the orly factor is next. day. not a b b >> this is a fox news alert. nine dead, 50 injured after a pair of powerful explosions rocked two luxury hotels in jakarta, indonesia. at least nine are dead, 50 injured following the attacks, the first at a marriott hotel, the second at a ritz-carlton just before 8:00 a.m. local time. u.s. officials said one american is believed to be injured, but we have not confirmed that. anti-terrorist forces are at the scene of both of the blasts. they're not speculating as to who may be behind this. we will bring you the latest as we get the developments in the newsroom. we go live to our fox business correspondent in the philippines. we have coroneted bombings, the

first in several years. it followed a time when the government had made progress in tackling security threats from militant islamic groups. what can you tell us about this? >> that is true, it has been about four years since there have been any bombings in indonesia. that brings that to an end. the immediate suspicion falls to a local muslim terrorist network linked to al qaeda. nobody has put the linked together, but that group has been very active. the bali nightclub bombing was the first linked to that group. there have been active. there have been a number of arrests recently. three of those convicted bombers were put to death last year. it had been very quiet up until this point. these bombings today which

targeted the marriott which has been hit before and the ritz carlton bringing an end to the peace that indonesia has known, and raising questions about whether this terrorist network has been dismantled or has been reconstituted or of this is another group altogether.

o have some bureaucratic bone head who is only counting dollars and cents and you certainly don't want to be standing in a long

line like the one million brits currently waiting to be admitted to a hospital, and another 200,000 just hoping, oh, please, i can't wait to get on that waiting list. we get annoyed here in america when it takes us 45 minutes to see a doctor, but at least we get to see one at the end of the 45 minutes. are we are really going to listen and follow in the footsteps of europe? i mean, how many times do they have to goose step before you will listen, guys? the place that gets a little hotter than usual, sometimes in the summer like it did in 2003 -- i love this in europe. i don't know if they're trying to save the planet so they don't have a lot of energy or ma whatever it is, but do you remember in 2003 it was a lot hotter and people were like, my goodness, it's hot. we turn up the air-conditioner. over in europe, 37,000 people died. statistics show it is worse in canada.

800,000 of their 33 million citizens are on waiting lists for more than 18 weeks. that is twice as long as the blessed doctors in canada consider clinically reasonable. let me put this into perspective. that's like having every single person in los angeles, chicago, and seattle, over 7 million americans would all be on waiting lists. what are we are doing? why is this happening in canada? simple. doctor shortages. apparently canadian medical school graduates just don't want to make 42% of what ours do and don't want to work with all the bureaucracy. so what do they do? they come to america. what else is coming to america? how about the tens of thousands of patients a year, including the prime minister of italy? if socialized medicine is so great, let me ask the prime minister, why did you come

here in 2006? why did you have your heart surgery at america's cleveland clinic instead of staying at home with your socialism? did you know it's free over there? before we trash our current system, in new york state, they heaped nearly a 60% tax on the rich to pay for healthcare. put this in perspective. you're making $1. this is what you keep -- i'm sorry. this is what goes there. this is what you keep and you can spend. i mean, shouldn't we ask ourselves who in this country is going to innovate? you know, greed is a bad thing, but a little bit of a greed is a good thing. somebody saying gee, if i fix that, i could get rich. i got an idea, why don't i fix that? wake up, america. this is turning into a country i don't even recognize anymore. our grandparents left europe. they packed up everything that

they owned. they left family and friends behind. they got on the ships and they came here to america to dream, to be free. they came to embrace the entrepreneurial spirit. they didn't come here and risk everything and work their butts off only to have our dopey politicians in washington say, you know, the mother country was pretty great. our government is giving them the very government programs they were running from. wake up. here is comedian and magician libertarian penn jillette, the show penn and teller, p.s., is on show time tonight at 10:00 p.m. and the coanchor of abc's 20/20, john stossel. don't miss his upcoming special on healthcare in canada. is it a special or a segment? >> it is just a segment. glenn: you have the whole primetime, you can carve out a couple of minutes.

