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i woo love to thank anna, as always, delightful. bill schulz, congratulations on the carrots, don't put them anywhere. and john gibson, always a delight. that does it for me, greg gutfeld, bye bye. captioned by, closed captioning services, inc. at large. coming up we will tell you what we know about a possible grand jury being i am paneled to determine who knew what, where, when about michael jackson's deadly prescription drug abuse. also coulter, powers and morris debate where the g -- whether the gop has thrown in the towel over sotomayor's certain confirmation to the high court. does kennedy count the harry potter big box office amid allegations the movie may be driving witch craft from the big screen to mainstream. but up front tonight one of the world's most brazilian conspiracy theories the moon landing the 40th anniversary we are all celebrating this weekend was actually fake.
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dismissed for years by almost every clear thinking observer the theory has gained momentum especially five years ago when nasa admitted it had lost the original footage of man's first steps on the moon the breath taking event seen live by 600 million of us back in july 1968. >> one small step foreman, one giant leap for mankind. >> it was all recorded on these tapes. where is this hard evidence? >> i haven't seen anything that indicates the data is in existence. even if we have it we don't have machines to play it back. >> your own research the data is missing? >> that's right. >> even given the traditional incompetence of government the
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state agency's improbable claims the tapes had been erased or reused certainly founded fishy. taped over? come on. this wasn't a wedding or bar mitzvah. it was the original video recording the biggest news event in 2,000 years. >> in that lost tape story brought to mind movies like the 1978 capri corn one. >> this is cap ry corn one we have landed. >> o.j. simpson as one of several astronauts who fake a moon landing on a hollywood sound stage. >> only one small cash it never happened. it's all a lie. a fantastic $30 billion hoax. >> the moon hoax faded in recent years over shadowed by more immediate conspiracy theories involving the death of princess diana and even bigger claim that 911 wassen inside job.
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that one is red hot. it's so emotional they tried last year they tried to interrupt one of our outdoor shows to make this point. if you hear the shouting it's a group of demonstrators. 9-11 was an inside job. get a life. get a life. 9-11 was an inside job. >> then nasa enadd vertly brought the story back to life when to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the moon landing the space agency released what it called enhanced and digitally remastered copies of the original television recording spoed he h supposedly found in an australian tracking station it showed the moment as neil armstrong's first step on the surface. buzz all dren's dissent down the ladder and raising of the u.s. flag. >> the scene was so totally unlike this it probably hadn't
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changed much in the years. the sun goes over and it gets colder. it's not a hospitable place. you have to really have a very compelling reason to invest in habitation. >> you are the one who said you walked on the moon when you didn't calling the kettle black. >> you get it away from me. >> you are a coward and a liar. >> oh, pretty good right hook there by buzz aldrin. i want to talk to mark. i said 678, it's 69. he was punched in the face by buzz aldrin. the second man to walk on the moon. he joins us from nashville, welcome. we have an open line here. what is your strongest evidence that the moon landing was actually a gigantic hoax? >> well i think your viewers
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should go to u tube and watch a funny thing happened on the way to the moon. they have null think discovered evidence of outtakes to the first mission to the moon and falsifying the shot of being halfway to the moon. you have to ask yourself if it flew across the atlantic in 1927 would it be 50 years before any one of any nation on earth flew across the atlantic in an airplane. we are so easy to go to the moon 40 years ago there would be bases there by now united states, germany, china. >> you are saying and it is an argument that has some rez thens if the machine landing was possible 40 years ago why haven't we replicated it? often from the initial landings between 69 and 72 is that your basic point? >> that's one of the points. first of all we saw never before footage of the faking part of the photography which is on a funny thing happened on the way to the moon that can be viewed
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on youtube. >> there's no star sz in the original video, couldn't that be a function of the fact that the video was not enhanced not digitally remastered even the quality we can see loss of quality sometimes with satellite transmissions? >> well, their excuse there are no pictures of the stars was the iris was closed is true. they posted no pictures of the stars by themselves in an exposure setting perfect for them. they never took a telescope because they weren't there and they had no way of faking the constellations. >> were they in hollywood? >> they were probably at a military base. >> new mexico maybe? >> well, you know, you say you are open-minded. >> i am listening. i am absolutely listening. >> have you seen the movie? >> i don't go to the movies very often. >> the fake photography.
