show show. they will do "elvira." >> a developing story overseas this morning explosions rocking two luxury hotels in indonesia, homicide bombers targeting two american hotels, the ritz-carlton and marriott in downtown jakarta. so far at least eight are dead, almost 50 more hurt and at least one person injured in the blasts is an american. indonesia is the largest muslim majority nation in the world. the first attack there in almost four years. megyn: the new healthcare plans on capitol hill. new numbers from the c.b.o. sake the bills would actually increase your healthcare costs, not decrease them.

take a listen to the head of that c.b.o. testifying to the senate finance committee. >> mr. chairman, in the legislation that has been reported we do not see the sort of fundamental changes that will be necessary to reduce the trajectory of federal health spending by a significant amount. on the contrary, the legislation significantly expands the federal responsibility for healthcare costs. megyn: that is news the democrats and president obama did not want to hear. good morning, i'm megyn kelly. welcome to a fry edition. one of the major goals was to bring down the cost of healthcare. care le how big a blow is this c.b.o. testimony to democrats in the white house? >> it is a pretty big blow,

rick. two things the democrats have said is cover more people and they are going to cut the costs. this testimony by the head of the c.b.o. blows the second claim out of the water saying it will give more responsibility for healthcare cost and hand it over to the federal government. nancy pelosi said the opposite saying they are going to wring out so much more savings in healthcare costs she thinks proposed taxes will be rolled back from this. but a lot of republicans are not buying it. democrats sake the c.b.o. is not giving them credit for things like preventative medicine and wellness programs. >> in the wee hours of this morning charlie rangel's committee passed a bill within the committee to do with healthcare reform. what is in that one and what are the next steps there? >> taxes are in this one, rick. almost $600 billion in new

taxes. most of it doesn't start until 2013 but the taxes kick in in 2011 to help pay for it. two other house committees are working on it it. on the senate side they want to tax healthcare benefits. they are fighting over this. max baucus says president obama doesn't like the idea of taxing healthcare benefit and says the president is making it very difficult for them to try to get a plan together so a lot of squabb squabbling on two different plans. >> caroline schively, thanks. megyn: look at these pictures of this fire, a mansion that is on fire. this thing was on the market for $6.9 million. we are told the house has more than 11,000 square feet, 10 bedrooms, seven bathrooms and now, suddenly, it is ablaze. we don't know what is behind it

but we are told it is on the intracoastal water way which makes it more difficult to get to it. one portion has collapsed. they believe it will burn to the ground. you can see that pretty much for yourselves from the pictures. vouvended by palm trees and -- surrounded by palm trees and neighboring homes and now nobody will buy it. this is a goner. moving on to other economic news, $787 billion is the price tag of the economic stimulus plan. according to vice president joe biden money that needed to be spent because the consequences are unimaginable. >> the president knows and i mow the status quo is simply not acceptable. it is totally unacceptable. and it is completely unsustainable. even if we wanted to keep it the

way we have it now, you can't do it financially. we are going to go bankrupt as a nati nation. megyn: the vice president saying the economic stimulus has saved countless jobs across america. republican critics pointing out unemployment continues to rise. >> wall street hoping to add to the gains when the markets open at the bottom of the hour. yesterday's gain of 95 points on the dow the fourth positive day for blue chip stocks. today futures are mixed. down three points at this time. the dow this week seeing the best run since march on stronger than expected earnings reports from companies like intel and i.b.m. megyn: nasa mission managers are optimistic the shuttle endeavour is not seriously damaged after foam insulation hit the shuttle during the liftoff wednesday. despite that, the agency is not taking any chances, suspending

shuttle flights until engineers understand why this happened. the crew will maneuver endeavour in a somersault before docking with the international space stations so cameras can get a look at the heat shields. somersault? that is exciting. we have a live report coming up from outer space. >> we are following another developing story from overseas, this one about the pope. pope benedict xvi has been taken to the hospital after a fall. according to officials there he slipped and broke his wrist. this happened while he was on vacation in the alps in italy. it doesn't seem to be serious and we will continue to monitor this story and bring you updates on pope benedict as they become available. megyn: back to indonesia police say two bombers attacked two american hotels. the explosions happened at the marriott and ritz-carlton in downtown jakarta. at least eight are dead, dozens more injured.

jakarta's police chief says the suspected bombers were guests at the marriott. at this point no group has claimed responsibility. joining me offense the phone is katie sergeant from singapore where there are reports at least one american is being floep for treatment. -- flown for treatment. >> this is the information we are getting from international s.o. is that at least three victims from the skrashth bombings have -- jakarta bombings have been brought here to singapore and they expect another five overnight. they accountadidn't have specif details but they say they are a mix of americans, australians and others so we don't have any specifics on how many in that group are americans, but that would indicate that there is at least one. the victims are being treated for burns and trauma injuries. no further details. megyn: no group is claiming responsibility but who do the authorities believe are the suspects? >> the first name that comes to mind when this happens in the

region is jemaah islamiyah, an al qaeda linked terrorist group which has been responsible for a number of attacks in indonesia and elsewhere in the region over the past 10 years or so including the bali bombings. but in recent months and years there have been a number of arrests of some of the leaders of the group and authorities had started to feel confident perhaps they had started to break up the group and make some inroads into putting an end to the attacks. now some terrorism experts say perhaps this is a splinter group of jemaah islamiyah that wants to keep their movement going. but again as you say, there's been no claim of responsibility and nobody is saying for certain who might have perpetrated this. megyn: were these suicide bombers, just walk in and light off bombs that they had on their bodies or how did it go down? >> there's been no specific details on that.