>> we talked about doing a whole show on b.s. in canada. glenn: i don't have a problem with canada! >> canada doesn't exist! glenn: john, let's start with you, the canadian healthcare -- i'm tired of hearing, because i grew up across the border in bellingham, washington. i know the people, they built a special part of the hospital just for all the people coming in across the border to escape canadian healthcare. tell me what you found out in canada. >> what stuck most with me was the town that had a lottery. so many people were waiting to get a family doctor. they can't get one. once a month the town clerk pulls names out of the box and calls the lucky winners, congratulations, you get to see a doctor. glenn: penn, insurance really is, i think, the problem, because we have no restraint. we have no restraint

whatsoever. >> yeah. if you have food insurance, there's nothing but gourmet shops. what we have is not really insurance. what we have is prepaid. that's a very big difference. if you had it so that the people could get real honest catastrophic coverage so they were really covered if they lost a lot of money and had a catastrophic event, but still had control over what they were paying on a smaller level, at least someone who was consuming the service would have some control over the payment. it's really far from individuals, then it seems like a bad thing. glenn: i don't know either one of you guys if you have had this happen to you before, but i have sat in a doctor's office and he will say what kind of insurance do you have? he will be writing a prescription and say what kind of insurance and i will say whatever and he will say, i'm going to give you this

instead. they make different choices based on if somebody else is paying for it, and if you're fully insured, you don't care. >> as glenn say, if you had grocery insurance, you wouldn't care about the grocery store and the incentives to spend more are just insane. that's the problem with healthcare, and yet the politicians say the solutions are more insurance. glenn: right. i don't know about you guys, but once again, put all three of us up. here are three libertarians on television, at once, and this looks like their convention right now. when we talk about -- >> judge andrew napolitano is number four. glenn: yeah, he's watching from yun stairs saying this is chronic! the other argument people always had is well, then, what are you going to do to fix it? first of all, i put people in

charge of their own medical care, and then i also cap the attorney's, because the other reason why nobody seems to care is that the doctor is under so much pressure to not get sued that he will do absolutely every test because he doesn't want somebody to say, well, why didn't you do that test? >> it is safer to do a thousand tests when somebody else is paying so they do many more. i don't think that cap something that fair or libertarian saying that the attorney should be capped. glenn: how will reducing the numbers? if you putting -- if the person that comes and brings this ridiculous lawsuit loses, they pay for it, i'm all for it. >> and then the parasite class can't just go suing everybody for bad reasons and when they're proven wrong, they don't even have to say they're sorry r glenn: so, penn, how would you fix healthcare? >> one of the things is all this pretending that we're

going towards soablized medicine. we're not going towards it. we're already there. one of the problems is that people are pretty happy with medicaid and medicare, and i'm not. i think that morally, philosophically, individuals having more choice and more control over what they do is a really good thing. i'm afraid that i would like to get insurance away from the employers. i don't know why your boss has to be in charge of your insurance. it should be the individual's to travel with them. that was only put in, as i understand it, during world war ii. it was a work around of wage freezes to be able to give people more stuff. stop the employer from being in charge of that and make it individual. your employer is not in charge of what you eat, and eating is as important as medical care. glenn: right. here is the deal in new york -- because i'm a small business owner and i have 20

employees. i can't go out and buy a -- be part of a plan in the entire country. i can't get a big group plan, but the government can, but they restrict insurance companies from putting a big huge group in, so it's costing me an arm and a leg. it's worse in new york than i bet anyplace else. >> and it's illegal to buy a policy in new jersey state where they may have fewer stupid rules, so your policy costs more. glenn: that's right. i want to show you john stossel's segment on healthcare in canada and great britain. watch this. >> you want innovation and fast treatment? that often comes from people pursuing profits. you see that in canada, because even here, there is one area where they do offer easy access to cutting-edge technology. >> c.t. scans, endoscopy, laparoscopy and arthroscopy procedures to evaluate joints, for cartilage abnormality. >> available all the time? >> 24 hours, 7 days a week. >> patients rarely wait.

