the fox news alert. we're getting this video out of iraq showing iranians building barricades by lighting fires in dumpsters. ed video posted on you tube. journalists were expelled shortly after the presidential election. it's been very difficult to get any information there. imaging of the ongoing protests continue to be leaked on sites like twitter. ahmadinejab threatened to crush all uprisings against the government. protests have been going on for the week following the presidential election, which many believe to be fraudulent. president obama recently warned iran that the world would not wait indefinitely to end its nuclear defiance and -- defiance and set is a deadline for them

to comply or face consequences, hello, everyone. # i'm jamie. >> welcome to a brand-new couple of hours. we'll continue to keep our eye on the situation in iran. let's turn to small businesses which could soon be the next recipient of a government bailout. the white house consider ago plan to help boost the number of government backed loans to struggling small businesses. the basic idea is to redirect a leftover portion from the $700 billion in bank bailout funds. tracy byrnes is here to fill us in. is there a formal plan you could tell us about? >> no, not yet. $127 billion that they have that they're thinking about allocating to small businesses. no, there is no plan. they don't know who will get it, who would qualify. is it based on losses? is it based on numbers of employees that will be lost? at this point, totally up in the air. lot of political positive touring going on.

>> so much attention focused on bank, jpmorgan chase, the car companies, but it's small businesses that really employee the vast majority of american workers. how important is it for the government to step in and help those small business owners? >> you're right. 80% of our jobs came from these small businesses and they will -- that will be the way we get out of this recession. our entrepreneurs, our small businesses. they get out there and start hiring again. help them. this is not really the way to do it because keep in mind, once you get money with uncle sam, you're locked in. >> what has uncle sam done up to this point? we've heard so much about bailout for various sectors of industries in our country. what about small businesses? the white house done anything to help them yet? >> they have. they doubled the small business administration budget and with that, they set $6 billion of loans have been put out n. march, they also authorized

$15 billion to help the banks that offer loans to small businesses. the problem is this money is not getting out there. this is a problem across the board with the administration. the money is there, it's not getting out to the people. they need to get that money out first before they start allocating more. >> if small businesses takes some of this money, i guess it still counts as tarp money, are there strings attached? are there rules they would have to follow? >> right. that's all part of it. that's part of the unknown. this money supposedly is going to go to their lines of credit to allow them more lines of credit, many small businesses have seen their lines of credit cut off. you know what happens with the big banks when they took money from uncle sam. executive compensation was limited, they had to give up pieces of their business. that's not what entrepreneurs want to do. they would sell the furniture in their home before they took a penny from uncle sam. help to help them? cut the payroll tax, cut taxes

across the board. that will put money in a small businessman's pocket, allow him to hire people and keep him away from getting handouts from the government. >> tracy byrnes with the "fox business" network, thanks very much. >> thanks. >> at this hour, president obama is returning to washington. he's wrapped up in overseas trip that included the go-8 in summit in litly -- italy and the pope and ended in ghana. major garrett is live and remained behind to be with us. great to see you. i hope they didn't leave you behind. we'll get you back, don't worry. it was an historic trip -- this was a very historic trip, but very busy day. the president made a very important speech. tell us what was very significant to us and also to the people who were there. >> the president said things

that a u.s. president has never before said in addressing the entire continent of africa. first of all, get over your colonial grievances. you have corrupt governments that you must reform and if you don't, the west and other parties will not invest in africa's future. third, stop fighting among tribes or regions. it's a tough speech. it's what previous presidents would have preferred to give because it would have been much more aligned with the facts as they currently exist in africa. but they were unable to probably because they thought it might be viewed as offensive or patronizing. this president talking about his own roots here. african-american president to visit believes he has more credibility, more legitimacy if you will, to give this sort of tough love, quote unquote, within the family and that's exactly what he did. >> what's the lasting impact of the trip, do you believe?