we have heard that some of the bombers in the marriott were guests in the hotel. the security at the hotels have been pretty good but apparently if they are guests they probably had easy access in and out of the hotel with some of the security checks but apparently not enough to stop this activity. megyn: those brands are very attractive to americans. we are waiting to find out more. >> coming up, this is the state that made history with hits healthcare plan. now that bill is coming due, the bill to pay support for it. the only state where universal healthcare where an ambitious proposal may be turning into an early warning. megyn: 40 years ago today they were on the way, the greatest voyage had human history in the darkness of space. the pictures you have seen but we have the stories you have never heard.

megyn: a show of force south of the border as the mexican government tries to break the back of one of its most brutal drug cartels. quadruple i quadrupling police officers about 100 miles west of mexico city. this is the base of operations for the cartel and it has been the scene of shocking violence. last week one of the leaders of the cartel was arrested then it responded by kidnapping 12 federal agents, torturing them to death and dumping their bodies by the side of a major

highway but the mexican government not giving up. rick: 0 years ago monday america celebrated an historic achieveme achievement. >> six, five, four, three, two, one, zero. all engines running. we have a liftoff of apollo 11. >> that is one small step for man, one unite leap for mankind. rick: neil armstrong the first man on the moon in july, 1969. our next guest you will remember where he was. craig nelson was among thousands at the boy scout jamboree. they got a special shoutout from the astronaut himself but nelson wanted to do more than commemorate it. in his book "rocket men" nelson

goes behind the scenes to reveal never before told stories from the apollo missions and those that made it possible. when this happened 40 years ago, was there any doubt that this was going to work? >> oh, there was constant doubt from everybody as they sat on the bad. the astronauts said they were pretty sure they were going to come home alive but they were only 50% sure they would touch down on the moon. >> collins, armstrong, buzz aldrin. i know you interviewed hundreds of people, what most surprised you? what did you find out about the mission that you didn't mow before? -- didn't know before? >> what astounded me is how incredibly dangerous it was not just the missions but training. neil armstrong was almost killed three times. the last time when he was practicing landing on the moon

in the lunar lander research vehicle which was like a giant iron bed and wind shear hit it and it crashed to the ground, burst into a fireball. he bailed out with 2/5 of a second to spare and when he was asked what it was like to almost die he said it is always sad when you lose a machine. rick: i was amazed a at the websites that are dedicated to prove that this moon landing was a government conspiracy. some still don't believe it happened. >> it is such a shame and i don't know why because it was such an incredible moment in american history. most of the times things that bring us together as a nation are like the assassination of john kennedy, tragedies. but this was one incredible, fantastic achievement we all did together. it took 400,000 americans to get those men to the moon and we are the most admired nation in the world at that moment.

rick: in an op-ed yesterday in the "washington post" buzz aldrin said we really shouldn't be focusing so much on getting back to the moon, that right now we should be setting our sights on mars and not just getting to mars but setting up a homestead on mars. what do you think about that? >> well, i believe that nasa needs to have backing from the american taxpayer to pursue these and i don't think they will have it until we have competition from the outside like we did in the cold warment so, either that will come politically or economically. i'm not sure which. i don't have my crystal ball clear in front of me but i'm sure it will reignite and we will be back in that business and going to mars. rick: but we are involved in the international project with so many other countries, the space station, which is being tended to right now. how do you generate competition when everybody is on board working toward the same goal with the space station? >> it is going to come out of

the blue like the last time. we thought the soviets were backward pose sants getting drunk and tevending ing tendin they have the first satellite and first man and woman in orbit and they beat the pants off of us and something like that will happen again and that will trigger our re-entry into that. rick: is there a lot of frustration within the space community that we are not any more taking those giant leaps that we did 40 years ago? >> well, they are split 50-50. a lot of people would love it if the movie "2001 space odyssey" which came out a year before apollo 11 came true and we had orbiting hotels in space and people living on the moon. but the other half is very familiar with what nasa does and frankly the more you know about what that agency does the prouder you are of it. you could almost be as proud now as 40 years ago when they sent a

man to the moon. they do remarkable things. rick: "rocket men, the epic story of the first men on the mo moon". rick: we are looking at the historic mission. fox news reporting apollo 11 one small step to our future airs tomorrow at 10:00 p.m. eastern time. megyn: this woman has interviewed presidents of the united states. says she is a top political reporter and now she claims her tv station is treating her like a second class citizen. why? and what does it are to do with miss missouri 2006? rick: is your baby memorizing things before he or she is even born? should this change the way you act while you are pregnant? new evidence on what embryos know. úb@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

rick: updating a story we brought a couple of minutes ago about a fire at a fancy home in miami beach, florida. we know the real estate market has taken a hit but is it that bad that someone might burn down a house? that is the question that investigators are no doubt going to ask. on the right side a picture from a couple of minutes ago as the flames were burning out of control. firefighters able two get a handle on it. but this house is a goner. north bay road. a castle and it is currently on the market, 10 bedrooms, 7 1/2 bathrooms, with views of the city, a dock in the back. right on the intracoastal water

way, a beautiful home that was on the market for sale, will be for sale no more. megyn: lawmakers are debating several versions of a health care bill. it may be instructive to consider one state that has universal healthcare, massachusetts. that program put in place a few years ago. how is it going? molly, is it in the commonwealth of massachusetts a huge success or is the system struggling? >> that has been the big question since the inception of this program here in massachusetts, how are the lawmakers, how is the state going to fund it? it accomplished one program there are more people signed up. less than 3% of residents here do not have health insurance compared to a national average of 15% but lawmakers are making

difficult choices. they are cutting some people out of this program. 30,000 legal tax paying immigrants are being cut by the program to save costs. the reason this group is being cut because they don't receive a matching federal funding. the state estimates it will save $130 million. the governor saying this is a program that is meant to be for all people, he would like to see the immigrants be funded so he urges the legislature to come up with a compromise to furnished the immigrant population at a lesser amount for a lesser cost and they want to see them funded and if they don't have insurance it will ultimately cost more for medical providers. >> there will be incredible costs to the system because folks will not have primary care. they will wait until had he get sicker, show up and be expensive and that will fall to the hospitals or health centers. >> very difficult scenario the state is dealing with and they