>> if i see a patient that has torn a ligament, we can generally have that patient scheduled within probably a week. >> but you have to bark or meow to get that kind of treatment. want a c.t. scan in canada? private bed clinics say they can get a dog in the next day. for people, the waiting list is a month. glenn: it's absolutely unbelievable. let me ask you both this question, and you said a minute ago that, you know, healthcare went to the employers back in the 1940's. i went back and played on the radio show today, a fireside chat by f. where he talked about the second bill of rights? are you familiar with the second bill of rights? i'm going to play it on television, because there is video of it as well. it's practically been erased from our history books. he talked about there was a right to a job. he actually wanted to put this into the constitution, a right

to a job, a right to a house, and a right to healthcare. it was rejected, but if you look at things, he did put the beginnings of healthcare, and did put the beginnings of you will never have to worry about it with social security. he put the beginnings of a right to a house right now about 60% of houses owned by freddie and fannie, and what does obama? do? he says, by the way, we'll just buy your house, if you're going to collapse or something, then you can just rent from us. my gosh, our country is being transformed into something that is nothing like what our founding fathers laid out. true or false? >> it is certainly going in that direction. i think today that platform would win. it sounds good, yeah, i have a right to a house, i have a right to healthcare. we have to explain that to people that if you want good houses and

good healthcare, all the innovation comes from that evil capitalism. glenn: i know, i know. go ahead, real quick. >> i was going to say that you always talk about the ambitious people are the ones who want to work hard. you should stick up also for the lazy people. capitalism allows people to do just enough to get by and not have government tell them what to do. that's also a reasonable life choice. glenn: it is. i have absolutely no problem with that. you know that there are more beds in new york city than there are homeless people. there are more beds in homeless places in new york city, true or false, john stossel? >> i have no idea. glenn: come on, you are like mr. know everything. >> i don't know everything. glenn: the city actually hires people to go out and a lot of times they know these guys by name and say please go come into a shelter. they choose not to. that's fine. in america, you should be able to do that, but why is it that

we have this nanny state and again it comes back from the progressive movement in the early 20th century where they talked about, i think it was h.g. wells who was a big progressive who says the state has a right to humanely put you down if you refuse to work or to conform to society. this is craziness. >> i had to apologize to iewd i did jewelian ny because i -- i had to apologize to rudy jewelian ny. i felt if you wanted to sleep on the streets who are we are to say you can't? he made new york a lot nicer place to live. glenn: i don't have anybody with a scweejy at a stoplight squeegie at a stoplight making me pay them. >> possibly that was just

timing. crime went down not because of what they did but just because crime went down. glenn: i want to do a rapid fire. we have a minute on the clock. this is libertarian rapid fire. are you are ready? john, we're starting with you, a minute on the clock, go! who is your dream third party candidate? >> i am. glenn: you are? penn jillette, spell lazy fair? >> oh, no, i will not do it! >> stossel, would you rather be the american idol czar or the america's got talent czar? >> america's got talent czar. glenn: penn jillette, what government agency would you get rid of first? >> social security. glenn: john stossel, would you rather see a doctor in the dakotas on an indian reservation or in canada or in gitmo? >> gitmo. glenn: me, too.

penn jillette, naming your child "ine" is that doing them good or putting them into ob security? oh, it's over. john stossel, when is your special over? >> a week from tomorrow on friday. >> and we have a special tonight at 10:00 on b.s. and we got nominated for an emmy today. ha ha, no, stop, stop.

glenn: remember how president obama wanted to restore science to its rightful place?

he wanted to put science ahead of ideology. his new science czar wrote a book that says you can't get anywhere surprisingly except for universities like columbia. he once wrote with very little disapproval about using forced sterilization for population control. mark hemingway is with the national review on-line and i have been following this guy for the last week on the radio show and some of the other czars we have. true or false, two of the most frightening people that you have seen come through in government in a very long time >> oh, i think that's absolutely true. the stuff that is contained in that book that obama czar john holdren wrote 30 years ago is beyond everything.

