that ammunition and." -- without that ammunition." [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- jane: new developments and questions in the shocking murder of a couple in florida with 13 adopted children. jon: we're waiting for news conference to begin any minute now in pensacola. you can see banks of microphones at already. in to the investigation of berg and melody -- into the murder investigation of berg and melody billings. but authorities are still looking for at least one more person of interest, something they theorized failed to tail out his assignment to disable the surveillance system. police arrested 47-year-old pamela wigans yesterday, described as a necessity to murder.

the gang in this video spends just four minutes inside their home. nine of the 15 adopted children were at home when their parents were killed. brian, what about this new evidence that has been retrieved? what can you tell us? >> yes, that is the new development in this area today. pamela was found at a wharf in nearby orange beach, alabama. we now have pictures of something being retrieved from the wharf. there is speculation this may be the safe from the robbery. we are going to hear in the next few minutes about what the evidence might be but this would be a huge development. there are a few threads we're following. first, we're trying to figure out about pamela wiggins and her

involvement in this case. she had connections to the person said to be the ringleader of this crime. the other thing we're trying to figure out is a who dropped the ball. police believe that the security system the was supposed to have been disabled. they now believe that it was supposed to have been disabled and we're beginning to find out that somebody apparently dropped the ball and they are looking for another person of interest. we believe that the sheriff will give us more information about that today. this case, the sheriff says, is almost mind-boggling. there are many on heard facets to the story that we have not learned about. they are protecting a lot of informations so we can inhibit integrity and not mess up criminal prosecutions, but there

are a lot of things, and evidence is being given to other law enforcement agencies so they can begin some of their other investigations. in the last hour, we have confirmed that the dea is somehow involved and that the serbs office reached out to them asking for assistance, and the dea now confirms to fox news that they provided that assistance. but they do not want to give more comments about it. we also believe there are investigations into the victim -- he was a well-known businessman, he was in and the use automobile and finance business and we are told that they are looking into his business dealings, and that might be instructive for the other cases that are beginning to develop as a result of this investigation. we just got word that this will be delayed a few moments. we are going to hear from a

share at the forefront of this case and he is making his debut to the community and the world at large. we need to stay here to give you more informations as it becomes available. jon: when we get a conference on rolling, we will go back to you live. thank you. jane: right now, two house committees are marking up its massive 1.5 trillion dollar proposal designed to overhaul the health-care system. a big issue is new taxes on the wealthy to pay for the plant. also the time line -- president obama is pressuring congress to pass the reform before the august recess. melanie, more lobbying today?

>> that is right. face-to-face appeals this morning. doug nelson and olympia snowe. he is also making public appeals. he has been mentioning his push for health reform this week and the health committee passed a plan yesterday saying that they want this done on a top timeline. jane: what is happening today in the two houses of congress? start with the senate. >> the finance committee is looking at this talking about how to pay for it. senator olympia snowe is going to be over in a half hour, and i believe we have a clip from her saying that what is the rush? >> i will do my work in here and they can issue all the time line and what, but in the meantime, i hope we can do a good job that

we need to do. i hope everybody respects that. >> they want this done by the august recess, just a couple of weeks away. the senate plan costs billions over 10 years, and includes a public auction. jane: anything out of the house today? >> three different committees marking up today, and it will probably vote in two of them. the question is how to pay for this. 1.2 trillion dollar plans, paid for in part by a tax on the wealthy, additional taxes on

those making $350,000 or more. republicans say it is a job killer and a burden to small businesses. jon: we are continuing to keep i on supreme court nominee sotomayor and she undergoes a final round of questioning in front of the judiciary committee. so far, she has avoided saying much of a whole range of hot- button issues including guns and abortion. her unwillingness to be pinned down is frustrated even some democrats. republicans can see that so far she has not made any missteps that would derail her confirmation. after her appearance, the committee will take testimony from a lengthy lineup of witnesses. mayor michael blumberg of new york city and former fbi director louis freed is just two of those on the witness list. if you want and i am the testimony, we have a streaming live for you on his -- if you want to keep an eye on the

testimony, which have been streaming for your life at -- we have it streaming for you live at foxnews.com. >> the markets are looking for direction after major gains over the last couple of days. the jobless claims are weekly data we get once a week that we see how many americans are on unemployment. 520,000 now, a big drop over the last couple of weeks. but it is a head shakes, because during this season, we have a little bit of volatility in this number, because the government accounts for all of the different furloughs in the industry. case-by-case. if you look at the americans'

continuing to collect first time employment, that number is steady. the harder it is to be to go of the job market, leading to a decline in consumer spending. in the meantime, the markets are split. jon: jane is too young for this, but those over a certain age remember 40 years today when apollo 11 blasted off. nasa is opening its video vault's, releasing restored versions of the moon landing. here you see neil armstrong and buzz aldrin raising old glory and taking their famous first

steps on the moon. some of this tape has been locked away, almost lost in the archives for nearly 40 years. we will have more later in the hour. jane: along with new pictures, nasa is playing a minute-by- minute account of the mission. it is cool to listen to. puts you in the middle of history as astronauts talk to mission control. it is streaming online right now. we want to play you some sound and punched into it right here. >> guidance is internal. 12, 11, 10, 9. ignition sequence starts.

