>> julie: good afternoon, i'm julie banderas. >> kelly: and i'm kelly wright. a train accident in boston. what officials have found that may have caused this crash had. >> julie: what going on with the transit system, a live interview coming up. islamic militants releasing video of a captured american soldier. i'll be talking live an army colonel about what the military options are. >> kelly: you may want to think what kinds of items you are paying for with your credit card. we'll tell you some of the

things you do not want to put on your plastic. a developing story we're following right here on fox. taliban releasing internet video of a kidnapped soldier. confirming to fox news that the man is 23-year-old man of idaho. we have chosen not to show the clip in its entirety but this is a still picture taken from the chilling tape. his head is shaved and wearing a gray jumpsuit. according to officials he told his captures that she scared. 28 minute long video he becomes emotional when talking about his family here at home and his girlfriend. military officials say he was captured on june 30th when he walked away from his u.s. base camp. now joining us on the phone is conner powell. >> the u.s. military is focusing

their search in and around pakita province, it's rugged and taliban hot bed area. military has been combing the area night and day and often they can provide information on the private's location. a pentagon spokesman condemned the video calling it taliban propaganda and illegal under international law. military says they will do everything they can to bring home bergdahl safely. >> any idea how he wound up in the hands of the taliban in the first place? >> it's still unclear. the military is saying that he waked off his post in eastern afghanistan without his body armor, voluntarily on june 30th. taliban is claiming they in fact captured him while he was out on

patrol. regardless of how he ended up in the hands of the taliban, it's clear he is very scared. at one point he is telling his captures he'll never see his family or girlfriend again. one aspect of the video according to a military spokesman it proves that he is still alive. by the looks of it, he is in decent health. those searching for him are given some hope they can recover him safely. >> kelly: it's very important because it does show proof of life and he was eating. it's so disturbing when you see the emotion of this 23-year-old bergdahl and he is talking about his family. he is talking about his fiancee and he wants to come home to marry her but he is saying that he is scared and he may not get home. what are officials saying about the release of this video?

>> they have condemned it. this is exactly what they don't want out there. they have been trying to handle this with the military searching the area and through afghan channels. this is the type of attention they don't want. it ratchets up the pressure on for them to do something. when people are kidnapped in afghanistan they try to go down the rhetoric and much lower level. this doesn't help. >> kelly: conner, we appreciate your recording from that region to updating us on private bergdahl. even there in afghanistan are, indeed, hoping for his safe return. conner powell joining us today on the phone from kabul, afghanistan. thank you, sir. >> julie: makeshift memorials at the scene of deadly hotel bombings in jakarta. mourners are placing flowers outside the hotels.

terror experts are combing through the evidence and yet to name a suspect. it's believed the terrorist tied to al-qaeda was the mastermind that killed nine people and dozens more americans that were injured. reena ninan is live in indonesia with the latest. there was a delay between the two of us via satellite. all our viewers are aware. do we know anything more about the suicide bombers? >> right now police are focusing on trying to reconstruct the face of suicide bombers. the explosion initially they believe one of those suicide bombers could have been a woman. they are backing away from that saying the woman that was found was one of the victims. they believe they can reconstructed the faces of these suicide bombers. that might help identify them and say they are linked to the group as you mentioned that has links to al-qaeda. >> julie: do we know in the

f.b.i. will be sent in to help the investigation. >> reporter: it's a good question because in the past they say the f.b.i. has been very much involved. they have provided equipment and help educate the people on the ground. a police is spokesman say they are capable of handling these bombing situations alone. they or not asking for new agents to come in from washington. embassy does have an f.b.i. presence here. they have been speaking with them on a regular basis but for now, they are not asking for any sort of back-up to come from washington. >> julie: thank you so much reena ninan. >> kelly: death toll rising after devastating moon soon rains. most of the deaths call by collapsing walls and electrocution. hundreds of families remain trapped in their homes.

monsoons hit hard every year but parts of city of 16 million people very vulnerable. >> julie: suicide bombing in indonesia has the nypd beefing up security at new york hotels. new york law enforcement met with hotels to go over security measures. nypd sent an investigator to jakarta to see what can be learned from the attack. it targeted american luxury hotels, marriott and ritz carleton. >> kelly: they called for the fall of capitalism and for the rise of islam. committed to building an international empire at any means even holy war. islamic extremists linked to al-qaeda now coming out of shadows and in to the open holding a recruiting conference right here, of all places on u.s. soil. steven brown is live at the hit ton hotel in the chicago suburb of oak lawn where the conference

is underway. this is really shocking and even one could argue that it's very brazen of this group to do it? >> the group claims it has held two other conferences here in the states, both of them in the chicago area that has gotten little attention. the name of the group habut tazeer and the natural replacement is islam. as you mention the conference is held at the hilton hotel here. no cameras allowed inside the conference except the one in which they control in a streaming out on the web at this particular time. better than 200 people i saw were in attendance, men sitting in the front, women sitting in the rear, all declaring capitalism the source of the world's misery. interested in restoring muslim rule. they have connections to

terrorist groups with al-qaeda a charge flatly denied by a spokesman today. >> by all means, terrorism as a means of killing individuals, to achieving political objectives is not in our dictionary and we condemn it by all means. >> they insist it's a peaceful group but among the materials handed out is a dvd. on it are scenes from atrocities by russian soldiers in 1990s, presumably many of the victims were muslim. there is a voice of an unknown man, possibly a cleric, where are the armies of syria and yemen and pakistan and others. certainly in the opinion of this reporter, it sounded like a call to arms which would be a strange thing for a group that add rose peaceful methods to be distributed. what sounds like people calling to arms to invade a foreign

country. >> kelly: thank you for the report. we'll be talking to an expert about this very group. that will be coming up later on in today's broadcast. thank you very much. >> julie: big firestorm flaring up on capitol hill over a secret c.i.a. program put in place after 9/11. it's mission to assassinate members of al-qaeda. now, remember that word, assassinate. the agency concealed the program's existence from congress for years even though it's been shut down, lawmakers are demanding an investigation. they are furious. they want to know why congress was kept in the dark. how was this program really in the works? joining me is former c.i.a. case officer and columnist for time.com, thanks so much for talking to us. in your column you say you believe this so-called assassination plan was pure hypothetical. c.i.a. intended to tell congress

about it if the plan became real possibilities. are you saying this plan was never put into action? >> it was never put into action, no one was sent in the field, no weapons were issued and no targets were picked. this is purely a contingency planning ordered by the white house and nobody spent any money of any significance. there were no changes in any finding. i think the entire investigation is very silly. it's just pure congressional politics. >> julie: the program allegedly had assassination plans in the works. at least that is what the swlh going by, that's why congress wanted an investigation. are you saying that the white house wants to wipe out the c.i.a. and this is there way to do it? >> it's not the white house, it's more congress, it's nancy pelosi in a fight with the c.i.a., and she had a hook to get back at the c.i.a..