are trying to control the costs. megyn: some hospitals are complaining that the costs are too high there. what are they saying? >> one major metropolitan hospital boston medical center actually filed a lawsuit against the state this week citing financial burden. they say essentially they are not being funded to the degree they need to be to care for the poor population which is the majority of their patients, saying 51% of their patients are low income. they say they are being underfunded by the state by $181 million because they are failing to cover the cost of medicaid, the commonwealth care program and they are going to need to see the money from the state to come in at a higher degree to sustain what they are trying to accomplish. megyn: thank you, molly line. rick: we are sticking with healthcare and you don't feel well, want to feel better. who do you want to decide the treatment you get? your doctor or your government?

the story of a white house proposal that could take your personal health out of your and your doctor's hands. megyn: in the cold waters of the arctic ocean something is moving, something big. grab your children and get to shore. the blob is coming.

megyn: it is an ambitious plan with a price tag that could make you sick. more than a trillion dollars aimed at bringing healthcare to every american. there has to be some way to keep the costs down, right? according to president obama, there is. >> i proposed that we have a panel of medical experts that

are making determinations about what protocols are appropriate for what diseases. there's going to be some disagreement but if there is broad agreement that in this situation the blue pill works better than the red pill and it turns out the blue pill is half as expensive as the red pill, then we want to make sure that doctors and patients have that information available to them. then i think most patients and doctors don't want to spend money unnecessarily. megyn: but do we really want a "panel of medical experts, people we don't know, deciding what kind of treatment we should get and what we should be denied?" dr. robert goldberg is the president for the center for medicine in the public interest. good morning, doctorment >> organic, how are you. megyn: president obama makes it sound simple with the blue pill and red pill but at the end of

the day is that taking the decision away from you and your doctor? >> well, when this woman at this white house meeting asked president obama if he would want to enroll in the plan that he said everyone should enroll in, he said no. and we have asked members of congress the same thing and they have choked on it. and at the end of your break you talked about the blob and that is what we have now. we have all of these bells and whistles in the healthcare bill and we have had them in england, canada and germany and every other country the last 20 years and they have had that kind of rationing. their costs keep going up and here is why. if you make something free, and you have the government ration, all you do is limit people's access and make it for free and the costs keep going up and people get sicker. so, the basic problem is -- and the state of massachusetts is

finding that out -- the hard choices are not being made at the doctor-patient level where they should be made. megyn: you mentioned germany because the research showed that that is another country that has this sort of omnipotent board that decides what is cost effective and what is not. and they say in the past 12 months there the 15 medical products and services that have cleared the process, stamped ok, cost effective, spent an average of 35 months under review. so, before people could get access it was 35 months of bureaucrats deciding whether the blue pill or red pill was most effective. >> and it gets worse. i don't know if you have seen the movie "bruno" but there is a scene where sasha invites paula abdul to be interviewed on chairs made out of mexican apsd that is what this does.

it tries to balance the budget, the expansion of the new entitlement on the backs of people. it tells doctors what it can and cannot practice. tells them that they have to practice with 25% less pay or else. it redefines quality according to the standards of taco bell, not according to the standards of the human genome and personalized medicine. and what happens is that again, by making something free and not starting from what we basically need, which is primary care that is delivered effectively between the doctor and patient and making everything free like it is a health spa, in trying to ration at most expensive things you increase waiting times and restrict access to cutting edge treatments, you make people sicker. and that drives the cost of care up. so, no wonder the budget is a trillion dollars before we started program. megyn: but everybody talks about, both democrats and

republicans, how the current system, although most people are happy with it, is broken, that there are all of these cost inefficiencies and they always cite medicare and medicaid saying more cost inefficiencies can be squeezed out and we are flushing billions down the toilet in not trying to squeeze the most efficiencies out of them. why not have a board to say here is what we recommend. i will say before i get the answer the senate panel that is looking into this wants it to be mandatory. but not so in the house. let's put the mandatory thing to the side and say how about an advisory board to squeeze costs out? >> well, we at my center brought over the head of the same kind of board in england. we had a discussion with him and other people that do those kinds of things here in the united states. and he told us that their system

is broken. why is it broken? because they are using one size fits all approaches to care when we really need to use science based upon individualized medicine. again, what they have done is come up with better models of rationing, but that doesn't control the cost of care. and it doesn't make care more efficient, it doesn't reduce differences in how patient a is treated compared to patient b. here in the united states we have been having that's boards for 20 or 30 years. the fact of the matter is if you make something free, people are going to use it more. and the other part or other fact is dr. rollins who runs the board in england and i agree that as people get healthier and wealthier and that is part of the blessings of living in a capitalist society, they demand more for care. so the solution really is partly to say, look, let's figure out what the basic level of care

government ought to provide all people and let the private sector figure out how to deliver the rest of the care more efficiently. let's not create this 24-7 spa for every american and then try to ration care and throw people out in the streets. megyn: thank you for joining us with your insight. i want to point out to our viewers one of the senators on that senate committee that is seeking to make these binding resolutions if you will on what is cost efficient between you and your doctor, bernie sanders, is my guest at 10:15. rick: you worked bruno into the healthcare debate. megyn: i have not seen it but that was impressive. rick: nasa looking at the space shuttle endeavour's heat shields. foam peeled off the tank during liftoff. while mission managers say they don't believe it caused major