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>> i haven't. we will show everybody whatever we have. let me bring on somebody to assist you. my next guest started believing the official version of history which is what i and most people believe. but interestingly enough, let me interrupt myself and in 1999 when they took a gallop poll of whether or not americans felt the moon landing was fake 6 percent. only 6 percent said they thought it was fake. in 2005, 2006 another survey done of young people, those who have witnessed the landing found almost 25 percent of young people 18 to 35 believe -- 25 percent believe the moon landing was fake. of the youngsters. that is quite a substantial number. one of those converts to believing -- disbelieving the moon landing is my next guest when he heard about the erased tapes five years ago he became suspicious the united states
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engineered what was a gigantic hoax as cold war propaganda. here is his confrontation with old pal buzz. watch. >> buzz aldrin the second human being to allegedly walk on the moon. >> where were you july 20th, 1969? >> i was on the moon. >> i want you to swear on the bible that you walked on the moon. if you walked on the moon we are giving you an opportunity to swear on the bible that you walked on the moon. >> you are dealing with the wrong guy. talk to the administrator of nasa. (inaudible) >> you are going to be on the deck if you don't get out. >> anyway, aaron, tell us why you have changed your mind and now become a sceptic?
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>> sure. thanks for having me on geraldo. i really appreciate it. let me first clarify, i was paid by the state of ohio in 1999 to spend a year trying to prove we actually landed on the moon. i was a total believer -- >> you were paid with tax payer money from the state of ohio? >> from the state of ohio. >> go ahead tell us more. >> i took a year and i traveled across the country. folks i have posted on youtube called "did we go"? the challenges, geraldo, every where i went it was amazing blue rocks falling in antarctica, kneel armstrong silenced. i was the first to report you played the clip earlier all of the science data was missing. geraldo, for nasa to come up and say all of the tapes were erased this is incredible. this isn't just one tape. this is rolls of tape labeled apollo 11 moon landing.
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someone has to physically go and erase it. it just -- i really in my heart, geraldo. i want us to go. all of you viewers want us to go. if you watch my film over and over again i don't know if you have a dlip of me razor ranged off the moon. it turns out the russians landed all of these unmanned probes on the moon with laser reflectors. the challenge of trying to prove it are great. i hope we landed on the moon but come on, geraldo. >> we are joined in l.a. by bill nye the science guide educator engineer he contributes to the sceptic magazine which might be appropriate for this topic. aron is right about re -- erasing the tapes. how in the world do you erase the tapes of the most historic event in 2,000 years. it's not like it was a bar mitzvah.
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you know what i mean? >> let me start and say what tape are you showing if all of the tapes were erased. >> they lost them for five years they were in australia and they were enhancing those. >> i can -- it's my turn, kids. >> what happened apparently is they lost one tape it was in australia which is part of the deep space network. these are nasa tapes literally on the other side of the world from headquarters. one of them got misplaced. people believed that this tape was of high quality and it got lost. stuff happens. it's four years ago. it does not in any way qualify as evidence that nasa faked it. by the way, i watched both of your youtube videos. remarkably uncompelling. i got to tell you. hardly any evidence at all there for me that the stuff was faked.
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by the way -- why would you -- >> mark you want a quick rebuttal? >> well basically every single tv tape from every single moon mission is locked. ask ron howard. he could be transferred for 70 millimeter -- 95 percent of it is re-enactments. >> final statement? >> let me build a big picture. >> not a big picture now. it's very challenging to try to prove we landed on the moon and it shouldn't be challenging. the tape should be there there should be plenty of evidence. >> bill, you are the one guy in the panel who hasn't been punched by buzz aldrin. you say buzz and his buddies are telling the truth. >> absolutely. >> evidence overwhelmingly?