>> julie: what does she have against the c.i.a.? >> we found a month ago they had briefed her on abusive interrogation techniques. she denied that. c.i.a. says no, we have a record of that. unless there is a shoe to drop, i just don't see the purpose of this investigation. contingency planning all the time with the approval of the white house and it doesn't need to tell congress. >> julie: after 9/11 c.i.a. was responsible for tracking down osama bin laden. why is it that the democratic congress people are trying to pick a beef with the c.i.a. that is supposed to be responsible for tracking down terrorists? if we don't have the c.i.a. to do it, who is going to do it? i don't get it. >> i don't get it either. we already assassinating people

with hell fire is missiles and it's authorized with congress. six people were killed in a car in yemen. there has been assassinations,. it's just a minute difference what we're doing already. >> julie: and there is a controversial issue, vice president dick cheney, what did he know about it and what reasons would he have had to keep it in the dark? fortunately we lost bob. any way i was getting to vice president dick cheney's involvement because a lot of people are saying he was also was part of keeping the secret to congress. >> kelly: there was very important story that came out. did he play a role in it? and if he did do that, did he have the prerogative to carry out that. >> julie: and did he share that information with the president of the united states.

>> kelly: the former vice president has not comment so far public loy it. >> julie: bob, thank you very much for joining us. always interesting. >> kelly: it's summertime and it's hotter than july, how hot is it in california? it's literally as hot as an oven blistering heat is what these two men needed to bake cookies, baking cookies on the dashboard of their car. the two guys are meteorologists. they wanted to see the 108 degree weather would do the trick with baking. you bake don't you. >> julie: in a microwave, absolutely. i bake popcorn. >> kelly: cookies were baked to perfection. california heat wave showing no signs letting up. >> geraldo: let's see who is the special meteorologist of the day. >> kelly: there she is.

>> julie: hi. >> the easy bake oven. >> julie: there is a story about the easy bake oven, it's the one toy that i wanted as a little girl. possible wedding gifts, i'll take one. >> may be you would have been a cook. >> julie: that is exactly right. here is a look at the temperatures. it's going to be hot out to the southwest, 91 in los angeles but if you go a bit in burbank, california, that is where temperatures are 101. we see the temperatures at the hundred degree mark. 110 in phoenix. today is the last day. tomorrow temperatures will fall a bit. it's still going to be hot. it's the southwest after all but not nearly what we've been seeing. temperatures will come down a little bit more reality for this

time of the year. in lotto to mid 90s, which is what you get in july in this part of the country. here are the heat warnings that stay up until 8:00. that is where we're looking at the dangerous heat until the sun goes down and then we'll have a cooling. chance for isolated thunderstorms along the coast of california but any organized activity will be further in the east. dallas down north of houston, we're looking at a thunderstorm watch until 9:00. then we saw this watch pop up yesterday in the same area, new mexico, colorado and western part of texas, clipping oklahoma. that is until 9:00 local time. watch out for some wind gusts. we had pretty good wind gusts and it's going to be the same thing you saw in those areas. watch auto for falling tree branches and things of that nature. >> julie: your friend charlie's retirement party out in california is going to be so

hot. he is a good guy. okay, domenica. >> duking it out over health care reform. obama administration insisting the overhaul will not help the deficit and wait until the final bill is written. but they say it's way too expensive and could lead to major tax hikes and lost jobs. caroline is live to explain. >> it's a big problem for the white house. this weekend president obama pledged not to sign anything that is deficit neutral. but the congressional budget office, they say the health care plan would put the u.s. $239 billion further in the hole over a decade. >> those were pretty damning words and they should make us step back, pause and what is going forward in the congress and how can we do this better. there are ways to do this better.

>> democrats say the report isn't tell the whole story. dems say expected savings from medicare to doctors, they will save the country $6 billion over a decade but it's not in the bill yet. doctors and medical experts to oversee costs should cut the price tag. >> this is deficit neutral over the first decade, there are additional steps to make it better than that over the long term. >> reporter: house version would add half a billion in taxes so that would mean 39 of 50 states would have tax rates over 50% when you combine this with other policies. they say the taxes would only affect 1% to 2% of the population. health and human secretary said what we see now is a work in progress. >> julie: thank you very much. >> kelly: paper or plastic? you may want to start rethinking

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>> julie: just three days after breaking his wrist pope john paul ii is back to work while wearing a cast on his right arm. he blessed thousands of catholic faithful at a mass. he broke his wrist at a mountain retreat near france.

>> kelly: last of the british embassy workers detained after election protest. eight others were released weeks ago. >> julie: it's unlikely murder charges will be filed in the death of michael jackson. this courg to a source for l.a. times. they have been breaking every story. a source told the paper it could be a long time before the investigation wraps up. >> kelly: america's health care for the first time in five decades wasn't a big enough task they are facing a looming deadline. budget director tells fox news today that the white house still wants to the bill passed by early august. but there is growing concern from both sides of the aisle it may all be going way too fast. >> hit the nail on the head and who is appointed by the democratic leadership by the house and senate, he said had that this bill as proposed or the bills has proposed would significantly aggravate the

health care cost situation. that the cost of health care would go up significantly. it would raise significantly the burden on the federal government as to what it has to pay. >> kelly: so do lawmakers need to chill out? giving both sides of the issue or joe from pennsylvania and republican congressman dan burton from indiana. this is a really big problem. we're looking at the economy and the president echoing if health care goes on continuing form it's going to derail the economy. but then they say the current plan proposed would further derail the economy. what do you say about this? >> it's not just cbo, they said if they raised business taxes we would lose as many 4.7 million

jobs in america because raising those business taxes. in addition to that the total tax increase over a decade would be about $800 billion in new taxes. it's going to affect medicare advantage for seniors and ultimately cause rationing of health care. >> kelly: congressman? >> they came out with a new study on friday that the proposal in the house is deficit budget neutral. in fact, if you noticed what the gentleman said from cbo was it would not slow down very much the growth of health care. that is true for this first year. look, doing nothing is not an option. we've done that over the last eight years. here in pennsylvania, health premiums have gone up 85%. so what does th budget does is a budget neutral approach, bring in the uninsured because if they are covered, the insured will be

paying less. we pay per family right now $1100. if you are insured for the uninsured because the cost is passed on to us. second, what it says public health care option begins the competition that we only have 70% of our health care plans, we need to get the competition lower cost. this is a very good plan. >> kelly: this is what we're getting, facebook, bobby writes in, it needs to happen within the system. we have the republicans offering their plan and democrats offering their plan. how do you accomplish what bobby average american wants to accomplish, that is not reinventing the wheel but dealing with the system we have and making it work for everybody? >> i think that is something that can be done. we have made some suggestions we think would improve the health care system. if you look at a map or a plan of the democrats' program it

looks like spaghetti bowl. you can't follow what you have to go from one point to another point to get health care. in addition to that, we haven't seen that plan. that plan is going to have a total of about 1100 pages and nobody in congress has yet read it. we're supposed to vote on this within two weeks. i think the president wants to vote on it before we go home because there is such growing opposition among the people of this country. >> kelly: congressman, what is problem going back to the table, going back to the drawing board? why does it have to be done before the summer recess? >> as you know over the last eight years it's not what it looks like. when congress was controlled by the republicans, we lost 7 million americans uninsured. look, if we don't act quickly, we'll be in next year's political elections and people tend not to be as courageous.

it doesn't reinvent anything. what it says stay in the health care plan with your doctor if you want to. all it does, 47 million americans that you and your family pay $1100 more on private health care plan because they go in the emergency room, bring them in. let them choose one of the plans, we subsidize the poor because you pay for it anyway. it's honest, accountable government. >> kelly: i see you itching to get one word in. >> i would like to say in closing, if you think government has done such a good job of running everything in our country, just think federal government running health care. it's going to cost more and less efficient and end up rationing health care, socialized medicine. >> kelly: i hope that both sides of the can come together and get something together because obviously you both agree that something has to be done. president agrees that something

has to be done and vowing to get it done. american public is saying, get it done but how about a plan that makes it looks like what you are getting there on capitol hill. thank you very much congressmen. >> julie: the search for clues in yet another commuter train crash. nearly 50 people injured in san francisco yesterday. that makes three major crashes in less than three months. so how safe are the nation's railways? pasteurized processed cheese product? (lou gentine) or natural cheese slices? at sargento, our deli style slices are always made naturally. sargento. persnickety people. exceptional cheese.

