"hannity" is next. i am bill o'reilly. we do hope to see you again next time. remember, the spin stops here because we're definitely looking out for you. sean: will health reform sink the anointed one's presidency. >> this isn't about me, this isn't about politics. mayo clinic, many of you have heard of, provides outstanding care, some of the best in the world. sean: the feeling is not mutual. the mayo clinic slams the president's proposal. the democrat's party downward spiral in the polls continues. congresswoman carolyn maloney uses the "n" word. an economist exaggerates global warming. "hannity" starts right here right now. under pressure from the administration democrats are trying to push their health care bill through the congress so

fast the wheels are coming off the train, and that is our headline this tuesday night, obama's third rail. they have so lost control of the issue that members of their own party are now beginning to revolt against them. charlie rangel was heard no one wants to tell the speaker that she is moving too fast, and they damn sure don't want to tell the president. meanwhile the house delayed its vote indefinitely after it failed to gather enough votes from moderate democrats, but the president isn't taking no for an answer. he continues to push the august deadline even though a conference call earlier today made it clear that he hasn't even read key provisions in the bill. so will health care be the president's undoing or will he manage to triumph against the odds as he has shown himself so capable of doing in the past? joining us with answers alexis glick of the fox business network, former white house press secretary and fox news analyst dana perino.

good to see you. here we see the political reports. he's starting to sweat for the first time in his presidency. how much trouble is he in politically? >> well, the stakes are very high, he's raised the bar. he's not even supported by his own party, and the congressional budget office numbers that came out over the past three weeks are really hard to overcome, and i think the best think could could do is hit pause and try again in september. sean: i think that would be the prudent, reasonable thing to do, but i don't think he has the inclination to do it. the biggest headline this week that nobody talked about is that the white house is purposely trying to hide the real economic numbers, meaning their forecasts have been so wrong, they don't want to admit to it the american people. >> well, christina romer has said they're going to come out with their new projections in large part because the work she did along with jared bernstein obviously had the wrong projections when it took a look at the stimulus package.

but the issue here is nobody really understands the urgency, and what the american people are now starting to distrust is that urgency. we all collectively agree we need to do something about costs, we need to do something about the uninsured. the question is how do we do that, and why do we have to have a gun to our head to do it, and that's what people are becoming angry and impatient about. >> remember vice president biden a week or so ago said they misread the economy. then he said no, we just had incomplete information. and now the white house is asking members of congress to take a very important vote with incomplete information, and i think it's imprudent. sean: it's cumulative because they're passing bills they haven't read, the stimulus bill, the cap and tax bill, a lot of these congressmen are feeling the pressure. let me show you how bad it got for this missouri congressman carnehan. look how bad it got.

>> the congressional budget office most recently came out and analyzed the current plan and said that it was not only deficit neutral, which has been one of the important factors for the president and congressional leaders, but also that over ten years it would create a $6 billion surplus. [ laughter ] it's important -- it's important that -- we all listen -- sean: that is an outright rebellion. >> it is, and the rebellion is growing because the numbers are not translating, and the problem is the will of what people expect from this presidency and this administration is wearing thin. it's the expectation game that we talked about a week ago. you set the bar too high.

now, the expectations are far too low for what you can achieve -- far too high. why not lower the expectations on health care, instead of expecting everybody to see a bill in a couple weeks. >> politically they're thinking that could be devastating to him. i don't think that's true. i think that they're trying to push a square peg into a round hole, and as they try -- if they push too hard, everything around it breaks and it's going to make it much harder to get anything else done. he can hit pause and try again. sean: his numbers are going down in every area. >> except on iraq and afghanistan where they kept the bush policies i might add. sean: the americans are very skeptical. they promised unemployment wouldn't go above 8%, they promised a volt to the economy. >> and they promised you could keep your health care, and the question he was asked today was the provision, page 16, that said you might not be able to keep your health care, so i think people are rightly concerned, and that town hall