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>> think about it all of the sailors on the aircraft carriers who watched the thing come back. the thousands of people -- >> their story they were in a transport airplane through the thing out of the transport airplane and landed. want to thank the panel. coming up with defections within its own rank has the gop. have they ended the battle of sonia sotomayo (announcer) imagine one eye drop so exceptional, it relieves seven symptoms. new visine totality multi-symptom. now reduce the red; bathe the dry and gritty; soothe the itch, irritated, burning and watery. visine totality. no other drop does more.
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exercise in roll playing with the republicans return to go the various speeches extolling the virtues of being a wise latinos the democrats fawning all over obama's pick for the high court. al frank encracking pretty barned funny jokes. essentially told the senators to read what she said in court not what she said on college campuses and by the end of the week you had at least 3 republican senators signaling further resistance was futile you had snow and martinez in florida more understandable than the others all of them republicans all of them saying they will be voting for confirmation which may even come before the summer recess. my panel dick morris new york times current number one best selling book "catastrophe" ann coulter a bunch of best sellers, kirsten powers syndicated
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columnist and fox news political analyst. let me start with you. obama 56 percent. he is not directly on the target year. he is down 6 percent from the average he has had up until then. >> they are probably concerned about it but it's not terrifically surprising either. he is trying to do so much. i think people are getting stirred about the deficit. they are concerned about if already all of the talk about raising taxes. it is concerning a lot of democrats. democrats are fight being it. i think they are going to have to probably take a look at this again and think about what they are talking about. >> yes, the one area where he seems to sit a home run is judge sonia sotomayor and with i predict 80 votes in favor of confirmation. >> first of all i am a little insulted you said the hearings were boring. this is my michael jackson
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deaths. >> is that true? >> yes. i had to wait for the replays in the evening and could not get a minute of them. >> i don't have a job. i was playing them during the day. how can you say, he had 60 democrats in the senate. okay conch grat layings -- congratulations you had the vote before the hearings started. >> look at chris christine the guy is running well as governor four republican in new jersey. he endorsed sotomayor. >> even the democrats in the senate were not trying to turn this into an expanding thing geraldo. you guys, democrats shot down -- >> i am a registered republican. >> shot down miguel he is straw dau. that's not going to fly right now. they got sotomayor to back away
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from the wise latino comment from obama's empathy comment. the republicans accomplished a lot in these hearings. lot in these hearings. >> harry hits i
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president obama: i took a trip to elkhart, indiana, today. elkhart's a place that has lost jobs faster than anywhere else in america. the unemployment rate went from 4.7% to 15.3%. in fact, local tv stations have started running public service announcements that tell people where to find food banks... even as the food banks don't have enough to meet the demand. as we speak, similar scenes are playing out in cities and towns across america.
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>> back live. houston powers lower right, ann coulter lower left. dick is on the top left. here's my theory. nobody wants to talk about the moral scandals sanford, edwards and the rest of it. i believe these recent sex scandals have undermine the moral authority of the conservative family values and has made them less effective in terms of situations like judge
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sotomayor or even opposing president obama on healthcare: >> ridiculous. t sotomayor is part of a strategic play of obama's aimed at solidifying the democratic control over the latino vote. the obvious move is naming sotomayor and getting her confirmed which she ob lull had been. the second part is to pass the health reform which includes illegal immigrants and specifically rejected republicans to barile legal immigrants from getting health he shall us. >> where do you read it includes illegal immigrants. you are inferring something but it's not something i have seen. >> there's nothing that limits. when the bill was introduced an attendment to barile legal immigrants it was rejecteded by the democrats. his concept is -- >> that is an inference you made
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it is not stated in any proposal by any democrat. i want to clarify. >> actually, it is. the congressional budget office said there would still be 17 million illegal immigrants not covered if the bill passes. that has a total of 13, 14 -- >> we digress. >> the point is, you sweeten the pot on this side of the fence so there's an incentive to jump in. the third part is to reap the senses by sampling techniques something you count the illegals from them you count a number -- >> by law they count as residents not citizens. >> what they are going to do is use sampling which is to count people which really aren't there. the fourth part of it is an amnesty legislation to smooth
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their relationship. sotomayor -- healthcare they jump a fence to come into the country. >> we got it. you are making an emotional plea to the immigrant crowd there, dick. (talking over one another) >> the handwriting is on the wall. >> can i give you my theory on this, please? i am jumping out of my skin to make this point. i think the precise reason obama nominated her is because he wants anonymianonymity. >> not making it a priority. >> this is the bone. whatever you can say about obama and as you know i disagree with everything he stands for, but he is not a stupid man. he is not going to push amnesty like the candidate my party raised. >> kristen rebuttal. >> i don't think he was ever supporting amnesty. but i don't think that was --
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president obama: i took a trip to elkhart, indiana, today. elkhart's a place that has lost jobs faster than anywhere else in america. in fact, local tv stations have started running public service announcements that tell people where to find food banks... even as the food banks don't have enough to meet the demand.
