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czar. the latter is responsible for solving a problem. but how much power do czars have? hello, welcome back. i'm julie banderas. >> welcome to a brand-new hour. right now two astronauts in the space shuttle endeavor are in the middle of a scheduled repair on the international space station, way up there in space. it affects our jobs. they are helping attach a platform for scientists experiments. >> five people have been found dead in two tennessee homes this morning. now the tennessee bureau of investigation says a suspect is in custody. a forensic crime scene is on the way to goer evidence. >> there are mother details coming in on the killings of bird and melanie, the florida
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couple who adopted 16 children. they have eight suspects in custody and the case is growing more complex by the hour. what connects the police and the suspect. >> walter cronkite was once called the most trusted man in america. he died at the age of 92 and brought some of the most momentous events of the 20th century into his viewers' homes. today former colleagues and heads of state are remembering the iconic newsman. laura ingle is live in our news room with those stories. hi there. >> cronkite's family members say they are very touched with the outpouring of condolences that have been coming in. i spoke with his son, chip, a short while ago. he told me that while losing his father has been very difficult, of course, the kind comments have made it a little easier. he died last night of cerebral vascular disease and three days before the 40th anniversary
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of the moon landing, which he anchored live on tv for 24 hours, e claiming oh, boy, when neil armstrong set the first foot on the moon. he has long been considered a leading authority on the american manned space program and has an asteroid named after him called 6318 cronkite. he anchored many dark moments in american history and the first to break this devastating news to the nation. >> from dallas, texas, the flash apparently official, president kennedy died at 1:00 p.m. central standard time. 2:00 o'clock eastern standard time. some 38 minutes ago. >> touching moment. past presidents are remembering him today. former president george hw bush called him a pioneer in television. president obama referred to his integrity borne from growing up in the heartland of america. bob schaefer relived some of his fond moments of working with
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walter cronkite. >> walter loved the news. he had a child-like curiousity, which i found is a trait that all good reporters share. >> other former cbs colleagues have been fondly remembering cronkite with interesting tidbits about him, including the fact that he was a big fan of music. and the grateful dead. cbs will have is a large memorial in a few weeks and private memorials will be held this week here in new york. his son tells me the drummer of the grateful dead will attend. >> thank you very much. >> we'll be talking with morton dean, former cbs anchor man, in a few minutes and we'll have his recalling walter cronkite. >> conference being held this weekend in mississippi. only about half of the governors bothered to show up and boy, do
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most of them have budget problems. the california $26 billion budget short fall. one governor attending the conference, democrat governor from west virginia. thank you for joining us on this afternoon on the fox news channeling. >> thanks for having me. >> you got so many budget problems, that's the thing everyone is talking about there? >> it's a top ticket. we all have challenges and in west virginia, we've been very blessed. but we're still going to be challenged, as you know. we're talking about that. we just come out of a health care meeting, looking at what's going on in congress. talking about cap and trade, our energy and what it does to us state by state. also what happens after the stimulus money runs out in 2011. we're looking and trying to work together collectively in a bipartisan effort. we do that and do it well. about half the governors were
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unable to come because of budget concerns. >> you talked about the health care meeting. what did you say in there? are you scared? they talked about a trillion dollars being added on over the next decade. >> the only thing i can say is that selectively, we know everyone's heart is in the right place and we believe that every working person, every american has the fundamental right to health care. we just can't as governors take any more unfunded mandates. we're facing challenges far and beyond the stimulus package. it's been calculated $200 billion, plus we haven't calculated what we are responsible for for opec, which is our commitment that we have to all the retirees of our state. so we're asking congress to be very, very vigilant about what you do and any unfunded mandates is going to be very difficult and a hardship on every state. >> that's a good state. what about those? what does it mean to you as a governor if washington tells you what to do and you can't pay for it?
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>> i'm hoping that calmer heads will prevail. we can't take that from the standpoint of if someone says this is yours -- each one of us collectively and individually are doing things. give us that flexibility and by giving thaws flexibility, we can show you how we can be much more effective and efficient. if one size fits you will and you throw it to us to the point of where we have to pick up $100 billion of a short fall, that's going to be a tremendous challenge and almost unbelievable hurdle. >> we look at the numbers now in the last three months, the state revenue across the countries dropped 12% in 45 states, down 20% just in two months from last year, april and may. i guess the final question is, how do you think we can get out of this one? >> the bottom line, every state will have to do adjustments. we'll have to make correction. there is no doubt about it. the federal government has to be our partner. they have to look at basically state by state.