>> well, that's going to be measured over time. the president's top advisors told us, this speech is designed to be a marker for the entire continent. those nations like here in ghana ha thank have a stable democracy and beginning to reform their economic institutions, it lifts them up. those having trouble or not trying to do that, it's a marker from the u.s. under this president, we're not going to deal with you until you change your ways. this speech is designed to tell the entire continent where this administration is coming from and if you intend to try to get business or do business with this president and this administration, you better fall in line or at least begin to change your ways or not much is going to happen positively for you. >> major, great roundup for us of everything that happened. thank you so much. safe travel. >> of course. >> from africa to iowa now, strong thunderstorms knocking out the power for thousands of residents and leaving a trail of

destruction. heavy winds, hail, pounding rain, all hitting cedar falls and water lieu. it made quick work of this house. the wind strong enough to flip over a trailer on the highway. now more from the weather center. what's going on? >> the majority of the storms have moved to the east and in the ohio valley up to the north that we're looking at scattered showers. they have tornado warnings. strong winds and rotation being detected from southern parts of ohio. these storms will be fizzling out over the next couple hours and good news for the northeast because the thunderstorm watch box is shrinking as the storms weaken. the storms go all the way down to florida and that's where we've been seeing a problem for the space shuttle launch and from jacksonville all the way down to miami, scattered showers and thunderstorms. now this chance tomorrow will start to lessen. today we're looking at a 60%

chance of scattered showers and thunderstorms. tomorrow 30% chance. but we could see the worst part of the day as far as any chance for storms pop up toward the evening hours. we'll have to keep our eye on that. otherwise very hot temperatures down to the south. we will tell you more about that and what you can expect for the rest of the weekends coming up in the next hour. >> thanks very much. one of the most complexing issues facing capitol hill is health care reform. two figures have emerged, leading the charge for a bipartisan compromise plan. montana senator is a democrat and iowa senator, a republican. the two lawmakers are in a series of meetings that are trying to develop a health care reform plan that they believe will please everyone. senator grassily is joining me on the phone. good to have you with us.

>> thank you very much. glad to be here. >> i'm curious how optimistic you are at this attempted bipartisanship on an issue so important to every american. >> i'm very optimistic from this standpoint. senator and i either i as chairman or six years or he's been chairman the last four years, almost every bill that's come out of committee has been a bipartisan bill. we've been negotiating on this issue for weeks. we're still at the table. we run into some stumbleing blocks from time to time, but we seem to get over them and i'm optimistic n every day we learn about a new way we might be taxed or charged in order to make this plan possible. do you think that you can come up with something together that we can actually afford? >> i believe that if you look ahead a few years and when we

change the standings in health care that tend to run up the cost of health care, the answer is yes. if you're looking at the very near term, to be perfectly candid, there is some up front cost. but over the long-term, we figure that we will bend the inflation curve of health care tremendously. >> there are organizations that have actually -- they're running ats against you getting together, the two of you both sides of the aisle trying to come to this solution and some republicans have said that what you're trig to do is actually standing in the way. how do you feel about that? >> well, nothing gets done in the united states senate that's not bipartisan, so i think it's naive to think that anything is going to get through just democrat and republicans are in the minority, so we're not going to get through. when it comes to ads that are being run and people want to be very political, my rule of thumb

is the best policy is the best politics where a lot of people think that the best politics is the best policy. but i believe that with all my years in the senate, that i think that when you work together in a bipartisan way to get something done, you have the best policy. >> when you look at the balance of power right now, some republicans have told me and some democrats have denied it to be the case, but the republicans feel they won't be able to meet the needs of their constituents because their positions won't be heard. they're outnumbered, frankly. do you feel that way? >> i don't feel that way as long as i have a working relationship with the head of the committee, the same way that i have a working relationship when the republicans were in the majority. and i think republicans, going back to your previous question about republicans not wanting me

to negotiate, i would think that they would feel good about having a conservative at the table. one of the things that republicans don't like and a lot of people in this country don't like is they don't want the government to take over health care. one of the things that i'm fighting against is this government-run insurance plan that the democrats want to cram down our throats, that is the first step towards canadian style single payer system where they're rationing health care y. want that in america. senator balkus doesn't want that to help. >> interesting to learn both sides of the aisle in an effort to not nationalize our health care. senator, great to talk to you today and i hope you come back and keep us posted on your weekly meetings. i heard something about you guys get together and i hope you can work it out for us. >> we'll sure try. any time you want me back, i'll come back. >> thank you so much, sir. >> switching gears now, a disturbing incident caught on