damage, future launches have been suspended while they check it out. chris guttierrez is live in dallas. how big an issue is this? >> we don't know yet but nasa says they will not launch another shuttle until the engineers have an opportunity to look at the foam loss in that particular area. it is surprising because we typically don't see foam loss in the area we are talking about, the inner tank area up in here. strips of foam peeled off and struck the belly of the orbiter. it is surprising to nasa because they typically don't see it there so they want to reexamine the process of the adhesive they use to not only put the foam on but the process of bonding it to the primer of the fuel tank. that will be tests undergoing right now in houston. rick: is there any talk there might need to be repairs done while endeavour is up in space so that upon re-entry they have

this situation solved? >> right now the team of engineers down in houston feel that the integrity of the heat shield will not be compromised during re-entry so they are not even talking about possible repairs in space. there are obviously processes to go through if they need to do that. but the area that was struck by that debris that came off is the chine, a black area here around what engineers it houston are telling me is that they feel it was really just scuff marks, pulling some of the paint off the chine area. rick: thank you, chris. for the latest developments you can go to the live shots page on the fox news website which allows you to follow breaking news as our reporters, producers and camera crews file reports live on location. if you can't catch everything on air or you want to know more about the stories we report on you, check them out at fox fox

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break in somebody who is in their 80's is a matter of concern, so we are watching the situation. so far the word is that he is ok but for that broken wrist. as you see, he will be in a cast for about a month. rick: another horror story from a cruise ship, a murder on board this time. police arresting a man accused of murdering his wife on a carnival cruise to mexico. cops believe they had a fight during the last leg of a five-knit crews to baja, california. about 2,000 passengers were on board the ship. one said they knew something was going on but weren't sure what it was. >> it happened in cabin 24 and we were in room two. we walked outside and saw eight to 10 people in white shirts, security and medics. rick: the ship returned home to

dock thursday. of megyn: a new study says babies can remember what happened in the womb. my baby is going to come out reciting facts about healthcare reform and singing that cow song that we play. this study from the netherlands, look at this video they can do, 3-d ultrasound video. the study builds on evidence that babies as young as 30 weeks in the womb already have short-term memory. dr. manny alvarez from hackensack medical university, they say babies that are 30 weeks in the womb have short-term memory so they ran this study where they try to jar the babies with sound and do it over and over and the baby would be surprised the first time but

by the 10th time it wouldn't be surprised and they figure out he is remembering. how does this help expecting parents? >> i think this is a very good study and positive study because we need tools. sometimes we are limited, we don't have enough tools to assess the well-being of babies in the womb. we have bio fphysical profiles, this is what i do in ultrasound, the movement, tone and position of babies. but this is something about brain development and this is very important because it is now showing us clearly that as the brain begins to develop when you get to 30 weeks these babies are remembering things for 10 minutes. as you get closer to 34 weeks they are remembering things for four hours. so this could have a tremendous impact -- megyn: four weeks they said. >> yes, they remember things a long time. now this is very important because now it can use perhaps some of these tools to begin to understand the cognitive development of children. there are some pregnancies that are at risk and sometimes we

wonder whether there is brain damage that has occurred this. is perhaps a good way to assess the brain development and neurological assessment. unborn child and tells you a lot about kids already know their surroundings in the womb. parent, things like that. megyn: if i have a fan of barry manilow, do i play a little barry now and when he is born i pop in some barry and the child is set? >> there is a lot of studies that have been published looking at the sound of music especially in the alert palatter part of p for the influence on the cognitive development and the interest the child has and the learning process. i think that you can make your unborn child smarter and appreciate a lot of things if you indeed get into the whole format of playing music to him and her, talking to the baby,

fathers i tell fathers to go on the belly and talk to the child on a regular basis. i think that these bonds in the long term are going to play out because we are seeing already in the womb babies are listening and they are remembering. megyn: but i don't get that because this baby gets two hours solid of news a day sitting here on the set. so honestly why do i need to talk to my baby. he hears me all day. he can hear my husband. does my husband have to get down to the belly and talk? >> you have to bring the sound a little closer and sometimes a male voice penetrates the sound bearer through the womb more clear than say a high-pitched voice. so i encourage fathers to get involved but that is a wonderful thing to start talking to the baby especially at the end of the pregnancy. megyn: all right. i mean, listen, i already love my baby but i'm just saying i

think he hears my voice. >> you have to get the bonding there. megyn: i don't see i could help if i read dr. seuss. he is way beyond that. he is learning about terrorist attacks and barack obama and healthcare. how is dr. seuss going to help him? >> you have to bring different kinds of stories at home. megyn: dr. manny, a pleasure as always. >> thank you. rick: i talked to both of my girls and they still don't listen to me. megyn: sorry. rick: when we come back, terrorist attacking two american hotels in indonesia. eight dead and dozens more injured. most of the victims are foreigners including at least one american. we will have an update. megyn: it could be the makings of a tv movie. a mysterious goo off the alaskan coast. what is it? where has it come from and where is it headed? .

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[captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> what happened? >> you have to come now. >> tell us what happened. >> this thing killed the doctor. >> what was it? >> it was kind of like a mass that keeps getting bigger and bigger. megyn: what show is better than this one? that is from our producers. it is dark, gooey, and a lot of it floating off the alaskan coast. no one is really sure what it is. hunter's first noticed the mystery substance last week. despite its greasy texture, the coast guard says that it is not oil-based. look at this. it is not hazardous.

