inherited double digit unemployment, double digit inflation, deficits out of control, a malaise factor. those numbers were far worse than anything that the anointed one barack obama barack obama inherited, and ronald reagan
9:36 pm
went to the business of cutting taxes, creating 22 million jobs, and ending the cold war. >> come on, sean, you've got no credibility on deficit. every time -- sean: he doubled revenues. >> huge deficits. >> he promoted capitalism. why do you think clinton was so successful? he reaped the benefits of reaganomics. >> he inherited a huge deficit. >> president bush inherited a recession too, and by using tax cuts, a record 52 months of job creation. >> where do we end up? every time the republicans come in with this whole notion of repeative song and dance of cut taxes for the rich, we end up with huge deficits. >> deficits? look at this deficit. >> it's going to play out, sean. i'm sorry. sean: let me tell you when we get to a balanced budget in the
9:37 pm
1990's, but it didn't happen until the republicans took ahold of the purse strings in '94. no president can spend a dollar without the approval of congress. as soon as a balanced budget was insisted on with cbo numbers which are now being ignored by this administration, we got on a plan to a balanced budget, so obviously it was the republicans that deserved the credit more than ron has given to bill clinton. >> and the same thing could happen again this time because the motivation is there, people are seeing the deficit grow. and keeping the country safe for seven years is probably the reason the deficit is there. >> these deficits were necessary in order to stimulate the economy. >> but now -- it's not working. >> there's an argument to be said that in fact we didn't -- >> stimulus is not working. >> it wasn't big enough, and that may be the problem. >> why are they considering another one? sean: she raises a good
9:38 pm
question. >> why are they considering another one? >> they didn't have enough in the first place. my criticism of barack obama is he's not bold enough. he's too cautious. >> no, he's a radical. sean: we'll end it on that accurate note. i've said he is bill ayers and reverend wright. good to see you, thank you. and coming up next former nfl star keyshawn johnson. (announcer) it is the most advanced automobile we have ever created. a car that can help awaken its driver if he begins to doze... keep him in his lane if he starts to wander... even stop itself if he becomes distracted.
9:39 pm
if you want to see the future of the automobile, just look at the new e-class... today. this is the 9th generation e-class. this is mercedes-benz. it's really hot out. and that beret is really not hot. i am all roots and no time. i gotta run. no! ooh! ah...! ah! ooh! that was impressive... did you know you can easily touch up your roots-- without a salon. ta-da!
9:40 pm
root touch up-- specially designed for roots or grays. that pop up between regular colorings. in 10 minutes... bzzz! you're flawlessly matched and completely fresh. i feel so much better. live with roots, or get a boost? root touch-up by nice 'n easy. your right color.
9:41 pm
>> keyshawn johnson was known for making outstanding plays on the football field, but now he's
9:42 pm
trying to score in the world of interior design? what? take a look. >> what do you think? she's telling me she likes this versus that, and you said you want a men's room. does this look anything like a men's room? >> don't you any the top one is too dark? don't you think it's -- >> it is a little strong. it's a strong color. that's what we're looking for, but i do like this color. i do like it. it is nice and light. so whatever you decide. >> no, no, she decides, she's going to decide that. curtis asked me for a man's room, and he's letting his wife control the paint color. he has to step up to the plate, swing for a home run, and make a decision on his paint. sean: the new series, keyshawn johnson, tackling design, airs on a and e on saturdays. how are you? i loved it when you were the jets. you abandoned us. >> it's all about money. you know that. sean: why are you making fun of
9:43 pm
my football? the "hannity" official football. >> it's not really a -- sean: you understand how many lights we've broke in this studio already. >> typical because you're not a football player. stick to politics. sean: you've had an incredible -- cotton bowl, rose bowl, mvp twice. >> i in a nice little run in sports. sean: nice, tremendous. >> nice little run. i wouldn't trade my career for anyone else's. sean: and you played for the cowboys. that really -- >> hurt you. sean: i like the cowboys, flare all right, but you were playing for the jets for a while. how do you go from football to interior design? >> i went to football to espn and now i'm taking up this third point. when i was in new york i hired a firm here in new york, and they screwed it up. i got rid of them, and i started
9:44 pm
