and that is it for tonight. as always, thank you for being with ahs. greta van susteren is standing by to go on the record. -- thank you for being with us. greta: tonight, governor palin hammer is president obama using a pen as opposed to a microphone -- governor palin hammer is -- çhammers president obama. and what about rush limbaugh in a skirt? and then, president obama drops two economic bombshells, and the news is not good. this may make you ask where all of the stimulus money and bailout money is really going. plus, former secretary of state henry kissinger goes on the record about what is going on on time going out? also, sarah palin is not just making headlines. she is writing them.

she wrote an op-ed piece in today's "the washington post," calling an obama plan an enormous threat to our economy. so why is governor palin writing does op-ed now? from arkansas, mike huckabee joins us -- so what is governor palin writing this op-ed now? -- why is she? do you feel shackled in terms of what you can say and do? is this striking out in writing this op-ed? >> i think it is an act of liberation, but i will tell you that i probably would have been better if i had been shackled more when i was governor, because i did not feel concerned to hold things to myself. the op-ed's she wrote for "the washington post" deals with things i think we should be dealing about -- the op-ed she wrote. most particularly, coal.

we have got billions of tons of recoverable coal, enough to cover this country for over 200 years, and what we want to continue to be dependent on the saudis is something that is completely beyond me -- and what we want to do that is beyond me. -- what we want to -- why we want to is beyond me. greta: she is still technically governor, but she has given notice. >> she certainly could have spoken out on this issue at any time. she also spoke out on anwr. and more is another great example -- anwr is another great example of where to get millions of barrels of oil that we can recover if that would be a much better source for america rather than continue to depend upon the middle east and other countries that do not like us. why would we hold ourselves

hostage to countries in venezuela and iran and russia? it does not make any sense whatsoever. if we have enough energy and we go after it offshore, our own recoverable sources of energy, and building nuclear plants that we are 30 years behind in building, while the french get about 85% or 95% of their energy from nuclear right now. greta: what is the impact of her writing and op-ed right now? who isç listening? and will it make any appreciable difference? >> well, fort "the washington post," i am not sure. i am not sure that is sarah palin's regular crasser -- 4 "the washington post -- for "the washington post." greta: you are an ex governor. she is soon to be in ex- governor. it is peculiar out the spotlight has been on this woman -- she is

soon to be an exç governor. >> if she tried to get away from the spotlight are simply stay in the spotlight but in a different capacity? and it would appear from the fact that she is doing things might be op-ed that she is not interested in exiting the stage and leaving the spotlight -- doing things like the op-ed. not a sitting governor of alaska. greta: there is a big difference between liking the spotlight and using it. my mother used to say that you play the hand that is dealt you. a lot of people do not like to be in the spotlight, but if you are, they use it. is she using it, or do you think she likes >> there are certain aspects of it that nobody likes -- or do you think she likes it? >> there are certain aspects of it that nobody likes. you have to disclose every bit

of income, tax returns, all associations, affiliations, anything you are a member of, and it gets pretty intense, and i think one of the things sarah palin will enjoy is that she will be able to make an extraordinary amount of money, and she will not have to tell anybody how much she made. i know she is going to ensure that part of it, probably both the making of it and not having to tell how much it was. greta: which do you like better? being governor or being axed governor? >> i tell you, greta, it was the best job i ever had -- the governor or being -- being governor or being ex-governor. you know, it makes you feel good, and there are so many things you can do, from road- building to job development. it is a job where you can actually get things done a and not just spin your wheels like

they do in washington -- get things done and not just spin your wheels. greta: tell me if i am wrong. mixed feelings. on the one hand, i would like to see a fellow governor of my party out thereç swinging and succeeding, pushing issues. and the other hand, i might have political aspirations myself, and i would not want anybody in my way. do you feel that way? she may be your challenger in a couple of years. >> well, she may be a person i get behind. here it might be more fun to support somebody rather than be that person. it is a demanding schedule to run for president, and the risks are high. i love what i am doing. i have no idea about my future i hope sarah palin does extremely well, because i think she is an extremely important voice for our party -- i have no idea about my future. çi the sarah palin does extremy

well. she rallies people -- i hope sarah palin does extremely well. there was about as much excitement as you would see at a baathist dance, which means there was not any, until she showed up for the ticket, and then there was fire going forth, so she has a role to play. whether she runs or not, she has an important voice, and let me be clear, i hope she remains part of the republican party. i am a little concerned to hear that she's a branch out or go independent. that will be in the state -- to hear that she may branch out or go independent. greta: i am sure she would say the same thing about you, that she would stand behind you. >> always a pleasure. greta: thank you, sir. do not forget to watch "huckabee" right here on fnc. is governor palin rush limbaugh in a skirt? the radio powerhouse talked

about it today. >> the state-run media continues, and even several republican media commentators, i think totally continue i think to totally misread and misunderstand sarah palin. here is a state-run media montage, where the state-run media is basically saying that sarah palin is basically me in a skirt. >> maybe rather than being the next president, she wants to be the next rush limbaugh. >> she could be the next rush limbaugh of the party. >> i do not think it precludes her from running, like rush limbaugh. >> rush limbaugh in a skirt. >> they get on these themes. they get on these, well, seems, and they are adopted them. i have no clue what she is going to do -- they get on these, well, sthemes.