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>> julie: time for the latest news, secretary of state hillary clinton in india as he puashs plan to fight climate change. india standing firm on carbon emissions and has the lowest emissions per capita in the world. >> kelly: u.s. military confirms

that the man shown in a video is an american soldier. he is from idaho. he disappeared from his base in afghanistan last month. >> julie: one of the two on the international space station is out of order. for now, shuttle crew has their own commode. there are 13 together in space. no toilet, that is no good. >> kelly: very crowded situation >> kelly: something more serious. a series of railway crashes to the collision of san francisco just yesterday. one train plowed into another as they were both leaving the station. nearly 50 people taken to hospitals, four seriously injured. it's the third major transit accident since may. it's raising serious concerns about the safety of our nation's railways. laura ingle is live in new york

with more details. >> reporter: smoke, blood and screams, those are the words witnesses have used to describe yet another nightmarish scene. we are expecting to hear from n.t.s.b. on the latest information on this investigation. now, the n.t.s.b. tells us they are talking with the two train operators, witnesses and passengers to piece together the accident. one train operator was one of four hospitalized with serious injuries. many more were hurt when the westbound train plowed into another sitting on the platform. there was one woman standing there she saw the withhold thing happened and the train operator had his head down looking asleep or passed out. this is at least third major transit accident in the country in the last few months. nine people were killed. more than 70 injured june 22nd in a washington, d.c. crash when a train crashed into another. on may 8th, more than 50 people

were injured when a boston trolley plowed into another train. 24-year-old operator blew through a red signal when he was texting on a cell phone. n.t.s.b. committee members are trying to figure it on how to stop these crashes and improve public safety. some commuters are concerned about going on have taken the initiative to record drivers when they see them and train operators, like this cell phone video of a d.c. metro train operator allegedly taking a nap while at the controls. it's become an increasing concern. in october of 2008, six accidents between 2000 and 2006 involved cell phone use. railroad commission have restricted employees from using cell phones and other electronic devices while on duty. >> julie: the pentagon now

identifying an american soldier captured by the taliban. he is private first klat bergdahl, he disappeared from his base in afghanistan on june 30th. today he is surfaced in a video posted online by the taliban, he is scared he won't be able to go home. so when one of our troops is captured, how do we get them back safely? strategic analyst raffle peters joins us now. when he was captured on june oath he was captured while he walked away from his u.s. base camp. many people e-mailing and asking how can a soldier walk off from a base on his own. wouldn't there always be another soldier with him, be partnered with another person. what can you tell bus that. >> i want the stress first of all, we must wait until all the facts are in. nobody in the military is

defending this guy. he is apparent deserter. reports that he abandoned his buddies. he abandoned his post and walked off. we'll see what the ultimate truth is. if he did, he is a deserter in war time, he is in problems. on that video he is collaborating with the inmate. under duress are not, she making accusations of the behavior of the military in afghanistan that are unfined had. she lying about how he was captured saying he lagged behind a patrol. i'll tell you, any infantry tri-man will tell you that is not how it works. if it's a night patrol you should know where you are and the man in front or behind you. we know she liar but the media needs to hit the pause button

and not portray him as a hero. >> julie: wow, i don't want to speculate, from what we know as a news agency. we watched the video. first of all we are not airing the video, the network has decided we will not air the video because that is obviously what his captures want. we're not going to do the taliban any favors here. in a case like this where a soldier is taken captive, how does the military prepare for this, and how do they get their guy back? >> military prepares for it by rigorous training. all soldiers know the code of conduct, what you are allowed to do and not allow to do in enemy hands. there are strict limits. you don't want to be giving information about your unit, your battle plans, et cetera. as far as getting him back, we don't know. first of all, i would bet he is not even in afghanistan, i bet

he across the border in pakistan. best bet in getting him back, is tipsters, special operations. for right now i think he is okay. they're not going kill him right away because he has tremendous propaganda value. he is making anti-american statements. i want to be clear. when the facts are in, we find out that there is some convoluted chain of events, he really was captured by the taliban, i'm with him. but if he walked away from his post and his buddies in war time i don't care how hard it sounds, as far as i'm concerned the taliban can save us a lot of legal hassles and legal bills. >> julie: all right. thank you very much. regardless of what the situation is, we do not want to see any u.s. soldier in harm's way and we hope this guy gets out of

there safely. he is an american and one of ours. >> think about his buddies. >> julie: and of course everyone who is over there in his group. thank you very much for talking to us. >> kelly: advice from experts, there is a whole list of things you shouldn't be putting on your credit card. some may surprise you. what you shouldn't be charging and if you do, how it could impact your chances of getting a loan. ( conversation ) garth, you're up. hold on, i'm at capitalone.com picking a photo... for my credit card. here's one from my prom. oh, what memories. how 'bout one from our golf outing? ( shouting ) i know, maybe one of my first-born son. dad, mom says the boys gotta go. personalize your card by uploading... your own photo at capitalone.com. what's in your wallet? ♪

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>> kelly: a small plane flipped over at the end of a runway at a westerns in airport. it flipped and landed on the dirt. a father and son were airlifted to the hospital. the extent of the pairs' injuries is unknown. >> julie: you may want to think twice before you whip out the plats particular next time you head up to the register to pay for something because money experts are saying that they are

listing ten things you should not pout credit card, day at the spa, to a round of drinks with your friends. purchases that seem innocent at the time but could hurt your credit. dominic, i say cash is king and never put it on credit card unless i have the cash. that is the mistake a lot of people make. >> i think that is smart. time when using credit card we don't realize how much we're spending. we get immune to the transaction so you spend, spend. when you get the bill to end of the month, it can be in the thousands of dollars, cash works a lot better. >> julie: thing you do not want to charge under any circumstances, number one, traffic tickets, you say. >> not me. a study that was done on this particular thing. if you have been reckless the way you are driving you probably

are not going to be responsible when you use your credit card. credit card companies have seen their margins cut, new rules in the spring. they are looking at ways to cut costs and cut out holders that are not being responsible. >> julie: retreading your tires? >> the issue is if you couldn't afford to buy new steirs and buying ones that are retreaded then your financial situation is not healthy. any kind of earmarks that would look for people that will be in trouble. >> julie: bargain binges, using it at a 99 cent store. >> transactions in the wal-mart, the new kind of posh thing to do is shop at wal-mart. credit card companies are looking where you shop and if you are doing for budgeted reasons. >> julie: you are talking about bargain binges and they are

looking at adult play toys. yes, folks we're talking about porn. >> the theory here and going into the alcohol issue is that if you are not being responsible and binging on spending on these items you may be unemployed, maybe they need to cut back. >> julie: and wasting your money and personal pampering, what are you talking about. go to the spa and charge it on a credit card? >> let's talk about the lottery tickets, it's not a good bet. if you think you are going to win a million bucks, it doesn't work out. not a smart way to invest your money. as far as going to the spa, i don't know the average person that is not using a credit card but not overdoing it and not getting the extra. >> julie: the booze by the way is so key.

carry cash to the bar. if you are like me, sometimes i feel generous when i've had a drink or two, the zriong me and there is 15 co-workers and next day i look at my receipt, it's like $500. >> you want to think about this. that is a couple of thousand bucks, now you are paying interested on that money. >> julie: that is why you spend cash. always the best way. great to have you on. >> kelly: tomorrow america marks an historic event the landing of apollo 11 on the moon. mission took place 40 years ago. coming up, we will talk to the man who is currently responsible for a piece of that history. he is in charge of apollo 11's module that safely brought three astronauts into space and back home.