my own, i said i can do it myself, i'll spend my own money versus allowing other people to screw it up for me, and every single year i buy a house somewhere else that i go play at or i have to -- i fix it up. sean: i was in construction for years, i did all this work, i laid tile, i did painting, wallpaper. >> i'm not doing any of that. i'm just giving the directions, and i know when things are supposed to be right and when they're not. i know you're supposed to float certain things, i get all of that, i just kind of give the directions to some of my cast members which i haven't said much about them, but the four people edward, chelsea, and sabena have been really great. and it's cool. i'm not opening a design firm. so you won't call me and say hey, i need you to redo this
9:45 pm
set. sean: what's wrong with my set? >> it's too political. sean: this is a political show. who did you vote for? >> i voted for obama. sean: why? >> now we've got to get into politics. because i felt he was the right guy for the job. initially i was a clinton supporter, everything was hillary, i had a relationship with their family then. sean: so you first were with hillary. don't you think we're spending -- because -- >> i'm not following all that. sean: don't you think we're spending too much money. does anything that he's doing concern you, accumulating -- he quadrupled the deficit in a year. if you go four times over the budget, what does that mean? >> i'm trying to get it right. sometimes you have to spend to get things right. sean: and you overspend, and you
9:46 pm
go bankrupt. >> we're not getting into the politics because we'll be here for two days. sean: it doesn't matter to me who you voted for, but i think, for example, i like -- i have opinions about sports, i have opinions about god and religion, i have opinions about politics, and we can disagree. >> and you can have opinions about my design show. sean: i was in this business. >> for me it's not just about the interior design, it's not about the fabrics, it's about wanting to launch something different in my career. i want to get into the licensing, i want to get into the furniture lines, the paints. sean: do you care about -- for example, the worst hour of my day is sticking this thing up on my neck. i hate it. i absolutely -- do you like my tie? you don't like that either. you had a yellow shirt on in the show. >> that was a laker warm-up jacket. what's this? >> it's like blue and gold. it's ok. i personally would have to do something to it, but that's my
9:47 pm
taste. i would have a hanky in there. sean: where? >> yeah, it looks plain, it looks political. sean: i wear jeans and tennis sneakers on the set. because you're not standing up. i purposely said i don't want to do standup so i don't have to put suit pants on. >> see, you're running your own show. when you're the boss, you can say that. sean: i will tell you this. i don't think i really have a good fashion sense, but i did know when i was doing work as a contractor, i knew what looked good. and the other thing is the years that i worked in contracting and laid floors and hung wallpaper and painted and built walls and did renovations was some of the most rewarding work you ever did because you start your day and at the end of the day you look back and say wow, i accomplished this. very rewarding. >> and that's exactly with me. i'm a guy that has a vision, and when i walk into homeowners as you could see on that clip, they're telling me exactly what
9:48 pm
it is that they're looking for, and then i try to bring that -- sean: should the guys roll over and let the wife choose? >> absolutely not. sean: they should strand strong? >> yeah, because it's going to look like a powder puff room otherwise. sean: you're saying don't let your wife design the house, step up, stand up to her. >> certain rooms you guys should work together on, things you feel are important to you, you should probably take control. take control. take control. sean: take control. tv's. >> take control. because they would rather have -- you probably should split that. if you can cook. if you can't cook -- sean: what about the warning machine and drier? >> that's for the housekeeper. sean: not everybody has a housekeeper, keyshawn. you're going to vote republican in the next election? >> are we finished with the show? sean: all right. good to see you. thank you for being here. coming up our conspiracy series
9:49 pm
is back. is there a werewolf on the loose in wisconsin? residents say it's been lurking for years. we took our cameras there. that story and much more coming up straight ahead. . could buy 300 bottles of water. or just one brita filter. ( drop plinks ) brita-- better for the environment and your wallet. a day on the days that you have arthritis pain, you could end up taking 4 times the number... of pills compared to aleve. choose aleve and you could start taking fewer pills. just 2 aleve have the strength... to relieve arthritis pain all day.