there is a story about her going back to campaign for conservative democrats. when i watched her speech, i did not hear the word "republican" mentioned once. if i am sarah palin, and i am a conservative, the republican party has been just as mean- spirited to her as the democrats have. a lot of them have. a lot of the republican media, a lot of the conservative media have been. i do not know if she is going to get paid for conservative eumocrats, -- i do not know if she is going to campaign for conservative democrats. it is remote, but it is still a possibility out there, with a lot of people pushing a third party, but third parties, they lose. they just lose. third parties never end up with congressional or senate candidates. we will save that for later if

that actually begins to transpire what we see it beoioning to transpire. the bottom line is you have got to read willie brown in "grease san francisco chronicle." she is --çó "the san francisco chronicle." shida steps ahead of everybody strategically, does not fit any cookie cutter mold -- she steps ahead of everybody strategically. but also, as governor, she has been distracted with over half of $1 million in ethics charges. ñrnone of them are true. she is having to spend most of her time defending herself. cxdat the same time, let's say t she does have a future political aspirations. as a republican or as anyb[ì(lc+ çó opponents --

all of her supposed opponents do not have day jobs. let's look at the republicans, the ones that we think are out there. huckabee, romney, we hear christ, but he has a day job. sanford is gone. he is probably thinking michael jackson and the sotomayor stuff. but she has got to come down to the lower 48. these guys can do it anytime they want. she can overcome this quitting business, depending on what she does between now and then. greta: up next, president obama dropped a really bad concept about the economy. it may ask you -- it may have you asking really big pack -- questions about the stimulus package. and north korea. the top commander in south korea is making headlines today. the north korean military may want to tune in to this one.

secretary henry kissinger on this one. and remember, i threw out the ball at the mets game? well, president obama just did it. did he bounced it, or did he get home? we will show you -- did he bounce it? ç

>> this has been a more severe recession than we have seen. my expectation is that we will probably continue to see unemployment tick up. for several months. greta: out. -- ouch. "tick up." unemployment is the highest it has been in 25 years be a basic unemployment usually lags behind çother signs of an improving

economy, but when is the president's stimulus package supposed to kick in? joining us is david from market watch. david, why do you think the president is now saying that it is going to take up? -- tick up? >> the president has been slow to catch on, i think, even when its own economic advisrz have been talking, and the numbers that the government is actually news in -- actually using in planning, so he is a little behind. most of the people have been talking about higher unemployment numbers. in fact, the treasury, which ended the stress tests on the bank, and using numbers between 12% and 10% -- which did the stress tests on the bank. when he did it, i guess it makes it official. greta: david, on a point is an indicator. moving in the right direction, i

would give that to him -- unemployment is an indicator. what are the indicators that stimulus is working, it is not unemployment, and when will we see those numbers move in a positive way before we reach a conclusion about whether or not the stimulus package is working? >> a couple of things, greta. there have been problems with the stimulus package, and i think the administration would even admit that the money is not going out there as fast as they thought, so is not having the intended effect. also, the stimulus was sold as kind of the kick-start to the economy to get it moving again and get it going into positive territory, but the reality is is that it is more of a buffer against the downside, and we just cannot expect gdp to start rushing forward, with growth rates near 5%. that is not how it is going to work. that said, the congressional budget office said maybe the stimulus package will kick in in

the fall of 2009. some of the things the government is talking about in terms of getting the money out there, and may not have the effect until year end pre-empt -- it may not have the effect until year end. greta: i know about 10% of the money has been disbursed. is it that they are just not doing it right? they are not getting the money out there? they are inefficient? or is it a bad idea? >> i do not know. i think thereç are so many movg parts or different parts of the stimulus package. with the highways, the states are just sitting there, waiting. i do not know. i do know that the government does acknowledge that it is not getting out there. greta: david, thank you. >> thanks. you president obama just dropped two economic bombshells, and they are not good news. you just heard one of them. why is the other one? and maybe worse for you.