6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0. lift off. we have a liftoff. 32 minutes past the hour. jon: this actually started -- the mission launched 40 years and 90 minutes ago. this is a tape we polled out. it is a real time playback. there are lots of his silent moments, which is why we pulled up the launch. jane: you can listen to some of the incredible refurbished video here that we are getting from nasa during this hour. also, i want you to tune in,

july 16, 1969. a live look tomorrow at 10 eastern. jon: 9/11 conspirators -- guess what? there are making demands to close down at gitmo. but khalid sheikh mohammad may take a different approach. we are live at guantanamo bay. jane: a fiery crash on an interstate. but it could have been worst.

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couple well known in the area for having 13 special needs children. eight suspects are in custody, seven men, one woman, and authorities have at least one more person of interest to talk about this morning. also, the dea is said to be involved, and we're expecting more details on that as well. as soon as the church steps to the microphone, which will take you there. -- as sure as the -- as soon as the sheriff steps to the microphone, we will take you there. jon: plowed into a fuel tanker last night, which crashed and parsley collapsed overpass. >> i have never seen so much fire. it is unbelievable. i've never seen anything like this in my life. >> i thought we all were going to die, you know? jon: 3 driver suffered only minor injuries, and michigan

police said that the accident would have been worse, except to assure truckdrivers were able to dodge each other and the pilot after the initial accident. jane: dramatic developments unfolding at the prison camp at guantanamo bay. 9/11 conspirators, including kelly chick mohammed, have a hearing today. but we are told that the detainees are refusing to come to court unless they can make a statement. the government has given the ok for that and we're hearing that muhammad may be on his way to court. catherine is there for us. you have been in that courtroom. update us on what has been happening. >> right now i'm about 24 yards from the courthouse, and i was there when i was told they were refusing to come to court because it wanted the opportunity to speak. the government said, ok, we have a plan. let them come and make a five minute statement. this is clearly advantageous to the government because they will

not have to incriminate themselves. this letter sent earlier this year set that the men said they accused us of killing millions of americans, but we see this as a badge of honor. the defenses against the move, but as you mentioned, the latest of operation we have is at least one conspiratorial on which to the courthouse right now -- is on the way to the courthouse now, and we believe that his colleague shake mahomet -- its khalid sheikh mohammad. i interviewed tip will families around here before we came to guantanamo, and they seem upset and distraught by what they saw unfolding in the courtroom this morning. at one point, a defense lawyer said to the judge, i want you to stop the government from harassing my client because he does not want to come to the court. and the suggestion that the government was alleging this

terrorists. jane: what can you sure about what you are watching unfold there? >> i think a couple of things are going on. first and foremost, i have been here many times and this is just another example of the 9/11 conspirators and their disdain and disrespect for the commissions and the federal courts. second, and i have spoken to other people who agree, is another example how the conspirators go for the process. the message communicated was that they did not want to come to the court unless it was on their own terms. had the end of the day, they come to their own terms, and that can help the prosecution. jane: thank you. jon: we are going back live to pensacola, florida, where we are waiting for the sheriff to step

to the microphone to give us new details on what is called a mind-boggling complex murder case. let's listen in for just a minute. at any rate, byrd and melanie billings, but well known in the pensacola area. he was an auto dealer and finance year with a number of businesses. eight suspects are in custody in this case, and it took just four minutes for the murders to be committed during a home invasion. there are other issues yet to drop. just yesterday, pamela wiggins was arrested in connection with the case. brian is down there covering it for us and can perhaps update us on what took place.

>> the problem here, it would be noon eastern, because the sheriff right now is in consultation with the state's attorney about the evidence that has been gathered. just to recap, yesterday, a personal interest was brought in named pamela wiggins. she was found at the marina in orange beach alabama not ours from here and they've retrieved a piece of evidence from that same marine up. as it was brought out, it suggested it may well be the safe taken from the home of a bird billings. it looks like it might be a safe. right now, the sheriff and states attorney, responsible for the prosecution of these cases, are in consultation so whatever the release in this press conference does not compromise the prosecution of this case.

so it has been delayed here for a short while but there are new developments popping in the story every few minutes, and we will bring you the latest when it becomes available to you. jon: you have talked about the complexity of the case. other agencies are getting involved? >> well, i know federal agencies are watching investigations. let me tell you what i get when i asked a question. i am told that they believe the murder cases have been solved, the murder of byrd and melanie billings is solved. they know the seven people in the house, they say, and have them in custody. but as information develops, it is causing them to pass it on to other law enforcement agencies, and this is the key phrase. they look into other businesses and into activities in other states and countries. that is the sort of buzz word that we've got in here. some other agencies are