>> julie: welcome back. time for top of the news, an arrest made for murders of six people. charging jacob schaffer killing four adults and two juveniles. they are believed for of the same family. they found schaffer sitting on the front porch of one of his alleged victims. >> king of pop's music legacy may continue with his four brothers. michael jack sons' brothers mechanics of the five want to do several shows jackson was going to do this no mo in london.

>> pentagon confirming the identity of taliban internet video, the man is 23-year-old private bergdahl. they say he was kidnapped last month while walking away from his base in afghanistan. >> kelly: first man on the moon, the race ended 40 years ago on july 20th, 1969 to be exact. astronauts kneel armstrong, buzz aldrin and michael collins were on top of a rocketed and landed on the moon. if you are old enough to remember, these were the words and images that gripped our nation that day and the world on that historic day. listen. >> that's one small step for man one giant leap for mankind. >> the words of armstrong. responsible for the command

module for apollo 11. roger is the curator of the national air museum. >> it's very cool job and my pleasure to be here. i should add there are several and we are responsible for all of these objects at the museum. >> kelly: i understand when years ago when the 11 command module came into your possession that astronaut michael collins was the curator of the museum at that time, is that correct? >> he was the director back in the 1970s when it first opened in 1976. the apollo command module was there at the opening. >> kelly: he got to see the ship that he piloted back in his possession and was responsible for showing to it the public. i've been to that museum so many times. i've taken my sons there. it's one of our favorite spots.

each time i go there i marvel how tiny the housing compartment was. tell us about it? >> it is tiny. very small capsule, few cubic feet that has a three astronauts aboard. it's set atop a 363 feet launcher that was massive in size and scale and power. this small piece is the only came home bringing the astronauts safely back on the 24th of july. >> kelly: do you have a replica of the lunar landing module? >> we do. it's a test article that didn't fly in space, but we do have one of those on display. it's not an actual object, it never got in space. >> kelly: this is a huge day tomorrow as we recall on years what took places on the montana what kind of special event will you be unfolding there? >> there is a whole series of things that are happening.

there was activities yesterday that nasa sponsored. there is more activities tonight with the public lecture with the crew at the museum tomorrow. they'll be a whole series of activities including a visit with the crew in the oval office for president obama. other activities closing off the day with a big party at the museum. >> kelly: you look back on history and, of course, with this weekend the untimely passing of walter cronkite who was america's icon of journalism and very much in favor of the moon program. he obviously would be looking at this moment as being a part of history. he always wanted to travel in space but never had the occasion to 2000. will there be commemoration of him tomorrow? >> no doubt about it. there is going to be comments and various public meetings about him and his role in the space program. he reported on it, but it was more than that. he was also a bit of a cheerleader and excited as

anybody at the time that the astronauts set foot on the moon in 1969. mopping his brow and literally sighing as they reach the surface. >> i recall that moment in history i was sitting at home with my mother, grandmother and my aunt. we were watching and we just marveled. we were thinking about a decade before, john f. kennedy said let's go into a new frontier boldly. we were thinking about all the things that took place in the 60s, assassination of bobby kenny and martin luther king, but this was a moment in time that gave us a sigh of relief. can you ever replace that magic that nasa gave us back then? >> it will be hard to do. nasa would like to return to the

moon. i'm sure it will generate when they are successful. some similar sorts of responses but we trace our lives based upon these grand events that we recall. the apollo landing was one of those, but most of those times when we think about they are negative like 9/11. but this one was a very positive event and we all remember it fondly. >> kelly: roger, thank you so much for sharing that. you have a great job. got to go. >> julie: all right. check this guy out. what does he have in common with the most wanted terrorist in the world? the answer might surprise you, next. oyoñ woohoo! listen, that beret is really not hot.

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captioning by, closed captioning services, inc. >> kelly: i'm kelly wright in for gregg jarrett. >> julie: i'm julie ban days, topping the news a fugitive on the top ten most wanted list, arrested. we'll tell you where the feds caught up with this guy, he's accused of firing an assault rifle at los angeles police in 2000 and has been on the run since. >> kelly: an islamic extremist group with suspected ties to al qaeda are in the u.s. and holding a conference at a hotel outside of chicago, today. why are they here? we'll tell you about the group that is calling for the fall of

capitalism and they rise of islam. >> julie: the taliban releasing an on-line video showing a kidnapped u.s. soldier in afghanistan, we won't show you the video, we'll show you the screen cap here, defense department officials confirming a -- to fox the man seen in the video is 23-year-old bob burgdolh of idaho and he was captured june 30th and walked away from base and we have chosen not to show the video, and we have instead the still from the tape showing him sitting down with the shaved head and wearing a gray jumpsuit, in the video, he tells captors that he is scared, and he wants to come home, conor powell is on the phone with more from kabul, and this is taliban demanding anything for his release? >> caller: julie, they are demanding all u.s. troops leave afghanistan, immediately, and clearly this is not going to

hatch. one of the dangers with kidnapping, once someone is taken, they are moved around and moved to more powerful insurgent groups and this worry now is who is holding him paid a steep price for him making it ard harder to earn his release and may not be in afghanistan and might have been moved to pakistan, and the taliban still operates freely along the border region and re-- this remains a dell ka and complicated situation for this u.s. military. and, for the private. >> julie: anything hampering getting him back? >> caller: communications, communicating with the taliban is not something that is easily done, i mean, they operate in their own sort of world between pakistan and afghanistan, and in that border region and trying to communicate and figure out who exactly has him and what exactly they want, for him, and, if they are willing to release him is probably the greatest problem,

right now in terms of securing his release. >> julie: any guys on the u.s. base where he was staying, are they talking? is there any information coming in particular from the guys who were with him just before he was captured. >> caller: no, the military is staying tight-lipped about what exactly happened and there are conflicting reports. i did speak to soldiers that are in the region, that have been out searching for him, but, the military has said initially he walked off the base, alone, without his body armor and without his helmet, and, that he just sort of voluntarily left his post, the taliban claimed they captured him while he was out on patrol and it's not exactly clear what exactly happened but he is obviously in a great deal of danger at this point, regardless of how he came to be in the taliban control. >> julie: conor powell, om kabul, on the phone, thank you so much. >> caller: thank you. >> julie: a civilian helicopter crashing in a military base in