one officer said, its mills natural. by the way, it is likely alive. jelly fish and sea birds are getting caught up in this sticky blob and residents say that they have never seen anything like it. what is it? "america's newsroom" is investigating. we will bring you details of our investigation just as soon as we have them. rick: california is the only state that requires that baby furniture gets sprayed with a fire retardant before they are sold in stores. now some groups are saying that this retardants parade is actually filled with toxic chemicals and they want the law changed. what kind of baby furniture are we talking about? >> good morning. we are talking about everything. cribs, high chairs, strollers, changing tables, you name it. the u.s. consumer product safety

commission put out a study last year that said the chemicals in this fire retardant are highly toxic and can cause horrible things like cancer, birth defects, learning disabilities. these are the same chemicals that the u.s. government banned 30 years ago from children's sleepwear. now, a number of groups like friends of the earth and even the california professional firefighters association and a number of health organizations have come together to back a bill in sacramento that would exempt these baby products from being treated with these chemicals rick: the governor of california does not like this bill, right? >> his office will not come out and say it is officially opposed to the bill. there is a bureau called the bureau of home furnishings that is under the umbrella of the schwarzenegger administration. it is on the record opposing this bill. some people say that perhaps they are influenced by high- priced lobbyists paid for by the

big chemical companies. in any case, this bureau of home furnishings has been directed by the governor's office to take a look at the 1975 law calling for baby products to be sprayed with his fire retardant. they are also retesting all of the products to see if it fact, they are flammable. rick: thank you for the update. megyn: live, local, lake breaking, and looking good. maybe too good. this local the reporter claims that she is the victim of age and sex discrimination. does she actually have a case or is all fair in love and ratings? rick: we're live in our nation's capital. the president's push for health- care reform, the mission of the moment in washington. we will talk with someone who supports health-care reform. how bernie sanders plans to get his democratic colleagues on

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megyn: disturbing update on the bombing in jakarta, i indonesia. we're just learning that at least eight americans have been wounded by the blast, according to a u.s. official. look at this surveillance tape. it has just gotten into fox news. it shows the explosion as it happens inside. the targets, j.w. marriott and ritz-carlton hotels in jakarta. the death toll is up to date. 50 more injured. that includes eight americans injured. windows blown out, debris scattered everywhere. police say that to bombers check in as guests before detonating their explosives. secretary of state hillary clinton already condemning the attack. it is the first terrorist strike in nearly four years for indonesia, the world's most populous muslim nation.

as we get more on that, we will bring it to you. in the meantime, there is another alert we have. we're awaiting the next phase in the president's phase in overhauling health care. we're looking live on capitol hill as the house energy and commerce committee is gearing up for a big day right now. it is set to start any minute, marking up a bill titled america as affordable health choices act. or is it? we're awaiting action from congress in a brand new hour of "america's newsroom." healthcare is moving ahead at breakneck speed. rick: good morning, everybody. the burning question is how to pay for this proposal. carl cameron is live on the hill. good morning, carl. talk about the reaction on capitol hill to the congressional budget office. this is the non-partisan office that takes a look at all the numbers and tries to make sense of them.

>> it is a total migraine for everyone involved. republicans referred to it as a big i told you so. you were showing pictures a minute ago of the house energy and commerce committee. that means they are starting on an actual piece of legislation. it really illustrates the problem. that particular committee has 39 democratic members. 10 of them are conservative moderate blue dog democrats. that is enough for them to join with the republicans and block health care legislation on the principle that it is just way too expensive. the cbo said that it will increase the concerned about rising taxes. it could probably be paid for by

cost savings, according to the administration. the ways and means committee are working today. their bill would contain about $60 billion worth of tax increases in order to pay for health care. there is tremendous concern with republicans, but particularly as the clock ticks, the concern is among democrats. rick: the president has made this very clear he wants to see some sort of agreement on this before lawmakers go on their break in early august. is that going to happen? is there any way that is going to happen? >> it would be virtually impossible, as of the situation right now, to be a bipartisan deal. here's the problem. in the remaining two and a half weeks before the august break, the u.s. senate has to dedicate and leased to -- a least a week to the debate and vote for sonia

sotomayor confirmation process. the house has six of those types of committee right now meeting across in washington. it is a big workload. never mind the work. the political divisions over the cost of this, the idea of a government auction is not and pressing democrats entirely. -- is not impressing democrats entirely. rick: carl cameron, thank you very much. megyn: health care reform is marching on in the house. it is not necessarily a short passage, but what can we expect in the senate? will senators signed on for the huge tax hike proposed by house democrats and how will they deal with this new report at the congressional budget office? joining us now from washington

is vermont center bernie sanders. he is a member of the senate health committee. he is an independent. good morning, senator. >> good morning. megyn: this congressional budget office report says that costs are going in the wrong direction. this is the director of the cbo testifying before congress about the costs. take a listen. >> no, mr. chairman. in the legislation that has been reported, we do not see the sort of fundamental changes that would be necessary to reduce the trajectory of federal health spending by a significant amount. on the contrary, the legislation significantly expands the federal responsibility for health care costs. megyn: the washington post" calls that a devastating assessment for the democrats who want to overhaul health care. how do you respond, sir? >> i will respond in a couple of ways. i think the cbo does not

necessarily and cannot take into its calculations of the role of disease prevention. we spend a huge amount of money treating chronic disease. we do not do a good job in keeping people healthy. the effort in congress so far is to do that. it is hard to calculate what that will be. we have a disaster in terms of primary health care. we have 60 million americans who have no doctor. if they end up in the a emergency room or an hospital much sicker than they should have been, this legislation puts a great deal of emphasis on putting doctors out into primary care. it is hard to calculate what that will mean in the future. the last point that i would make in terms of the cbo, the director makes a point. we spend twice as much as any other country on earth in terms of per capita cost of health care. why is that? why do the french in general have a better system than we do,

spending half of what we do? the answer is, they have a single payer medicare program for all. it eliminates, in our country, some $400 billion in waste and inefficiencies in bureaucracy that occur when we have 1300 private health insurers, thousands of different health care companies. megyn: just for now, we are talking about one universal health care system that is being proposed -- many people think that is the way the president wants to take us. despite your criticism of the cbo, they have said -- this is their job, to crunch the numbers they say that the plan is going to cost about $1 trillion. they say not only is it going to not help the skyrocketing costs, but it is going to make them worse. suggesting that the financial crisis we're in right now is going to be worsened by all of

these plans that the democrats are proposing on capitol hill. >> the nature of the cbo is not -- it is very difficult. if we allow people to go to the doctor before they get very sick and end up in the hospital, could you make a prediction what kind of savings that could incur? the second point that we have to address is, what happens if we do nothing and we continue the disaster by which 46 million americans have no health insurance and costs go up 10% every year? what costs -- was studies tell us is that the average american will pay double what he or she is paying today. it is not sustainable. megyn: i think there is some debate on those numbers, senator. that is the number from the administration. that includes illegal immigrants. it also includes people who have just chosen not to insure themselves.