involved. federal agencies are involved, the dea has been at least peripherally involved, so there is a lot of other things going on as a result of the investigation going beyond the murder, and one of the things they are looking at is not only the activities of the suspects, but also the background of mr. billings, an active businessman in the community. he was in the used car business, the financial loan business, and there are things we are told being looked at in his background, as well, but they do not have anything to do, they say, directly with the murder. it is a commission they have gathered directly with results of the murder investigation. jon: we will hear more in about 35 minutes when the news conference finally gets under way. brian is there to cover for us. thank you. jane: dramatic new video of what could be described as a great escape. family in georgia was trapped in

a van on fire to stop side of marietta. this is all caught on the dashboard camera. as somebody survive to this. according to the family it started when a tire blew out, causing sparks to ignite. the driver pulled over to the side of the road. two people got out, two others were trapped, including a disabled woman. police pulled the mall to safety and all four of them are expected to recover and be all right with some injuries. look at that. jon: unbelievable. we hear a lot of jobless numbers but if you look behind statistics to find real people who fall on hard times. some who lost their jobs and homes are forced to take up permanent residence at campgrounds across america. mariannas live along the shore at georgia. how many people are living in campgrounds across this country now? >> we do not have any hard

numbers as far as that goes and there are no people at this particular camp ground where we are now, but we found cases of families who have been forced out of their homes, down on their luck, feeling like they had no choice but to take the family tent and travel trailer and set up campsites like this. we're looking at a foreclosure rate of 30% up from this time last year, and if you couple that with the joblessness, there is a real problem and a lot of families left with no choice. jon: how to the campground family wind up there? >> well, we actually found a family who had a job and home, everything was going fine, and the housing perhaps -- collapse happened. they lost the home, they had a tent, setting up in a camp site, and now they have six people there. they say it is a choice known to have to face, whether to pay

their by bill or their rent. here is what they have to say. >> a million children homeless? how can that happen in this country? how can it happen? and i did not want my children to be part of that statistic. >> even more sat, he says he is taking odd jobs, trying to work when he can, but he simply is not making enough money and some money is going to put as little ones in day care so they do not have to be in the tent during the day. so far, people have come by bringing food and helping him find a temporary place to say, even offering free rent, and he said he was looking into that. he does not want to accept it, but he has got a family to take care of. he wants to make sure that everyone out here is aware that this could happen to anyone. your neighbor or france could be one step away from having to do the same things that his family has had to do.

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jane: a plan to overhaul the health-care system. president obama is lobbying hard, pushing for something to be done before the august resource.

democrats control both houses, but the question is, could there be trouble if they try and get through the legislation without public support? we have a former campaign manager for walter mondale, bob mondello. -- bob beckel. we also have a huckabee campaign manager. we read a quotation that said groups have made concessions to make this happen, and support could fault it this thing does not have republican support. -- this thing could fall off if it does not have republican support. >> i know the senator for montana. he has made a career on bipartisanship, and i know he has said it and and not surprised. the time has come, after obama

has done everything he can to get to the bipartisan bill, including republican amendments, they are not willing to come up with it? i think we have enough votes in the senate to bring conservative democrats along, and if it means to roll the republicans, ruled them -- roll them. >> there are parts in the bill, like the medicaid part, that will bankrupt states if the goal of that. they're talking about a massive program that will fundamentally change health care for generations. they need to do the right thing as opposed to just a trillion and a half dollars, that we have never seen before. the way the democrats are going out like this, they will raise a backlash. if they want to ramrod this the the congress and have a tax increase, it will be bad for the people. >> it is not ramroded.

i do not have to buy into that, and i do not buy into it that you need republicans to make this work. jane: the "new york times" says that republicans say we needed bipartisan bill, but now the message has been a hurry up. if you have to go without republicans, it is not the end of the world. what do we end up with? >> this is a trend for obama. the talk about bringing republicans along and bipartisanship but at the end of the day they have votes to do whatever they want. as much as it pains me to agree with bob, he is right. they do not need republicans. this will fundamentally change health care for the country, change our tax system, it will be a huge increase. i do think it is a great idea for me not to work and not get health care and -- and get

health care and let bob pay for it, but it will wreck the country. >> this current system is bankrupting the country. you cannot sit back and do nothing, which is a classic for the republicans. barack obama has met more republicans in three months than george bush met with democrats in eight years, trying very hard to bring republicans along. if you believe that this is a costly bill as opposed to the current system, this bill is point to be paid for. it will be paid for, and you cannot have the current system. it is bankrupting it. yet to start -- stop being partisan and do things in the interest of this country. jane: this amendment has been passed barely by one vote. if we have this public government run health program, members of congress would have

to enroll in it, and the support for that was split. what does that say? >> i think it is a good idea,. it is another public auction for insurance programs, and the big medical insurance industry is afraid because it will force competition. they're talking about providing another avenue of insurance different from the one that is currently in place, which is ripping off the american people and causing us to go broke on the medical front. jane: it sound like congress does not want to be part of that, though. >> there will be a 100% chance the amendment will not stand in the final bill. jane: good to see you guys. jon: also ahead, an exclusive piece on alan stanford, who is