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your awatching america's news headquarters. i'm lauren sivan. the u.s. military condemning a taliban video of a.b an army private held captive in afghanistan. the pentagon calling the video of bowe bergdahl a violation of international law. he was last scene walking away from the base near the pakistan border. he says he misses his family and he is scared he won't be able to come back home. the ntsb announcing a preliminary cause for the light rail crash in san francisco. witnesses say one train barreled into another one. saturday's crash injuring
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dozens of people, four of them seriously. the operator in the rear train had switched the controls to automatic to manual before he should have. i'm lauren sivan. we now head back to "geraldo at large" right here on fox. rale. >> it's official harry potter and the half blood prince is the all time worldwide opening week box office champion grossing almost $400 million since its debut on wednesday breaking the record set in 200and by spider-man 3. this is the 6th film in the series they have generated $4.6 million. what impact is it having on real life? doug kennedy investigating the
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problem, voo ddoo. >> voo doo has been a popular religion for decades. dark rituals involving dancing, animal sacrifice, exorciexorcis. seen here on a recent documentary from national geographic. >> go ahead and speak. what is the reason? >> it's the last ritual that's become increasingly popular in the united states. it possibly led to the death of 21-year-old hamilton in the quiet neighborhood of new jersey. >> this has to stop. they have a web site and people coming from all over the place who do this voo doo ritual stuff. >> hamilton who was transgender came all of the way from little rock ark stau to get rid of her male tendencies in this so-called cleansing ceremony according to investigators. it is eerily similar to another
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exorcism recently caught on tape. in this disturbing youtube video a 16-year-old boy consulses on the ground as the reverend attempts to cure him of being gay. homosexuality isn't the only reason some americans are turning to voo doo which is featured regularly on the wildly popular hbo series "true blood." >> i think he got his first vampire. >> recently arrested a grandmother and mother in queens for trying to dede mondayize a girl. police arrested a couple for kelling their infant allegedly trying to beat bad spirits out of her. >> (inaudible) >> crazy stuff. doug kennedy joins me live. is there any proof of a causal
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connection with harry potter or true blood? >> harry potter there's a lot of criticism of harry potter. most don't believe there's anything that offensive. "true blood" on the other hand does the work of the ocult for them. >> what do you mean by that? >> watch the opening that they have this season where they enter me think ellery lig gous images mostly christian crosses churches with extreme extreme violence and sex. this is basically how the o occt indoctrinates people into the occult by making them de sanctify religious images. >> as a good dad as i know you are would you council parents not to let their kids watch it? >> to tem you the truth it is a great show has great writing great actors but i don't even know if they know what they are
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doing but if they do it's really disturbing. >> dpoug ken -- doug kennedy, thanks. this is a fox news alert. we have obtained exclusive court documents that seem to prove that michael jackson's doctors before not only writing prescriptions to him in phony names they were also using their own patients to get pills for the king of pop. here are some of the documents from the police investigation of jackson between 2003 and 2004. all of these police enter views were done in conjunction with jackson, 2005 child molestation trial. we have gone through and chosen a representative sample before i introduce our panel. this report contains information regarding a note worth the celebrity and is considered highly con if i den sham. it is not for viewing or release. next item. this is from one of jackson's body guards.