i want to get to this point before we run out of time. it is a tax hike that has been proposed by the house that would now place the high earners and the wealthy in a tax bracket that is astronomical. we're talking about people in new york city who will be facing almost 60% of their income. >> those maybe the people at goldman sacks -- megyn: it is small business owners. do not take my word for it. take steve forbes word for it. >> the bottom line is, if you look at what is going on right now, our friends in wall street who caused the most significant financial crisis since the great depression are now being paid $700,000 a year after day are being bailed out -- megyn: it is easy to blame the walz tried -- the wall street fat cats, but it includes small

business owners who get taxed as individuals. they are saying that jobs are going to go away. >> what i'm saying is that we do not -- if we do not do something, you were going to see a doubling of health-care costs, which will be destructive to small businesses. we have to do something. megyn: now we're on the same page about something. let's accept that something must be done. the question is whether -- let me finish my question. the question is whether more taxes in a recession, in particular on the people who create jobs, is the answer. >> if you do not do anything about health care, that will be destructive, not only to people, but the economy as well. i am not going to raise taxes on the middle class or working families. my friends on wall street can afford that. megyn: at what point do you draw the line? at 70% ok with you? >> i do not stay up nights

worrying for our friends on wall street, as some people may. megyn: where do you draw the line? >> again, bushel lower taxes -- megyn: answer my question i. >> next time, we can talk about a fair tax system. megyn: you will have to vote on this. if this passes in the house, he will have to vote on it in the senate. >> it is certainly ok for me to tell my friends on wall street who just got a bonus of $600,000 that they are going to pay more in taxes of that we lower health-care costs. megyn: we want our viewers to believe that it is is going to be wall street -- >> if we do nothing right now, the country will be in serious trouble. megyn: you will not answer the question about how much is too much. >> i will answer the question.

i will not ask the bottom 50% to pay more. megyn: i guess 60% is ok now. you will not answer one way or the other, so i can only assume that the answer is yes. center bernie sanders, thank you for coming on. i appreciate you being here. rick: coming up after a quick break, they have been sprayed with water cannons, dragged away by police in riot gear, and now people disputing iran's presidential election coming under a new type of fire. what government troops unleashed on a prayer service. megyn: now, could a different member of the jackson family be taking on the mother's role? rick: it has claws over half a

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megyn: fox news alert and good news. pope benedict xvi has just left the italian hospital in which she was staying. he broke his wrist while in the alps. let's take a listen if we can hear anybody saying anything. como esta? how are you? you can see that he is walking under his own power. he is looking pretty good. pretty good for an 82-year-old guy.

rick: he is walking under a higher power. megyn: good point. rick: and groundbreaking discovery from the land before time. scientists uncovering entirely new dinosaur, coined the reaper lizard. henne 9 inch clause, it was 13 feet long. we are joined by a regional paleontologists working for the utah bureau of land management. what would it have looked like? >> this is a fantastic creatures. imagine our images of a giant sloth and add 2 ladies 9 inch clause and this beaked face. it is a complete the unusual looking dinosaur. rick: you can see the tiny head, but the long neck and the body. it looks a bit like a tyrannosaurus rex. i understand the work -- that they were related, right? >> that is right. look at it.

you give it a pot belly and a tiny little head. it looks like something out of a dr. seuss book. it is truly a bizarre creature. it has only been known from asia before down. we have a couple of different specimens in utah and northern arizona. it is a fantastic creatures. it is telling us all different types of things about dinosaurs. it was found in sediments that used to be out in an inland sea. it was out -- was found out in the ocean. it probably could not swim very well. what researchers are suggesting is that the thing at their rested out there or died and floated out there. it is the first dinosaur ever found out in marine sediments like this. rick: it was not a meat eater. apparently, it was a vegetarian, right? >> that is true.

it was a vegetarian. that is the other thing the animal is telling us. some of these carnivorous dinosaurs right in their family tree had included plant eating dinosaurs. it is making a real look at how these dinosaurs evolved. they are not just these big toothy beasts. we are learning a lot of new things from this. rick: there have been a bunch of discoveries lately of new dinosaurs not only here in this country, but other parts of the world as well. are we experiencing a bit of a renaissance here in your line of work? >> we are in probably the biggest renaissance of dinosaurs since they were first described in the late 1800's. we're absolutely right in the middle of it. we are finally learning where to look at where we find them. we're looking at new places in the world. we have learned enough about them where we really know where to look for dinosaurs. you used to throw a shovel in

the ground, but now we have a really good idea. researchers in southern utah are looking at places where people have looked before. right now, you talk, china, argentina -- these are the hot spots. i think there are a lot more coming. really unusual dinosaurs. rick: come back to talk to us next time you make a big discovery. good to talk to you, sir. >> always a pleasure. megyn: house speaker nancy pelosi wants a vote on the tax raising health care bill before a recess in august. can she actually get the bill passed? and republican and congressman joins us with the cold hard facts. rick: who will feel the role of mother to michael jackson's three children? michael jackson wanted his mother to fill that role. does another jackson have other plans? news about janet jackson when we