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our good friend from california are having unbelievable challenges. my sister state right across the river in ohio, my good friend, making some adjustments that he's not comfortable with, but he's willing to make them. >> he wants to put slot machines like vegas in ohio. >> well, he's doing whatever it take, he thinks, in order for him to be able to meet the needs of his citizens without continuing to cut services or raise taxes. we're all fighting that. we've got to be competitive. cap and trade is extremely important to all of us. if we're out of the productive end where we can't compete world wide, then we'll be more hardship as far as unemployment. it's very careful, the balance. >> it seems like a cycle. they always say we're going to get out of this and we will, just it's a matter of when and how do the states deal with it. thank you for joining us. and more meetings tomorrow. >> thank you. >> all right. nelson mandela asking people
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around the world to help celebrate his birthday by doing good deeds. the antiapartheid icon turning 91 years old today. celebrating with family and friends in south africa. he issue add call to service as part of the first annual mandela day. people are asked to do 67 minutes of community service today. that's one minute for each of the 67 years mandela fought apartheid. pretty cool. >> the world's oldest man, one of the last remaining veterans of world war one has died. henry he willingham was 113 years old. he passed away in a nursing home in england. he was born in 1896. he joined the royal naval air service when he was only 15 years old. he already had two explanations for his longevity. he said this, the reason he lived so long, quote, cigarettes, wild, wild, women.
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>> it was probably the wild, wild women. it wasn't the cigarette and whiskey. >> not just wild women, but wild, wild women. he also said he never worried about anything. >> i heard something about sex keeps you young. i don't know. he must have had a lot of sex, is all i'm saying. i'm no doctor. moving on now to a much more serious story. i apologize for my raw humor. indonesian investigators are close to naming the master mind behind the deadly bombings of two jakarta hotels, the current death toll is eight people. a malaysian fugitive and fringe islamic militant group is suspect number one. now more with the latest. >> that's right. they're trying to figure out who was behind this attack and how they were able to penetrate both of these hotels and as you mentioned, a lead suspect is a malaysian man. he was linked to what is a group of break away groups of islam.
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the group that was link to do three of the attacks here in indonesia. today we went to both of the attack sites and here is ha we found. they were considered among the most well secured hotels in jakarta. operating at the highest security level known as code red, which means there were 40 different security procedures already in place. including drop down barriers where vehicles had to be inspected, metal detector, x-ray machines and special explosive vapor detectors. but that didn't stop the attacks. >> terrorists continue to evolve the tactics. we need to continue to evolve our procedures. >> and that security expert after the mumbai attack went to those hotels attacked in november and congress asked him to testify and say exactly how those kind of attacks could be prevented in the u.s. and you can believe this is going to be among the concern that even people on capitol hill will want to know how do we prevent this
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from happening on u.s. soil. >> thank you very much. a dangerous heat wave that is baking the southwest. triple digit temperatures are widespread, bringing tinder box conditions to many areas. heat advisory in effect for parts of nevada, arizona. hey, domenica. >> lots going on in this part of the country. not only the heat, but we have severe weather possible. a thunderstorm watch box is up for parts of eastern new mexico, southern colorado and the western part of texas until 10:00 o'clock local time. this is where the moisture is and the chance for a thunderstorm. but just to the west of it, we have the temperatures up, you can see how hot it is, 107 in the las vegas area. mesa, arizona, you're well over the 100-degree mark. it sticks around for tomorrow
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and monday you get a break. i mean temperatures more around 99, 100. it's still going to be hot, but not nearly close to 110 like we've been seeing in many spots. we do have the thunderstorms sitting up here just to the east of this hot zone. to the west, if you notice on the radar, some showers are popping up. these aren't carrying a loft rain, but the main concern for the rest of the afternoon and evening is the dry thunderstorm chances, which means lightning without the rain and we are dealing with wild fires. we'll have to keep our eye on that. good news is, we're not seeing a lot of lightning. we did have a few lightning strikes sitting up through the northern part of nevada there. but down to the south we haven't seen too much. that's good news. hang in there. one more day of the oppressive heat and then a little break when you head back to work. >> thanks. >> in germany, a mud slide took away a house and plunged it into
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a crater next to a lake. three people are missing and feared dead. heavy rain may have triggered the mud slide, sending the house 100 yards down a cliff. rescue crews are hampered in their search for the missing people because of the danger of more mud slides. florida declaring hunting season on the burmese python. the governor asking wild life officials to start trapping them right away. he issued the call after a 2-year-old girl was strangled in her bed by a pet python. that happened earlier this month. the state will give permit to ten hunters to try and find and kill those potentially deadly snakes. critics say the plan won't work because they think there are too many pythons and there aren't enough trappers. there are estimated 150,000 pythons running loose in florida. >> divers off the coast of california facing a dangerous underwater invasion.