meeting, i think that's going to happen all around the country which is why they don't want the members to go home in august. >> it goes to something that dick morris has talked a lot about, and i think this is what is frustrating people. if you have people insured in this company, why are we trying to take a system of 185 million and ensure those additional 38 or 45 depending on the estimates you look at as opposed to creating new doctors, new nurses to make up for those that are uninsured. sean: we can't figure this out in two weeks. >> it's not logical, and i thought it was captivating when you watched the president yesterday make those comments in rebuttal to senator jim demint where he suggested this is the president's waterloo, and he said this is not about me, this isn't about politics. well, wait a second. it's not about politics. then why does this bill have to be on your desk in two weeks. sean: because he senses -- i'll tell you why, and i'll answer your own question.

because you're great at asking questions. because the answer is he senses that his political capital that the honeymoon is ending, and this may be his last chance, and this is the problem. the longer people analyze this bill, the longer they realize taxes are going to go up, that rationen is a part of what our health care system -- now will -- have in it, most americans are going to be forced into the government system, they're not going to be able to keep these promises are false just like the stimulus promises were false. >> and that's the problem. they've got the president out a little too often making promises that he can't necessarily keep. it's really dangerous for him to say everybody's going to be able to keep their health care. that's not possible. it's like offering free ice cream for everybody. somebody's going to have to pay. sean: 83 million americans according to the heritage foundation are going to be forced into the government system. the cbo predicted 20 plus million people will be forced out of their private insurance. >> this is one of the most

captivating things to me. when we were talking about for the longest time was the republicans who were concerned about reelection in 2010, and for the first time this week it's crystal clear that this isn't about the republicans who are concerned about reelection, it's now the democrats, and that's to me the biggest sea change that we've seen thus far, and as we were talking about before, what the president says tomorrow night when his own party is not behind him is going to be exceptionally challenging. sean: i don't think he can say anything tomorrow night, and if this vote gets pushed off, he's wasting time night, but were the blue dog democrats, the senate democrats, and now democratic governors all balking at this bill, what does that mean for him? >> every day you see the white house come out and suggest that there are people, meaning republicans, who are against health care reform. i challenge them. name one. name one congressman or senator who has said they are not for

health care reform. sean: they're against government care. >> they're against this bill, and they are willing to try to work on other things. i also think the house members balked today because they realized if they take this vote and the senate doesn't and they're going to be asked to walk the plank on climate, then they're going to look at 1994 all over again. sean: there were 60 democratic congressmen that are in bush-mccain districts. >> very razor thin margin. >> they're worried. i would say you're the president of the united states. be presidential. allow this conversation to continue. don't put a deadline on it. he has the good will, and he will pass this. i think he will, but dana's right. sean: every day that the economy doesn't recover, every day we lose jobs, every day we recognize he broke his word, i think is a day that he does not have any political capital. >> it was said today on capitol hill one of the most important things we can do for this economy is health care reform.

>> not at this price. sean: not at this price. thank you. the president's poll numbers do drop. we'll check in with ann coulter. and we will be bringing you a detailed look inside the obama universal health care plan this thursday night, a special edition of "hannity" devoted strictly to this very important issue. it's called "universal nightmare." a hannity special you don't want to miss. i never thought it could happen to me...

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sean: and tonight in "your america" it appears that many americans have seen all the change that they can handle from president obama, new polls are showing that the electorate has now turned on the anointed one. in fact, the president's average approval rating in the second quarter in office is now actually lower than jimmy carter's numbers were at this time in the same time in his presidency. another survey from public strategies and politico shows only 54% of those polls say they trust obama, and that is a drop of 12 points in just a few months, and the news for the president's party is not much better, only 42% of those polls now say that they trust the democratic party. joining us now is the author of the "new york times" best seller "guilty," liberals, victims, and their assault on america. ann coulter, good to see you in new york. how are you.