afghanistan, according to u.s. military and nato officials, 16 people are dead. in a nato statement, the crash happened, during take off, from kandahar airfield, part of the biggest u.s. military base in southern afghanistan. the exact cause of the crash, is now under investigation. >> kelly: islamic extremist group committed to building an empire around the globe, a group reportedly linked to al qaeda, by the way, and a mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, and it is holding a major conference at this very moment, not on foreign soil, but right here on u.s. soil. steve brown live at the hilton hotel now in the chicago suburb of oak lawn where the conference is underway as we speak and what types of things has the group been talk about at the conference today, steve. >> reporter: kelly, a couple of things to point out, first 0 of all it is a group banned in some western nations including germany, but, is not -- is not on the u.s. state department list of terrorist organizations, and that said, the group here

today, who claims this is their third chicago area conference, but certainly the one that is getting the most attention, claims capitalism is failing and we see it in the the worldwide global economic melted down we have been experiencing over the course of the last year and the natural replacement for capitalism, is islam. they would like to see a caliphate or an islamic leader leading all islamic nations enforcing islamic law or sharia as we have come to know it. >> kelly: they claim to be nonviolent but the materials they've passed out to people attending the conference suggest otherwise, doesn't it? >> reporter: yeah, absolutely, this dvd is part of the conference materials, given to me by them, an outcry to the islamic faithful of islam and in it there is a section of video from the chechnyan wars, between chechnya and russia in the 1990s, showing various civilian casualties, presumably many if not all of these folks are muslim and there is a voiceover

by an unidentified male voice, a cleric or everybody talking where the -- where are the armies of jordan and syria and yemen and the bombs of pakistan and why is it there is no response from these muslim nations and clearly, a call to arms. which is not a thing for a peaceful group to be distributing during a conference. >> kelly: imagine the peaceful group would have a call to prayer, not arms. and let's talk about protesters, they have been outside the hotel all day, have you seen them and were there flare-ups and how are police dealing with all of this. >> reporter: first of all, we can show you here, a little bit, kill, there is a persistent, several dozen, a group of protesters that have been out here and most of them carrying signs, american flags and it has been peaceful and the worst it has gotten is there were words south back and forth across the street and there, yes, is a very adequate, more than adequate police presence here, the cook

county sheriffs department an police department in full force out here all day long, so, in terms of incidents requiring police intervention, none that we have seen. >> kelly: steve brown reporting from oak lawn and by the way, we will be talk about this, how dangerous is iz -- this islamic supremacist group and we'll take a closer look at their goals and their activities, here in the u.s., terrorist analyst joins us later in the show. >> julie: the white house using the sunday talk shows to promote and defend the president's health care agenda. republicans and even some democrats, saying the plan's trillion dollar price tag is too much, health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius among those in the administration trying to allay the opposition's fears. caroline shivley with the story live in washington. caroline. >> reporter: julie, the congressional budget office says the house health care plan would put the u.s. $239 billion, further in the hole over a decade and today secretary

sebelius said the plan is just a work in progress. >> house and senate are actively working and share the president's goal, that overall costs have to come down for everyone. so, they have an initial report, on one of the initial bills, that says in the long term this doesn't bend the cost curve enough. >> democrats say the cbo report is not telling the whole story and dems maintain expected savings from cutting medicare reimbursement, mean reform will actually save the country $6 billion over a decade and it is just not in the bill yet and a planned committee of doctors and medical experts to oversee costs should cut the price tag further and republicans are the not buying it and fighting the half a trillion dollars in taxes proposed in the house bill and the administration tells fox those taxes would only affect one or two percent of the population, but when you combine it with local taxes and other obama tax policies, it would mean 39 of the 50 states would have tax rates over 50%. one republican calls the

democratic house and senate legislation, expand the government bills. >> basically both of those bills lead to putting the bureaucracy between you and your doctor and i believe leads to delay and rationing in the end. >> reporter: and they are working fast and congress goes on recess, two-and-a-half weeks from now, julie. >> julie: thank you very much. kelly. >> kelly: this fbi announcing a member of the infamous ten most wanted lists has been captured in mexico. and here's a picture of the man -- the men the fbi consider to be the worst of the worst highlighted by none other than usama bin laden and the bureau says, the los angeles gang member can now be pulled from that list, this is video of the fugitive, dancing at a -- we'll see in a moment, that is a still but we have video of him dancing at a town holiday festival in mexico in 2000, there he is there and the fbi says three months earlier, he attacked two los angeles county sheriffs deputies, with an assault rifle. and one was shot in the face and

badly wounded, and so what did it take to bring this fugitive to justice? former assistant director in charge of the fbi, bill gavin joins us now, thanks for joining us this afternoon. good to see you as always. >> kelly, my pleasure. >> kelly: what brought this guy, this fugitive to justice? >> the justice -- once an individual is a fugitive, it usually -- most of the people on the top ten list, kelly, are unlawful flight fugitives, usually go on the list not for a crime that was a federal crime they committed but one that they committed with this jurisdictionses automotive state and municipal governments and for instance now there are four for murder and one murder/kidnap and there is -- just separate robbery, and this only one right now, that is definitely solidly federal, is usama bin laden himself. but, they go on, the top ten list, for -- to publicize not only the faces but the violent nature, the crimes that usually

-- are usually extremely violent than murderers on there now, some killed their families and wife and kids and burned down the house and another killed a woman and two children and tried to burn their bodies and just the violent nature of the crimes and the fbi becomes involved under the unlawful flight to avoid prosecution statute, for the most part. >> kelly: what kind of resources went in to tracking this guy down? >> well, kelly, ever, single office in the united states will -- fbi office will open a top ten file on the individual once they reach top ten and they follow all of the leads, within 24 hours. anything that comes in, that appears to be a lead to apprehend the individual, and, one has to remember, right now, that we have a number -- 60 or so overseas offices, of course a number in mexico, and they also send out leads to those places as well. the fact that he was arrested in mexico, if somehow, if they

don't send him back, it might be because the united states has capital punishment, that he might be involved in but for the most part, we'll work that out and the individual will come back to stand trial. >> kelly: obviously he committed a brazen, violent ac, shooting a police -- act, shooting a police officer in his face and how do you compare and contrast him to the other members on the top ten wanted list that we are looking at there? it is more of a contrast than comparison, he's a little different individual and didn't kill anybody but that doesn't dilute the seriousness of the crimes. he shot a law enforcement officer in the face, and he was a member of a gang, a violent gang, in los angeles, and so i'm sure they'll be glad to have him back and when look at the other individuals, usama bin laden is on the list but he's not on that list based on the 9/11, he's on that list because he was relatively unknown, when the bombings of the embassies in

tanzania and kenya occurred and that is why he went on the list and the conditionalliy additio been added -- >> kelly: the other thing -- i'm sorry. be i didn't mean to interrupt you. >> the other individuals are on the list because they may be known locally, for instance, whitey bolger is known extremely well in boston but may not be known nationwide or worldwide and there is an indication he's fled the u.s. and they might be known locally but not -- in order to increase the awareness of everybody the violent violence of the crime and fact they fled, usually puts them on the top ten list after a certain amount of time. >> kelly: with the capture of this guy, when do you put another name on the list and talk about the top ten and now you have the top nine and there is probably someone who will be a candidate for the top ten most wanted list, if you want to say that? >> i would say, kelly, sometime within this coming week, there

