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i'm going to give it to you next hour. this hour's slogan. let's just roll the animation. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- alisyn: good morning, everybody. nice to see you guys. steve: nice to see you. welcome back. alisyn: i was away last week on vacation. are you rested and happy? no. steve: he has been on vacation with three kids. what do you think? alisyn: i feel his pain. brian: i was tracking this story. when this soldier went missing a couple weeks ago, you wonder what was going to happen. now we know more. alisyn: keep him in your prayers, that's the plea from private first class bo robert bergdahl. the american soldier captured in afghanistan. you are seeing the first picture we have of him. joining us on the phone is conner powell. what more do we know about the situation this morning.
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>> the pentagon is now confirming what many people fear that private bergdahl is the soldier in the taliban video. in this 28 minute long tape -- it doesn't look like he is physically harm. he is very scared. he told the captors he will never see his family or girlfriend again. a military spokesman condemned the video as taliban propaganda and violation of international law. u.s. and afghan forces are searching the reason where he. along the border. it's very rugged. very dangerous. the taliban has a large presence there. there is also a large u.s. military presence there as well. there is the possibility that he has been moved several times, maybe even taken to pakistan, making his retrieval all the more difficult. but u.s. military says they are doing everything possible to bring him home safely. alisyn, steve, brian. brian: do you know how was
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captured, what the circumstances are? word is he was out alone. >> we are getting conflicting reports. the military said that he walked off his post in eastern afghanistan without his body armor. without his helmet. without his weapon. the taliban is claiming something different. they say they captured him while he was out on patrol. not clear exactly what happened. either way he is in a lot of trouble and a very dangerous situation for him. steve: thank you very much. alisyn: rest of the headlines at this hour. new video this morning of secretary of state hillary clinton's meeting with india's prime minister. secretary clinton is expected to sign a major agreement today giving the u.s. some oversight on india's weapons program. the deal would also help american defense contractors competing to sell india more than 100 fighter jets. if the sale goes through, it would be one of the biggest arms deals in the world. struggling u.s. lender cit group
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will bankruptcy for now. it agreed to lend the company $3 billion in emergency financing. the "wall street journal" says the deal buys cit time for structure. the federal government recently rejected pleas to help cit. the disease killed nearly one-eighth of the population and now it's back. same fungus imlamed for potato famine is now in the united states. to tomato farms in new jersey and other states. >> home gardner growing tomatoes may not be able to recognize signs right away and know they have a problem. by the time they do realize it it's going to be too late. >> the departmentdepartment of e is investigating the cause of the outbreak. bernie madoff, watch your back. tough new company behind bars. the "new york post" reports some of madoff's fellow prisoners at
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a federal lockup in north carolina are planning to smack him around. apparently they think it will boost their jail house reputations. we are learning that madoff cries over his wife. ruth is mad at him because the paparazzi follow her everywhere. but there is word that some inmates admire madoff for refusing to take anyone else down with him. beloved writer and pulse bullets prize winner frank mccourt dies from cancer. ashes story of his impoverished childhood. it was made into a movie. he leaves behind a wife, and three daughters. he was 7 years old. those are your evidence lines. steve: a great writer as well. four minutes after the top of the hour. let's talk a little bit about this. yesterday, during the sunday morning chat shows the administration officials had fanned out to talk about what a good idea it is to fix the
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healthcare system in this country. however, there is a huge cost for this regarding, it looks like there would be a major expansion of medicaid and that would largely fall under the soldiers of the state. and right now it looks likes program government would take care of it for five years then the governors in all those states would have to worry about it over the weekend down in biloxi they got an earful, democrats and republicans on governor department. not too happy about this. brian: yeah. i mean, they had the governor's meeting and almost no one showed up because these governors are buried in red ink and i can't take the time off to go to a convention. democrats and republicans. governor of vermont republican. governor richardson, ritter of colorado. a democrat in colorado. richardson, of course, a democrat. one thing in common. they all say the responsibility right now in the house plan will fall an their soldiers, they can't afford it they are very concerned. they feel they are going to be
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saddled with unfunded mandates that are coming their way. this is 17% of the u.s. economy right now. over the next 10 years is going to cost us $1 trillion. president obama wants it but didn't write it. so he is playing defense right now at this hour and is counting on himself and his own charisma to sell a program that he didn't author. alisyn: here is what governor haley barbour said from mississippi. alisyn: what's interesting, of course, is that the white house was hoping to lobby the state leaders and governors because they wanted the governors to apply pressure to congress to get the bill going and to push it through. but that's not happening because the governors are giving pushback to the administration saying we simply can't afford this right now. steve: there is a bit of a band-aid on it right now.
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if it were passed immediately, the stimulus money would help for about a year and a half. but then it would run out. and perhaps the feds would help them out for maybe four or five years. but then the federal government would not be helping the states as much as the states really need. so the governors are saying, hey, look, we all are together on this. we would like to fix the healthcare system, something isn't working right. but you cannot put this huge burden on the states. we don't have the dough, mr. president. alisyn: the national governor's association projects that states will face 200 billion-dollar deficit over the next three years. steve: that's substantial? alisyn: that's substantial. they have issues even if they don't have to be saddled with more health care costs. brian: here is what brian sweitzer says. the governors are concerned about unfunded mandates.
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brian: i thought mitch mcconnell put it very succinctly yesterday. he says we don't have a problem with the healthcare system. we want to make it affordable. cost and access is a concern. we like the system. we like the doctors and the hospital. we have to find a way to have it work. this is going to be the week of barack obama. he will have to single-handedly sell this in order to hit his deadline of the august recess. steve: that's what he is talking about. he would love to have it done by the august recess. one congressman said the reason he wants to do that is because the more people look into it the more they realize hey, wait a minute, where are we going to come up with this money? speaking of money, larry summers is one of the white house chief advisors on the economy. he was giving a speech on friday to the peterson institute for international economics. brian: because when i bailed out he filled in for me.
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steve: i understand. he said i feel as if things are turning around. we are receiving information, for instance, when you look at the number of people who use the search engine google and they look up the term economic depression, fewer people are doing that. which means happy days are here again. brian: what you are saying is fewer people are googling the term economic depression. steve: that one term. brian: we don't think we are in one which is important. alisyn: our president's economic advisor is using that as an indicator of the health of the economy. he says when the economy was at its worst a couple of months ago when it was in its deepest depression oh no is he sleeping again. brian: rim stage. alisyn: people were searching the term economic depression for times than what they're now. steve: part of it could be the fact that those people are no longer on google have lost their internet service. maybe they are out of work. brian: or using yahoo perhaps.
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we don't know. steve: he also said regarding the stimulus because there are a lot of republicans who are complaining look, this is a bad idea. it's not working and stuff like that. he said the impact would build up over time peeking in 2010 with 70% of the money at work. now five months later we are on track to meet that time line. which essentially means we are on track to give out most the money next year. alisyn: he ♪ using the jobless numbers or unemployment rate just the google search for the barometer temperature of the economy's health. brian: ten minutes after the top of the hour. as we move ahead with the 2 hours and 50 minutes remaining in the broadcast. alisyn: how will we fit it in ♪ won't you stay. brian: turn backs on the president's pricing plan. our panel of experts takes on the debate next. alisyn: you don't want them inside anymore? steve: they are outside. brian: frank parks is thirsty.
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the next generation of brink's home security. call now. brian: i know you are concerned about health care. i know everybody wants some type of reform whether you are republican or democrat. right now democrats are getting nervous that this health care program as it currently exists is not going to pass, not going to fly it is not going to work. what is going to happen? it's going to come down to the next couple of weeks. andrew breitbart is here with a new hair cut. founder of big hollywood. breitbart.com. are you kidding me?
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major role with drudge. ceo of jen groover brands and lifestyle business. good to be mere. >> thank you. >> political strategist panel of experts. taylor, first off for you, do you feel as though barack obama is looking at the plan he is getting from his legislators and saying "what is this?" >> no, i think actually what we are looking at is a plan coming out of congress that actually with the congressional budget office taking a good look at it is saying not only is it going to be revenue central but it's going to have a 6 billion-dollar surplus over 10 years. i think the president is being very smart in letting congress work out a lot of the details over the next few weeks. then he have a plan he can get behind. brian: same ceo says that the legislation proposals so far would not slow the growth of health care spending? send shock waves through capitol hill, jen? >> i disagree with taylor in the sense that the surplus.
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where is the surplus coming from, the damage that could be done and the domino effect that can be caused to the small business owners of our country and families of our country. why is this being pushed so quickly through the process. much like bills in the recent past have been pushed through where people don't understand it and the cause and effect. there is a reform needed. why isn't it coming starting reform to the insurance companies first. self-responsibility for personal care. brian: other part about, this andrew is, rationing care. are we going to have to decide how a panel of mysterious doctors decide how much ice my ankle needs. >> steven crowder did an amazing video online about this last week. he took his cameras up to canada with his buddies and showed how bad it was. he went into the clinics and showed how hard it is for a person to get things. person coming to get one leg cut off left with two legs there wasn't enough time. they said it's going to take you three weeks.
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part of obama's strategy is speed. trying to ram this through our, you know, as quickly as possible in the summer months. another part of this strategy is having the media completely behind him. but the american people outside of the media are getting the information, they call it socialism. brian: taylor, here is what i understand. i watched mitch mcconnell yesterday he agrees something should be done. is there any way to use his approval rating despite is his policies to get something that republicans can deal with. >> i think it's not so much about his 70% approval rating as the fact that the american people are urgently in need of health care reform. people are behind this. brian: they're worried about the cost. >> of course they are worried about the cost. the cost is incredible important part of the. you have got a need for long-term cost controls which is what talking about and obama administration has been working on as well as congress. there will be long-term cost controls in this program.