>> fine, thanks. sean: this is new ground, eight out of ten -- this is a big change. eight out of ten -- the big issues facing this country now, republicans, are in the lead over the democrats. >> right, right, it's not that big a change. historically this has been the pattern, certainly in my lifetime, which is to say stins the republican party has -- since the republican party has been the conservative party, what happens is americans are more conservative than liberal, as polls also show they vote after eight or 12 years, they get sloppy and start doing their own big government stuff, and americans think how brad can the democrats be, and they put a democrat in, and they remember how bad the democrats can be. you get one term or two years with bill clinton and then suddenly for the next six years clinton is signing everything newt gingrich and the republican congress was sending to him, a major republican takeover after that, and you've seen this pattern going back basically since lbj.

you'll get eight or 12 years of republican, one term or even two years of a democrat government, i'll say, and you're going to see it here. sean: this is the first time he's really hit trouble. >> yes. sean: this is the first time -- americans are saying he's spending too much money. americans now blame him for the economy. >> right. don't trust him. sean: they don't trust him. >> and they shouldn't. sean: he's coming unhinged. >> yes, look at his press conference today, if you can play that without him even speaking, and we knew this was going to happen. this guy can't take one punch. when he starts talking. not just standing. sean: we wouldn't want to interrupt you. >> the walking shots aren't that good. you can see he's becoming unhinged because the media has totally built this guy up, he can't do anything -- the fist bump, it was if he invented the cure for cancer when he did that with his wife. he swats a fly, and they're all

hyperventilating. look how he acts to his critics, you and rush limbaugh, and he lashes out to democrats and says don't listen to this guy. sean: you were very jealous he wasn't attacking you. >> he did attack me in his first book. but the point is if this guy is so upset by criticism from people who are on the opposite side of the spectrum, what's going to say as these polls as inevitably will happen start to fall on him as americans realize that oh, he really is a liberal, it's not just a charming speech maker. sean: why is it so many americans put their faith in government? why would they put their faith in obama when every promise he made about the economy, the stimulus, job creation, every promise has now been broken, and it's so bad he wants to hide the numbers from the american people? >> that was an interesting thing, and one of the polls in politico today was something like 40% of americans think that health care will be more expensive if we have a massive

government takeover. 27% think it will be less expensive. now, that's who we've got to interview. who are these people? less expensive? sean: they're dreaming. >> he said we've got to pass this stimulus bill otherwise unemployment's going to go up, we're going to at least keep it, we'll have it go down again, it could get as high as 8%, now it's 9.5%, of course he's losing credibility, and now he's saying we have to pass this health care bill now. he's saying -- let me finish this one point. he is saying that money will go down. if you have a national take enginetakeover of the government. no one can believe that. sean: everyone knows taxes are going to go up, rationing is going to be guaranteed, quality is going to decline, and most governments are going to be forced into the system. the question becomes political. there's a poll out that came out

this week, in that mitt romney in a hypothetical matchup would tie barack obama and governor palin only a few points away. >> right. sean: how do you interpret that. >> i've notices a lot of the polls that romney is doing quite well. sean: are you supporting him? >> possibly. i think we have to wait -- or get out there a little bit faster the next time. sean: how about governor palin? >> the last minute when republican primary voters go for the worst possible candidate, and we're saying no, no, not him. sean: you voted for governor palin. >> i did, i loved her, and i do think with romney -- sean: and how about newt gingrich? >> it could well be romney because -- primary voters seem to vote for any name they've heard before which isn't so good whether the name is mccain, it might be good with romney, what romney has to do, he has to get out and explain what was wrong were the health care program he did in massachusetts, he has to

take control of this issue, now is the time. sean: what about newt? >> i don't -- i'd take romney more palin i think. i think gingrich should be the talker in chief. sean: because he's smart. >> the talker. sean: we'll get to the bottom of this one. thanks for being with us. wait until you hear what the mayo clinic has to say about the socialized system of the president coming up straight ahead. you are one person, but you can move a nation.