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megyn: more drama in the aftermath of michael jackson's death. the king of pop wanted his mother to look over his three children. according to a new report, sister janet jackson has taken on a maternal role in the lives of her late brother's children. she has been there rock for these past few weeks. the loss angeles coroner's office changing the deadline on those autopsy results. it could be another two weeks before a full report is released. rick: a fox news alert now. we're hearing from president obama on the bombings in jakarta that took place at two american

hotels in the early hours in which eight americans were injured. president obama saying that he is outraged by those attacks and that the united states stands ready to help the government of indonesia. the president strongly condemned the bombings as we begin to learn more about this. no group has stepped forward to claim responsibility for these bombings that were almost simultaneous this morning. megyn: unbelievable situation out there. in the meantime, the woes of getting older. giving one -- hitting one female news anchor heart. she says that her sexist bosses made her life miserable. these women are in "kelly's court." rick: it is a groups committed to supporting terrorists. pushing for the creation of an islamic empire.

why this radical organization will be right here on u.s. soil in just two days. we will tell you about that coming up. if we don't act, medical bills will wipe out their savings. if we don't act, she'll be denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition. and he won't get the chemotherapy he needs. if we don't act, health care costs will rise 70%. and he'll have to cut benefits for his employees. but we can act. the president and congress have a plan to lower your costs

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rick: we have seen how some house democrats want to pay health care reform by imposing a surtax on the wealthiest families in this country. we have heard from senator what they expect when they consider the over all. we're going to stick with house republican about some of these big issues to pay for expanded health care coverage he joins us now from the capital. good morning to you, sir. you were a member of the health subcommittee. in the early hours of this morning, we saw the ways and means committee passed a health plan. just while we were getting ready to talk to do, the house education and labor committee has voted and approved a health- care plan.

are republicans in congress going to be able to slow this thing down? >> only if that is what the american people want. you are now seeing the most sweeping piece of legislation to face this country in at least two decades, maybe longer, be allowed less than 24 hours markup. less than one day of markup in the two of the three committees that go before. the house labor committee fix -- finished this morning at 6:00. i do not think we're letting the american people know what is in this bill. they will stop this bill down the throats of the american people if people let them. rick: it seems like there's an awful lot of voting going on when americans are at home asleep. let's talk about a plan that you propose. you have, with a plan that in -- that is called the improve health care for all americans act. how do you pay for that? >> most of it would be paid for with cost savings. we're going to reform health

care from the bottom up and we will only change things in health care that need to be changed. 83% of americans who have health care are happy with their healthcare. my bill, unlike the democrats' bill lets americans keep the plan that they want. we have to deal with the rest of the american people, which we didn't do when we were in the majority. we will have the ability to cover the difference for people who do not have health care right now, which is what we're really worried about. rick: you talk about a tax credit that you mentioned. $2,500 for individuals, $5,000 per family. i look at what exactly it costs for health insurance for individuals, say a family of four. the costs are a lot more than the tax credit that your plan offers.

the annual premium for individuals, $4,700. the average cost for a family of four, $12,700. there is a big gap between what it actually costs and what your plan offers. how are people supposed to make up that difference? >> grade question. the figures you have are not the figures that i have. the figures that i have is that the costs are an average $2,600. i do not think it is as high as the number you just gave. this is the key to the whole problem. the president and others have said that the rate of the increase in health-care spending is unsustainable. why is that cost so high? the answer is, there is no health care marketplace. you and i cannot exact savings by shopping in the market for health care insurance like we do for ottawa insurance, homeowners' insurance, renters insurance, or life insurance.

the tax code says that if you and i buy health care, we have to pay 1/3 more. we have to pay with it with after-tax dollars. my bill fixes that. every american would be able to use before tax dollars to buy their health care plan. the health insurance companies would have to sell to all of us. right now, they just have to sell to our bosses. our bosses do not know what we are consuming. we have no downward pressure on cost right now. rick: i am struck by the number -- there seems to be republicans. everybody seems to think that's something needs to be done to reform health care. is there really a way to do it -- honestly, without raising taxes? >> to be honest, nobody knows the answer to that question, but we are spending a fortune in hospital emergency rooms where we pay for free health care for

everyone in america who cannot pay for it. why not have it happen by giving them their own money and letting them buy a policy of their choice? when they buy policy of their choice, they can demand a policy that fits within their budget and will force the insurance companies to compete. right now, health insurance companies do not have to compete for your business or my business because we cannot buy health care in the current system. rick: very interesting point and certainly something that we will be watching very closely. we appreciate your time, asserted >> thank you. megyn: a second person dead after an accident during preparations for a madonna concert. she was set for a 5-so series called a the "sticky and sweet tour." a crane collapsed while hoisting

a massive steel truss on stage. that is used to hang lights and speakers. one man was killed instantly. the second victim died later from his injuries. at least one concert has been canceled. madonna says that she is devastated by the loss of life. rick: a near-death experience for one of hollywood's favorite. actor jim caviezel thrown from his motorcycle. he played jesus in mel gibson's "passion of the christ." he only suffered minor cuts and bruises. officials say that they have no idea what possessed this man to throw his bicycle in the way of his motorcycle. megyn: huge trauma unfolding on capitol hill. democrats have added sweeping hate crimes legislation to a defense authorization bill. this is one of those things where they have a bill that they need to get yes votes for and

they stick something controversial on the back. some are not thrilled about this. what happened? >> as you know, it is -- people have been trying to pass this through for a long time. the senate attached it to their defense bill. it is an amendment attached to an amendment which makes everybody crazy because it is -- the amendment is attached to is the f-22. the hate crimes prevention act, the senate says that they hold hate crimes and abhorrent. they let it go through. it expands the -- -- expands the federal definition of hate crimes. like i said before, it is attached to something completely different, which is, do we continue to fund the fund thef- 22, which secretary gates is saying, absolutely not. we need our money for the troops

on the ground in afghanistan. megyn: it is is a done deal? this is pass easily? -- does this pass easily? >> not at all. the house is very upset no. did they pass their own stand-alone bill. they probably want to continue it as a stand-alone bill. we have to see what happens with the argument of the f-22. if that gets shot down, we are not going to see the hate crimes bill attached to that go through either. megyn: that is the way business is done in washington. we watched them from outside the beltway. it is nothing new inside the beltway. thank you so much. rick: fox news alert out of chicago now. five ambulances called to the scene of a factory explosion that took place this morning in the west side hombolt park neighborhood. the fire department says it may have been a chemical incident.