charged with a massive fraud, ripping off 30,000 investors to the tune of $7 billion. one former employee warned the fed about his activity, but the accusation is that the fed to ignore the alarm. for the first time we will hear from the whistle-blower. adam shapiro has been covering it from day one and brings us an exclusive report. >> several years ago, she had a different name and warned the sec as well as finra, the self- regulatory agency over brokerages, that they should be concerned about mr. stanford. she spelled it all out for them at least going back six years ago. the bottom line is that this disaster could have been prevented and she says the thing that made her most concerned to sell this certificate of

deposit, it was unsafe. >> i am bombarded with emails. >> they were coming from whom? >> management, management. the managers there would send us emails and they even had scorecards and make a team within the office to see who would bring it. >> so the big thrust was to bring in deposits to stanford international banks and sell certificates of deposit, from management on down? >> that is right. >> and you had questions about those certificates. >> absolutely. i knew they were not fdic insured. i knew their financial statements. they were not audited by a

reputable accounting firm. instead, it was done by an unknown firm in manteca -- antigua. that is a red flag for me. >> a red flag that was ignored until stanford collapsed in 2009. you'll see more of what she had to say. she was ignored, and fired in 2002 for refusing to sell the cds. she had to pay stanford about $100,000 because she had a signing bonus and when they fired her, she had to pay part of it back and was not allowed to talk. had she talked, she could be sued for libel. she is now talking for the first time and is furious that they blew it. jon: thank you very much. jane: crocs. love them or hate them?

well, guess what? they may be going out of business. >> this is what everyone is talking about on the business of blog. there have been rumors about the company's demise for a while. now, their chief executive is saying he is surprised at how the recession has affected his business. for the past seven years, those ought, colorful,, the phone shoes have been everywhere from grandmothers and even diabetes patients. president bush had a pair. they sold over 100 million paris, half of them internationally. like most trends, this one is dying. in the last year, the company has lost $185 million. their stock price dropped 76%, they have cut 2000 jobs, and now they have until september to pay off massive debt, leading auditors to wonder how many

plastic shoes they could be stuffed with. but they were always affordable. they only cost $30 and less in the clearance i'll. major on-line discounts. at least one blogger will be happy. i found it website called itake -- a website called ihatecrocs.com. jane: they are very comfortable. you do not have to bend on down anti kids' shoes, but then they do not learn to tie their shoes. thank you. jon: presidents have all kinds of advisers, cabinet secretaries and the like. what about the czaris? some say that they are stronger than ever. we will take a look at their role.

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series of reports began yesterday. presidents appoint advisers to manage issues on their plate. president obama calls them czar blurry, and he has a stable of about three dozen whose responsibilities range from managing guantanamo to a host of domestic issues. critics charge that they have too much power and are not confirmed by the legislators. when bill? >> their power various can -- their powers vary. some have direct lines to the oval office, making secretary's nervous. michael leavitt says whenever the white house goes beyond mapping strategy and setting policy and starts to get into operations, there are problems.

>> from personal conversations i know that there are many internal squabbles about who is in charge of health care now, and that is not a formal and for a smoothly running white house. >> he admits that george bush's aid czar and food bazaar trample all little bit, but they were not in the white house. president obama actually has more in the white house, but with no budget authority and very little staff, they do not have much power anyway. >> you do not have a massive budget. you have a presence, but you are in in affect, a unit. >> it is it presents that is powerful and the white house, and yet the past few presidents

have increased their number. jane: of flashback hit you will. the summer of '69, apollo astronauts just blasting off on their mission to the moon. nasa is releasing more pictures and audio tapes of that first visit. very cool stuff.

jon: space shuttle endeavor is on the way to the space station now has picture showed debris breaking off the fuel tank and striking the shuttle. astronauts are set to begin an inspection to start at around 12:40 p.m. eastern time. the damage looks less extensive than what happened in the last

mission, but it will take study to figure out whether it is safe enough to endure fiery reentry that doomed shuttle columbia. jane: nasa is marking the 40th anniversary of the move to the moon by releasing tapes. they are on-line, giving you the blow by blow account of what it was like. you can listen to it at nasa .gov playing in real time. there are parts where it is silent. but then you can hear it. jon: restored versions of the mission put the voyage in a whole different light. let's talk about it with tom jones, a former astronaut and author of "planetology."

there is confusion, tom, about these videotapes, where they are and where they come from. can you clear it up? >> sure. nasa has been looking diligently for years for the missing apollo videotapes. these are recorded. they have been looking for these missing tapes, and they have been lost, they have not found them. so today what is being released are broadcast moonlight tapes, being cleaned up with this. jon: what i never knew is they

took a feed coming on for a moon and pointed a camera at it and been get out. it was a copy of a copy. >> that is right. they were aiming at a monitor in goldstone, so they got the best picture to photograph. this digital cleanup should help us get closer. jon: let's take a look at side- by-side video showing the difference between the grainy images in 1969 and have it looked clean up. the fact that these tapes disappeared for so long as part of the reason, i think, that there are so many people, and there are a handful, claiming

that we never landed on the moon and this was staged at a movie set in new mexico. will this put an end to it? >> if we staged it, we should have done a better job of it. we could have done a better job in 1969. the fact that it was so grainy and blurry puts a light to the conspiracy theory here. jon: it seems that, disrespect, we have stood here still in the program. our next pushes to go to the moon, and we have already gone there. can you give us your assessment? >> i think is great that they have chosen as a goal to get beyond it.