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sean: and tonight in "hannity's america," it's a case of disappearing pork. now, yesterday we told you about millions of stimulus dollars that had been directed to things like ham. water added. cooked. two pounds frozen ham sliced. and canned pork. now, the administration yesterday came under scrutiny for spending on those items, and guess what? today they're mysteriously absent from the recovery.gov web site. the "new york daily news" reports that they've all been relabeled meat, poultry, and fish. well, maybe this is what the president meant when he kept saying change, change, change. congresswoman carolyn maloney's bid to unseat new york senator kirsten gilllibrand could be over before it even starts.

maloney is expected to announce her candidacy next week is now embroiled in a major controversy after she used the "n" word in an interview when talking about her potential opponent. the congresswoman was describing a call she received from somebody complaining about senator gilllibrand and said, quote, i got a call from someone from puerto rico that said senator gilllibrand went to puerto rico and came out for english only education and he said it was like saying the "n" word to a puerto rican. well, yesterday she issued an apology and said she regrets saying a word she finds disgusting. president obama has made no secret for his admiration for the mayo clinic. >> there are some places like the mayo clinic, many of you have heard of, provides outstanding care, some of the best in the world. people fly in from everywhere to go to mayo clinic.

turns out mayo provides care much more cheaply than a lot of other health systems. >> places like mayo clinic in minnesota are able to provide some of the best health care services in the country. sean: turns out the feeling is not mutual. mayo clinic officials voiced fierce opposition to the health care scheme cooked up by congress writing the proposed legislation misses the opportunity to help create higher quality, more affordable health care for patients. the real losers will be the citizens of the united states. now, mr. obama would be wise to listen to the very professionals he has praised so highly. and tonight's meltdown is brought to you by one angry and desperate nobel prize winning economist. he recently revealed that he's willing to say anything to promote the false science of global warming.

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sean: the president's trying to fulfill key campaign promises on health care and climate change, but dwindling public support may prevent him from doing so. 40% of americans surveyed say the president's health care proposal would make health care in this country worse, not better, and similarly 44% of those polls said that rationing care would drive up the cost. only 27% think it would lower costs while 29% said prices would stay about the same. so will public opinion affect how the president proceeds with health care reform? here to discuss this is the president of the word doctors and pollster frank luntz is here. good to see you. >> pleasure, thank you. sean: you've got -- you study words, language, this is what you do, and you come up with the best terminology to use during debates like this. for example, you have luntz

lessons. humanize the approach, acknowledge, quote, the crisis. explain those. >> you have to humanize it. this is not about health care, the health care system, it's about people, mothers, fathers, children, grandparents, and if you just talk about the system itself, you lose the personal approach. sean: and acknowledge the crisis. >> you have to admit that if people aren't insured, it's a crisis for them. if they can't get tests for their kids or they can't get treatment for their parents, it's a crisis. don't try to night the definition. you have to have the right solution. sean: i'm not really sure how to interpret. time matters most. delayed care is denied care. that doesn't mean rush into a bad policy. >> correct, but that's the essence of having to wait for treatment, having to wait for tests. if it takes weeks or months, and this is what happens with breast cancer or treatment. if you go to canada or britain you can wait four months, six

months, even longer. sean: who should decide health care? politicians, bureaucrats, or washington? >> the public says i don't want any of those people making the decisions for me and my health. sean: and either side would argue that health care quality, getting the care you need when you need it, and that would be good for both sides? >> the key there is that it is not just the issue of covering people, it's the issue of how you cover them, it's what you provide to them. health care in itself is not good enough. they want it to work, they want it to make you healthy again, and that's not what the democrats are talking about. sean: and one size doesn't fit all? >> because we're deaf. you're in shape, i'm not. i'm going to need more health care than you need. sean: not necessarily. >> but you can't say -- sean: you don't work out. >> yeah, i work out with my fingers, my polling fingers. sean: they got the economy wrong, how do we trust them? how do we trust the people that