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they are called hum bolt squid. they have ten arms, red flesh and a whole lot of attitude, i understand. christina in san diego has more on this deep sea danger. >> reporter: the squid with razor sharp weeks, a hefty appetite and tooth like tentacles is feared endangered. >> they'll come up and grab people in the arm. >> nicknamed the red devil for the red coloring and aggressive shriek, the animal attacks anything they see. scuba diver had a frightening encounter with one less than a week ago. >> he had all power over me. i was completely helpless. >> reporter: she says a five foot squid came up behind her, grabbed her inflater hose and diver light. >> as he's pulling me, i'm thinking, i don't want to be eaten by this giant squid. i started kicking like crazy.
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>> reporter: luckily she got away. here is a picture of her a while back with a dead squid, the same creature that attacked her. this creature prefers deep water. >> we just need to respect them. >> reporter: the giant squid are commonly found in mexico, can weigh up to 100 pounds and grow up to 7 feet. >> these are the weeks. >> this biologist says this invasion of hims with bolt squid isn't nearly as bad as in 2002. >> why they've expanded their range, we don't know. >> one theory, their prey moved because of the change in sea temperature. normally they hunt in schools up to 1200. they're fast. they can swim up to 15 miles per hour. and by the looks of it, they won't be leaving any time soon. >> they may have taken up permanent residence here.
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>> that's really gross. that was in san diego. you don't want to look that thing in the eye, literally. >> ike oscar meyer wiener. there is someone may be in hot water. the driver of that wiener mobile could face -- he plowed it into a home. he was driving to make a u turn when he apparently hit the gas pedal instead of the brake and that sent the oversized hot dog truck hurdling into the home's garage. look at that picture. no one was hurt. police not giving the driver a citation. can you imagine coming home one day and seeing the wiener house in your house? >> i can't imagine seeing it anywhere. have you ever seen it drive by your house if. >> no. no wiener mobile in my neighborhood. i used to love hot dogs when i ate meat and then i would crave sweets. i'm a vegetarian. but i wouldn't eat that squid
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with big eyes. but going from salt to sweet, cup cakes. weighing in at 100 pounds, we've got a brand-new world record holder. after five days of preparation, the world's largest cup cake is on display at the mall of america in minneapolis. it measures two feet high, 3 1/2 feet wide, and it's got about 40 pounds of frosting on top. i'd like to take a bite out of that. the calorie count, around 130,000 calories. >> you're a vegetarian, you can have that. >> i'll have it. that's fine. >> in capitol hill, it's going to be some week coming up because the battle lines are drawn. both sides gearing for a fight over the health care bill. will it be passed? president obama says you got to do it by august 7. that's the time when the recess is. we'll look at the pros and cons of the president's bill.
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space station nearing the end of a space walk. their mission is to attach a platform. that platform will complete the $6 billion orbiting laboratory. it's like a porch way up there in space. >> cyclist lance armstrong falling to fourth place overall in the tour defrance. this on a day marred by the death of a spectator who was run over by a police motorcycle escorting the riders.