they pick to deep space as our next challenge. might be water on the moon but the spacecraft we developed, the orion, should be capable of going to the moon but also nearby asteroids. that is where we will find resources to industrialize and create a vibrant economy there over the next 50 years, perhaps even salt -- solving our energy missions. jon: only eight missions left? >> i will miss it as my home in space, and we learned over the last 30 years but the limitations and expense are high, and we need to go by the

technology and develop an economical system that also has exploration potential to take advantage of resources and discoveries to be made. jon: thank you. be sure to tune in tomorrow night for a special called apollo 11 -- one small step for our future. the first manned mission to the moon. july 16, 1969, 40 years ago the day that it took off. you can catch a look at it. jane: we are expecting more information on a murder in florida. we are told we will hear about a possible ninth suspect.

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a brazen bank robbery. guns drawn. police called an armed and dangerous. we will show you the new video. jon: the crew of the space shuttle endeavor is getting ready to give the heat shield a once over. they're looking for damage caused by falling debris hitting the shuttle during the watch. jane: a news conference in to the couple named bert and melanie -- byrd and melanie billings. eight people so far have been arrested. there she is there, pamela wiggins, smiling as she is led away by police. she is charged as an accessory after the fact of the murder. police say that they are seeking a ninth person it in trust, somebody they believe may have

been disabling the security system at their prom, and that is what gave police a their biggest clue. brian is on this story for us and is waiting for the news conference to get under way. it's like there are a whole lot of new details. >> there are. there are two threats to follow. pamela wigan's, yesterday a personal interest, now is charged as an accessory after the fact. she provided them with information and gave them circumstantial evidence, but the new development is that the same place she was found yesterday, in alabama, not far from pensacola -- they recovered a piece of evidence and the video seems to show that it may be as safe that they have been seeking taken from the column during the commission of a crime. so that is what we are hoping to get informations on today.

we're not absolutely sure it was the safe, but it looks like it might be. the other thread we should watch ford here has to do with this other person at in trust. as they continue the investigation and talk to suspects, and some of them are talking, they have the sense they were expecting the security system was going to not be on, and we were sad -- surprise to find out that it was working. they love to get the arise, and there was supposed to be someone who disabled the system. we may hear more about it.

>> they are trying to make sure they do not mess up evidence. that is what is going on right now. jane: what do they do for a living that they would be targets of this and vault robbery with so many people? >> he had a used car dealership and a number of businesses. we found that he and his wife had a host of businesses and their names. he was in the financial services business, and we know he made loans to people. i can tell you that as a result of information gathered in this murder case, it has been passed on to other agencies, and others are said to be under way.

those investigations will look at other businesses. it will go to other states and countries. jon: centers are wrapping up their questioner of supreme court nominee sotomayor, but the hearings do not end here. more will testify, including a white firefighter in a reverse discrimination case. we are keeping track. the why is latina congress thing has been a stumbling block. we got an apology? >> that statement is not going away. it has continued to be on the top of the question list.

here's what she had to say about the statement. >> i have offended some people. i believe that my life demonstrates that that was not my intent, to leave the impression that somebody had taken from my words. >> not an exact apology, but it did satisfy senator gramm. these are the witnesses everyone has their eyes on. we will hear from frank ricci, who said he spent money and time to do well on the examination and did not get promoted because

the city was worried about a lawsuit from minority firefighters. one hispanic firefighters joined the others. they are not here for a hatchet job. the supreme court overruled the decision. they will not play politics, just tell stories. david cone, the major league baseball player is on the list. if you remember, the president introduced it and was involved in issuing an injunction.

louis freed is here today, as well. they were but interestingly appointed by george bush. jon: if you want to catch the sotomayor hearings as they continue, we have at streaming live have at foxnews.com. jane: new information on a cia effort to capture or kill al qaeda leaders. the program was terminated when george tenet let the cia in 2004. the plan was said to never be fully operational. they are asking why they were never told about it.

jennifer, you have been trying to unravel this. explain it to us if he will. >> president bush give a blanket. one of the proposals was to set up hit teams. under george tenet, they tried to go overseas. it never got off the ground, so george tenet cancer program -- cancel the program. porter goss came in and was briefed on ways to go after the leaders. according to a senior intelligence official i talked to, he essentially said the proposal had died. michael came in and was briefed again by the cia. this was one, and it essentially

never got momentum. leon panetta, and one official said they were asking for permission for training and that is when he decided to kill the program and go to the hill and tell them about it. and this mountain was made out of a molehill, according to one former herpetologist -- intelligence official. this has been blown out of proportion. jane: do you know why director panetta had to brief them on and non operation a program? >> it was said this morning that they try to air on the side of caution, and there were questions about how,

logistically, they could carry this out, whether it will be effective, because they said there were problems with it. so they figured they would air on the side of telling congress, but it got leaked when democrats rural letter demanding information about it and it blew up. i spoke to someone at the cia today and essentially they are saying that leon panetta still stands by his decision to go to the hill and brief congress and the director of national intelligence thinks it was the right thing to do. but the way it was in explain to me is that it never gained momentum and was made for the directors of the cia, and just now that it bought more attention. but it never got on it. jon: nasa is keeping a close at