he has been on t.v. recently saying the same thing. >> he had it op his resume and just recently took it off. >> it is really an astonishing book. one other interesting thing about the book is that it was cowritten by a guy named paul erlich, who is a scientific laughingstock. the guy spent decades making nothing but gloom and doom predictions that turned out to be entirely false. glenn: he just said that every bit of oceanic life that was worth anything would be wiped out and dead by 1980. oh, he was close. let me give a couple of highlights here. this is what he says from holdren's book. he says -- this is about coercive sterilization. "of course the government might require only implantation of a contraceptive capsule leaving its removal to the individual's discretion, but requiring reimplantation after childbirth."

we sound like china. then the next one. this is about putting sterilization stuff in drinking water "to be acceptable, such a substance would have to meet some rather stiff requirements. it it must be uniformly effective. it must be free of dangerous or unpleasant side effects, and it must have no effect on members of the opposite sex, old people or children or pets or livestock." so he doesn't mind making men sterile, as long as, you know, fluffy isn't hurt. >> right, right. think of the livestock. that's what we have to be concerned about here. sterilizing people with the drinking walter it is like they watched dr. strangelove and said this is a how-to manual. glenn: i will tell you i read james roland, and this is a novel and i looked the stuff up. have you heard of the company episit snevment >> no.

glenn: look it up. episit-e in 2001, and this was a news story on september 9, 2001, and that's why most people don't know this, they were experimenting with corn that could be a contraceptive, and it was experimented on, et cetera, and then the company got out on september 9, 2001, and then the whole thing just kind of disappeared and went away. the company was eventually sold, but when holdren says nobody is working on this, that's not true. in 2001, episite was working on corn as a contraceptive and having a contraceptive capability in corn. these people are nuts! >> oh, yeah. absolutely. there is no question about, that but one of the things that amazes me about the holdren thing, it is right there in black and white and the man signed his name to all of this, and yet there has been almost no media attention. his nomination was announced back in december. no one did due diligence.

"the new york times" did a fawning article when they announced his name. last week, "the new york times" ran an article that -- the headline was, quote, that there was some concern about obama's national -- the man who was going to be the head of the national institute of health. the article said some scientists were concerned because even though the man he had nominated was responsible for mapping the human squee gnome, one of the greatest scientific achievements in history, he was a christian and some scientists had a problem with that, and "the new york times" dutifully reported in. glenn: here is another one, america, you haven't heard about. mark hemingway -- mark hemingway was on the streets of the rodney king riots, and he goes to jail, and in his own words from the east bay express, this is a liberal rag. he says "i met all these young radical people of color, i mean, really radical, communists and anarchists and this is like this is what i

need to be part of. i was a rowdy nationalist on april 28 and the verdicts came down on the 29th. by august, i was a communist." this guy is talking about 15 years ago he was a radical communist. he starts these programs up. he starts becoming radical on the streets, and now he is a green jobs czar. what happened to the communist thing? >> who knows? it is terrifying to think that, you know, look, we all believe that we need to make environmental progress, whatever differences we have, whether or not we believe in global warming or not, but the fact of the matter is environmental dances are own -- environmental advances are only going to be made if we take into account economic incentives and if you have a guy that is a green czar that may be dictating environmental policy that doesn't believe in free market, then disaster is going to ensue. glenn: bow to our new god, obama. back in a second. o@5 in-fightig

continues. join me at 6:00 p.m. eastern for "special report." now back to glenn. glenn: hello, america. tonight here is our hot list, some common sense solutions to the stories the mainstream media is just dropping the ball on and not doing their job. the price of oil, they say, is coming down. they say that's good news. i say not so fast.