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brian: what blows me away is that the you thought that the obama administration might have learned after what happened with the stimulus package not to let nancy pelosi and harry reid so much what's happening to him. >> you have folks at the table in congress. have you everyone at the table talking about these very complicated issues and coming up with a plan that's going to bring the best health care at the lowest cost for american people. >> as advocate for small business owners which is the backbone and thrive within our country. i have not met one person for it because of what it is going to do in terms of cost. who is paying for it why are the segment of quote, unquote, rich, having to be the ones to assume the cost? that's the problem, also. in the perspective of what is rich and why is it segmenting our cost and care of our country versus going to the insurance companies first and to the pharmaceutical companies and then also doing preventative measures in education. brian: right now it's amazing how many people are be nervous
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brian: senator specter -- we are talking about card check, the ability to vote for a union or not have a union in your work
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place. whether the ballot should be secret or not. it got so bad that democrats each with their overwhelming majority in the house and the senate said let's get rid of card check and move ahead with the employee free choice act. andrew breitbart, jen groofer and taylor west. we want to bring this issue to the streets. they put me in traffic. card check is out. who is happy about that. >> i think obama is happy about. this i think he didn't want this to be voted on. if it actually happened, it would narrative that this is an illinois style thugocracy. what do you think? >> i think it's going to great tension between the small business owners once again effecting the ability to thrive and grow. my whole concept or belief is why are we allowing the villan to be the employer in all of this? that's what's really happening. it's becoming entitlement people
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it's going to increase costs at a time where we cannot handle any more costs to be increased. during a recession is the time where the ability to thrive has to be put out there. now this is going to stifle growth and cause tension. small business owners are going to walk away from the table if this comes to front. brian: taylor refresh your recollection surprised it got to the point i'm walking behind you and got to the point or the situation where the obama administration is giving in on this? >> truth is, brian, employee free choice act is about leveling the playing field and making sure workers have the ability to work together to get the benefits and sal i havery that they deserve. the entire legislation has always been about bringing that level playing field. there is various ways. card check is one part. brian: didn't obama sit there and say card check is coming. isn't he letting the unions down? >> maybe is he letting them down in this regard. this summer he has been very successful tore people in unions
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right now. i think that perhaps next year they can bring this back up. but if you are going to get universal health care, these people are going to be more than happy. brian: because you have universal health care. you have a situation where they own two of the three car companies. >> it's been a good summer. brian: do you agree? >> i think universal health care is a great thing for pretty much anybody that is working right now. brian. [horn blowing. brian: i don't blame that penske truck for beeping. i know he never should have blocked the box. that's what happened. i'm not sure if we are going to turn over the tease to steve doocy. because is he blond and reads well. are you and alisyn going to read what's coming up next because she is blond, too. steve: absolutely. we saw that eddie the coffee guy is bringing the fresh load of hay sell nut in.
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'. alisyn: i'm going to run straight over there. steve: 25 minutes now after the top of the hour. hold on to your wallets. you may soon be paying more to fly. the reason? air flight air bags. special seats being mandated. some airlines are doing it some are not. we are going to talk to you about that shortly. alisyn: historic day. nasa marking the first time that man laid a foot on the moon. today is 40 years later and we're going to take a look back. steve: one small step birthdaywise for julian huff. she turns 21 today. in six different ways? introducing listerine® total care. everything you need to strengthen teeth,
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send the dollar crashing and inflation soaring. the u.s. government has nearly $7 trillion in publicly traded debt. half of it is owned by foreigners. steve: don't cash that in. meanwhile, driver errors being eyed in a light rail crash in san francisco that left 48 people hurt. investigators are trying to figure out why the driver turned off automatic control seconds before the crash. authorities say the accident could probably have been avoided if the driver had left it on. the driver was hurt in the crash. he is in the hospital right now. thankfully is expected to survive and they will ask him why he did it. brian: steve, the daughter of a murdered florida couple will care for the nine special children they adopted. 26-year-old ashley marcum say she and her husband plan to move to the parents home and care for the children. the locks have been changed and the new security system is going up in the house right away.
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marcum's parents bird and mellowed billings were murdered. eight people arrested in connection with to the crime. alisyn: they were surrounded by flames and three men recovering this morning after their ship caught fire off the ship of new jersey. authorities are investigating what caused the engine of the captain o.j. rigs to burst into flames. used a life boat. pulled to a nearby ship. the ship still broke apart and sank. steve: meanwhile for this soon to be married couple it's a case of when kelly met kelly. kelly met her fiance after looking up their name on a social networking site. the florida girl sent a message to the texas guy saying hello. and you know what? they were engaged within eight months. >> i felt like there was a good potential, like good possibility before i ever came out to meet
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her in person that this could be the girl that i'm going to marry marry. steve: in three months one kelly held brand will be taking the other's next name kelli hilda hildabrant. alisyn: that's confusing when you get a phone call hi is kelly hill did he. steve: 40 years ago apollo 11 set counsel -- down on the moon. they sent the wakeup call to the international space station and the space shuttle endeavour. al he'll we are going to have buzz aldrin coming up about his memories of setting foot on the moon. brian: when you watch walter cronkite and raw emotion when we
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landed on the moon. wow, you can believe it? amazing today. why haven't we been back since the 1970s? >> 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. [explosion] brian: that is from the tv show thunder bolt. steve: is that how they are waking up the space shuttle this morning? ok, you are thinking if i'm on the space shuttle it's really cool because they use tv shows to wake me up. maybe that is cool. apparently the 19-million-dollar toilet on the international space station is currently busted. alisyn: i hate when that happens. steve: they got one that's still working. >> everything, beautiful
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[inaudible] thank you. alisyn: they are groggy. >> you are so welcome. while i have you, the packages on board and you can print it by using the print execute package shortcut on the kfx desktop. you are a go to change out the image card in the kgs and you are go for outlook. steve: telling her how to run the printer? [ laughter ] alisyn: that's troubling. steve: they are astronauts. they know how to print. brian: that's the problem with the space station you can't get a person who work on the ink jet. where is the magenta. steve: we know where your genta. apparently the toilet, some sort of thing caused the liquid separator causing trouble. alisyn: that sounds dangerous. steve: have to use their own restroom. >> this is international control, houston today's wakeup music for the joint crew on board the orbiting outpost was
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the theme from the 1960's series thunder birds by gray it was played for canadian space agency astronaut julie payette who noted quite cool that today is the 4 oth anniversary of the apollo mission to the moon. brian: good to give everybody their coffee. brings us to the question that ali has embraced this morning. a text question. i want you to answer. this i know what i like to answer and i hope you agree as people. should we take another trip to the moon? should we go back? president bush wanted to go back. steve: to mars and beyond. if you say no, we should not do that, text the word friends with the number 1 to 36288. if you think yes we should go back to the moon and beyond text friends 2 to 36288.
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alisyn: if you want to vote for adam it's friends 3 or chris it's friends 4. brian: fantastic. alisyn: meanwhile speaking of travel and space travel. when you fly on an airplane do you ever think boy i wish i had an air bag in here in case we go down. steve: as oppose to the gas bag sitting next to me? alisyn: exactly. it's hard to know if an air bag would help in crashes because often they are so devastating and catastrophic. that's what rarls considering doing at a cost of 1250 bucks per seat which obviously would be transferred to passengers. do you think that that would be worth it? >> apparently what is coming up in october is new seats on airlineers. the cease have got to be strong enough so that the person does not get hurt who is in the seat if you have a 16 g immediate
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stop. brian: which is 30 miles per hour. steve: on earth and involved in 30 mile-per-hour head on. so apparently some of the airlines are -- have already started installing seat belts that apparently have the air bag in the seat belt so it would deploy immediately like that. others southwest airline has come up with a new kind of seat where it would actually go forward upon impact so that everybody goes forward and that way you don't bang your head on the front seat because everybody is going forward. brian: i flew coach you can't get any more forward. alisyn: they would have to take out seats. brian: looks like it's going to cost us more money to fly. somebody has to pick up this cost. airlines are pretty strapped. if it isn't the fuel which they're paying which is increase it's additional regulation in this case. my feeling is about this is that if this find in the study that people are getting hurt in accidents or temperature buoy
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lebs that are about 30 miles per hour, do it. if not, we can't afford to do it. right now we have the safety technology of 1964, same mustang strap around my waste in my 69 mustang is the same one airlines. why don't they have the shoulder strap. invest in the shoulder strap go for the air bag. we have skipped the shoulder strap. alisyn: you make an excellent point, i think. the point is this is a federal mandate. this is a federal rule and, of course, it's being passed down to the airlines which then will be passed down to the passengers. to your point, if we don't know that it works and saves lives. we would like to save that money. steve: if the standard is the equivalent of a 30 mile-per-hour head on. when was the last time you were on an airliner that was going 30 miles per hour? usually it's a little faster than that. brian: i agree with you. steve: do you think this t. is a good investment of tens of millions of dollars? take a look at the day ahead on
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this monday in july after a beautiful weekend weatherwise throughout the northeast. look at this. we have got some widely scattered showers moving through portions of the ohio valley down through the mid-atlantic and portions of northern central florida at this hour. having some heavy rains. meanwhile, northern plains all the way from the dakotas through the unicam merle state of nebraska. heavy stuff out in texas and little bit in the oklahoma panhandle area of the map. today it's going to continue to be a scorcher. but it is starting out nicely throughout the northeast. alley was just on vacation up in new england. and, ali, temperatures in the 50's right now. delightful. 68 right now in new york city. got 50's and 60's across the central plains. 70's and 80's down south. already 95 in phoenix. look at that phoenix this afternoon will be more like a zip code at 111 degrees.