-- i on endeavor. there is debris coming out of the fuel tank, hitting the shuttle. about a half hour from now, the crew will check out a 100-foot laser-tipped boom to help control see how bad it will be. nasa said it will take days to get a full damage report, but major damage should be apparent tomorrow. they can use a zoom lenses to photograph the entire shuttle as it arrives and prepares to dock at the station. jane: let's check on wall street. investors trying to keep the rally alive. j.p. morgan chase is reporting a huge second quarter profit.

goldman sacks posted a $3.7 billion profit. it was not just months ago they needed a bailout dollars from you and i. we have the executive editor of forbes magazine. good to see you. let's talk about how they did this so quickly in layman's terms. >> i wish this was a sign the economy was turning around, but what happened is corporations were desperate and needed to raise it. they did secondary offerings and had to get into the computer consumer revenue to help it. jane: i guess some people would say they are annoyed that they use their money and now you're talking about goldman paying out record bonuses to their

employees. >> absolutely. when they were in trouble, they socialized with taxpayers, and now they will keep 49% of revenues going to employees. when things are good, they are very good, when there are bad, they are a problem. jane: we are going to get to stop there. >> i wanted to restated because of the nature of the investigation and asked for some compassion. a lot of wild rumors floating around, and any investigation as complex as this one, with all the players involved, we must remember we're talking about people's lives.

not just for today, but for years to come. no additional information is being provided at this time. that is a statement from the dea. to put it in context, they were called in. they are assisting us in any area. i have said that the billings family, to my knowledge, is not the focus of any investigation by the dea. i am not sure where that happened, but let us put this to rest. we asked all little -- a little

about it. i will bring out the district attorney, who will update you. >> by people work last night, we have located valuable evidence, and this tape is being processed. but we have located several guns, one of which we believe is the murder weapon. we believe that it has not been processed yet. as you know, yesterday or late last evening, the sheriff announced at the arrest of an additional person. we anticipate if a capital

charge is found, that is a first-degree felony. i will ask the sheriff to combat -- comment on this, and we believe that they are loose ends to tie up. all of you know how it has progressed. we will consolidate our reformation and we believe that this concludes the matter. this was a home invasion robbery where the people stole a state -- safe, and we recovered it.

i would like to give you an opportunity to adapt additional comments about those matters. >> i agree with mr. edmund to that that is the basic premise. we do believe has as it progresses, additional motives will be found. we have a saying, is what it is. you follow the lead that are developed and not your speculation. we must be fact-driven, and that is why many times and palm -- in press coverage is you will hear me say that. we have people of interest we are continuing to look at, now

numerous. but to me to put that in perspective. we interviewed people you were never made aware of, because after an interview, we found they did not have any of the nation of substance to this investigation, so they went away. we have a couple of folks we need to contact and interview to put kids to bed, and that is where we are. i agree that we're at the end of this investigation, and we will keep updated on it. >> when she tried to destroy it or hide evidence? >> we are not want to comment further on the evidence that was seized. they request that i make the determinations because of the fact it is a case that is

pending. are obviously seven cases pending, eight with the arrest of a camera along. we are not going to be able to answer additional at this time. the purpose of this conference was -- >> to do what we have done, to indicate the primary portion is concluded. because of the fact we have pending cases, we're not on to make any comments as it goes to this case, and this phone -- press conference will only be able to take a few questions.

we believe we made the appropriate decision at this time to charge with accessory over the fact, and that is what we have done. the investigation continues, and we are not going to rule in or rule out where our investigation is going. >> what connection to the suspects have with gangs or drug dealing? >> let's put this in context. this is for the dea to determine. it is within the purview of our agency, and we will not conduct an investigation within a federal agency as opposed to a local. so as a courtesy, so i would remain within my of legal

requirements, i passed it on to the proper agency. again, this information is now with the d.a. and i cannot answer any questions involving any investigation they may or may not initiate. >> you're saying today that the case may come to a conclusion. >> yes we are. we're looking to that case. >> to your knowledge, are there any other federal agencies or law enforcement agencies looking into background activities of the family and that business? >> to the best of my knowledge, no. i would have no knowledge

because it is not within the purview of this sheriff's office. >> can you tell if you found her? >> we can make no further statement about the evidence. i will recap. we have charged with excess real the fact and recovered the say and several guns. >> when you say you believe you may have found the gun used, is the statement saying that you believe only one gun was fired by the couple?