screwed up the economy, that said unemployment wouldn't go above 8% with health care? >> and they said to us with this bailout that things would change. health care is the most important decision that anyone's going to make in their lifetime. it is truly life and death. it's not about buying a car, it's not about cable. sean: we have been continuing our ongoing series. you've been analyzing all the ads that came out. and you have one that's the best and one is the worst. let's look at the best. >> absolutely. >> almost everyone agrees we should reform health care. but many in congress want to create a government-run health insurance plan paid for by taxpayers at huge costs. independent experts say tens of millions of americans could lose their current insurance and wind up on this public plan. england already has government-run health care, and their breast cancer survival rate is much lower. if you find a lump, you could wait months for treatment and potentially life saving drugs

could be restricted. government control of health care here could admit that 300,000 american woman with breast cancer might have died. sean: this did well with republicans, why. >> because it's personal, it talks about the consequences of getting it wrong, and it focuses on the time it takes to get treatment. these are the things that americans care about. war about to see another one -- we're about to see another one. don't bring an actress to talk about health care. what does she know? let's take a look. >> i'm edie falco, and i support health care for america now. i spent many years without melt coverage. i know the feeling of hoping that your symptoms go away before you have to get money together to see a doctor. i know worrying about it makes it even harder to get together. i still have friends and family in this position. my situation is different now. i have health care, i have good doctors, i'm treated very well, and i'm grateful for this. i also know that no one person is any more worthy of any such

treatment. sean: both democrats and republicans didn't like it that much. >> the reaction when we spoke to them was what does she know? she plays someone on tv. sean: she plays a mobster's wife of all people. >> and now we're going to trust her with health care. sean: you have been doing some polling, and i want to share this with our audience. you say how effective is the government at regulating health care in the united states? extremely effective, 0.6%, very effective, 3.1%, very ineffective, 32, extremely effective 20.5. >> and you want to turn the entire health care system to them? this is all meant as language. ask the question. if these are the people that gave you the post office, the irs, and katrina. sean: and the department of motor vehicles. >> do you now want them to give you health care? sean: the answer is obvious, the american people are screaming

no. >> and the next question, mo do you blame -- who do you blame for the high health care costs, number one, waste, fraud, and abuse. sean: who do you blame. i'm surprised that they don't blame -- government was not an option here. >> except that waste, fraud, and abuse, they see that as government, and what they're asking is before you raise my taxes, you solve your problem. before you take more money out of my pocket. sean: fix what you're doing wrong. >> fix what you're doing wrong and tell me exactly how you're going to spend it. sean: the very people that bankrupted social security and medicare. which of the following describe the way you want to think of yourself? a human being, 32.5%, that seems like the logical answer, a patient, 26.8%. sean: and if you are in the

public plan, you're a number. is that how you want to be treated. sean: no. >> that's the issue. sean: which consequence of government involvement in health care two anger you more, and these are very predictable. waiting weeks or months to get a procedure or treatment that you need, 44.4%, the rationing of health care, 26.3%, which is guaranteed, american seniors may be denied treatment because of their age. betsy mccoy found that provision on page 425 of the bill that they're going to give counseling to seniors about options. that sounds like they're going to say well, you've lived a good life. >> what happens if they don't tell seniors what their options are. this is how the germans do it. you don't know that you could qualify for a specific procedure or medication, and it's frightening. if a mom has a child who desperately needs tests and treatment, and that mom can't

get that childcare right then and there, that's a crisis. sean: that's canada, that's great britain, that's france. that will be america. >> and if you believe us out there, you've got to use the right words to communicate it effectively. sean: government-run health care. government takeover of health care. i've got to get this per next. frank, good to see you. coming up senator jim demint sounded the rally cry for republicans earlier this week on stopping the democrats' health care plan, and the president is not happy about it. listen to this. >> just the other day one republican senator said, and i'm quoting him now, "if we're able to stop obama on this, it will be his waterloo. it will break him." sean: could this actually be president obama's waterloo? the "great american panel" is coming up next. welcome to the now network. population 49 million.