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about 99 in el paso and dallas and brownsville. pushing the century mark throughout the southern plains. it will be 80's, northern plains and portions of the northeast. and 70's mid-atlantic of a al that's the thing about going on vacation cape cod in the dead of summer bring a parka. steve: it's compel. alisyn: people warm up with great story about the old guy with a stick this weekend, brian. brian: steve, absolutely true. made an exciting weekend without tiger woods, yes, you can imagine? one of the grats tours in golf history fell a little bit short. tom watson gave fans plenty of great memoriesenned a a lot of people hope 60 years old at the british open. a 9-year-old watson almost basement major champion. missed this putt on 18. if he hit it, he would have won. he missed it from 8 feet away. had it gone in, he would have been kissing the jug. instead, he went to a four hole playoff and he fell apart.
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stewart cink wouldn't. he sunk a last minute birdie just to get into the playoff. on the third playoff hole watson well a mess. he knew it cink did everything right in the playoff and walked away with the british open and there with the birdie. 36-year-old stuart cink congratulations wins first major. remember michael vick. you know he was suspended and the dogfighting and international stir and story he caused sent him to prison. 23 month sentence on federal dogfighting charges ends today. he has been under house arrest for the past two months after serving time in federal prison had the big bracelet on. will he play again in the nfl. he has been suspended indefinitely. commissioner roger goodale promises revisiting the case once the sentence is done. it's now done. he wants to make sure that vick is truly contrite by his actions for what he did. then i think he is going to give him a chance to play in the nfl this season and hook up with a team.
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that's going to be the big nationwide debate. alisyn: thanks, brian. coming up. a former congressman's wife is suing because she says her husband had an affair and ruined their marriage. but who is she suing? the mistress. does she have a case? steve: wow. plus, a free ak-47 assault rifle with the purchase of a new truck. we're going to talk to the guy who came up with the idea why he says it's been very good for his business. my name is chef michael.
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alisyn: back everybody. 46 minutes after the hour. a driver has a scary encounter with a taser when he refuses to sign a ticket and it's all caught on camera. watch as this texas policeman pulls out the taser and points it at the man's face. the man wasn't actually tased but the officer arrested him after he refused to sign the speeding ticket. fort worth doesn't have rules about when an officer can pull
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out his taser without firing. harry potter and the half blood prince is a full felony -- full blown hit. raking in $400 million worldwide. could become the first film in the franchise to crack the 1 billion-dollar mark. the first harry potter the source error's stone finished 975 million. over to steve. steve: meanwhile, former congressman chip pickering's wife taking -- his wife is suing the mistress for ruining his marriage and political career. joining us is former federal prosecutor fred t.c. and defense trial attorney randy zel alan. good morning to both of you have guys. >> good morning. thanks for having me. steve: fred, you are think this is a good idea. >> a real live lawsuit. she sued for alienation of
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affection and tort of outrage. basically it's thou shalt not be a barracuda or shark and i'm going to come after you on behalf of myself and five children. steve: she knew he was married. he was a famous guy. ultimately the marriage has come undone. why not sue her. >> this is why i hate lawyers. because a bunch of lawyers sat around the table and said, you know what? what can we do to create some billable hours today? let's go after the girlfriend because having an affair in this country is so shocking and outrageous and beyond all bounds of civilized society. you have got to be kidding. >> let's answer the question. she knew he was married. she went to him and told him you can't take the seat with trent lott and continue your relationship with me and it's over. divorce your wife. the guy divorces his wife. she knew he was heard and was going to cause pain. why isn't it a recognized tort? >> because the tort assumes that
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the marriage was ok beforehand. hello, maybe things were a bit amiss. if the girlfriend was there first, why doesn't the girlfriend have a cause of action against the wife because i could have been married to him. this is crazy. steve: would the financial status of the girlfriend have anything to do with this? >> it may. >> loaded and may be hot it may all be worth it. >> i'm not saying the guy didn't make the right choice. the girlfriend knew he was second. he dropped her to marry in the first place. >> where does his responsibility fall into all of this. go after the girlfriend. leave husband alone. this sets women's rights back like 7,000 years. remember, this whole cause of action comes from the day when a woman was considered the property of a man. steve: email us right now. do you think it is appropriate to go after the mistress, friends@foxnews.com. randy and fred thank you very much for joining us. check out this ad, a missouri
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brian: buy a truck and get a brand new ak-47 assault rifle for free. alisyn: there is a catch. mark mauller came up with the promotion. hey, mark. >> good morning. alisyn: let's first talk about the incentive you are offering.
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i know it's tough for car dealers out there. you came up with a little incentive. you can show it to us this morning? there it is the ak 47 that you are toferg people who buy a truck. >> my little brother mancow told me to tell you good morning this morning. brian: you are the better looking brother clearly. >> no question about it. brian: all right. back to what you were talking about. your genius brother might have coached you on this something he might do. get a car, get a rifle. what made you come up with this. >> last year we gave away handguns at the same time of year. extremely successful promotion. got a lot of press. sold a lot of cars on it doing the same thing this year. friday morning when that interview hit that everyone has been talking about, the switch board -- we can't even answer
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the phones at work. we had over a million hits friday on our web site max 71.com. we were shut down for five hours because it overwhelmed the servers. it's just been an extremely successful. we are selling vehicles. we are going to run out of cars. if you want one, you better hurry. alisyn: the ak 47s that you are offering cost about $450. wouldn't it be just as good as incentive if you were to give 450 bucks to people? >> i don't think you would be talking ome if i was giving $450, would you? alisyn: you are doing it because it's a cool gimmick? >> absolutely. it sells cars. we are big supporters of the second amendment. and everyone should be armed and have a powerful weapon like this for home defense. brian: mark, are you worried somebody sell a car too might have passed the back ground check which i'm sure you are going to go through in detail to make sure they are ok to own a gun. are you concerned if they use that for evil intent that you will be in the middle of it. >> no, sir.
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we give them a voucher and they must go to a gun dealer, a professional to go through the proper background check. i'm not worried about that at all. brian: you sold 30 trucks already. how many you can sell? >> i'm going to rub out of inventory is what's going to happen. we are going to sell everything on the lot. i have got 19 appointments today and tomorrow for people flying in to buy vehicles. you would not be believe the response. it's been 95%% positive there has been some death threats and hate calls from the loonies on the far left. brian: mark mauller of the better looking brother in the mauller family and smarter, dresses better, everything. eric mauler. thank you for raising your brother doing a good job. mark, good job. >> can i bring up one thing? alisyn: very quickly. >> listen, people need to call congress. there is a lot of crazy stuff going on and i figured out a way
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alisyn: health care debate intensifying. governors on both sides of the
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aisle wondering how it it-to-pay for this. a look into canada's system where some people are forced to wait hours for a doctor. brian: and, suspected terrorist with potential ties to al qaeda meeting the united states to recruit members. where is it happening? hilton hotel right in the middle of america. steve: a run-in with a mountain lion but this camper didn't run. instead, he fought back with a chainsaw. >> i hit it with that saw and it that was enough. it had enough and it left. which i didn't expect it was going to. i was real sure it would circle around and try again. steve: with a chainsaw. hear why that guy is really thankful and what the heck he was thinking coming up. meanwhile, our slogan this hour comes from armond in florida. after i wake up in the morning after a hard night of snoring. i put on "fox & friends" and it is never boring.
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[captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- steve: live from studio n midtown, manhattan, brian kilmeade, welcome back after a week off on vacation. gretchenson off today. brian: you were off over the weekend and anszly filled in for you. i was off on saturday but i took off the previous week for a family vacation. steve: i was off the week before. yeah just as much as our critics say we were off. we are on today. brian: with gretchen out, i believe you have to go twitter me twitter.com/kilmeade i will handle it. steve: do you have twitter? brian: i started doing twitter. it takes about a minute. do you have anything general to say we will post a question later. ali does not feel as enthusiastic about the text questions. i couldn't wait for the text question should we go back to the moon i say yes.
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alisyn: i say should we go to mars? let's push it and go to mars. brian: so much to see in the moon. steve: follow me s doing -- s doocy at twitter.com. the president's men and women have been making the case that we need this new and improved healthcare system in the united states of america. however, at the national governor's association meeting down in biloxi, mississippi over the weekend. governors on both sides of the aisle made it very clear, they are cooking up a whole bunch of things that are going to cost states money that they do not have. for instance, there would be a major expansion of medicaid which would be paid for by the federal government for a couple of years, maybe 3, 4, 5. but then after that it would be a huge burden than could bankrupt individual states. peter or zag from the white house was out yesterday and he defended the health care bill and said an increase to the budget deficit probably going to happen.