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the family of walter cronkite saying it's a difficult time now, but it's made easier by the outpouring of support from across the nation. he died last night, he was 92. for decades the voice of many historic events of his generation, including the assassination of president john kennedy and martin luther king, jr. and the first moon landing. >> president obama acting as cheerleader in chief over health care reform. he wants it, he wants it passed quickly and a deadline now possibly. he's urging congress to act quickly, by august. even as he gives pep talks, he may be facing a whole lot of backlash as well. listen to these protesters in iowa. >> this reform needs to be done right. in the in a hurry. that's the reason i'm here, 'cause i don't want these kids to be paying for some of the radical and rushed mistakes that have been made.
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>> spending money, an absurd amount, our country is going to crap. >> they won't end it, people believe their elected representatives are really doing what's right for the whole country. >> given the strong feelings on both sides, where does the health care bill stand now? let's bring in congressman michael burgess, a republican from texas. and congressman rob andrews a democrat from new jersey. thank you for talking to us. let me ask you, conman burgess, you were once a doctor, before you became a congressman and you're still considered a doctor. what would -- >> yes, i am. >> so if you were still practicing in the medical field, a lot of people say that medical malpractice is so out of control and that that is the reason why our health care costs are so high. what would you say? >> it is a factor and texas, some six years ago undertook some massive reforms in our
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medical justice system and they paid off for news a big way. i actually tried to introduce what i call the texas compromise as an amendment to the democratic health care bill yesterday and it was the first amendment out of the box when we started our markup on the bill. waxman knocked it down on a technicality. i am going to try to reintroduce that next week. it was odd because they said i didn't have jurisdiction. the very next amendment that they accepted, we were out of our jurisdiction writing tax laws. it was a little odd to be in that format. but it is a fork. i'll tell you, that doctors are frustrated. they're frustrated by what has happened. the government controls health care, but also the private sector as well. the private insurance has its set of problems. i would never sit here and defend what's happened with the private insurance market, but let's be honest, we have got to have both done right and the time line does not serve us well
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if we're going to rush something through over the next week or two. >> conman andrew, a lot of people are concerned if we were to make health care mandatory that quality would go down, the lines would be ridiculous, getting a doctor's appointment would be harder than today and in some case, that takes weeks. i want to read a tweet, i want to hear the experts explain why seniors will go from priority access to health care today to the end of the line. congressman andrew, what would happen to seniors? >> they would not go to the end of the line. they'd stay in the medicare that they have right now. i think the medicare will be better because the doughnut holes will be gone from the prescription drug coverage and the doctors who take care of medicare patients would be paying what they're worth instead of the very low rates of today. i think the seniors would do better under the plan. >> congressman burgess, another tweet, i'm told we can reform the quality of care given they
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should not be overloading them with more patients as it will not get better. would this be overloading doctors with patients that they couldn't handle? >> i don't think so. doctors have an enormous capacity to do the amount of work required. i have enormous faith in our doctors and nurses and hospitals and technicians and people who work in our hospitals. the problem becomes, as congressman andrews, medicare. a new medicare patient cannot find a doctor because of the things congress has done to doctors over the years. they find themselves limiting that part of their practice. i never did because my mother told me not to. but it is hard. we had some calls earlier on an earlier show on fox business that referenced that very point. the fix that is in this bill for what ails the doctors on the reimbursement rate is no fix at all and it postpones the pain for another couple of years and then it's right back with us again. >> congressman andrew, final word and then we have to wrap this up.