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his name is -- i got it right here. michael laperruque a retired la sergeant. he explained one of the doctors, invite the jackson to stay ate his house in miami and he was made to stay in the converted garage. laperruque stated that he fetal he was unethical when asked why he hesitate to do say he may have been over prescribing medication. this is another chris carter another body guard when asked if he picked up any prescriptions for jackson he said he had. under what name were they under? usually chris carter. when asked if any other doctors prescribed medication for jackson he said yes. going on with the chris carter testimonial. jackson drank red and white line would usually be poured into pepsi or cocaines he did this so
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his children would not know he was drinking. he wentsed jackson drinking. he said michael jackson cold wine jesus juice. carter went on to say carter was asked according to the cops if he knew michael jackson could take prescription drugs he said he would get xanax prescriptions under fictitious names including carter's own name. others would do the same. he added jackson was taking 10 plus zahn -- xanax pills a night. he was down to 30-40 xanax pills a night. carter described the situation in florida where jackson and joey jepop another jackson security detail were alone in a hotel. he fell on his face learned he was intoxicated, hurt himself. carter said he later folk with jackson about an hour about his
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drug problem. he denied he had a drug problem. he said he wasn't comfortable getting him prescriptions he said he would be believing d -- leaving due to the conflict. -- >> with me in the studios stewart backerman the former michael jackson publicist and friend. robin sax in l.a. former district attorney. journalist journalling janeane fiero what do you think about the documents just read to you. would you consider this probative in terms of a criminal indictment? >> without a doubt. there's no question michael jackson was being given drugs and there's no way they could be legitimately prescribed just for him. doctors would have needed to use other names other vehicles other vessels through they could get judges from the pharmacy. we will know whether or not he actually died on the drug
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overdose and whether or not someone is responsible for that as well. i think we know from the anna nicole case that doctors are taking care of celebrities and getting the drugs illegally. they will be prosecuted in the new culture change as well they should. >> former prosecutor, we are hearing that la county is contemplating a grand jury to take the doctors before a grand jury. does this ring true to you? >> it does ring true. they do not file cases traditionally by grand jury they are usually by criminal complaints and preliminary he s hearin hearings. we viewed cases in the los angeles da has hit the case first. phil spector being the most
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recent case. >> judge, would you approve and would you recommend the county to move in that will direction? i think they are going to arrest the first doctor separately but i think there will be a big grand jury they will get the lawn relist of doctors. i don't have time. i have more information about the doctors. >> these doctors are going downtown. we saw when elvis presley died of drugs nothing was done. anna nicole we opened up the gates of hell. these prosecutors the police are looking at it. these doctors are being investigated as we speak now. there will be indictments and they may use the grand rapids jury. they are a -- grand jury. >> meaning what? >> meaning this is what should be done the feds are going to be knee deep. these doctors are shaking in their boots right now. they are hiring the best lawyers
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in l.a. some of them are going to get indited some will be facing manslaughter, murder without malice. manslaughter. some will be charged with giving drugs. >> stewart, during your tenure there, did you often or did you at all have any conversations with michael? >> no. i saw the result of his occasional prescription drug use. >> meaning what? >> i saw the glassy eyes. i have a number of michael jackson's fan club saying michael was on drugs please take care of him, et cetera, et cetera. on a couple occasions. >> let me tell you about my experience. i would be with him sometimes when he was totally lucid and reasonable and other times cowering and shivering in the corner with the curtains drawn. do you think that was a function of drug abuse up and down?
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>> i believe it was. many times he was extremely lucid, sensitive having good intentions. other times he was a bit off. that i think was a function of prescription drug use. >> ann halperin we know you have been on this case. do you have any information that dr. zardon is going down? >> two doctors are going down. minimal involuntary manslaughter. other doctors they are looking at nothing is confirmed. they have been the enablers they have drugged up michael jackson for years and years. if nobody goes down this could be a high celebrity profile. >> here's my question to you. how is it that stewart never saw -- i don't need to maim them. closer to that we heard their testimony on it. >> with all due respect -- a lot
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of people, we are forced to sign confidentiality agreements. my sources say that michael jackson was addicted to drugs for so many years. >> judge pirro it is nothing now judge side land suggested water shed events happened here. do you think it's way passed time prescription drug pushers suffer the same penalty and the track. why are question disting bishing they take the hypocratic oath who is giving a legal drug to someone covering up their names and using arm sees to get the jug to them. you have to ask yourself skld any one pay a doctor $150,000 a months. why does michael jackson owe
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even as the food banks don't have enough to meet the demand. as we speak, similar scenes are playing out in cities and towns across america.