9:50 pm
9:51 pm
9:52 pm
sean: are there really half man, half wolf?
9:53 pm
some say that a werewolf has been in the woods for many years. years. one takes us to a small town. it takes us to a country road lined with family farms and surrounding woods. in this quintessential american landscape, the residence there call this the beast of bray road. for over 20 years, the locals have been telling stories about
9:54 pm
creatures lurking in the woods. no one knows more about this mysterious creature than linda got free. she is the author of "the beast of bray road." >> back in 1991-'92, i was a reporter for the newspaper. people around this small city were beginning to report to our county animal control office that they were seeing a creature that they could best described as a werewolf. when i talked to these people, they seem like ordinary and honest citizens. they range from junior high students to farmers and elderly people. it has remained that way to this day. >> in her 17 years of hunting down a mysterious piece, she has collected over 400 accounts of sightings. everyone estimates and a fight
9:55 pm
between 7-10 feet tall. covered with very shaggy fur. a long sharp muzzle with fangs and prominent teeth. doing things that an ordinary creature would not do, it uses its paws to hold chunks of raw meat. it also uses its hind legs to walk. greta: this is one of the few people to have had an encounter. >> it was approximately 1:00 in the morning, i was contracted to pick up a gear on the road. i was on a road and i pulled over and i looked and i put the deer in the back of a truck. i went back into the cab. there were no other cars in sight, i started to do the paperwork and i heard the truck shake. i thought it was the wind and shook a second time.
9:56 pm
when i looked in the rearview mirror, i saw a large creature that was reaching into the back of the truck. it looked like it had the body of a bear but it had a wolf's head with a large muscluzzle. it did not hit me right off the bat what i was seeing. the minute i got a clear look at it after a couple of seconds, all i knew is that it was not something i have ever seen before. i have seen every type of animal there was inside of the state of wisconsin. sean: tales of humans shifting into animals dates back to american indian folklore. >> there is a close connection between the native american the lord and the man wolf sightings. many people don't know that wisconsin has most of the animal shape to ancient effigy mounds in the world.
9:57 pm
the ones that are shaped with a long tail that are actually called water spirits by the may americans, i found that a map of those localities overlaps exactly with hot spots of man wolf sightings. sean: this girl also witnessed the mammals. >> it was july in 2004. we were out in a field having a good time, messing around. we heard some noises off in the field, a couple of hundred yards away. we did not think much of it. a little while later, we kept hearing the noises and it became louder and trees breaking and things like that. we tried to ignore it but we soon found out that it was a bad idea. we saw a creature 7-8 feet tall and was coming towards us it
9:58 pm
stood like a human and acted like a human but it looks like a dog or a wolf. we were completely surprised, we had no idea what was going on. we ran back to our car as fast as we could. >> on old bray road is the first sightings. sean: sightings have also been recorded in michigan. some say the most compelling piece of evidence of the existence of the michigan dogman turned out about five years ago. this video apparently shows what some say is the dogman. the origin of this tape is a mystery. it has never been proven real or
9:59 pm
a hoax. the stories of where wolveerewo continue. >> i was scared out of my mind. >> i don't know if there's a way to convince someone what i saw. >> i don't know if it is a natural creature, a supranatural creature, where a strange phenomenon that we cannot comprehend. what keeps me going after it is why it our all of these hundreds of people seeing something that looks like a werewolf? i don't know what it is but i hope to get an answer to that. >sean: stories of the werewolf can be found as early as recorded history. i guess the legend will continue. continue.

225 Views

1 Favorite

info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on