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>> sure. i think that this plan is really all about the best health care in the world, which we have in america, being extended to those who don't have it and making it more affordable for those who do. 14,000 people don't have health care insurance today and the day after that, the day after that, the time has come to fix the problem and very carefully, that's what we'll do. >> it's not careful if you rush it through in three weeks. >> let's have a full debate on that. look forward to it. >> congressman andrews and burgess, thank you very much. one more tweet, i want to read. anyone who says the system needs no major reform hasn't watched someone die needlessly because of insurance denial. too many have. all right. thank you both. >> remembering walter cronkite, the stories, the interview, legacy, the former cbs anchor and icon will join us next to
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the bottom of the hour, time fort top of the news. two endeavor astronauts now hard at work, 220 miles above the earth. they are performing a space walk to install the final segment of a japanese laboratory to the international space station. a suspect is in custody after a string of killings in southern tennessee and alabama. the tennessee bureau of investigation says five bodies were found in two separate houses, while another body was found in the business in huntsville, alabama. no word. >> anonymous source saying the obama administration may create a unit of professional interrogators to handle high value terror suspects. a group of aid workers from a charity based in california are accused of stealing from the people they were intended to help. the money and supplies are meant
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for chris ravaged by civil war. instead of helping those in desperate need, they're charged with spending the charity money on themselves. casey stegall is live in los angeles. what a despicable story. >> despicable. world vision international, it is headquartered here in southern california, but it does humanitarian work, about 100 different countries really across the globe. liberia has long been a priority for the christian organization because for the last two decades or so, the african nation has been rocked by a civil war, killed more than 250,000 people, displaced millions and wiped out much of the country's infrastructure. world vision wanted to help get that country back on track and pumped in roughly 1.4 million u.s. taxpayer dollars to help rebuild the region and bring in much needed supplies. >> ninety-two cents on each dollar makes it into programs that is a tremendous average and
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these are organizations who have signed off and certified that they have systems in place to insure that their resources are going to the right places. >> but a recent audit by world vision's own investigators discovered that only a fraction of the cash was ever making its way to the right people. the other 91% allegedly stolen. three former employees have been accused of selling the relief supplies for their own profit and listen to this, also using the construction materials to renovate their own lavish home instead of rebuilding war torn villages. all three were arrested and now face a long list of federal charges. world vision, by the way, changing its policy to make sure this doesn't happen again. >> we'll go back out into the field and check and make sure the food was delivered to the people that the documents say it was delivered to. we have enhanced our background checks. we insure now that everybody working on united states
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government grants have been through a purpose filled training course. >> world vision maintains this was an isolated incident and they point out that last year, they distributed more than $400 million all around the world. julie. >> thank you very much. the son of walter cronkite is saying thank you. chip cronkite telling laura ingle that while the death of his father is a difficult time, the loss is made easier by all the outpouring of comments and colleagues, viewers and even the president of the united states. walter cronkite will be buried next to his late wife in missouri. after a private funeral service that will be held here in new york city next week. one prominent newsman who worked with him joins us now. morton dean, he spent more than two decades as cbs news anchorman and anchored the sunday night news and it's good to talk to you. not under these circumstances, of course. >> good to be on the air with
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you once again. >> and first, i want to get to something that strikes me. what made you guys so special? the cronkite years, cbs news was the gold standard for broadcast news. that seems to be embodied at the time of walter cronkite. >> that's absolutely true. it was a special place. he was a special person, the most special among all of the humannaries. and his specialness went beyond his celebrity. he told the truth, he was not a partisan. he was a reporter and he loved being a reporter. >> a newsman. we worked at independent network news. when you came, you brought the cbs cronkite aura with you. what made that different and what did he teach you and what went on in that news room?
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>> first of all, part of my respect for walter and the respect of other correspondents was we knew he had been out there. he had spent time as a wire service reporter, newspaper reporter, and as a cbs radio reporter and later as a news correspondent anchor man. he spent part of his time out in the field covering stories and he never lost that sense of awe, of people who did what he often did. he respected people out in the field. you knew when you were out covering a war or covering some kind of difficult story, that walter was on your side and as long as you did a pretty good job of it, you would hear from him. >> he would send telegrams and he would -- did he really yell? >> he absolutely did in my early years there, i had what i
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thought was a pretty good exclusive story, one of the presidential candidates in the primary season was dropping out and i had confirmed it. i knew it was true and i went to a vice president and said, here is the story i have. and at that time, cbs news would interrupt its regularly scheduled broadcast during the day to put on a breaking news story and i thought for sure i'd be on the air in no time. but the vice president i guess didn't quite trust my judgment on this. didn't believe the story was true and i walked into the news room and confronted walter and said, let me tell you the story i have and he said, well, why aren't we going on the air with it? and i said the vice president doesn't want to do it. walter said, come with me. and he walked out of his office through the news room and happened to bump into the vice president and i won't use the language walter used because i know this is a family show, but he yelled at the vice president, he said, you're a chicken blank.