tape, new jersey man shot and lying in the street. no one steps up to help. now police are asking the public to try to help them find the person who pulled the trigger. meghan vega of new york has the story. >> on june 19, 43-year-old victor drove his van. he decided not to use his last name to protect him. he was approached by two individuals who police believe was an attempted robbery. >> one man opened up with a shotgun and hit him the distance of two feet. >> reporter: today jersey city police admit they have exhausted all resource when is it comes to closing the case. they are releasing surveillance video of the shooting. >> we think it's a perfect case because of all the clues and all the things that we think the public will be able to identify and help us. >> in the video you can see him

drive to the shop in his van. the two suspects were waiting and what they believe is a red or burgundy 2005-2007 ford focus, similar to this one. the license plate could be from new york, new jersey or pennsylvania. why victor was targeted is under investigation. the suspects approached the van and victor. there is a struggle, then the van goes forward. he had been shot with a shotgun. as the suspects flee, victor makes his way to the middle of the street, amazingly drivers pass him by. three minutes after the shooting 911 is called. victor's employer, along with the prosecutor, are offer ago $5,000 reward for information that closes his friend's case. >> he was our best employee. he's been with us over five years. he worked hard to try to make the best living for his children. >> that was reporter meghan vega from wwor in new york. jersey city police set up a tip line. if you have information, give them a call.

toxicology tests are being conducted on the five victims killed when their car was hit by train outside detroit. they are paying particular attention to the driver. 19-year-old man. police say he drove around the downed railroad gate while it was down and then lights were flashing at the same time. the five victims, all between the ages of 14 and 21. a fun to her now. a popular festival. leaving behind nasty rashes. hundreds of folks hospitalized for skin diseases they contracted in the event's leading up to south korea's mud festival. i thought this was a fun story. doesn't sound like fun to me. some 200 out of 1500 festival goers contracted some skin inflammation. they turned colors. mud festival becoming an international event with visitors coming from all over the world. tourists and locals taking part

in almost anything imaginable you can do with mud. looks quite fun. i'll skip the rash. >> there is a storm brewing on capitol hill over a country c.i.a. secret project. congressional leaders demand to know more about it, some want a full investigation. will unveiling the classified program pose a risk to our national security?

welcome back. taking a look at today's top stories. the fate of michael jackson's three children, it might be decided in two, not one,

upcoming custody hearings. one will involve their grandmother, katherine jackson, set for july 20. and a conference call with mom, debbie roe planned for the 17th. >> the first family wrapping up their overseas trip today with a visit to a seaside fortress in ghana that was once used as slaves dungens in the 17th century. saying it proves cruelly and oppression can be overcome. >> in mississippi, 4500 people paid their last respects to steve mcnair. he was murdered by his girlfriend who then killed herself. fire storm flairing up on the hill this week. democrats on house intelligent committee claiming the craig director told them that the agency concealed a secret program from congress for years. the disclosure, prompting calls for investigation of the classified program, and angry

exchanges. >> i felt what i came to the intelligence committee that the leaders of the intelligence community, not all, but several of them, actually were annoyance. >> guess what? sylvester reyes in the intelligence committee held zero, that's right, zero hearings on the speaker's allegations or on any of these more recent allegations. so should congress have a full blown investigation? let's talk with a couple of guests, republican congressman from utah. and julie a democratic strategist and former majority counsel for the house judiciary committee. thanks for being here. congressman, let me start with you. this secret program we keep hearing about, i would love to know what it is. do you know? >> right now it's all speculation. we don't have the details of it. my understanding, limited details we do have, this is a program where there is a lot of brainstorming, all the speculative ideas about what they night do and didn't