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>> we're looking at what's happening with regard to new policy and with regard to new policy, this is deficit neutral over the first decade. there are additional steps that are necessary to make it even better than that over the long term and i think the single most important thing is this proposal that we have for an independent commission to help bring down costs. brian: you know what that proposal is? a commission of doctors, mysterious doctors and they will decide what kind of care you are going to get. they will decide if an insurance company whether it's public or private is giving you the right type of information. steve: this group of doctors is going to say you don't need to have that spleen taken out today? brian: that is the big controversy. here is the argue. and it's a vault lid one. do you have insurance companies rationing your care or this mysterious group of doctors to in back shadow with deep voices to decide ok, he can walk now. but right now, i know this, a lot of doctors are upset by calling up and saying this is the treatment i recommend for
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joey and them saying i don't think so. we're covering him for three weeks. not six weeks. 12 weeks instead of 15 weeks. so that is what peter was trying to say. alisyn: here is what is interesting. all governors, it sounds like, democrats and republicans are sort of speaking from the same script. they are saying things like governor martin o'malley said. listen to this. >> the health care debate has been punted or pushed forward or the can has been kicked down the road for many, many years. there is no way we can keep affording these 15% annual increases. 17% increases to health care. we have got to find a better way. alisyn: let's face it states have their own budget problems. they don't want this federal mandate. they are all starting to use this term federal mandate. what i thought was interesting the health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius went and met with governors yesterday. steve: boy did she get an earful. alisyn: she was supposed to lobby them over to the white house side. she got sueded shy came out and
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said you can't send them the bill if there is no way they can pay for it. brian: governor ritter in colorado of. same thing. governor richardson saying i'm worried about it. secretary sebelius said look, this is a work in progress. you know why it's a work in progress? the president didn't write it. everybody else is writing it. steve: because the president is comfortable. those guys on capitol hill is going to have to vote for it let them come up with it that last governor we just saw is a democrat. there are a number of democrats who are really getting nervous because of this. how would they pay for the health care? well, according to the the house bill, if you have -- if you are your income is 250,000 or 2 $80,000, single individual, you would have to pay 1% more. if you are a couple that's at 350, i think. right up to half a million dollars. and then it kicks in to 1.5%. if you are lucky enough to have been successful in your career, you will be socked with a a
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.4% -- rather surtax. here's the thing. these democrats are worried because there are a number of democrats that have been swept into power from very affluent neighborhoods and congressional districts and it's like, wait a minute, the people who just put me in here, because they wanted to change they could believe in are going to get socked under this plan. they don't like it and they are worried about it. alisyn: here are examples from the richest part of the country. jared polus representing boulder, california. veil california, very -- governor from the richest district northern virginia. it's very interesting all of these freshman democrats are emboldened enough to say no, we don't think that we can support this. brian: they got on a bus and went to the white house told rahm emanuel slow down here. 25 richest districts 14 are represented by democrats. 1995 only five were represented
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by democrats. that is the problem. in the big picture, raising taxes not too popular, robert gibbs, the spokesperson for president obama says well the richest 1% have had a pretty good run for many years. steve: you know. brian: that's not going to help. steve: when you combine these freshmen and a frew sophomores with the blue dog democrats moderate and fiscally conservative, that could be cause for pause for the white house. nobody wants to be -- marjorie margolis, she is the one who cast the deciding vote in the clinton budget in 1994, i think something like that, and then she -- remember they were swept out. and the republicans came in and she lost her term after just one chance. and nobody wants to be her. brian: sounds like an eastern european hockey player. steve: i actually used to work with her. brian: bernie madoff is in prison. if you are looking for him, is he wearing a jumpsuit.
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in a north korea -- north carolina butler prison. how is he fitting in? alisyn: actually, you would, as you would imagine, there are some physical low inmates who think that his notoriety is impressive and some who think that by beating up on him, their notoriety would be enhanced. so there is all these sources inside the prison. they are unnamed. who knows if they're guards or prisoners. they are very interested. they all know who he is. some are angry with him and want a piece of him because he is so famous and others think that he has actually been honorable. brian: because? alisyn: because he fell on his sword for his family and didn't take down his wife and his sons with him. steve: i like that bernie madoff he didn't rat out anybody else. they do say he is getting along well. apparently he has shifted right into prison life. he wears t-shirt and jeans and he is eating food and is he not
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complaining about it but it was revealed that apparently he did confess to somebody in a teary moment that his wife, ruth, is really mad at him because wherever she goes, and, remember, she is in still in new york city. wherever she goes the paparazzi follows her. alisyn: does he have love and hate tattooed on each hand because otherwise i don't think is he fitting right into prison life. brian: evidently he likes people play dominos in yard time. he did go to one of those white collar prison experts to tell them to get him ready for bad food and conditions. steve: he did. a little while ago i said that it was happening in minneapolis. it actually happened this past weekend just outside chicago at a hilton hotel. it was a conference that some have referred to as a terror conference. roughly 500 members of his -- tie tosca lead sheik mohammed
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met, the ballroom was packed there were protesters. we were talking about this on friday. it's just extraordinary that you would be having something like this in the united states and that the hilton would be ok with inviting them in. alisyn: it's not just a global sunni network with a different philosophy. this is a group that has well known ties to al qaeda. so say investigators. and they even call it an infantry training ground for al qaeda. so the fact that 700 to 800 people went to this conference, at the hilton in chicago, after what happened on 9/11 is, i think, jaw-dropping. brian: they also condemn capitalism and vow to destroy capitalism. and also go on to say but, by the way, and this is somewhat reassuring if believed, we're against terror. we also think that capitalism is the worst. we are in a capitalist country and you are here, too.
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steve: their web site says that the group does not work in the west to change the system of government. it works to project a positive image of islam to western society. none the less, when was the last time you ever heard of a terror conference that had valet parking? brian: good point. 12 minutes after the hour, what else is going on? alisyn: let me tell you your headlines at this hour. we start with a fox news alert for you. the family of that american soldier captured in afghanistan is making a desperate plea for their son. asking people to keep private first classifies beau robert bergdahl in their prayers this morning. you are looking at still photos from the gripping video the taliban released of the 23-year-old. fox news has decided not to play the taliban video. the pentagon calls the video propaganda. residents in bergdahl's hometown of idaho have seen it says they are still in shock. >> it sort of takes your breath away. is he doing job and we wish him only the best from this point.
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alisyn: the pentagon says private bergdahl disappeared on july 2nd neither pakistan, afghanistan border. financially strapped cit group will avoid bankruptcy thanks to a last minute rescue lone. the bond holders have agreed to lend $3 billion to the lending giant. the "wall street journal" says the money buys the company time to restructure. the deal also minimizes losses for bond holders. this comes after the government rejected cit's pleas for help. paula abdul wants to know straight up whether or not "american idol" producers are taking her back. abdul's manager says the idol judge is not happy with her contract negotiations. may not return next season. her manager, says he hasn't even been shown a contract yet and says abdul is very hurt. meanwhile, idol auditions start august 6th. and abdul's co-workers have all signed their contracts. steve: interesting. brian: randy, too? steve: is he through another
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year or two. meanwhile, another hate crimes bill just passed through the senate. but did you know it will likely make it a lot harder to prosecute terrorists? we're going to explain that in two minutes. bill: sending a message to drivers to put down that phone. no talking, no texting. a bold new campaign that a father who lost his son hopes will save lives. f fiber. there's no fiber in this. tastes too good. there is fiber. [ chuckle ] no. i can't taste the fiber in this chocolate. they have 35% of your daily value. hmm. oh, samples. hmm. autobahn. wackenschdol. fiber one chewy bars. cardboard no. delicious yes.
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steve: a new bill constitutes expanding hate crime. it could make it harder to prosecute terrorists. brian: panelist and special forces officer. david, what's your problem with this hate crime legislation? >> we already pentize and
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dragging into the platform gives them bigger platform for their ideas. steve: you say there are already laws on the books that takes care of this. and it is hard, of course, to prosecute motivation. but how would this involve making hard tore prosecute terrorists? >> well, if we take a look at some recent shootings, the holocaust museum and the army recruiting station shot up in arkansas. these are lone extremist who's would qualify as domestic terrorist. if you prosecute them based on a law that makes their motivation part of the crime. then you are giving them a platform to inspire other like-minded people. brian: we should say the senate approved the bill by a voice vote on thursday 63-2. a procedural vote. on the surface, david, it seems like a no-brainer. you know, should not be treating people like that. america exist because we all get along or supposed to get along. you have a problem as you peel
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it through. >> right. and as we dig down into it, i mean, these crimes are already prosecuted for murder or assault or whatever the state has against harming other people. and making a different class of victims and a different crime out of motivation gives them a better platform to spouse their ideas and in fact an aid program for domestic extremists. steve: here is what john mccain said the bill provides little guidance to law enforcement and raises more questions than answers. if this amendment was to become law, police officers and prosecutors would be forced to treat identical crimes differently depending on the police officer or prosecutors' determination of the political, philosophical, or even religious believes of the offender. this is absolutely wrong. well, he pretty much says what you say, david. >> well, sure. and once again, in the arkansas army recruiting station, unless the man who shot up that station was looking for a christian soldier or female soldier or gay
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soldier, then it's not a hate crime. then you have the holocaust museum shooter and he was offended by jewish people and he actually killed a man who was african-american. so that's a hate crime. the other one isn't. it's the same death toll and the same kind of crime. the same level of offenseness. why are they different? brian: good points. thanks so much for your service as well. hope you can join us again. >> thank you. steve: straight ahead. a new in your face campaign is trying to encourage drivers to stop talking on their cell phone while driving by showing pictures of the dead victims. but does it go too far? a father who lost his son supports it and he tells us why next. brian: starving mountain line attacks a man and his family. fights back using animal instinct of his own with a little help from a chainsaw. steve: that will do it. introducing one a day women's 2o. the first complete women's multivitamin in a drink mix.
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concert goers asking to use the rights for video about jackson's last days. lastly 151 pounds, that's the weight of this world record-setting cupcake. it's filled with 15 pounds of fudge. alisyn? alisyn: thanks, brian. cell phones are linked to about 6% of all auto accidents in the u.s. that's why the national safety council has created a bold new ad campaign called death by cell phone. this sends a strong message to drivers and uses billboards with pictures of real people who have died and a result of this cell phone use. david teeter is very involved in
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this cause. his little boy joe is one of the faces of the ad campaign. joe lost his life as a result of a crash involving another driver on a cell phone. dave, thanks for joining us this morning with your own personal tragic story. tell us what happened to your youngest child, 12-year-old joe. >> well, alisyn, my wife was taking joe to an after-school activity. you know, very normal activity for a mom. and she went through an intersection with the green light. she was about the fourth or fifth car to go through the intersection. so she wasn't the first one. and another vehicle hit our car broadside. resulting accident killed our son joe. the driver of the other vehicle sped past. there were two southbound lanes. she sped past four cars and a school bus actually waiting for the life in the other southbound lane and she never saw those cars and she didn't see the stream of traffic directly in front of her. she was on her cell phone
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looking straight out the window. people tried to honk their horns to get her attention. the on board crash computer said she never touched her brakes. after those details became clear, i started looking at the science of cell phone distraction. i was surprised what i found. i was a heavy cell phone user myself while driving. i never understood it was so dangerous. we are hoping maybe we can educate people. i think a lot of people including the driver of this vehicle. she was on the phone with her church at the time where she volunteered for kids my son's age it was just a terrible situation for her as well. i think if she knew what i know today about how dangerous this is, she wouldn't have been on the phone. alisyn: you make such a good point that so many of us have forgotten or ignored the fact that cell phone use is illegal and also just the tragic outcome that can happen by doing something as seemingly normal as talking to your church on the phone. why would you want to put your personal tragic story on a billboard for everyone to see?