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noelle nickpour is back with us. people don't trust the president, people are scared he's spending way too much money, people want him to put the brakes on. where does this go from here? >> he's become actually too liberal for some moderate democrats, and he as far as i'm concerned is very radical for the republicans. look, he pushed and pushed and pushed to get this $787 billion stimulus through, it was an emergency. people are not falling for the health care emergency as well. sean: throughout my whole career is i've always wanted to underpromise and overdeliver. obama way overpromised and has underdelivered, and he's still pushing for more and more and more. people don't trust him. his numbers are have been so off. they don't believe him. >> his numbers are exactly where reagan's numbers were in the first term. sean: wait a minute. of the last 12 presidents he's number ten -- at this point in his presidency he is the tenth

lowest. >> first of all, he's dealing with a major economic recession, and reagan's numbers were in that same situation when you're dealing with record unemployment. >> julie, he sold his whole campaign promise was on hope and on change, and i think he has become the president of hype and chump change. sean: andrew, they said we'll feel an immediate impact. unemployment wouldn't go above 8%. >> i think that julie made an interesting point comparing barack obama to ronald reagan because i think he's a reverse ronald reagan because ronald reagan was loathe by the mainstream media, and the american people once he was the president was no longer seen as the evil or stupid man, he was a reasonable man that had the country's best interest at heart. the media has pitched barack obama as the messiah. >> expectations are so high for

obama, he's in a very difficult situation. he's trying to tackle many different subjects, and many other presidents have failed, bush couldn't get the privatization of social security, presidents do fail. they're not infallible. >> his disdainment for capitalism is showing. >> first of all for health care universal health care is the right thing to do, and there's a great proposal on the table -- sean: julie. >> for bulgaria. sean: that's funny. government care, taking over the car companies, taking over banks, insurance companies, financial institutions, dictating pay, that is the very heart of the definition of socialism. let's call it what it is. why are you running away from the left supports. >> i'm not running away from it. sean: you. >> he was elected with record numbers, and he was elected on this idea that the government is -- the government can and should make people's lives better. it's the humanitarian -- form of

government. sean: where does it say you have to have guaranteed health care. >> i believe in universal health care. sean: i don't care. where in the constitution does it say every american should have rationed government inferior care. >> it doesn't have to be. sean: it will be. >> 99% of americans will be covered, revenue neutral, wouldn't cost any money. sean: the cbo says -- let me bring breitbart in here. >> one of their tactics is to go after the people who would krutnize the president, and one of their tactics is to say that socialism is a ridiculous term that we're not allowed to use, but on may 1st i went to a tea party in pasadena, california, i'm going to one in qunicy, illinois, on the 12th of september, i think americans should get behind the tea party movement, and i found out the same day as the tea party there was a may date parade in downtown los angeles, where the

socialists, the self-avoided socialists had barack obama posters. they're proud, but it's the conservatives who get upstet and get into trouble for calling him one. >> what about transparency and accountability? it's nowhere to be found, and you've got to real -- >> how can you say that it's nowhere to be found? you think in the bush administration you had transparency on guantanamo? >> bush didn't sell himself on that. obama sold himself on accountability and transparency. 56% -- sean: let me follow up on that. >> terrorists in jail wearing orange reading the quran all day. sean: barack obama did promise transparency. why are they delaying the economic information that they currently have that would show that every projection they've made on the economy is wrong, the debt is higher, the deficits are higher, we have greater problems that have been caused by their spending. why hide that from the american people prior to the health care debate? >> i don't think they're trying