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[captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- president greta: obama took bad news right into the -- greta: president obama to a bad news right into the heart of high unemployment. >> some of the jobs that have been lost in the automotive industry and elsewhere are not going to be coming back. they are the casualties of a changing economy, and in some cases, just increase productivity and the plants themselves means that some jobs are just not going to return. greta: if that is the case, why did we spend so much money dealingh> general motors and chrysler? our guest joins us. is the job market changing profoundly there so they will get jobs? >> the job market is deteriorated profoundly, greta. the unemployment rate in michigan, he mentioned nine% to 10% nationally, and it is 15%

year --çó in michigan, you mentioned a 9% to 10% nationally. -- you mentioned a 9%. fewer people are -- you mentioned 9%. the hospitals in the area are reporting their first ever losses, and they are having to lay people off, so it is not just the automotive industry. those that are trying to grease the economic we'll hear, hear talk about alternative energy, battery power for cars -- ça greece the economic wheel -- grease the economic wheel. in the last 10 years, we basically lost 1 million jobs here in michigan, and that is an unsustainable rate, and it is also an unreplaceable number of jobs at this point in michigan. greta: and it is notç just michigan. the textile industry in the

south. it is not just michigan that is going to be hit by this. >> no doubt. greta: they are the most obvious loss of jobs, but there'll be a terrible boomerangw3 across the country. rick wagoner, some news for him? >> yes, he is going to be leaving general motors. he was obviously relieved of his job by obama administration in march, but he stuck around, and there was some argument about how much money he should be paid as part of a golden parachute. he was expected to be around $20 million. now, he will get $8 million. there was a $74,000 annual paycheck from the company. and a life-insurance policy that pays out about $2.60 million, so he will walk away with a lot of money in his hands, but not as much as we expected. greta: how long has he worked for gm? he is in a little different category. >> rick had been there for 31

years. he started in the mid-1970s, 1967, so about 32 years, and his tenuret( ended in 1979. he came right out of harvard business school to work at gm, and he ended up in detroit and became ceo in 2000 and chairman in 2003. greta: i was looking back at the election numbers, and president obama beat john mccain in the state of michigan. is the states split on the president, or as the automotive industry's situation changed that dynamic -- is the state split? >>-- is the states put on the president, or has the automotive industry -- is theç state split

on the president, or has the automotive industry changed that dynamic? >> it may have garnered more favre for obama. otherwise, these two would not be in the area -- garnered more favor for obama. greta: thanks. kimber john e. oil, the dear leader, may be dying, -- kim jongç il, the dear leader, and maybe die. and the last time i throw the pitch at the mets game, then, to me to a contract -- dear leader may be dying. and the last time i threw the pitch at the mets game, they almost gave me a contract. only kidding. first we add the baking soda, then we put the vinegar.

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that north korea can throw at us. that according to the top u.s. military commander in south korea. now, the world is watching the peninsula after a report that kim jong il may be dying of cancer. moments ago, former secretary of state dr. henry kissinger went on the record. good to see you, doctor. in april, north korea launched a long-range moissile. then they pulled us out of the talks and did short-range missiles, and now we hear that kim jong il is sick, and we do not know how sick, but what should the united states be doing right now? >> we have to understand what the issue is here. here is a country with a population of 20 millionç that has no foreign trade, no national resources, that is not in the international system, that for two decades with a

leading its own population has managed to build a small nuclear arsenal, and now they are working on delivery systems. the united states, china, japan, russia, and south koreaç has sd this is unacceptable. the u.n. has passed a number of resolutions, and they continue to have nuclear weapons. this will mean that the nonproliferation policy is substantially in jeopardy if not down the drain. how can we expectation of success in negotiations with iran if north korea gets away with this? and under those conditions, countries like japan and south korea are likely to enter the nuclear world, too, and we will be in a new world, and it will be a demonstration of what calls

itself the world community, so that is the fundamental issue, and can we bring it, can we bring about a change? greta: our top military commander in south korea said that they are ready, north korea and the u.s. is ready for any think that north korea will throw out south korea or anyplace else -- is ready for anything that north korea will throw at south korea or anyplace else. nothing has moved forward accept north korea testing weapons. that has moved forward -- except north korea testing weapons. >> the north koreans have told us the same thing three different times. they have a plutonium reactor which they closed down periodically for concessions, and once they have milked us for the maximum number of

concessions, then they start their reactor again, and we cannot go back to that, and we have to bring about a consensus from surrounding countries to bring korea,ç i would not say o its senses, because it does not have many senses, but to a recognition that this will not be accepted. if not, we will live in a world -- if that continues, we will see a proliferation of nuclear capability in asia, and it was certainly be even more difficult if not impossible to negotiate with iran. greta: well, china certainly does not wantç japan to get nervous and develop nuclear weapons, but it also seems to me that china is the only one with a sort of the power or influence over north korea to sort of ratchet up those sanctions. can we not get china to do more?