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>> well, you know. i decided several years ago that if we can make something good come out of the loss of our son, you know, it certainly won't justify it or reconcile it for us, but it does add some meaning. and nothing will ever bring joe back. if we can get the message out, when i say we my wife and i and other two boys are all involved in this. maybe we can prevent other families from going through it the death by cell phone line came from the other person on the billboard, her daughter, who is in the video that the billboard directs people to at death by cell phone.org. she is the one that coined that we thought it was a phrase that would get people's attention. lo and behold lamar advertising came forth and said we would like to donate billboards. a million people a day are seeing. this nationwide insurance donated the production of the bill billboards.
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we had no cost to the national safety travel to get this message out and get drivers maybe even while they are on the cell phone and if they watch the video, they will hear some of the things i was talking about about how dangerous it is. alisyn: let's hope that people do watch that video. we should let everybody know that the woman who killed your son pleaded guilty to negligent homicide. she had a four year suspended sentence and fine. but hopefully by spreading the word today, dave, you're going to keep it from happening to other people. thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks, alisyn. alisyn: america's budget is almost negative $1 trillion. so president obama is asking his cabinet to cut costs. but the deadline is today. did anybody make those cuts or is the administration just hoping no one will remember? and, a bikini babe's car wash may be someone's wish but it's not everyone's. the make-a-wish foundation is refusing funds from a charity car wash in their name. good morals or too uptight?
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new! nutrisystem d. lose weight. live better. call or click today. steve: welcome back on this monday morning. here is something that's kind of fallen off the radar a little bit. remember when president obama ordered each of his cabinet
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officials to cut $100 million from their budget? today was the day they were supposed to do just that. brian: so it's going to be a big day. are there any cuts really going to happen? joining us from the white house is mike emanuel. mike, what was that directive about? is it actually going to happen or was that just window dressing? >> well, great question. what we can tell you was it was 90 days ago. his first cabinet meeting april 20th. he looked around the table and said to 15 department heads i want you to cut $100 million in the next 90 days. i have been following up with white house aids. they say basically they don't have anything for us at this point. they said they weren't sure if it was 90 days or 100 days. i told them it's 90 days. so, at the time there was some criticism saying $100 million from the federal budget is a drop in the bucket. it's nothing compared to the deficit for any given month. basically president obama kind of countered it at that point saying well it sets a tone. if we're cutting $100 million it's a good sign a step in the right direction.
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one economist i interviewed at the time said this was a populist reaction to the tea parties. tea parties were april 15th. this cabinet meeting was april 20th. so, at this point, to be fair, the white house could put out a paper statement later today saying where all the cuts are coming. it's certainly not an event on the schedule, guys. steve: mike, from your perch, it seems like it's been much of a priority for the white house or is this just one of those things that goes on behind the scenes over the last 90 days and then today they come in and say ok, we have got the list. here are the cuts? >> you know, sometimes steve, you see situations where paper statement comes out and it really lays out the whole story for you and it gives you all the facts and figures of where the cuts are coming and what's going on. in this case it seems like basically all hands on deck for health care reform. and so really the focus of the administration at this point is health care reform. if you watch the sunday shows yesterday, including "fox news sunday," a lot of the key advisors were out talking about health care reform. we expect to hear from president obamaer day this week on health care reform. including a prime time news conference wednesday night.
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travelling to cleveland on thursday. and so they feel like crunch time is now for health care reform and so perhaps there is a concern that this would just mix up the message. the message here is we have got to fix health care and this is the week to do it. so we feel like there is a full-court press going on this week at the white house and all indications are every day we are going to hear a lot about health care and perhaps not as much about this other subject you guys mentioned this morning. steve: mike emanuel live at the white house. where they have got to fix health care here in studio c we have got to fix the key light. they just took that out. alisyn: ignore the crashing sounds. brian: update us deadline a half hour. steve: eliminate $100 million. alisyn: let me get right on that. lone surviving gunman admitting his role in the november shooting. its with a particularly dramatic confession when ache mall can --
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stood up in the trial and admitted guilty. 166 people were killed when ten gunmen stormed the taj mahal hotel in mumbai. brian: u.s. coast guard will begin search and rescue operations to try to find raymond callen. he was not on board when his boat was discovered. >> they put the report out and another sailboat caught up to the boat. they boarded it. nobody was on board. they took it out of gear. >> hopefully the guy has a life jacket on. hopefully somebody is going to find him today. alive. brian: let's hope. the 30-foot sailboat was going in circumstance when it was found. life jackets were still on board. steve? steve: brian, it happened exactly 40 years ago today, historic moment for humanity. >> one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.
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steve: neil armstrong's famous words and that anniversary being commemorated all over the country today from the halls of nasa to the iss international space station. at this space station today two astronauts go on a big spacewalk to install some extra parts. the rest of the astronauts try to fix a 19-million-dollar toilet. one of the space station's two toilets has broken leaving 13 people to share one bathroom on the international space station. there is another one on the space shuttle that leads to our question of the day no not should we fix the bathroom because i'm thinking we should. should we take another trip to the moon? if you think no, text friends 1 to 36288. if you think yes, let's go to the moon, text friends 2 to 362 362 8. results a little later on. alisyn: sarah palin is making the rounds in alaska but she claims this is not a goodbye tour. palin calls the visit a thank you for letting her be their
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governor. analysts think otherwise. palin's trip is being looked at as a possible start for a 2012 presidential campaign or even a bid for a talk show. palin insists she is just reaching out to her fellow alaskans. she has visited fishing villages eskimos and wildlife sanctuary. nobody can vote in the animal sanctuary. those animals don't vote. brian: it's a dream come true for laura bush. the former first lady has a library brae to call her own. >> -- i have always imaged that paradise will be a kind of library. i have got to tell you this is very close to heaven for me. brian: of course in paradise everyone returns the books on time. the laura bush library in austin texas boast as collection of 30,000 books and out front will
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be a life size statues of former librarian reading to a child. steve: that's great. meanwhile, he was prepared to cut wood, not use his chainsaw to cut off a mountain lion but that's exactly what happened at a camp site in wyoming. dustin briton says he grabbed the chainsaw when he saw the mountain lion about to lunge at him. he says he needed to protect his wife and kids and he had it ready. >> his head was right about here and it batted at me as i went like this with the saw. i hit it with that saw and that was enough. it had enough and it left. i didn't suspect it was going to. i was sure it would circle around and try again. steve: briton, who san exmarine says he hit the mountain lion at full force but barely even punctured its skin. that is one tough mountain lion. alisyn: it's like freddie kruger kruger.
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steve: hold still while i cut off that tail. brian: let's talk about something else. innovative ideas to grow and launch a business. how about a car wash? we have plenty of car washes, how do you come up with something different? not my idea but here is an idea. car wash where women wash the car wearing bikinis. alisyn: sounds successful. not just an entrepreneurial idea. this was fill tropic idea. this bikini car wash in washington wanted to give $3,500, i think, worth of their profits to the make-a-wish foundation. brian: i think it's half their proceeds. alisyn: they had very al temperature his stick goal here. it wasn't just at this time laght and they were going to give to charity but it upset people including the make-a-wish foundation. take a listen to a spokesperson. >> they should take any kind of money, you know. like those kids would be happy to receive anything. and even if it comes from a bikini car wash. >> we would never want to engage
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in any sort of partnership or activity that could potentially be perceived as offensive to our families. steve: some families according to this story out of washington state regard bikini clad car washers as an adult service. ronnie, who runs the car wash, he is the boss of the girls in the bikinis he said if a dying child is getting their wish to disney world in two weeks come to them sand says the money is not available because we decline to accept the money from the girls in the bikini, that kid wouldn't care where the money would come from. ronnie does plan to donate the money anonymously to make a wish none the less. alisyn: now we know. but, also, make a wish's profits are down 10%. i don't know if they should be picky at this moment about where their -- this is a legal venture. this isn't illegal. steve: you see girls wearing bikinis like that at the beach. you see it on television. is it appropriate. alisyn: let us know if you think it's a nice gesture, appropriate
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or not. steve: and over-the-line. brian: i asked people on twitter, what do you want to talk about? what should would he be talking about most? most people saying health care. everybody wants to talk about it. alisyn: ok. so we will. brian: 18 minutes before the top of the hour, on july 8th. steve, you were off. while we were discuss ago study on marriage and as himedders in sweden and london i made comments offensive to many people that was not my intention and looking back at those comments i realize they were inappropriate. for that i sincerely apologize. america, huge melting pot, that is what makes us such a great country. steve? steve: all right. straight ahead. you want to seat future of our healthcare system. if president obama gets his way -- look to our friends to the north. what we can learn from canada and why they don't want us to feel the pain. socialized medicine exposed? alisyn: also, if you think you are ready to tie the knot? jennifer cunningham listen up.
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think again. sometimes love just ain't enough. are you and your significant other meant to be married or destined for dead lock? wedlock or dead lock, that's the show. we will have the expert on next.