necessarily rides to the level where they need to do necessarily inform the congress. but i think the intelligence committee obviously is focused on this and they'll pursue that and that's the right course of action. >> do you have any idea what kind of program we're talking about? program that was so secret that even the director panetta didn't know about it until after he had already taken the position? >> the rumor is that was a secret plan to assassinate foreign leaders. it's only a rumor. if it's true, that could have been a violation of the law and the failure to disclose it to the appropriate congressional committees would also be a violation of at least two laws. i think nobody could argue against the need for an investigation, even if it's deemed portions are classified. that's in the public interest. i would say this to the democrats, i think it is important for the democrats to have a complete and full investigation, but not politicize this. the public spoke last november and clearly said that they did

not like how the republicans and president bush conducted the intelligence activities or how they were managing the economy. it doesn't help for the democrats right now -- what the public wants is the democrats to fix health care, to fix the economy, fix the energy problem, conduct an intelligence war in afghanistan. it doesn't help to appear as if we are engage not guilty a backward looking partisan campaign. -- >> i think that's exactly the way that it appears to a lot of americans. exactly what julian is saying, right, congressman? >> i think the problem is that democrats are in the bowl of a huge dust up. since the speaker threw out these outridge rageious allegation, there hasn't been one hearing within the intelligence committee to actually go after this since may. they should be diving deep into these issues. you have seven members of the intelligence committee not on letterhead sending a letter

wanting pi net at that, a democrat, to change his testimony and pretty much saying he might have lied to congress. and you have this coming up. it's a democrat food fight that i hope gets sorted out because this should not be partisan. this is something that is of public importance. >> democratic food fight, i think it's important not to make this partisan. the questions and actions are the questions like torture and other activities by the intelligence community under the bush administration. i think there is a common view in the american public that these intelligence activities under the bush administration were mishandled. the point that i was making that it is important now not to engage in a partisan food fight to find one more thing that the bush administration did wrong. i think we agree a lot of things were done wrong. important thing is for the members to join with democrats and to say let's start fixing problems. let's make sure all of the things that screw --

>> very dedicated men and women who work for the c.i.a. are in the middle of all this. it doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of concern being paid to them as they try to keep our country safe. >> well, a lot of democrats inpawning the integrity of the craig and really what they need to do is have a hearing within the intelligence committee. there is good quality people in there. they care deeply and it's not happening. >> jason -- >> with all due respect, i'm saying that i think democrats and republicans should join together in a bipartisan effort to fix all of the things that went wrong in the previous administration. the congressman keeps making partisan remarks. i don't think any democrats are going up to the c.i.a. officers.

>> julian, thanks very much. congressman chapin of the great state of utah. thank you for coming on. thanks for having us. >> i think we hit on something. >> think so? >> good discussion. programming note for you. judge sonia sotomayor will be in the hot seat on monday. our confirmation hearings get underway. before they do, an in-depth look at her confirmation and a story, we'll that have at 8:00 p.m. eastern on sunday night. don't miss it. complete coverage right here on fox news channel on monday. >> meanwhile, still the weekend and summer time is certainly in full swing. there they go. you can leave your fishing license at home. are you hungry? you you will not believe the latest craze in oklahoma, called noodling. all you need are your bare hands to get your next seafood feast. we'll show you how it's done right there in oklahoma next.

bottom of the hour, can you believe it already? flying by. time for the latest news. the first family are on their way back to america. they wrapped up an oversea trips that went to ghana.

>> also, a space shuttle endeavor, electrical storm grounding the flight. they'll try again tomorrow night. nasa needs to make sure there is no lightning damage. >> lance armstrong is in third place in the tour defrance. eight seconds off the lead. >> it is never a good idea to tell the whole world i'm out of town on vacation. my house is empty. in today's tech savvy world, people are doing just that, texting details of their get away and making their homes prime targets for thieves. no surprise. cops are notice ago surging in break-ins tied to the new technology. now more from l.a it kind of makes sense. this don't this stuff with people. >> yeah. it really does. it's also very frightening when you boil it right down. when you talk about this internet crime phenomenon, it is so new that a lot of police departments don't even track the