there may be one or two victims inside the factory right now. an meems plan one and hazmat team have been responded -- have been called in to respond. according to scanner reports, there might have been some kind of an explosion that happened inside the factory involving sulfuric acid. we will keep an eye on this and give you more information as we get it. megyn: a controversial islamic group is ready to hold its first conference on u.s. soil. their conference in chicago is entitled "the fall of capitalism and the rise of islam." they say that the real agenda is to promote violence. rick: coming up, they were the devoted parents of 17 children, most of them adopted. many of them with special needs.

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megyn: on the docket today, trying to turn back the clock with a hot young new bunny. a 14-year veteran reporter is suing wtic news in hartford, conn. citing sex and age discrimination. she is accusing a the director of favoring younger, more attractive journalists. sarah french, miss missouri 2006, the new anchor. the plaintiff claims that aging female journalists are being replaced with fresh faces right out of college bridge she wants the courts to do something about it. does she actually have a case? let's ask our panel. good morning, panel. all right.

i am against replacing aging anchors. let's go right out and say that. not every allegation makes a real case. do we have reason to believe here that this may be a bit of winding as opposed to a real legal dispute? >> i have written a whole book about sex discrimination and a whole chapter on age discrimination. she really has some problems. i will tell you a couple of them. in her complaint, she alleges very frivolous things. she was not able to ride in a car at a parade that the station put on. her segment was bumped 30 minutes. so, a lot of frivolous complaints. the other thing that is really going to hurt her in this case is that they were negotiating her contract. they were not firing her. they were going to give her a brand new contract and the negotiations had just started. megyn: i guess it appears to be

a bit questionable. who knows what they were offering her in the contract negotiations. she has a long list of complaints like she was not in the stations promotions. the young reporter got to ride in the parade in the company car at the st. patrick's day parade and she had to walk alongside. you all of these allegations taken together make a lawsuit? >> they look a little bit alike. actually, she does not have a slam dunk or did the law is on her side because title 7, which is the age discrimination act prevents you from being kicked to the curb just for putting another candle on your birthday cake. in a recent ruling in 2008, the supreme court said that the burden is on the employer to prove that they had a defense to a claim of this type, not on the plaintiff. >> you do not even get to that

point where the employer has to defend themselves if the plaintiff cannot show a negative impact. here, she had a job. she was negotiating for a new contract. it was not like they're working hard to occur. -- kicking her to the curb. megyn: she is not in a protected class when it comes to age. is it discrimination if ever -- if an employer and replaces a 38-year-old with a 31-year-old? you are not in a protected class. >> it is crazy that you are deemed old and in it -- in a protected class when you turn 40 -- megyn: really? >> you are not legally in that protected class if you are 39. i come from this from the standpoint of -- i love the lawsuits. i am looking at the claim and the complaint and i'm not just saying that the lies on her side.

megyn: and she was apparently replacing another morning anchor. the older anchor says that she has nothing against this woman, but she has questions. she claims that there was a demotion because of the day younger anchor. in addition to her age discrimination, she has a hostile work discrimination -- and hostile work environment claim. could those things give rise to a legitimate claim here? >> she very smartly included everything but the kitchen sink in her complaint. it is also based on a hostile work environment. when you take all this together, it does legitimized -- megyn: what is the basis of a hostile work environment? >> when you have mail employees saying this is going to be big boob friday, those kinds of

things create a hostile work environment. >> i am glad that you had to say that comment. i did not want that to come out of my mouth. she is right. if there are witnesses to those comments and the witnesses will testify on her behalf saying, we think -- what she just said, then she has a better case. megyn: really? one comment -- >> it would have to be a pervasive environment to make a hostile work environment. looking at from an objective point of view, was this woman too fragile or was she bothered by this? megyn: what about the fact that news rooms tend to be -- you can hear some colorful language in newsrooms. he could hear some inappropriate comments. it is actually every industry.

does she need to have a thicker skin? >> you know, she might need to have thicker skin, but part of what makes news is, you have to be smart. it is not just about her looks. she says that she has the experience. do not discriminate based on what i look like. there is no beauty discrimination act. megyn: she does alleged that for the first time, she was given a negative review and she had always had positive reviews. thank you so much for your insights on this. one final word for our viewers, big breasts friday is not an acceptable work fame. by itself, it does not give rise to a lawsuit. right now, it sounds week. the bottom line is, employers can not put them out to pasture simply because of their age, nor can reporters blame every workplace a decision on their age or sex.

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failroad, has been suspended over allegations of allowing a passenger to drive a double decker diesel train. another passenger reported seeing somebody other than the operator in the cab during the trip. no injuries were reported, nothing happened, but officials say they are taking the investigation seriously because the technically do not want the passengers to drive the train. rick: taxing on the job is causing a pain in the neck for a busload of people. this driver sending messages behind the wheel. moments later, he slammed on the brakes, sending everyone flying forward. there are strict rules against testing, and drivers will be suspended if they violate the

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