it's coming crashing down. according to philip verlager, the guy who correctly predicted that oil would exceed $100 per barrel. now he is telling bloomberg that oil could plummet from today's price of $60 to $20 by the end of this year. well, you got a lot of oil, right? and then no demand. that's what makes the price go down. why would demand go down? no jobs to commute to means less demand. nobody buying products, no ships. as verlager says, if the recession continues and it's a warm winter, it's going to be devastating. well, honestly ask yourself, do you think this recession is over? have we hit bottom and it's turning around now? they keep telling us the earth is warming, so where does that leave us? anyone that tells you the economy is sprouting green chutes, try to figure out what their agenda is. i think they're lying.

remember their names and hold them accountable when you are broke. now, here is a way to make money. invest in california iou's. no, really, i mean that. good investment. california, which is still facing a $26 billion shortfall has paid more than $450 million iou's this month, but some major banks have stopped redeeming them for cash. apparently they don't trust california, i guess. iou holders, who now need cash are selling them to people who will earn 3.75% on the deal, assuming california can actually repay those iou's. the head of the new york trading firm, second market, who started the trading platform, says given the need for cash, he felt it was, quote, important to launch this market promptly. wait a minute. it sounds like the pre-market system is bailing people out. this is probably better than the other place where people were trying to sell their iou's, the internet.

thank you, government. you gave me an iou and hi to sell it on the internet, you know, that place where no one ever gets ripped off. in just a moment here, on wal-mart. i like wal-mart. i'm a fan of wal-mart. i shop at wal-mart, but soon, you're not just going to find a price on the tag. you are going to be able to see how green and socially responsible all of their products are. wait a minute, didn't you just do universal healthcare last week and now this? this is part of wal-mart's new plan and they're going to ask 100,000 suppliers questions like have you measured your corporate greenhouse gas emissions or do you have a process for managing social compliance at the manufacturing level? wal-mart, what are you doing? wal-mart is a private company and they can do whatever they want, but i'd like to know why they're doing it? personally, i think they see the handwriting on the wall, and it scares them. if wal-mart doesn't do this, the brown shirts in this

government, the progressives, are going to force them to do it. i mean, these people have been trying to put this company out of business for a very long time. how green a washing machine is? i mean, i really don't care. is it good? does it work? is it cheap? you won't be able to ram these warning machines down their throats. i personally think the thinking at wal-mart is the same kind of logic that this administration is using to justify negotiating with iran's president ahmadinejad. here is the country that has sworn to destroy us, just like the government has been destroying wal-mart. now hillary clinton and president obama want to sit down with him and talk and see if we can get along. we will make some concessions. yeah, don't get them too close, because they will destroy you. oh, same advice for wal-mart. don't play this game. they want to destroy you, and in the end, wal-mart, they will. all right. next story is on, oh, al

franken. i'm sorry. senator al franken. he had some hard-hitting questions for judge sotomayor when he learned she was inspired by a famous t.v. lawyer perry mason. watch. >> i'm a big fan of perry mason. i watch perry mason every week with my dad and my mom and my brother, and we would watch the clock, and when we knew it was 2 minutes to the half hour that the real murderer would stand up and confess. it amazes me that you want to become a prosecutor based on that show, because in perry mason, the prosecutor, burger, lost every week. with one exception, which we will get to later. glenn: i would like to know about the constitution. i'm fascinated. we will learn later. she did not know the name of that one case that perry mason

did not win. it was the case of the deadly verdict. oh, man. can i tell you something, minnesota? i'm about to rip rur star off the flag. other people in the media like to call me the cry baby. i have been called the town crierer because i actually care about my country and sometimes i tear up. well, i guess men don't do that, but have you heard anybody say anything about chuck schumer and what he was crying about yesterday? >> now, in 2009, there are many more role models for a young cardinal spellman student to choose from with jum sotomayor foremost among them. glenn: you know why? it's because she was talking about her love for nancy drew.