to hide it. sean: why won't they release it. >> because it's complicated stuff. they have to make sure that they have their facts right. the last thing they should do is release information that's not accurate. they're doing that on gitmo where they didn't -- they missed a deadline, they're not putting the -- sean: isn't it more likely they don't want to release the information that his projections on the economy, breitbart -- you don't mind me using your last name -- was so wrong, how can you trust their numbers when they've said unemployment won't go above 8%, the deficit won't go above these numbers. now they're giving out new numbers for health care that we've got to assume are going to be equally as wrong. >> what barack obama wants to do right now is reengage the net roots and people to start fighting for him. we now know they were completely behind barack obama, the mainstream media, and today he put out a twitter thing telling people that the people who object to the socialism -- to socializing of the system, he's

saying that we're putting the lives and the livelihoods of america at risk which is going to mobilize these people to start attacking us for criticizing him, which is campaign mode. he loves the campaign mode. sean: we've got to take a break. we'll come back. . quality and reliability...

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sean: and we continue now with our great american panel. so is this obama's waterloo? >> i think two things that happen in the last months that have been devastating, because he is a man that uses symbols, uses the media very well. one was the teleprompter, and how you reacted to that. second, when he threw out the ball at the all-star game and it bounced and he pitched like an indonesian teenaged girl. sean: aw. do you want to respond to that? >> i do not want to respond to the "indonesian teenaged girl." i do want to respond to the fact that i do not think he should have done this health-care issue. it costs too much money. there isç a far superior

alternative. sean: the reality is that the one that is being pushed, the one that he has put all of his political capital behind, he is the one that is in the house of representatives,ç and the stimulus has cost too much. the omnibus has cost too much. obama spending is going to be $23 trillion, with a t, trillion dollars. , nine out of 10 americans according to "the l.a. times" says he is spending too much money --trillion dollars. 9/10 americans say he is spending too much money. >> he has to come up with another alternative. sean: the problem is he knows he is slipping and that his highest numbers may have come and gone. >> do not tell obama what the number is after $1 trillion.

>> he is like a magician, and once you realize that he is very good with rhetoric, and that he is very good with giving speeches and speaking off of teleprompter, once you see those tricks and that it is not met with action, he said he was going to go to the world and get stuck in return for being such a great person. hillary clinton got nothing, and he got nothing in russia. when people realize there is nothing behind the rhetoric -- >> china, india, they are not going to do it. that is a perfect example. >> we saw it with clinton when he could not pass health care. sean: i will tell meç what the difference is between obama and clinton. clinton all of a sudden got smart, and he said something about that, and we are going to "end welfare as weç know it a pure " he dealt with republicans -- "end welfare as

we know it." he dealt with republicans. >> i think, in fact, he is ideologue. i do not think he is stupid. but i do believe he is an ideologue. sean: i think he is jeremiah wright and bill ayers. >> i do not think you can say that. sean: no? he sat in that church for 20 years. i think you are wrong. i think he hid from the american people who he is. >> absolutely. >> sitting in a church like that for 20 years and in not having an effect on you, and bill ayers, , on -- and it's not having an effect on you, and, come one. sean: it is ok to hang out with a guy who was bombing the pentagon and capitol. wait a minute. he sat on boards with him.

he gives speeches with him. and he had meetings and the guy's -- in the guy's house. >> in sixç months' time, he has led us down the road to socialism. >> putting humpty dumpty back together, because they have expended so muchç energy to create him in the first place. he is going to rely in the coming months on the internet to try to turn it into a campaign. sean: his is more than a campaign. it is also a smear -- it is more than a campaign. even john kyl. fox, rush. >> it is time to fight. that is all i can say. the thing is is that we have been intimidated, and they are

bullies. they are just bullies. they are tax increase belize. that is chicago. -- they are a tax increase -- they are tax increase bullies. >> if you look at the poll numbers, what people are tired of it is partisan politics. let me finish the and we have got one of the most important policy issues of the century, and universal health care. sean: they are pushing it down our throats. they are not allowing debate. >> i agree he is approaching it in a absolutely -- in absolutely the wrong way. sean: , rahm emanuel is not a bully -- sean: rahm emanuel is not a bully. there you go. well, are great, great, -- our great, great