data. they don't know what specific crimes are possibly attributed to this. but experts do tell us that more and more victims are popping up all around the country as the popularity of the social networking sites increases. we're talking about facebook, twitter, myspace, you name it. they allow user to share information back and forth, will go status updates on what you're doing, and where you are. it is a great way for friends and family to follow what you're up to, but police say criminals are following it, too. cops near phoenix, arizona, believe a man's house was robbed because they sent out atwitterrer message this they were out on vacation. when they returned, their home was ransacked and thousands of dollars worth of computer equipment stolen. >> you wouldn't stand in the middle of times square and tell everyone you're going to be away for two weeks. don't tweet about it for anyone

who wants to see it that you wouldn't shout about on times square. >> certainly good advice there. while some police departments are investigating more and more crimes on the internet, others are using the information super highway to prevent them. the hawthorne, california police department near l.a. use ago twitter page to get important information out to the community, like suspect descriptions and road closures and emergency information and this new form of crime prevention is catching on. dozens of police departments from new jersey to milwaukee are using the social networking sites now to get varied information out to the public. the very people they protect. rick? >> casey in los angeles, thanks very much. >> unexpectant parents getting 3d images of babies are becoming more important than ever. giving mom and dad a realistic picture of the baby in the womb. check this out.

many parents are going to boutique ultrasound locations, not a doctor's office, to get these pictures and that has come under fire. in connecticut, for example, they've become the first state to ban these scans unless you have an okay from your doctor. >> before he deploys with the navy, he and his wife are getting to know their baby. with an elective keepsake ultrasound. >> i told you it was a boy. >> i'm not going to be able to be there. >> the scan, done in an ultrasound boutique, let's parents see their baby in 3d. >> i feel more like the baby is real. >> this month, connecticut became the first state to ban nonmedically approved scans. >> concern for the health of the fetus was larger concern. >> the food and drug administration discourages

so-called entertainment tradition sounds, but says there is no proof they're dangerous. some insist without long-term studies, we don't know. >> because doctors offices and hospitals with ultrasounds are regulated, you can expect every ultrasound machine to have a certificate showing that it meets industry standards. if you go to a entertainment location, you might not know the qualifications of the person doing the test. or who you'll talk to if a problem is detected on screen. you might not even know where the equipment came from. >> it's unregulated environment. the scan may get performed isn't calibrated the way our equipment is. >> he insists the equipment is safe. she says extra scan gives parents the chance to bond early with their children and in some case, a few moments they get are precious. >> they have moms and dads come in here with babies that aren't expected to be born alive. this was their one opportunity to see their child moving and kicking.

>> they say it's a parents' choice and not the state's and they would have done whatever they had to to share this experience. >> she says her equipment gets regular maintenance and she told me there was another expectant mom that had come in to get pictures of her baby because she wanted to show them to her mom who had been diagnosed with terminal cancer and was not expected to survive her baby's birth. the state ban will hurt the business, but her clients have been required to get permission from the doctor before she would perform the scan. >> interesting story. all right. should some of the money meant for the bank bailout go to small businesses instead? laura ingle is live. what have you learned? >> we've been talking to people all day long about this very issue and it is really stirred up a huge debate on the street with the very idea. it's only an idea at this point. the tarp funds would be sent over to sba, that would help

some of the smaller businesses across america. we're talking to people about it. this is one of them from connecticut. what do you think about the idea of tarp funds, some of them, being moved over to sba? >> i think it's a great idea. if you think about what they were for, they were to put cash flow back into the economy. it's not working like people hoped. if you can get the banks out of the way, you'll give money to the people who will put it to use. >> you yourself do not own a small business, but you know many who do in connecticut. what is the feeling of small businesses where you're from? >> i think they're scared because you have small businesses, ten, 15 employee, they're laying off people, too. that's their livelihood. if they can't get access to credit to keep going, they're struggling a lot. >> what do you think will happen? do you think the obama administration will put a proposal together and get this going? >> i think if they were smart, they would keep thinking about what they're doing and execute on it. >> thank you so much. and again, we spoke with the sba today who told us this is just