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the story belongs on the air. you've got to go with the story! what are you waiting for? and i was on the air within an hour. >> so you're right, a newsman's newsman. he knew what a story was, with honesty and integrity and let the packages speak for themselves and go with the news. >> yeah. i worked at abc for a while and i was in iraq, before this war, and a group of us were up late at night talking about iraq and the world and the guys were complaining and said the last time they were in iraq, the united states had got a missile attack, brief attack and they we want on the air live and they were complaining that the folks at abc were unhappy with the work they did and nobody got a herogram and we were out there risking our lives, they said. it so happened i went to my room and i called home and got a
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voice message and walter cronkite was on the phone and he said, i heard a couple of your reports from iraq and i thought i would call you, my boy, to find out what's going on over there. if off chance to call me, or wait until you come home, i want to know what's going on, what it's like to work there. i went back into the room where my colleagues were and i said, well, maybe the folks at our current network don't care what we do, but walter cronkite said that he thought we had all been doing a good job. he was very pleased by that and sent his best regards. >> that is an endorsement. whether he was at that network at the time or not. morton dean, thank you so much for joining us and the respect that i have for you personally as we've known each other through the years. >> ditto. >> i've been asking you on twit tore tweet your favorite memories of walter cronkite.
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here is one, george writes, when jfk was shot, i watched coverage in stanford state university, never forget cronkite wiping his tears when jfk was pronounced dead. well, here is that rare moment when walter cronkite let his emotions show through. >> from dallas, texas, the flash apparently official, president kennedy died at 1:00 p.m. central standard time, 2:00 o'clock eastern standard time. some 38 minutes ago. >> wow. it's amazing how they got breaking news back then. he had to get it from somebody else and then transform that live on television like nobody else. >> right off the wires and when he spoke, we trusted him. that's why he was considered the most trusted man in america. >> he had a wonderful life, very long and wonderful life. 92 years old, incredible piece.
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the president's first 100 days in office often draws plenty of attention, but what about the six-month park? a new poll asked vote force weigh in on president obama and his policies and here is some of what is found, 56% of voters approve of the job the president is doing. 43% saying they disapprove. joining me now, the man behind the survey. always great to have you on, doug. the first 100 days we normally talk about that. compare his approval rating from 100 days to the six-month mark. >> he's done eight or ten -- down eight or ten points. which is natural. he's had tough decisions to make, the passage of time,
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frequently is not kind to presidents. but he's about where you would expect him to be. but the numbers are decidedly heading down. >> the economy is the man concern for people. among those, what do they think the u.s. economy is currently doing and how do they think it's going to recover? >> they think we're in a recession and they think it's going to take a while to do that. they think we're beginning to recover, but a substantial percentage think that we're not and there is a real sense that it's going to take a while, perhaps more than a year, year and a half, to fully get out. >> what do they think about unemployment? this is a touchy subject and it's a bad sign for the economy when the white house comes out when it was about 8 1/2% and says yeah, it will probably make about 10% sometime this summer. in michigan it's at 15%. white house themselves, the vice president, biden, has actually said that it's a lot worse than they predicted. >> well, it is. and people are really nervous.
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i think one of the reasons we're seeing that people are really worried about long-term structural unemployment being much more substantial than the administration said is because they're seeing job loss throughout the economy in their own lives, a lot of their friends are losing their jobs, they're getting at best, part-time work, or just becoming discouraged workers and giving up entirely. >> the stimulus package, that $700 billion plus, a lot of people are wondering, sitting in unemployment, when are we going to see those jobs? when is the stimulus package going to help us? instead of seeing the money help the unemployed, it's helping these banks going out of business and these federal bailouts. what do people think of that if. >> they are decidedly negative on the bailouts. they think the banks and financial institutions on wall street are getting basically a free pass and billions of dollars and they're suffering the ordinary person, is suffering a lot of income and a lot of jobs. there is decided dissatisfaction
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there on the auto industry, on the bailout and the financial industry and there is a sense that the ordinary person hasn't benefited from the stimulus. >> okay. the health care reform, the president wants that passed by august. a lot of people say what's the rush? one writes, why? that's the issue. a lot of people are wondering what is congress thinking? they pass all this stuff, it doesn't do any good and we know they didn't read half the stuff. so what gives? >> exactly. people want health care reform. they want more access and more affordability. but the devil is in the details and when we polled on the details of potentially raising taxes or potentially setting up a government bureaucracy to run a plan, decided skepticism, hence the obama administration's trying to move as quickly as they can. >> doug, thank you very much. great to have you. >> new details unfolding in the
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horrific murder case of bird and melanie billings. they were murdered inside their home. this and the children they adopted, many of them slept. coming up, we'll look at what's next for the billings children. they were adopted, many have special needs. what kind of future do they have?