will be another individual added to the top ten, it's not like the bureau roy waits for somebody to be caught an thinks about that, i think they do a pretty good job of prioritizing individuals, who are wanted, who have warn out for their arrest and unlawful flight warrants have them ready to go right behind them and i would suspect that within a week this fbi will have the -- another name on the top ten list. >> it is always good the fbi gets their man and a bad guy off the streets. so, that he doesn't go forward in a -- endangering the public any further and thank you for your report and update as always, sir, former assistant director in charge of the fbi, bill gavin. thank you. >> thank you, kelly. >> julie: for military veterans returning home from kol bat adjusting to civilian life -- combat adjusting to civilian life can be wrought with problems and often contributing to behavioral problems and now two states are making exceptions for veterans who commit nonviolent offenses. but, is a separate system of

justice for some really fair? casey steegel live in los angeles, to explain, this is an interesting story, casey? >> reporter: it really. >> chris: and you know, the veterans' courts are modeled after drug courts, that have sprouted up in cities all across the country and for the last several years we've heard a lot 0 reporting about the success of those programs. and, that is really where this idea was born and the idea is essentially twofold, to not only provide legal surfaces for veterans, but, also -- everses for veterans but for -- who commit nonviolent crimes but also help to unclog over crowded courtrooms we hear so much about and judges will use a softer criminal justice approach to rehabilitate off offenders not incarcerate them and nevada and illinois, just passed the legislation and, cities like anchorage, alaska car, and buffalo, new york are already doing night the legislatures look at this and say are therest special groups out there of

people, because of a consequence they were involved in, that should not necessarily be treated differently, but may be given some type of preemptive opportunity, because of what they did, and served our country. >> reporter: now, the recent study by the rand corporation, found that roughly 1/5 of veterans, 20%, involved in combat, experience ptsd or post-traumatic stress disorder when they return home. proponents of veterans courts say that ailment makes them more likely to commit crimes but opponents argue the concept sets up a two-tier system of justice. >> if you have for example two people who are arrested for, say public drunkenness, sharing a bottle and getting drunk, one is a veteran and that person goes to this court and the other is not a veteran and goes to that court and that is not really the way we do things here. we have one system of justice, for all. >> reporter: now, much of the

cost to set up the court will be funded through federal tax dollars and 20 other legal systems around the country are also considering a very similar plan. julie? >> julie: all right, casey steegel, thank you very much. kelly? >> kelly: hi above the earth, the crew aboard shuttle endeavour working with cutting-edge robotic technology and what they may really need now, a plunger. we'll explain, later! aspercreme heat gel. powerful medicine delivers fast relief without odor. aspercreme-break the grip of pain.

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wokking on getting him to safety. san francisco transit authorities, looking the at the human error as a possible cause in the delicious of two light rail trains yesterday and 48 people were taken to hospitals, 4 with severe injuries. and, islamic conference, raising security concerns here in the u.s., an extremist group with suspected ties to al qaeda, holding their meeting outside of chicago today. they are calling for the fall of capitalism, and the rise of islam. >> julie: president obama's health care reform plan making republicans and a few democrats cringe at the price tag, administration officials and leading republicans all talking to sunday talk shows, to make their case, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell signify republicans support the idea of change the health care system, just not a complete overhaul. >> we all agree it is not the most efficient way to provide health care, to find somebody

only in the emergency room, and then pass those costs onto those who are paying for insurance. so, it is important, i think, to reduce the number of uninsured this, question is, what is the best way to do that. >> julie: with any plan you want to look at the fine print and the president could end up wielding the axe when it comes to new taxes, just around the time of the next election, joining me now, jonathan allen from cqpolitics.com and it is interesting how you use the words "fine print" in the script here, considering the whole stimulus package and i wonder if congressmen and women read the fine print in that bill, i would say no, they didn't and we'll read behind the fine print, in the particular health care plan. there is a lot going on behind the front lines in the health care battle people don't know about and need know about. for instance, there is a provision in the the language of the house bill to give president obama the authority to slap a sur tax on this wealthy and adjust or eliminate it in 2012, tell us about that. >> well, it is interesting,

julie, what congress has done,s has said that if certain savings they expect to see don't materialize, the sur tax that would go to the wealthiest taxpayers would be reviewed by the office of management and budget under the president, not under congress and so, in 2012, actually december of 2012, after the next election, when you could have a lame duck president obama, this office of management and budget will make the determination of whether to double the tax on the wealthy, or adjust it somewhere in between, what it is now or would be under the bill, and, doubling it or eliminate it altogether with the power ned instead of resting with congress to make the taxation decision would rest with the white house and ultimately president obama would essentially get to make the decision, unilaterally. >> julie: basically, obama, could raise or cut those taxes without congressional input, right? when he's up for re-election? >> actually right after he's up for re-election, which may be something that is a little more alarming because the public will

have decided, either to put him back in office or put somebody else back in office, and you could see him enact a tax increase after being booted from office, if that what happens in 2012, or, if he is reelected of course the people put some of the faith in him though it is still an unusual session of power from congress which is generally the tax writing power under the constitution, to the president and the way they do it is write into the law that he can make that decision or omb can make the decision, so, i think they believe that is actually constitutional, by giving him that power. >> so some of the conservative centrist blue dog democrats are making it clear they are not happy with obama-care as it stands, and, it raises the question of the blue dog dems, are going to be the respectful proposition to the white house, and maybe even join the republicans. >> typically the blue dog democrats have a little bit more bark than bite and tend to hold up the process, a little bit to get concessions for things they

wanted. and now, they are really unhappy with this overall costs of the bills, a trillion dollars and most paid for with the tax on the wealthy and expected efficiencies in medicare and medicaid and the congressional budget office scored a $239 billion deficit from the bill over ten years and although there was budget gimmickry and they may get rid of that and the blue dogs are upset over the cost and there are freshmen who are not happy owe ksz taxes will be raised on the wealthy and a lot of them come from districts with a lot of wealthy people. >> julie: jonathan allen, thank you very much, appreciate it. >> always my pleasure, julie. >> kelly: from trolleys to trains, it seems lately there is one crash after the other and some of them have had deadly ruts, is something wrong with america's transit system? what is going on out there and needs to be done to keep you safe? we find out, straight ahead. insuring your family's ifs can be confusing,