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alisyn: love is all you need, right? love may not be the key to wedded bliss. steve: how do you figure out if you will make it for the long haul before tying the knot? dr. michelle callahan is a psychologist and relationship expert. host of a brand new show premiering today wedlock or dead lock. good morning to you. >> good morning. steve: i like the idea of the program because have you got couples coming in. they intend to marry and you put them through the paces and what happens at the conclusion? >> at the end i either hand them back their marriage license and tell them hey, you know what? i think you guys should go ahead
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and get married or i take it and rip it up. i tell them why i think they are not ready yet. what things they should work on getting their finances together. work on parenting. steve: premiers today. you have already taped a few episodes vawvment ripped up marriage licenses. >> a lot of themment and handed some back. and told couples they should flat out break up. alisyn: what are the red flags that would make you. steve: i will be concluding the interview. >> infidelity that's been ongoing. disagreement how many kids to have and whether to have kids. steve: religion? >> religion is a big one. debt, inability to manage your funds well. your finances well is a big one. not being comfortable with a blended family is a big one. taking care of children that are not your biological children but you need to treat them like you you -- they are. steve: dave ramsey who is on the program from time to time once a week, he says the number one
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reason that a couple fights is over money. during these financially challenging times, it's tough. >> it's a really big deal with us being in a recession. a lot of people are out of work nor a lot of debt whether it's credit card debt and really misspending their money or maybe it's just student loan debt that could put you couple hundred thousand dollars. alisyn: are you saying they can't reconcile these differences. >> not at all. i want them to reconcile before they get married. i want them to see if they can really do something about their issues before they walk down the aisle. they have unrealistic expectations that getting married is going to fix their problems. if you can fix the problems after, see if you can fix them before. steve: otherwise, you are saying there shouldn't be a rush to judgment. i'm going to rip this up like alisyn just did for now. but eventually, you know, you two go together and get yourself some scotch tape. >> it's a maybe. i ask them to come back, please. if you can get it come back we will marry you on the show. alisyn: what are the secrets to
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success. you have seen patterns that very healthy successful couples all have. >> also being able to repair problems in your relationship. it is being willing to compromise. being willing to work through conflicts. being open to those things. a lot of people are very rigid and unwilling to make certain changes that are going to be required in any long-term relationship. alisyn: compromise, i have heard that. steve: wedlock or dead lock. dr. michelle callahan, thank you very much for joining us on "fox & friends." alisyn: thanks. >> thank you. alisyn: all right. it's where the united states is headed if universal health care gets passed. our next guest went undercover and shows us more of this exclusive video into canada's socialized system and his findings are frightening. ♪ steve: first, on this day in history number one on the music charts july 20th 1980 billy joel with still rock and roll to me
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high praise for the canadian health care company continues to sweep across this country. >> i was told to grab a number, 770. approximately how long of a wait? >> between two and ten hours. >> we just left the hospital. we've been waiting for at least four hours, and a guy with a
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broken clavicle, it took him five hours for a turn-around to get his care, and they told him to go see an orthopedic tomorrow. >> yeah. pj tv's commentator steven crowder went underground to shoot that video. steve: we actually linked to your youtube, it is terrifying. first you go to a place, and you first see the triage nurse who figures out how bad it is, and she said it could take you ten more hours. >> that's kind of typical there. we just went through the system to be another faceless number. we didn't want any special treatment, and we conducted interviews with other people, that's pretty typical, two to ten hours. brian: that something you want to get across as someone who grew up in canada, that in canada that is not how people feel about their system? >> yeah, you get kind of both
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sides in canada. most people aren't huge fans of it, and it's not just the waiting times. it can take two to three years to get a family doctor, and the nurse said you're young, so chances are you'll survive, and they have to ration care. brian: is it free? >> not when you take into account the tax burden and the cost of living. steve: why did you do this, you're a canadian, you're not an investigative reporter, but you took the hidden camera, and there's one of your friends who sat around the waiting room. >> i wanted to show america what it was like. americans haven't had a first time experience. if you look at my old youtube videos it was me and a tv sheet. and now we have a budget, so that's how it unfolded. brian: and keep in mind too, senator mitch mcconnell says
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we've got to reform our system in cast and access. your system is not it, and england doesn't seem to have it down either. >> no, the man who handed up the quebec system has declared it a failure. and they have superhospitals, as they're known here, just hospitals, and they have to eliminate the government monopoly through more privatization. steve: at one point the nurse goes it's going to be a long time, you could go down the street to the place you pay and it would probably be about $900. and how many canadians come to the united states for health care? >> i assume quite a bit. we did a couple of times, and we couldn't get things done, especially mri's, because it's not that much cheaper there. steve: check out his youtube
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video pj tv's steven crowder, thank you for joining us live. brian: from snoozing to googling, larry summers known for sleeping through meetings. google means a lot to him. steve: a group with terror ties holds a successful recruiting event right here on american soil. should the chicago hotel told them to go somewhere else? you are smart. accumulate 10 nights and get a night free anywhere. welcome rewards. smart. so smart.
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surf the web, but don't worry, apparently larry summers is using google as a forecast for our economy. the story straight ahead. it's all true. brian: 40 years ago today, a small step for man, a giant leap for mankind. should we go back to the moon? we talk to three men who were there, and we'll do that on this show. our slogan comes from jay in florida who says who could wake up and feel like a grouch with brian, steve, and ali on the curvy couch. steve: nice. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- alisyn: perfect day for rocket man, 40th anniversary of man's first steps on the moon. steve: coming up this hour we'll have buzz aldrin with us, alan bean, and charlie duke, three guys who all went to the moon.
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i still remember when it happened because i am 42. it was late at night, but it effectively -- when neil armstrong put his footprint on the moon, it effectively ended the space race. the russians said the show is over. brian: why be second? why they didn't keep going back is a mystery, and it doesn't make any sense as you rewatch these broadcasts, and you realize we haven't been since, and it's not like we can go back easily. we don't know how to get back. it's going to take us 20 years to get back? didn't we keep the stuff around? steve: those guys sat on the top of that saturn five rocket which was just a huge gas bomb that blew them into outer space, and i was reading an account yesterday that the nasa officials said listen, if anything goes wrong rather than trying to land on the moon, just come home and we'll put you back in the rotation for the mission, so you'll eventually wind up on the moon.
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brian: can you imagine, promise me you'll come home if it gets bad. of course i'm going to come home. where else can they go? steve: remember apollo 13? alisyn: and it was great to rewatch walter cronkite reporting on that when he was almost giddy. here are your headlines at this hour because u.s. governors are wrapping up their final day of meetings this morning, and health care is the hot button issue. governors on both sides of the aisle are expressing deep concern over the health care bill in congress calling it an unfunded mandate. they say they worry that medicaid costs will skyrocket hurting their already strained budget. >> i think we need to focus on the rising cost of health care. health care costs are continuing to increase. we need to address that issue and make sure that we're not just shifting those costs to the states. alisyn: kathleen sebelius says she understands the governor's
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concerns and automatics that more work is needed on the reform bill. there's new video this morning of secretary of state hillary clinton's meeting with the indian prime minister. she will sit down with the president of india's national congress, sonia gandhi. they will sign an agreement giving america oversight on india's weapons program. and america is competing to sell india more than 50 fighter jets. if it goes through it would be one of the biggest deals in the world. the family of bow robert bergdahl wants you to keep him in his prayers. the pentagon calls the video propaganda and private bergdahl disappeared on july 2nd near the
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afghan-pakistan border. we have the latest information from the ground coming up. tim geithner is traveling the globe for what could be his toughest job yet, and that's trying to convince foreign investors to hang on to their american debt. it could send the dollar crashing and inflation soaring if they don't. the u.s. government has $7 trillion in publicly traded debt. half of that is owned by foreigners. lower i.q. scores for kids is being blamed on air pollution. this research adds to previous evidence that smog may harm the developing brain. doctors say the columbia university study suggests that even typical urban air pollution is more dangerous than previously thought. we are in trouble here.
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beloved writer and pulitzer prize winner frank mccourt has lost a long battle with cancer. he's best known for "angela ashes," and he taught for decades in new york city public schools. he leaves behind a wife, a daughter, and three brothers. a memorial service is set for september. he was 78 years old. those are your headlines. steve: the lad from limerick. alisyn: who hasn't read that book? brian: and i watched his offbroadway play too. where did the tarp funds go? what are they using it for? steve: the good news is that congress has got this inspector general, and his name is neil barofski. he's the guy who kind of has been keeping an eye on things. here's one of the things he
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suggested. he says that the treasury department should require more information from the banks and yet the treasury department has refused to get it. here's what we know. they took the $200 billion, these 600 banks, mainly ten big ones, they bought other banks, they invested the money, and they did other things with it and they're not very transparent with it. alisyn: remember this was supposed to grease the wheels of lending so credit could start churning? it's very interesting because the treasury department has rejected the idea that you could ever really know exactly where our dollars went with the banks. this is the analogy they used. money given to a bank is like water poured into an ocean. really? we have to keep track of our own checks. brian: we have to fill out forms to get a loan. can you just tell me if mrs. johnson got some of the money to open up her deli.