not even a proposal. just an idea being kicked around. we'll bring you the latest when we get it. back to you. >> i like what you've done with the place. >> thank you. >> speaking about what they've done, something fishy going on in oklahoma. take a look. pictures really tell this story. it's called noodling or hand fishing. requires no rod, reel or worm. you simply stick your arms into the water and you see what comes up. have we got you yet? chris joining us live from the super bowl of noodling. quite a catch behind you, chris. >> you're exactly right. you can see that they're noodling live. these demonstrations. he's reel not guilty -- reeling in a 45-pounder. it takes a lot of power to bring

that in. this is lee, friends with mark and noodling since you were little. a lot of people do it. >> why? because you're in mother nature's environment. it's just you against mother nature with just your bare hands. what else can you expect? it's fun. it don't get much better. >> let's talk about the danger because 69 people across the country died last year. you've got probably a few battle wounds of your own. these are scrapes and bruises and bleeding is typical for this type of sport. talk about what you've seen, coming from worst case scenario. >> worst case is guys who go by themselves. you always want more numbers. i recommend always go with somebody that's got experience and go with numbers. >> let's move over here. what's this? you got a 60-pounder? >> there is a 60-pounder in there and there is a 24 and 38. >> that's what this is all

about. when you catch fish like that when your bare hands. >> let's talk about where you're going later this summer, you're going to spain. allegedly there are whale catfish about 500 pounds. 500 pounds. lee says you're not going to go near one that big. >> we're looking for 100 to 200-pound fish. going over for national geographic. we're looking to set a world record over there. >> can you imagine, 100-pound fish? >> no way. i can't imagine. >> people are excited. back to you in new york. >> i'm wondering if the ladies are doing it. check it out. we'll get back to you later. >> you bet. >> i'd like to try that. remember that crazy love triangle that police say drove a former astronaut on a 900-mile drive to side line her competition? quite a story. there appears to be one happy ending. former air force officer,

colleen shipman, plans to get hitch to do ex astronaut. they plan to settle down in alaska. there was a spark to confront shipman in a airport parking lot. remember this story? >> who would forget? that poor woman, that picture will live on forever. >> there were all sorts of strange things when they found her. the diaper that she allegedly wore so she could drive straight through without having to stop to go to the ladies room and found a knife and rubber gloves in her car. >> serious charges. but at least the happy couple, they worked it out. >> the battle is on for a seat on the highest court in the land and as we gear up for the confirm hearings for judge sonia sotomayor, you want to keep it here for complete coverage. the

judge will face her harshest critics. we'll look at what she is facing on capitol hill. keep it here on fox.

on monday, hearings start for sonya sotomayor. they face questions from the 19 senators on the judiciary committee. experts already predicting political fireworks and will dig deep into controversial rulings and her achievements and her activities on the bench and off. joining me to discuss what she'll be facing, legal analyst and former judge and former prosecutor and law professor. great to see both of you. i don't think i could have

paired better. first of all, because you did serve time on the bench, i was a clerk to a head judge. so the question is, when you're on that bench, there are rules and so is there a problem with the fact that i heard it raised, that she was a member of the puerto rican legal defense and education fund before she went on the bench or any organizations that is an advocacy group for ethnicity. >> great point. because that's really what the issue here is. because is there any bias? this is the highest court of the land. this is the court that can change the law. so it is so critical that whoever sits and it's a lifetime appointment, doesn't bring those biases there. so we have the puerto rican legal defense fund. she sat on it for 12 years. we know they had cases involving puerto rican terrorists and there are cases involving discrimination cases. we know so much about that fund and even though a lot of her supporters say, but she wasn't, sotomayor was not advocating for

these case, she sat on the board and she allowed that board, she knew what the board was doing. she saw the puerto rican terrorist case go forward. she knows and continues to sit there. that's extraordinarily problematic. >> i will tell you that i interviewed the president of that organization who was president at the time she was on the board who said she never handled any of those cases. we've all done probono work. she didn't do that or select the cases. >> the argument will be raised. let me ask you the question, what is the difference between that and the fact that thurgood marshall was so well-known for having been a director of the naacp and certainly pursued cases against discrimination, both on and off the bench. >> that's why i think this is not a legitimate criticism of sotomayor. there may be other criticisms of her that -- but the fact that she was with an ethnic organization really doesn't hold any water.