>> the guns had not been processed yet, so we cannot comment further. we believe we have the murder weapon or weapons. >> there is some confusion over the charges. two counts of murder? can you clear that up? >> i certainly can. as i understand it, we have charged all seven defendants with two counts of murder, and there's an open count of murder and the degree will be determined. we may have some arrest warrants and that sort of thing, but all sort of people have been charged with zero counts of murder, as i understand it, and we intend to

present evidence of that nature in the near future. jane: florida authorities informing us the details of the murder of a pensacola couple who were adoptive parents to 13 children, many with special needs. they were murdered in their home, and we are told that many of them are in and out of the house in four minutes. they have recovered the building safe from the home and several guns, including the murder weapon. they have said that robbery was a motive. jon: investigators recovered two of the three black boxes from the russian airliner that crashed after taking off from

teheran yesterday. 168 people aboard a flight bound for a -- armenia were killed. the detail was on fire before it nosedived onto the ground. jane: the walls of the separation between israel and the west bank is covered with new messages. >> people all over the world have a problem with that this wall. thank you to the wonders of the internet, they are going to be able to post their own. >> this became a prime target

for a protest as old as paint. through a dutch web site called send a message, a message can pay $50, type a message, and a palestinian strays critics praise it on the wall and do get photographic proof. miles of the wall have been tagged with more than 1000 messages by proxy. they end up in two categories -- political, "mr. netanyahu, tear down a wall," , or personal. a third of the feet by is the spray cans, and the rest goes to palestinian social projects. we have the volunteers. >> i understand throwing things

and stones. >> the guys sending a message to do exercise editorial control. they will not post anything dirty and certainly will not pose any messages for israel. you only get the palestinian side. the guy with all the painting says he is famous across the world for his spelling. jon: that is creative. armed and dangerous -- two brazen thieves take over a bank and get away with all whole lot of cash. police say they are very, very dangerous.

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jane: looking for damage. video shows chalks of debris hitting the surface of the shuttle, and we will have pictures of the crash live. jon: you can relive the historic moon mission. >> it is these onions in california are not making the owners cried. they are powering the plants. jon: a battle is brewing on capitol hill, republicans promising to fight democratic efforts to pay for the health

care reform plan with new taxes. one democratic congressman is a political liability to fail to rees a support. it would be nicer if we had someone in the middle. there may be one or two republicans. let's talk about it with washington managing editor bill salmon. where is this thing stuck right now? it seems like the chairman is carrying most of the load here. >> yes. he said this will not pass, it will be a partisan bill.

it will not work, because the interest groups have signed on, agreeing to to cost savings to share the burden. at the costs will drop off if it becomes a one-party bill. by contrast, senator tom harkin of iowa has come out, saying, you know what? we do not need republican votes. we can do this just with democrats. we have 60 votes in the senate so we do not need the republicans. democrats are deeply conflicted on this health care issue as the clock continues to tick. jon: 60% believe it is somewhat likely that middle class taxes will rise.

>> is a big number, and when the house put out its version of the reform bill, the big controversy provision there was that they would hang it all on the rich, who only soaking the rich, adding up to 5.4% more in income taxes to the people and households earning a million dollars or more, 8% or 2. glut most americans, overwhelming numbers, believe that really, it is going to end up and get soaked with higher taxes. they're looking at these polls, and it will be four times as big as next year.

they said, how are we going to do this? a plan for health care reform on top of a couple of trillion dollar deficit. that is why they have three weeks schiedam, which is what my sources are telling me. jon: senator tom coburn, a physician from oklahoma inserted language in this bill suggesting, or requiring, members of congress have to abide by the terms of the rest of the public, and they barely got it passed. that speaks volumes about what the senate really puts for that.

>> 8 could vanish if and when the bill gets passed and comes to reconciliation. that is where stuff gets taken out. members of congress do not want to be subjected to this government insurance option. and that is what it is. it is a benign terms, and members of congress do not seem to want it. jon: all right. good to talk to you. thank you. jane: how's this for a budget boost? california officials say a proposal to tax and regulate marijuana would generate $1.4 billion in revenue. a new report estimates retail sales would bring an $990 million by charging a fear -- fee of $50 an hour in addition to sales taxes.

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jane: if you have been wondering how they will pay for health care reform, it turns out the upper end of the tax bracket may put a tug of the bill. but how much is too much, and how much is this group paying? i will talk to sean hannity this afternoon. he will also tell us what he has against bike riding. trace: no surprise that government is getting bigger, but now we have home numbers about how big it is getting, and here is the clincher -- how much is going to cost you. coming up the top of the hour. >> wait until you see this video coming out of pennsylvania. take my picture off of the screen and go to live pictures coming in. this is a rock quarry, and there's a truck in the center of all this.

he can barely tell that that is what it is, because it overturn somehow. they have a level one trauma center standing but will be transporting immediately. you could see here a closer view of this, and it is going to be tough to pull anyone out, because the ground is soft. there is tricky work for rescuing. we're told that one person is trapped in all of this. they're awaiting a standby with a level one center.

this is at swamp road in pennsylvania, and it has been going on for just a few minutes, and i will keep my eyes on the screen to learn more. jon: nasa is trying to figure out how much damage, if any, the space shuttle endeavor sustained during liftoff. the shuttle was hit two or three times by at debris breaking off of the tank. steve is live in washington. if they find damage, what did it do? >> they have prepared kits, and they can do a space walk and try and examine damage to see if they can repair. we're seeing some of those all- important heat shield tiles mike and scott, not necessarily broken or knocked out all

together but just the outside has been knocked off by some of the debris. they are extremely important. they protect the underside is a constant for reentry, and the extreme heat can be dangerous. it is important they do that. and at engineers examining the video, and the crew will use the laser-tip to boom to look at the tiles and identified damage. when they hooked up with the space station, which is their goal, group will. cameras out there for lenses. jon: it is scuffed. they are saying it may not be all that serious?