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at her age i didn't know if she could make it word. steve: don't they have an excel spreadsheet? they can say this went for a loan or this went for a shawl business loan. brian: they bought other banks, they made investments, they paid off their debts, so ok. do me a favor. try to lend it. i don't think i'd like to. alisyn: we'd rather buy a different bank. we'd rather invest it ourselves rather than give it to people who are trying to buy homes or cars. steve: last week goldman reported a 3 or $4 billion quarter. that was their profit, and then -- brian: jp morgan. steve: billions of dollars, but they still have not fully repaid all the tarp money. brian: i'm glad some of them did, they do not want the government standing over them telling them not to give bonuses out or how much to give out. steve: goldman still has
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outstanding tarp myspace. they're making all that money, why don't they pay it back. brian: let's ask larry summers that. he's got a very important job, and he is the one who's got to tell us how the economy is going, and we know he works very hard, and oftentimes he's been caught on camera nodding off. alisyn: he works so hard that he has to nap during meetings. brian: but one of the things he uses to see if the economy is turning around. >> the unemployment rate? no. it is the search term, the words that people are using on google, and fewer people this month have searched the term economic depression than they did six months ago. brian: what does that mean? alisyn: it means fewer people think we're in a depression, and that's the sign of economic
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confident. brian: is that the silver lining? alisyn: that's what larry summers says is the indicator that the economy is on the uptick? steve: i'm looking at google right now. the orange county movie, espy winners, chronicles of riddic. alisyn: see, the economy is doing well. steve: happy days are here again. brian: if you think the economy is bad, do you want to google it to reassure yourself? ten minutes after the hour. one of the most controversial things according to everybody is health care. this new health care program is going to revolutionize our health care system is coming to a country near you. america. what has the response been about the popularity, the cost, how do the american people feel about it? people are uneasy about it. governors are uneasy about it, legislators are uneasy about it. steve: brent bozell is not easy
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about it. we've been talking about health care here on fox for a very long time, but if you watch some of the other networks you would never know that the congressional budget office said that even though the president of the united states said costs will go down, they say costs will go up. you wouldn't know that. >> they're not reporting that, and the interesting thing about that is that the more these things are made public, the more the american people run like hell from them. here's something else that isn't being reported. the entire health care debate is predicated on the premise that we're having a crisis. we hear that word all the time, right, steve, brian, and alisyn? always a crisis. what do you suppose we ought to call it if a survey just came out conducted by the university of houston health science center and zogby international, it's got a 1.2% margin of error,
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meaning its perfect, and it shows 84% of americans are satisfied or very satisfied with their present health care. where's the crisis? steve: and nobody's talking about that part. >> 84%. get this point. 46% of people without insurance are satisfied. they don't want it, for whatever reason. so there is no crisis. this debate ought not to be taking place at all. alisyn: since so many americans are growing concerned as the polls show about what's going to happen with health care and if their own taxes are going to go up, why wouldn't the mainstream media be reporting that? >> you know the answer. alisyn: i don't. if they're in the tank for the obama administration, they wouldn't just alienate all their viewers. they want ratings, actually. >> look, i've maintained that they're going to go barack obama's going to go down, and they're going to go down with
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him. what's happening is this. the american people who voted for barack obama voted for one set of promises. they voted for him because he promised tax cuts. guess what? those 95% of americans are not getting tax cuts, they're going to get tax increases, he's going to go down, the media are going to go down with him simply because they've been the pipers, they've been the rats following behind the pied piper the whole time. they're going down with him. steve: all right. stay right there, brent, because we want to continue the conversation. he's sticking around because there's a shocking new development on capitol hill. why some democrats are now turning their backs on unions and this card check thing. is it a distraction or something else? alisyn: bernie madoff is facing a tougher time behind bars than he de in his manhattan penthouse. his fellow inmates want to snack him around. taking its rightful place
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steve: welcome back. 17 minutes after the top of the hour. this is a story you may not have heard about. we talked about card check where somebody circulates through a workplace and gets enough people to sign this card, yeah, we would like a union here, then a union may have to actually be part of your employment deal, but brent bozell who's continuing the conversation from just outside washington. brent, card check now dead? >> simply because as we were saying before the break the more you look at this kind of legislation, the more you see how radical it is. it would have taken away the individuals rights to decide whether or not he wanted to participate in a union. now you've got them trying to push in this mandatory federal
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arbitration meaning what? meaning that when it comes time to negotiate a contract, the unions could take out the emory boards and just do their nails and wait for the federal government to intervene to arbitrate this, and they know that they're going to get a good deal from the federal government because it's their people in the federal government, so that's the end of america being able to set wages for their own employees. this is serious stuff that's going on. this is socialism. i have an announcement. the media research center, the minority broadcasters of america have asked for a bailout, so the media research center has also asked for a bailout today. we're asking the secretary of treasury who's traveling somewhere to take a minute and look at our request for $1.18 billion which we think is a good number. brian: do you promise not to use it to buy other banks? >> no, no promises at all. but you and i can talk afterwards. steve: good luck on that. brian: overall this is not over
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yet, people who think the card check thing is a victory, it's not done until binding arbitration is done? >> no, it's not. you've got to wait until there's a stake in these things and buried in the ground. you've got to watch what they're trying to do. these middle of the night deals being passed, it is scary stuff, america has to be vigilant about what is going on with their futures. steve: we thank you very much for joining us live from the headquarters outside washington. alisyn: we have an update on you on that islam recruiting conference that happened in chicago this weekend. these are folks that have ties to terrorists. it took place right here in chicago. many of the people attending were americans. how could this be happening at home? we'll update you. brian: and it was just another day on the high seas when their ship suddenly went into flames, burst into flames, engulfing
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steve: 23 minutes after the top of the hour, and here's what's happening. you know the disease that kills merely one-eighth of the world's population is back. the same fungus blamed for the famous irish potato famine is spreading in the united states attacking tomato farms. the department of agriculture is investigating the cause of the outbreak. meanwhile "harry potter and the half-blood prince" is a fell blown mega hit topping spiderman's previous record. the sixth installment setting the new opening record raking in $400 million worldwide. good movie. brian, ali.
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brian: a group stepping up al-qaeda recruiting efforts in the middle of the country. ainsley: this man led a protest against the meeting, and he joins us live from d.c. good to see you. you went to this conference. 700 to 800 people showed up for the conference. tell us what you saw there and what you noticed. >> yes, that's right. and we'll have some more information on that on our web site later today at realcourage.org. what we saw is 700 attendees. they were divided, men in the front, women had to be in the back because they weren't allowed to sit with the men because the group promoted their view of islamic supremism. they challenged democracy, they're against equality in a handout that they have, and the handout that they distributed at
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the hilton included justifying killing people who left islam for what they call apostcy. they view those people is that leave islam deserve a death sentence for what they call treason. brian: did they talk about what bin laden talks about and that is forming this islamic caliphate? >> yes, sir. the whole purpose is to promote an islamic caliphate, and the speakers, i was in the conference at one point at the part where they talked about what they called a, quote, rise of islam. what they talked about was islamic supremism. and they made no bones about it. they called for the supremacy of islam overall, and their goal is to create a political international state called a caliphate that would rule so called muslim nations and for those nations that would not be
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part of it, you have a choice, either to pay tax to them, which they claim would be cheaper than our taxes now, or according to an earlier report that i asked about, and they wouldn't deny, if we didn't pay tax to them, they would declare war on us. alisyn: on their web site they say that their whole mission statement is to promote a positive image of islam in the west. what evidence do we have that this group is connected to al-qaeda? >> there have been former members of al-qaeda from khalid shaikh mohammed was a former member, he was involved in the 9/11 attack plannings, and another individual was an iraqi al-qaeda leader, and the issue is larger i believe than simply al-qaeda alone. it's the issue that these organizations deliberately and consciously within our country are seeking to attack democracy,
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attack equality, and attack freedom. they're against freedom. brian: and they're against capitalism, and you said a lot of these people look american, it's on the card, look like they're from america, they speak english, so why would they live in a capitalist country in a democracy if they hate it so much? >> why would they hold a meeting against capitalism at the hilton? of all places? i think that speaks volumes as to how absurd some of their goals are, but as absurd as they may be, we should not take them lightly. there are a good 700 people there that were taking what they were saying very seriously. brian: gotcha. thanks. >> yes, that's right. ainsley: thank you. he went to afghanistan to give the people there a better life, but now he is in the hands of terrorists, and his family prays for his safe return. u.s. forces are hunting his captors at this hour.
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we have a live report from afghanistan. brian: it may be a wish for some but not for all.
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alisyn: welcome back, everybody. keep him in your prayers, that's the plea from the family of
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private first class bow robert bergdahl, and joining us on the phone from kabul is connor powell. what do we know about the situation this morning? >> well, the video confirms what many of us feared is that private bow bergdahl had been captured by the taliban. in the 28-minute long video he appears in good health, he has recently shaved head and is growing a beard and wearing afghan clothes. it doesn't appear he's been physically harmed, though he's clearly very scared and exhausted. at one point he's telling his captors he's afraid he'll never see his family or girlfriend again. the u.s. military has condemned the video calling it propaganda and a violation of international law, and u.s. forces are combing the region where he disappeared three weeks ago on june 30th searching for private bow bergdahl, but the area is very rugged and very dangerous, and the taliban have a very large
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presence there. there's also fears that he might have been taken to pakistan where the taliban operate. the u.s. military is saying they're doing everything they can, but clearly he's in a very dangerous and very uncomfortable situation. brian: what's our policy of dealing in these situations? do we negotiate or do we not? >> well, the u.s. is not talking about negotiations. the military is staying very tight-lipped about what exactly they're doing, but i've spoken to soldiers in the region, and i know they've been patrolling the region and dropping leaflets saying provide us information to help us bring him home, they've offered a reward, but there's not a policy of negotiations to bring him back. the military is trying to actively find him, though. brian: connor powell, thank you. 27 minutes before the top of the
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hour. watch your back, bernie. new details this morning about bernie madoff's tough new company behind bars. the "new york post" reports exclusively some of madoff's fellow prisoners at a federal lockup in north carolina are planning to smack him around. apparently they think it will boost their jail house reputation. we're learning madoff cries over his wife. ruth is mad at him because the paparazzi follow her everywhere, and she's down to $2.5 million, however, there's word that inmates admire madoff because of refusing to bring somebody else down with him. steve: driver error being eyed in a light rail train crash in san francisco that left 48 people hurt. investigators are trying to figure out why the driver apparently turned off the automatic controls just seconds before the crash. authorities say the accident probably could have been avoided if the driver had left it on. the driver was hurt in the
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crash. he is in the hospital right now, expected to survive, and he will be expected to answer the question why did he turn it off. ali. alisyn: the daughter of that murdered florida couple will care for the nine special needs children that the couple had adopted. 26-year-old ashley markham say she and her husband plan to move into her parents' home and raise the children as their own. it was her mother's wish for her to become their guardian. she says locks have been changed and a new security system is going up at the house. her parents, byrd and melanie billings, were murdered in their home earlier this month. eight people have been arrested in connection of the crime. it might be hard to be in that house, i would imagine. brian: they were surrounded by flames, three men are recovering this morning after their ship caught fire right off the coast of new jersey. authorities are investigating what caused the engine of the captain oj rigs to burst into flames. the crew members used a life boat to flee the burning vessel
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and were pulled to safety by a nearby ship. the ship still broke apart and sank. steve: we were telling you about this story out of washington state. there's this guy, ronnie. ronnie runs a car wash, and it's a car wash rather than have a machine wash the cars you have beautiful women in bikinis washing the cars. well, he offered to give the make a wish foundation $3,500, half of his take because he would like to help them out, and here are the car washers right there, and the make a wish people said no, can't take the money, it would be inappropriate because some of our families feel this is an adult service and we shouldn't take their money. we asked you if you thought that that was a good idea or a bad idea. ainsley: the kids who rely on make a wish to go to disneyland, et cetera, don't get the money,
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and make a wish is down 10% this year because of everybody being cash strapped, so here is what kathy says. steve: excellent. brian: luanne says this. steve: and we have another one from jesus in michigan. we should point out that apparently this fellow, ronnie, says i will donate the money anonymously. all right. brian: we have news here on our staff.