i would just -- for instance, she's talking about the fact that they defended puerto rican terrorists. i can tell you, our guest is a member of a group that defended terrorists from guantanamo bay. that's the american bar association. so i don't think that membership in a group that advocates certain things necessarily should be used to impugned a nominee. >> let me point out to our viewers that there is an asian american bar association, there is a black lawyers association, there are many of these organizations. the question is, when you are on the bench, mercedes, do you follow the law? do you look at the facts? do you look at the facts more deeply? i think the difference between this confirmation and the other two, the first one a breeze, the second one controversial and extended. there are 3,000 cases on appeal that they can look at with her participating in decisions and

the question is, she's known as tough. she asks questions, she looks at witness testimony. demeanor cannot be evaluated from transcripts. did she overstep her bounds in those cases? >> one of them -- i'm sorry. one of them in particular with the supreme court overturned her decision. it was such a cornerstone of the challenges she face when is she goes to these confirmation hearings. why? because she allows the municipality to come forward and say we're going to nullify this examination because even though these caucasians did pass it and they are entitled to a promotional opportunity, they're going to nullify it because we're afraid we're going to face discrimination suits in the future, because there wasn't sufficient minority representation. >> i have to cut you off and paul, i'm sorry. more time for you next time. thank you so much for weighing

in. interesting that it was justice kennedy on that decision, the one that she was believed potentially to be able to sway if she is on the court. the swing voter. thanks so much to both of you. >> thank you. >> coming up, police now hunting three suspected murderers in florida and these were their victims, the adopted parents of 16 children. we'll tell you about a news conference that's just moments away. police might have for us when we come back.

fox news alert now. we are just getting a brand-new surveillance video that may help police find three men who are suspected of killing the parents of 16 children. here you can see a red, late 70s or early '80s model van. police believe the man who

killed byrd and melanie billings of florida used this vehicle to approach the home. the alleged killers then shot the couple to death not far from where their children were sleeping. the children were not injured. joining us on the phone with the very latest on the investigation, dave mcbride. a fox news radio affiliate. dave, i know we're waiting to hear from the police in a little bit. any idea what they'll say? >> they spoke with the sheriff davis. he's a new sheriff. this is his first high profile case since he was elected last fall. he says right now he has a lot of angry deputies who will do anything and lose any kind of sleep to find out who did this. davis morgan, i know him personally and he's not the kind of person to go before the tv cameras unless he has something to say. it's not that kind of guy. he prefer the press not know, frankly, about what

investigators are doing. that frustrates me from time to time. but when he says he wants to hold a press conference, i think he's got something to talk about. >> they've announced, as we look at the family, these are people who adopted many young children over the years, a lot of whom were developmentally disabled, downs syndrome children. i know there is a lot of speculation about this. what are people saying? was this some kind of a robbery gone bad? there wasn't a forced break-in into the house. correct? >> yeah. there was forced break-in into the house, but people are -- the his have not said anything outright, but anybody who is rational thinking and tries to come up with a theory. some are wondering, hey, this red van that came up to their home and sped away, it's almost the kind of van you would use to

take children. could it have belonged to one of the children who -- just one of many theories. these are on the internet. not police theories because the police are playing it close to the vest. but you got to understand, the florida panhandle isn't like the rest of florida. this is the deep south. this is a place that's devoutly christian and devoutly conservative and devoutly pro-military because we're a navy town and people sit out on assaultry summer nights and so do their neighbors. >> we'll hopefully learn new information in a little bit. dave mcbride at 1620 news radio in pensacola. if any news breaks during this press conference, we will bring it to you live. dave, thanks very much. we appreciate the update. >> another story, routine traffic stop that ended in death, is the officer to blame? why his superiors say he's in the clear.