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>> i'm meteorologist domenica davis and we're still dealing

with the heat out to the southwest and heat warnings continue until 8:00 local time and look at the temperatures, these are currently readings, now, and, as we move through the encino area, burbank, california temperatures over 100 degrees and really get bad and the further in you move and right along the i-10 corridor we're looking at the hottest temperatures, even over 110 in plenty of places, now the heat breaks tomorrow, and that is the good news, and temperatures will go back to reality, in the mid to upper 90s but we won't see too many temperatures over the 100-degree mark and further into the east, that is where we are dealing with a more active weather pattern, not so much the heat but is the humidity and the moisture coming up from the gulf is firing up some thunderstorms, and yesterday we saw the same picture with thunderstorm watch box, through parts of new mexico, that go all the way into colorado and parts of texas, and then, the one over here, further east in texas that includes dallas, and thunderstorm watch, both of these areas will go until 9:00 local time, and with any storms are hail and mainly

strong, gusty winds and that's the latest from the fox weather center, i'm meteorologist domenica davis. >> julie: the bottom of the hour, time for the top of the news, investigators now looking at mechanical and human errors as a possible cause of the rail collision in san francisco yesterday. this is the third major crash in the country since may and we'll investigate the safety of america's transit systems. >> kelly: and governor mark sanford apologizing again after admitting to a scandalous aaffair and writing in and op-ed piece god is changing him. >> julie: think you have food laerjsz, thinks again, why you may not have to ditch your favorite foods like peanuts and chocolate any month, that and more later in the hour. >> kelly: in the meantime at this moment america's heartland, islamic extremist group with reported ties to al qaeda, is holding a news conference, calling for the fall of

capitalism, and the rise of an islamic empire. and the organization is not recognized by the state department as a terror group but some terrorism experts say it may be even more dangerous, than many groups on the terror list, joining us now, fox news terrorism analyst, walid ferris, thanks for joining you, always good to see you. >> sure. >> kelly: why should the u.s. be concerned about the particular group? >> kelly, what is more dangerous, than the terrorists are the ones who create and produce the terrorists. since 1953, they have been indoctrinating hundreds of thousands of individuals, crediting a pool of pure jihadists, actually from which organizations such as al qaeda, hamas, and nif, jamal islamiyah have been recruiting and taking

them into combat and is part of the chain that produces terror, but they -- >> hizb-ut-tahrir, they have reported ties to khalid sheikh mohammed and zarqawi and when you look at that indoctrination they allegedly have with those groups, what are your concerns what they might be doing on u.s. soil? is it a part of homegrown terrorism many people fear. >> well, for them to hold a public event like this one, even if they have held before, few other events, for them to say now they are going to be strategically working in the u.s., it means at least two things, number one, they feel comfortable and feel neither the public or the media or the government is aware of their activity, that think that by the slogans, what is better economically for the world and, now, all the other slogans they throw, they are going to be accepted and the other hand it

means this is the tip the iceberg, the organization is much bigger than what we think. >> kelly: it would appear they have grown more bold as well, walid, because, today's seminar which they are holding is entitled, and i'm quoting here "the fall of capitalism and the rise of islam." what should the average american read into that? i don't want to castigate islam but at the same time what should one consider this type of slogan to mean? >> this is a decoy slogan, what they really mean in their literature for the last many decade, didn't change it overnight, is there should be a fall of democracy, not just capitalism and the rise, not of islam, because islam exists but of jihadism and they are slowing the slogan to say they are part of the debate about economics, and you know, religion and reality, they are ideological movements, creating one of the largest pools of the jihadists and have been there before al qaeda and will survive al qaeda. >> kelly: and we have seen examples and evidence of the fact some people who convert to

islam and are -- it is really indoctrination processes that take place, that puts them into gee addism, is that correct? who is doing the indoctrination? >> and absolutely. and we have been wondering kelly, many months and every time we dismantle a jihadist cell at least since '01 if not before who is doing this indoctrination and now you have this answer and this is one of the organizations whose full purpose is to create that pool as i said from which either an individual, should they be american citizens, nonamerican citizens, home-grown or even international al qaeda, will recruit from and take into action. >> kelly: and the conference is going on today as we speak, the fall of capitalism, the rise of islam, wa he'd phares, our fox news terrorism analyst sharing insights on this important group today. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> julie: makeshift memorials at the scene of friday's deadly bombings in jakarta, mourners placing flowers outside the

luxury hotels targeted in the blast and terror experts are combing through the evidence, they have yet to name a suspect, it is believed, however, a terrorist with ties to al qaeda is the master mind of the attacks that killed 9 people and injured dozens more including americans. and live in jakarta, what is this latest on the information? >> reporter: julie, police now have a gruesome task of trying to reconstruct the faces of the suicide bombers. this is their way of trying to figure out exactly who was behind the attack and are hoping maybe hotel employees might be able to recognize one of these suicide bombers, in marriott room 1808, believed to -- where police say is where the bombs were constructed and most of the planning was taken place and want to know for certain if jamal islamiyah was behind it and if they can identify the bombing suspects they can help close the deal on the suspects. >> julie: where does the investigation go from here? they have no one in custody.

but, they believe al qaeda is involved, and where do they go next? >> reporter: well, they do believe there is a malaysian man behind all of this, who is linked to past attacks as well, the explosives they picked up from this particular scene, they said, just a couple of days earlier was picked up from a different location as well as indonesia and that is how they are making the connection, but now, the focus, really, julie, that wants to be able to say with 100% certainty what group was behind it, and, the other question, julie, how did these bombers get into the hotel, how were they successfully able to execute these bombings attacks, because you have to remember, these were considered the two most secure hotels in all of jakarta, and police really want to find out how were they able to pass security measures, construct those bombs and set them off in the hotels, julie. >> julie: in jakarta, thank you so much, kelly. >> kelly: secretary of state hillary clinton facing resistance in india. as she rushes a plan -- pushes,

rather, a plan to fight climate change. india and, standing firm against demands to accept liptsz on carbon emissions, and insisting it has among the lowest emissions per capita in the world. clinton told reporters she is optimistic about getting a climate change deal that will satisfy the country. >> you know, there is a troubling series of railway crashes across the country these days and sparking serious safety concerns from yesterday's horrific crash in san francisco. dozens of passengers taken away in stretchers after two light rails collided. to the nation's capitol, where a metro crash last month, left nine people dead. plus, just this week, a long island railroad driver now in big trouble, apparently the driver of the train accused of allowing a passenger to drive the train. what in the heck is going on with america's transit system and are we safe, to answer that, let's bring in communications

director for the american public transportation association, montel williams, and i know you will tell us, it is safe, in fact, riding the rail is 29 times safer than traveling by auto, light truck or suv. i believe it is safe and iel feel more safe on a train than a plane, i can tell you that much, but, what is going snon i mean, what is the transit system doing wrong and why are drivers being blamed and human error blamed for so many of these accidents? >> well, i think righted now, particularly, with the -- two of the incidents we are talking about, the san francisco muni as well that's d.c. metro area, we don't know exactly the cause of those particular things and we don't know if there is a direct correlation and we know with this one in boston it was definitely human error and the d.c. system, they a looking at possible mechanical errors with the san francisco muni which operates on both automatic and a manual train control system, we're not sure exactly what the

causes are, so at this point, it is hard to make that leap to say if they are connected in any way or there is a correlation to this. >> julie: one report came out they saw the operator of the train, the one that was in the back, that crashed into the other light rail train, slumped over, appeared to possibly be sleeping. and if something was wrong with his health, we probably would have heard about that. correct? >> yes, i think so. what happens usually in the situation is they look for two types of problems and number one, look for of course human error because, like i said the san francisco muni system does operate in manual as well as automatic and they also look for something in terms of technical error. and the -- the muni system has a number of levels of safety in terms of train control systems with in the track as well as, of course, the driver itself, and them, also, an overall control system ands you mentioned before to keep it in perspective your