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steve: we do. alisyn: congratulations are in order to our senior producer jen cunningham. there she is. look at the smile on her face. she got engaged to her boyfriend, her very handsome charming boyfriend by the way i might add. steve: dennis rochet. alisyn: they got engaged in central park, very romantic, and i'm vying for an invitation to the wedding. steve: look at the sparkler on there. it's like a big potato. it's huge. alisyn: put that down. brian: do we have a picture of dennis? alisyn: it's not important. does anybody care about the man? brian: i met dennis at the met game. this is jen, and that's dennis. they're going to get along great. alisyn: you've made him look scared. this is what dennis looks like today.
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he's smiling. brian: good job. steve: dennis popped the question in central park over the weekend, they were over in one of those castle buildings or something like that. and she was looking out the window, turned around, and there he was with that big honking ring, i think down on one knee, and tourists started to applaud, and he had a top ten list of why she should be a rochet. alisyn: really? brian: jen, will you take his time? >> i have to now, he made a top ten list. alisyn: you're not supposed to say congratulations to the woman. you're supposed to say best wishes. steve: congratulations to the happy couple. brian: please send them cash because they need a house to start off. steve: she's back, she's telling us to wrap it up, we've got to go. alisyn: all right.
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steve: congratulations, jen. alisyn: the health care debate is getting heated on capitol hill, but should decisions on your family's health be made closer to hope? rick santorum gives us his take on this. brian: 40 years ago today they were the first to step foot on the moon. we take a look back with the men who were there. ññwow, is this... fiber one honey clusters? yes.
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steve: well, we've been talking about this for a while. the battle to overhaul health care intensifying in congress. president obama wants to make health care affordable for all americans, but does that mean more government control? he would like bills done by the august recess. brian: former pennsylvania senator and fox news contributor says we should keep government
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out of health care, but would you say that cost and access should increase? you're not saying it's perfect, but you're saying you don't like what you see? >> i don't like what i see, but i think mitch and republicans have been up here saying for years now that we need to reduce costs, and we need to increase access, but what they're doing is throwing the baby out with the bath water here. we have a health care system that works very well for most americans. 80 some percent of americans are very happy and 85% of americans are covered. so what we're looking at is how do we improve incrementally on the system we have? what's going on is a big overhaul of the system. steve: so rather than just direct the attention at that 15% that is uninsured we're going to redo the whole thing. what's extraordinary is over the last week or two as, for instance, last week, the congressional budget office came out and said, senator, the president has said that it would drive costs down when in fact it could actually increase costs,
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and now they are a number of freshmen democratic senators and blue dogs who are saying we just can't afford this, this is too much. >> health care reform is a great idea in the abstract, it polls well, people want to see health care reform, and then the rubber hits the road when you actually have to put in place something that's going to force people to be covered, something that's going to force costs to be driven down, and that's what the democrats are doing right now, and these are not going to be popular. polls are coming out today to show that this governmental plan is decreasing in popularity, and you have democrats now who have just been forced through in the house in particular a cap and trade bill where they had to increase taxes and slow down -- and do something to slow down the economy. now are going to be faced with another big tax increase, and on top of that, huge cuts in medicare. this is going to be financed on
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the backs of, quote, the wealthy, but also on the backs of seniors, particularly older seniors. brian: between cap and trade, energy, and health care, democrats are pushing it forward, but republicans are sitting out. they're on the record, they're on the clock, and that's scary to a lot of politicians. >> if you're a freshman in one of these districts that they picked up to get the gains, you've got to be scared to death that your president who said he was going to be bipartisan and bring people together, unite the country has gone down a complete partisan -- on the stimulus package, on cap and trade, on health care, it's been a straight party line -- in the house and now it looks like they're going to do the same thing in the flat which is not what anyone expected in january of this year. steve: he's rick santorum, former senator from the great state of pennsylvania. thank you, sir, for joining us today. brian: straight ahead, 40 years after they walked on the moon their footprints still remain.
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live with us from nasa next. steve: but first let's check in with bill hemmer to find out what's at the top of the hour, one small step for a newsman. bill: how are you, steve, brian, good morning to you. a mother's whose son with cystic fibrosis, she claims his life is in danger if health care is passed? also quarter to the hour, 16 minutes from now, a group of muslims got together in chicago ho over the weekend. top of the hour, 12 minutes away here in "america's newsroom," guys.
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>> the eagle has landed. steve: can you remember 40 years ago when they landed on the
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moon? alisyn: of course not, if you're 29. it's hard to remember. steve: absolutely. as you can see right there there was a stiff wind that day as buzz aldrin and neil armstrong planted the flag. we're going to talk to buzz in just a minute. brian: as walter cronkite said there is no wind on the moon, that that is a frame around the flag, and i wonder if it still stands today. and the astronauts themselves discovered for us to get these images you had to have one antenna, receiver, in the desert, and one in australia, and the images are sent down to both and put into houston. steve: right. brian: so because of that they'd have one blurry image, which is the one we see. and the astronauts said wait a second, has anyone checked the tapes, and they said they went there, and they can't find them. alisyn: they've been erased. steve: there were two one-hour tapes, and they simply can't find them.
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we asked you whether or not you think we should return to the moon, and half of you -- about half of you said yes, and about half of you said no. alisyn: that's exactly how we're feeling on the sofa today. brian: steve refuses to take a position, and i firmly want to go back. alisyn: and i don't. steve: i'm with her. we've been to the moon. it's like going on vacation to the same place. brian: what if you like that place? i love what buzz brought back. alisyn: former nasa astronauts, buzz aldrin, charlie bean, and alan dukes are here. nice to see you. >> thank you. good to be here. >> nice to be with you again "fox & friends." alisyn: so, buzz, just share with us for posterity again what it was like that moment that you first set foot on the moon.
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>> for posterity. it was fantastic. it was magnificent, and all of us who were there will never view the moon again in the same way because it's a friend now. it was a stranger before. but we made that one crucial thing. we made that landing of a spacecraft on the surface of another object, and it opened the door for neil to step out, for me to, and for the rest of us to be able to do what humans want to see humans do, and that's to explore. it's written within us and hopefully the other nations of the world will want to have their humans out there, and we should help them with all of our experience, but not necessarily all of our resources as we put into the space station and the space shuttle. it's time for us to have an
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investment in the pathway, the progressive inspiring pathway may take two decades this time to be able to get real close to the surface of mars. that should be our destination. alisyn: i agree with you, buzz. it sounds like you agree with me and not brian. let me ask you, alan, you were the fourth man ever to set foot on the moon. do you think we should go back to the moon? is there more to see there or should we set our sights further on to mars? >> well, i believe that maybe we divert ourselves a little bit to the moon, but in general i think the only thing to do that's exciting to humans on earth right now is to go to mars. see what's there. explore what's there. find out what's going on. and the reason we're doing it is so we understand ourselves better. we understand where we came from. and in the doing of these things we'll develop new technology,
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new materials, new electronics, all of these things that have made the world a better place for the last 40 years. now, this isn't entirely the space program, but a lot of it is, and we'll do the same thing if we'll start a journey and start this kind of investment in research and development and moving civilization forward. we need to do these things. i'm just hoping that when buzz and neil and mike talk to the president today that he can excite president obama into saying maybe this is what this country ought to do. it's changed. we need change. he got elected on change. this would definitely be change for a positive future. alisyn: it would. charlie you served as cap con meaning that you were on the ground, you had direct contact with the shuttle for the first landing. was it as exciting on the ground when buzz and neil took those first steps? >> it was exciting for us.
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we were going through a real moment of anxiety and tension during that descent, communication problems, low fuel, guidance taking them to a very rough place on the moon, and all of that was building up, and i called eagle 30 seconds which meant they had 30 seconds to land on the moon, and you can't believe what a relief we felt in mission control when i heard buzz say "contact, engine stopped." i said man, they're on the man, hopefully upright, and sure enough, they were, and a few seconds later neil came back houston tranquility base here, the eagle has landed, and we literally started breathing again at mission control. what a great thrill to be there. alisyn: it is thrilling to even hear it now 40 years later, buzz aldrin, alan bean, charlie duke, thank you for coming on to share your wreckrecollections.
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steve: that's going to wrap up our program for today. go to the after the show show at foxandfriends.com. we're going to do some more chatting in a couple of minutes. . .
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