>> maybe not. the space shuttle columbia was destroyed on reentry because of a hole caused by damaged tiles. they cannot be fixed on a space walk. they do have another option, which is that true calling up inside can have to wait two or three months. jane: reliving the moon mission today. a lot of people are doing it in real time. courtney is showing us how to do it online. it is easy, right? >> yes. if you cannot go into space, her head into cyberspace. here is the websites. it is hard to get to. you have to download adobe

flashed player can. in as animated recreations of key events from the mission, and you can look apple pictures, three different winterfeed, rousing thousands of pages of mission documents to get an even alert when it would headhunt touched down the name comes from a speech given in 1962 when they said that we paid to go to the moon and do things. there is the section. check it out. jane: be sure to tune into apollo 11, one small step for the future. the first manned mission to the moon, july 16, 1969. you can see it tomorrow at 10 eastern right here on fox news channel. jon: lot in a bitter custody battle for five years, trying to get back his son.

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jon: these are live pictures coming to us now from the space shuttle endeavor as it heads towards the international space station. seven astronauts on border using the time to scan the belly of their ship. there is concern that debris broke up the external fuel tank and the belly of the shuttle. that is exactly what doomed the shuttle columbia years ago, because it pounced b wing, hot gases came in.

since then, every a flight has been carefully scanned with a laser tip boomed, taking precise measurements, able to measure any gains in the ship. that is what they're doing now, and we will let you know how it goes. jane: onionskin give you bad breath. have you noticed? we have. imagine harnessing that power to fuel your home. it sounds crazy, right? " we are in oxnard california, at a joint venture between the onion co. and southern california gas. explain what is coming on question marks -- explain what is going on? >> yellow onions just came from the field here in southern california. the unit of -- they use them for onion rings.

the onion stuck is now being processed. it is being turned into onion juice, which goes back processing. this poll in october, when it goes he out and -- this paul -- this pulp is sent out to the cows. they are saving $70 a year in energy and another 400,000 in this stuff you had to dispose of. in the end, -- they are good. we have to tell you.

there is a big tub of money. if there are two power homes, taking power forward 50 a year, producing a lot of electricity out of left over onion waste. jane: give that guy a beer. he needs a drink there. jon: president obama is headed to new jersey to do campaigning on behalf of john corzine. a new jersey man is steamed at the president right now, who said he would do what he could to get sean goldman back from brazil after being taken there by his mother. we will talk to david goldman, his father, about the status of the case, coming up. .

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jon: we have told you about the agonizing story of david goldman locked in a five-year battle in the brazilian courts. he is trying to bring home his own son back to the united states. sean's mother took him to brazil supposedly for a vacation in 2004. she died during the initial custody battle. but sean's brazilian stepfather, the man that she remarried, has vigorously fought the idea of sending him back to america and his natural father.

as heart breaking and hard to believe as goldman's plight is, it is shared by scores of other american families. there is new legislation now in congress that may help these americans get justice. joining us now is sean's father david goldman and his attorney. i know that congressman chris smith, your congressman, has introduced this legislation. what would it provide, david? >> it provides a mechanism and the tools greatly needed by our state department that finally have some teeth to help bring our children home. it has some accountability in it which we really need rather than just speaking and writing papers and notices, this actually has some sub stan -- substance behind it which is long overdue. jon: the hague convention is black and white clear on this. your son should be sent home. this new legislation would what? enforce some sanctions if the

hague convention is not followed? >> right. it would -- anything from visas to loans, to scientific projects to some conferences. these treaties are based on reciprocity. brazil is now a one-way street. return is not in their words except finally one judge 82-page decision return order with my son, but he is still in brazil. not only for my son but for the other american children trapped in brazil and in many other countries and some aren't hague countries. this will be a great piece of legislation to help all of our american children trapped in foreign lands. jon: patricia, this case seemed to be moving david and sean's way a month or two ago. all of a sudden it is stalled. how would you assess it right now? >> well, there are a number of applications that have been

made. motions sought purely to delay this matter that have been dealt with by the court. we're hoping that bite middle to end of september, the appellate court will be able to address all of the appeals and affirm what we expect them to do, affirm the judge's decision and to return sean at that time. jon: david, president obama's coming to new jersey later tonight for a fundraiser for governor corzine. i know he pledged his support before and after he became president. he met with the brazilian president last week. what would you say to the president if you could talk to him tonight? >> it's pretty ironic. i'm in his back yard. still fighting to bring my son home. he is in my back yard campaigning for a governor. i would ask him to continue to push for progress and get our children home, whatever it takes. he is a family man. he knows what it is like to love your children. not only being president but being a family man with morals,