we talk about it a lot, but can we actually get china to do more? >> china has done more in the last u.n. resolution that it has ever done before, and there is a senior delegation -- and it has ever done before, and there is a senior it -- china has done more with the last u.n. resolutions than it has ever done before. greta: how much time do we have? >> well, it is really a question now. one year? but we cannot afford to have another -- if talks resume, we should not do them on a bilateral basis, because it is not between the united states and north korea. it is an issue between the world

and north korea. if the six-party talks resume, they have to be given a deadline, and they have to be in the context of the north koreans agreeing that they will stop their nuclear weapons capability. otherwise, we will go back with the same concessions over and over again while the rest of the world proliferates. greta: what happens when kim jong il, dear leader, dies, either passes the torch to his son, his brother-in-law, or the military? give me yourç prediction on who gets the torch, and tell me what is going to happen. >> the high probability is that the torch will be given to the third son. what is not at all clear is whether the third son, who has no visible government

experience, can hold together an establishment that has been in power for such a long period of time, so my prediction would be that this young man will be appointedç and that then some power struggle will take place underneath him that may not be very visible, but it is not impossible that under the strains of all of these, the system will start cracking. it is a very strange society. you have been there. you know. greta: i have been there, and is very different from the way we live. i will attest to that -- and it is very different from the way we live. >> it changes in a symbolic sense. if we are really committed to preventing the spread of nuclear weapons, as the president has

stated repeatedly and eloquently, and if we cannot manage it in their region in which the country that is proliferating has such limited resources and is surrounded by countries with -- and tensions, then the ability to do it and other regions will diminish all the more, and there will be an immediate impact on japan and south korea and a longer-term impact in the middle east. so it is a very important issue for the world, but we should not let ourselves be maneuvered in a position where we have to bear the inspire -- the entire responsibility for this. this is for the six-party talks with a deadline and with a determination to bring it to a conclusion this time, and the

conclusion has to be the destruction of the korean nuclear weapons capability. we have to remember that the north koreans have been proliferators of their technology all of these years. they build a nuclear plant in syria that"t israelis destroyed last year -- they built a nuclear plant there. they are a loose cannon in the situation, so this is an important test case of our ability to bring about de- nuclearization. greta: dr. kissinger, thank you, sir. >> a pleasure to be here. greta: çi just posted a new pol on gretawire.com. go to gretawire.com right now and vote. and that a death in a hotel room.

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justice o'connor, where it is said that a wise old manç shoud come to the same decision as a wise old woman, and you push back from that -- you deal with the famous quote of justice o'connor. >> i knew that justice o'connor could not have meant that if judges reach a different legal conclusions that one of them was not wise. that could not have been hurt meeting, because reasonable judges disagree on the conclusions in some cases -- that could not have been hurt meeting -- her meaning. i was trying to play on your words, and i fell flat. it was bad. >> they would choose to see some facts and not others. >> it is not a question of choosing to see some facts, senator. i did not intended to suggest that. in the wider context, what i

believe the point i was making is that our life experiences do permit us to see some facts and understand them more easily than others. >> lawyers anonymously rate judges in terms of temperament, and this is what they said about you. she is a terror on the bench. she is temperamental, excitable. she seems angry. she is overly aggressive, not very judicial. she does not have a very good temperament. when you look at the valuation of the judges on the second circuit, you stand out like a sore thumb. in terms of your temperament. what is your answer to these criticisms? >> i do ask tough questions in oral argument. >> are you the only one to ask tough questions in oral argument? >> no, not at all. greta: now, to a mystery in

florida. a man was found bludgeoned to death sunday in a hotel room. a few clues we know are mysterious. joining us is a reporter for "the miami herald." what happened? >> greta, he had traveled to new york's -- new york for a weekend's convention for about 1000 representatives -- for a weekend convention. he checked in on thursday with his wife, and on sunday morning, his wife told police that she what --ç she went out for breakfast, and when she came back at around 8:00 a.m., she found him lying down on the floor next to the hotel bed still in his pajamas. greta: now, this man's grandfathers started a very

famous hotel down in miami -- this man's grandfather, the fo çóuntainbleu? >> yes, and it was lost during a bankruptcy. he livedç in the hotel actuall, in the penthouse of the hotel, for very many years. he had actually used that to promote his business, is planning meetings nationwide. greta: -- his planning meetings nationwide. greta: how was it that his wife found the body? had she left the hotel room? >> right now, she says that she had gone down for breakfast, and when she came back, she found him there. the police chief said that he had been bludgeoned with a blunt

object. now, they have not said what kind of object. and they say that right now, they have no suspects. greta: how long will she gone from the hotel room? when did she leave for breakfast? >> we still do not have that information from the police department. we did ask. we just did not receive information, so we do not have the weapon or what time she left for breakfast. we only know that she came back at 8:00 in the morning, and police are quite tight-lipped about information surrounding the case. greta: this is a very strange homicide. luis, thank you, sir. >> thank you. greta: , up next, the best of the rest, -- up next, the best of the rest, and oh-oh. it does not get any stranger than this dealing with drew

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