nancy drew. and that is your hot list. while we're drowning in debt, china is quietly developing the third world. >> i'm still upset about nancy drew, though. oh, you didn't hear this? big moves that5 ú

glenn: now, the media misses major connections because it doesn't see how stories are all related. we will break things down tonight in a nutshell. china's expansion into latin america in a nutshell. while they're moving to africa has been more publicized, china is also carving out a huge sphere of influence in other underdeveloped countries. let's start in brazil, south america's biggest economy. china has surpassed the united states as that country's

biggest trade partner, but that's not all. china is gobbling up hard assets like copper from chile, iron ore from br zil and zinc from peru. it is shipping busses to cuba, cars to peru and clothes to mexico. all this has catapulted taid between china and latin america from $10 billion at the turn of the millennium to $240 billion last year. unlike the u.s. which asks for more ooh transparency from its partners, china isn't so ideologically hamstrung. china has also not established a military presence in the evening john and thanks to its trillion dollar surpluses, china has become a major lender to latin america, spending tens of billions in the evening john. experts say the next two or three years could see the end of u.s. dominance in latin america, which we've had since the monroe doctrine in 1823.

that is china's expansion into latin america in a nut nutshell. >> china is the world's third largest economy but is working its way up to number one. joshua cooper ramos is here, managing director of kissinger associates and speaks mandarin and divides his time between beijing and new york city. always a pleasure to see you. >> you too, glenn. glenn: you just got back from china. this is a chart from their area of influence, their area of the world. if you show this and show the different places of their connections here. they are spreading out everywhere, and then we'll show later on they go into africa, south america, i think the entire planet, while everybody else is selling, they're buying, right? >> the thing that has allowed china to do what they have done in the last 30 years which is lift 400 million

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glenn: we're back with joshua cooper ramos, author of "age of the unthinkable. " i tell you, you have to read it because it the description of where we really are, like it or not, and you will not survive unless you think the

unthinkable. at least consider it, that possibility. >> and don't pretend like everything will just be ok. glenn: we were talking off the air about the times that we live in, that they could -- i hope to god they don't -- but they could just melt apart, and i don't think it is just one country. i think it's the whole planet. tell me about china. you've got communist rule, a strong rule. you have massive deep poverty, but they don't know any better, but on the other hand, you have got hong kong and the capitalism that is driving the other side. when those two worlds collide, what happens? >> it is a huge problem. this is a problem with political reform. how do you fix the party system so it better serves the interests of the people and it can continue to move ahead? if you're in beijing today, you're amazed by the intensity of the debate over political reform, much more intense than the united states. glenn: because we're too busy

talking about michael jackson and other things, and we're saying oh, we have seen this before, but we haven't. >> the economic problem is a huge crisis. you have to transfer an export economy into a domestic economy. that is a larger question now of what the future of the political future in china looks like. glenn: i came to the realization this week, as i was reading some more history, the soviet union did not collapse. it transformed. i think we are heeded for a transformation here in america, and americans don't see it coming, but i think we are transforming. would you say that it is a global thing that the whole world could transform? i mean, i think the underlying forces that are making the unthinkable blossom around are taking the old models of the world are not only wrong but dangerous. governments have to transform. we have a long track record around the world. glenn: how worried are you?

you split your time in china and here in new york. how worried are you about -- i mean, there's always great possibilities ahead of us, as people, if we all just stay calm and do thite thing, and we're honest with each other. how worried are you about the instability of planet earth right now? >> well, the lesson of revoluntionary eras is that they don't just destroy the old order. they create new fortunes and new historical champions, so that sense of possibility is amazing. the question is how you cure ate an environment so you get a good outcome. glenn: i said in my book, be careful of the revolution. you have the american revolution and you have the french revolution, both the seeds of the same thing -- came from the same plant, but had totally different outcomes because the people were different. >> right. we're living in a revoluntionary era. if you deny that and pretend it's not happening, you will be surprised inñ

glenn: i have to tell you that i hope you get a sense from this show -- i don't want you to take my word on anything. use your own bane and your own gut. we are living in extraordinary times and we all have personal responsibility on what we do and what role we play. if you haven't yet, i ask you that you pick up my new book "common sense, a case against an out-of-control government." it is jus