viewers should know though we've had a number of incidences, riding on train is 29 times safer and when look at the number of fatalities we have had throughout the year, we've had only 18 fatalities on light rail. >> julie: let me ask you the operator of a train, is there a phone attached to the wall somewhere, where he can then call another train or call the dispatch center, there is a way of communication by a train phone, correct? >> that's correct. all of the systems have some way to communicate, if there is an emergency situation, either there is a phone there or have one on their person. >> julie: and there should be no reason why any train driver should carry a cell phone. i mean, at this point, we have heard of stories where people are actually text messaging, while driving, and in the case of -- one of the cases where somebody allowed a passenger into the train, sort of like an airplane, i don't think a passenger should be allowed into the cockpit of a plane nor should they be allowed to be at the front of the train where the driver. >> chris: why are cell phones not being banned from these

train systems, don't they see there is a repeated sort of problem here with text messaging per se? >> well, i think, transit systems are taking this very seriously, as you said, the incident that happened in boston, that particular person was not only let go from their job but also were prosecuted. so, we definitely take safety very seriously and it is our number one priority and some system is already implemented -- >> julie: will they ban cell phones, do you think that is something they'll do. >> yes, some systems have already done that, already banned it and some have gotten to the point where there is like a one-strike-you are out sort of a rule and systems are take it seriously. >> julie: one strike and you're out when it involves a train accident and involves passengers you don't want a one strike, want zero strikes and i mean -- >> i mean, just having -- i mean, just having the cell phone itself, on you or even just being -- being caught using it, that is -- they are taking it very seriously.

>> julie: thank you very much, mantill williams and obviously it affects all of us and kill, you board a train every sunday. >> kelly: quite a bit, heading back to d.c. today and pretty down to earth problems now, affecting -- afflicting astronauts in outer space and one of the toilets on board the international space station is breaking down, not the best time for it to be down, because, the space lab is packed with 13 astronauts on board. and now that the shuttle endeavor is docked there. and the shuttle crew using a -- endeavor's bathroom in the meantime and the toilet issue, coming as astronauts conduct complicated work outside the station, using a robotic arm. south carolina governor mark sanford offering an apology of sorts, today, rooid writing an op-ed piece telling the people of his state he's sorry for letting them down and how does a governor plan to ask forgiveness for his actions? these are tough questions. that's why we brought together two of the most

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>> julie: a heartbreaker at the british open. just a month-and-a-half shy of his 60th birthday, tom watson almost won the event for the 6th time. oh, so close! but missing the ten-foot putt, cost him huge. it forced watsdz son into a fourth hole playoff with the winner, stewart cink. is that how you say it, thank goodness and won the playoff by 6 shots after watson's driving an club selection let him down and gave cink the first major championship of his career, and, you know what is amazing, is tiger woods didn't even qualify for the british open. >> kelly: didn't make the cut. >> julie: and this guy about to turn 06 years oiled is better than tiger woods, that is in my mind, won the bishop open. >> julie: he's one of the best and was staying in the tom watson suite at the hotel, that is how good highs and something else going on that is not good for the south carolina governor, that is mark sanford. skipping this year's national

governor's association meeting in biloxi, mississippi, but he is continuing to make headlines, thanks to an op-ed piece that he wrote for a south carolina newspaper. sanford apologizing for his extramarital affair, and saying to the people of his state, quote, while none of us has the chance to attend our own funeral, in many ways i feel like i was at my own in the past weeks, and sizingly i am thankful for the perspective it has afforded. jonathan serrie is live in biloxi, mississippi no now and what does the op-ed lead us to believe about his future plans and he said he wanted to write everyone individually but this is the only way he could do it. >> reporter: it suggests he has no plans of stepping down in the op-ed which appeared in the local newspaper in columbia, south carolina. the governor speaks about the remaining 18 months, in office. and he is term-limited and has a year-and-a-half left in that office. and apparently no plans to step down, however, he says, this

embarrassment has turned him into a more contrite an humble person, and, he goes onto suggest that he is going to use that, in his future deelgsz with state law m-- dealings with sta lawic makers -- lawmakers, many of whom he has butted heads in the past and carol fowler-the-the chairman of the south carolina democratic party issued a written response and refers to sanford's apology as half-heart and vague. and she goes onto write, when her own children were younger, when they would apologize she'd also require them to explain exactly what it was they did wrong. and, she says that in sanford's op-ed, he fails to do that. fails to explain exactly what it is he is apologizing for. >> kelly: i read that and i thought that he had apologized. but, we'll see. that is her... that is her take on it. thanks very much, jonathan. >> julie: millions of americans suffer from food allergies, are

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>> julie: all right we have been hearing a lot about allergies, seems like everybody, almost

everyone, any way, at least has one food allergy, and now, some allergists are taking a new look and finding that many people are being diagnosed familiesly for allergies, to certain foods, and that means, you could actually be eating them and e enjoying them and not only their taste but health an nutritional benefits as well. >> kelly: the question is how can you know what is right for you and you don't want an alleging, reaction, right? but you do want a fully balanced diet and dr. dennis goodman, clinical associate professor at nyu and member of the new york medical associates joins us live and you mean someone could be avoiding peanuts an shell fish and could be eating it because they are not allergic to it. >> and firstly what is allergy, it is an exaggerated reaction to products that are usually not harmful. and then the exaggerated reaction can be very mild, a runny nose or it could be just something where you feel a little bit congested or it can go on to be what we call

anaphylaxis that can be a drop in blood pressure and can be serious and the problem is, we are finding out too many people are diagnosed with allergies when they don't really have it and a study came out in march that looked at children, 125 american with 63 allergies, and so these kids, were told, they were told, all sorts of foods they can't eat and what they did is exposed them slowly in a controlled way to these foods and found out, there was a 90% reduction in the actual amount of food they were allergic to and, so, it turn out these kids, like we told you, you can't eat this between 4 and 20 ingredients were added to their diet. >> julie: i don't understand how people are misdiagnosed with food allergies in the first place and some of the reactions and symptoms to shell fish allergies or peanuts allergies are very severe, and, you know, we have' friend who works here in the audio department who suffered an anaphylactic attack because of cleaning a knife that had peanut butter on it and suffered an attack and if you are exposed to multiple

exposures of peanuts and have a peanut allergy is that something that can trigger this sort of attack and are the symptoms severe in all cases, and what are the doctors doing in misdiagnosing the patients. >> is a good question an thirst thing, there are 3.5 million americans who say they are allergic to peanuts or tree nuts and that doesn't mean they will all of anna flaksz which can be fatal and the blood pressure drops off and difficulty breathing and it means some people exposed to nuts have various reactions and something that you should be under the supervision of a doctor and dealing with the physician and saying, do i need to absolutely stay away from these altogether, and some people are so allergic if they get contact with the skin, of a peanut they will have an allergic reaction and those people need an action plan and needed to know, if they get exposed to peanuts by mistake they can get into trouble. >> kelly: okay, it raises the question, then as a parent, what is a parent to do then if a

doctor says, don't allow your child to come near peanuts. >> i think the most important thing, how is that diagnosed? we are finding today, the tests for these allergies, skin tests and blood tests are not very accurate. and actually only one in four of these allergens are real allergies and so, what we are doing today are people who do this, allergists and immune knowledges slowly expose people to the products and see if they have a reaction and in a controlled situation, you can see -- >> there is a better way of testing, then, doctor, we thank you. >> julie: thank you very much, interesting. some can't even imagine doing it and just the thought sends chills down the spine. but this guy, spent the day soaring through the air, trying to break a skydiving record. did he do it? and how many jumps does it take any way, that is next.

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