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>> we have been unable to confirm the national inquirer story alleging the critical video evidence on the last bonus of michael jackson's life were removed after they searched the la mansion. in my experience the inquirer is
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often first and usually right in its reports. i asked bernard kerik to show us just how it could have happened. >> michael jackson had his elaborate security system in ls angeles. the system is so sophisticated they had cameras in private areas according to the national inquirer. those cameras could have theoretically filmed his death. >> it could have filmed the injections given by the doctor. they could most importantly at this point, they could have captured movement sanitized the area which we believe has happened. >> there's a security expert inside we are going to talk to him. scott tag -- taglia you put in the security system.
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>> if it was a machine like this is vhs machine a plug can be pulled out so there's no electric to the unit or hit the eject button just like a regular vcr. if it's this system it has a hard drive they would have to remove the hard drive to get the information. >> can you read just a particular portion at a time? >> yes. if i installed it the machine would have an access code so only people with the correct access code can access that area. >> has to be something that works with the security firm. >> it would have to be security personnel. >> we have another case in pensacola, florida went in and got the security system and it captured them. >> absolutely. they have an elaborate system. the system worked.
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they have somebody who was supposed to come and get it they didn't get in and the system worked. it captured the photos in progress. >> whether or not the video works rather than not sprend precious minutes on that. you spoke two weeks ago that a freelance producer had been speaking or hired someone to watch the jackson house and that person watched some evidence being december possessed e -- d of. this is prescription for this is prescription for oxycontin found in the garbage.
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foaled that was found reportedly in the trash by the investigator traesing it. we have not confirmed it from the jackson rendered mansion. this is from dr. brian west to harry james oxycontin. joseph jackson oxycontin. oxycontin to billy james. oxycontin to sally jackson. it goes on and on. craig, what do we know about this dr. brian west? >> we know his license has been revoked. i called the beverly hills office and they said he left the company a while ago. we looked up his license sacramento records and they said the license has been suspended. oo brian r. west physician and surgeon. >> license revoked. license revoked. >> 2001.
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>> i hope you check out all of the names. >> the allegations someone stole his pad. >> the producers are telling me one of the guys followed them to locations a mile from the jackson home. they were dumping things like bottles -- >> you can see the prescription. >> this is what i want you to do. i want you to take the bottles and take the prescription bad and give them to the office. give them the right number. we have to get this stuff to the authorities if this is real it's dynamite evidence. ef to move on before i run out of time. the custody hearings scheduled monday postponed for another week what is going on between debbie rowe? >> she wants visitation rights.
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that's critical to her. >> i don't think that's too bad. i think she deserves it. i think that is what will happen. >> ian halperin who is the second up? >> first off i have to congratulate you. you are the only one who put your rep takings on the line and defended him. there's a big battle in the family going on right now on one side. debbie rowe who said perhaps he would auction off the kids for a price. i challenge that statement. that's what the media is reporting. >> she is not after money they have a settlement. >> she likes the money. on the other hand you have the jackson family who want to put it on the world stage. where is the wild welfare right now? they should step in and find a suitable media government. >> didn't you say he was abusive dad? >> michael jackson complained about his father joe jackson who has already indicated he's going
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to exploit the children. the kids are talented he should not be allowed near these kids. not be allowed near these kids. as far as debbie rowe isssss wer a new car, ♪ ♪ which one's me - a cool convertible or an suv? ♪ ♪ too bad i didn't know my credit was whack ♪ ♪ 'cause now i'm driving off the lot in a used sub-compact. ♪ ♪ f-r-e-e, that spells free credit report dot com, baby. ♪ ♪ saw their ads on my tv ♪ thought about going but was too lazy ♪ ♪ now instead of looking fly and rollin' phat ♪ ♪ my legs are sticking to the vinyl ♪ ♪ and my posse's getting laughed at. ♪ ♪ f-r-e-e, that spells free- credit report dot com, baby. ♪
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