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experiments. it's like a space porch. it's the third and final piece. >> lance armstrong slipping to fourth place overall. it was marred by the death of a fan who was hit by a police motorcycle escorting the cyclists. there has been an arrest in a string of murders. five people killed in tennessee, the bodies found in two separate houses. a sixth body found in a business in huntsville, alabama. people have taken one person into custody. so far, no details on the motive. >> we are learning more about what is being called the orchestrated murder of a florida couple. the billings were well-known for adopting special needs children. now eight suspects are under arrest and today two of them appeared in court to be charged with open count of murder. >> the question facing authorities is what will happen to those kids that you see in this picture? some of their children. they adopted 17 children, many had disabilities. so how will a court decide what's best for the children?
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joining us now are former prosecutor joey jackson and legal analyst. welcome. your heart breaks. a horrendous home invasion story and then you see the children, a generous couple. joey, what are authorities doing now? they have two tracks? the investigation and the kids. >> it's horrific on so many levels. first as far as the kids are concerned, i am confident that the florida authorities will place them properly. they'll do what's in the best interest of the children. but the thing that's problematic is it's tough to keep a family of 17 together. so as a result of that, or at least 13 in terms of the children that were adopted, and so the fact that they will have no caring parent anymore because they're dead and the fact the kids will potentially be split up is gut wrenching and it will have long-term consequences. >> the suspect twist is so strange. eight people are being suspected of orchestrating this sloppy plan because they thought the surveillance cameras were not
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on. but the systems includes a man, who teaches children, a woman, pamela longwiggen who is a real estate broker, and her alleged connection to the crime may prove the most puzzling. >> it's amazing. she's friendly with gonzalez. that's her connection to the crime. it's not that she participated, she didn't seem to participate in the planning or the execution, but afterward. if she did anything, gave them a car to flee from the property itself, if she fed them afterward, whatever she did to assist them, fleeing from that scene, she could face 30 years in prison, which is unbelievable as an accessory after the fact. >> absolutely. even more to that point, florida is a felony murder jurisdiction. as a result of that, felony murder, if you commit a murder, this was clearly premedicated and planned, anyone who acts acn
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if you arance of a felony, goes down on a felony murder trial. it's those who participated pard planned and they all had felony records, a horrific circumstance for all concerned. >> gonzalez, you mentioned he was teaching children, had some sort of award for teaching these children because he had karate classes. >> i wonder if they went in there intend to go kill them. because they talk about this being a home invasion and they wanted to steal money and expensive merchandise. why not just -- if they're going to do it, why kill the parents? their intent on robbing these two, i wonder if they went in with guns expecting to kill the couple and if that somehow played a role in court, their intent. >> not so much their intent. once their intent was commit burglary, once they're in the house and anything that takes place is a felony murder. >> you got to think, they could have waited, if it was a simple robbery and they just wanted to get goods from the house, wait until they're not there, go in
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and do what you have to do. they had to know they were there. they had prior knowledge of the couple and what they were all about. in addition to the layout of the home. >> does that tell you that there could be something else going on or just that's what happened tragically? >> i think we live in desperate times and desperate times have desperate people. i think they went in there, thought there was # thousandses and thousands of dollars in a safe in addition to family valuable asks just bungled it. >> and all they had were the adoptive papers and heirloom pieces. >> 17 kids as a whole, some of them adopted, four of them, i believe, two from previous marriages for either of them. it's almost impossible all 17 kids will wind up in the same house. >> you're exactly right. what's so scary is that those children were there. someone had seen the intruders and thankfully they weren't harmed. but they were in the home. >> the psychological damage is unrepairable. >> thank you to you both. >> thank you.
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