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>> right. bill: for example, doctors and nurses not being paid as much as they are now in the private system will leave the practice. >> they'll stop practicing. bill: they'll become lawyers. there will be fewer medical professionals. are you sure that would happen? >> of course. it's happened in canada. secondly, if you're cutting medical incomes, that's going to drive doctors out of medicine. when he says he's going to cut medical costs, there are only two ways to do that. cut the money that doctors make. bill: well, he has to do that because that's one of the big drivers. >> and that means fewer doctors, or, and, cut back the care. bill: can he cut the price of drugs because the government will buy them in mass? >> yeah, they can, that's a good thing. bill: so it's not all bad. >> and he can require generic drugs for brand names, he can do that, that's good also. but those savings are already factored in before we get to the trillion dollars over the next
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ten years that this thing is going to cost. bill: some conservatives on the radio particularly don't want any intrusion into the health care system. they say leave it alone. that's insane. >> well -- bill: you've got to do something. >> well, first of all, bill, there are 50 million uninsured people. ok. 10 million are illegal immigrants who are going to get covered under this thing. this thing takes care from the elderly and gives it to the immigrants. bill: why does it take care from the elderly? >> if you're going to ration medical care, who's not going to get the hip replacement, the 40-year-old or the 80-year-old. bill: because if he's old he won't get it. >> and a quarter of the healthcare dollars are spent in the patient's last part of their life. that's where they're going no cut it. bill: the life expectancy you expect to drop? >> yes, absolutely, just like in kran da, the cancer death rate is 16% higher. bill: morris' book "catastrophe"
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deals with a lot of stuff very specifically. i understood everything you said. >> good. bill: tonight. don't agree wit all? >> you know why? i weren't to columbia. it's better than harvard. bill: mark lamont hill has a different view. and later a big controversy surrounding erin andrews. surrounding erin andrews. this o o o o o one o oññ
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call the number on your screong♪ ♪ how long ♪ bill: the president answered questions for 46 minutes, many of them about health care. here now dr. mark lamont hill, an obama supporter and fox news analyst. ok. now, you get my point here, i'm sure, that even people who are in the business, who have education, don't know what he's talking about. >> well, people in the business may have been looking for
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something different. bill: i wasn't looking for anything. i just want to know what he wants to do. >> he said what he was going to do, but what you were looking for were specifics. bill: that's what -- when you're going to do something, specifics tells you what you're going to do. >> i'm with you. i agree. i was looking for numbers, specifics on where the money was coming from. part of what he was doing was responding to the broader public discourse. there's a lot of fear mongering going on trying to say this this is going to crumble the american economy. bill: you think that reassured anybody? >> oh, absolutely. this is what he does. he says look, many people are saying we can't invest in health care right now because we have a crumbling economy. in order to save and stabilize the economy we must reform health care. bill: here's the deal. if you like barack obama and believe in him, you'll believe him. if you don't like him and don't believe him, you're not going to believe him, like morris, however, most people are in the middle. they can be persuaded one way or the other. he didn't -- i guarantee you that the polls that come out
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tomorrow and friday are going to drive his numbers even further down. >> i don't think so. bill: do i get that tie if i'm right? >> you can have it if you're right. you're not going to be right. bill: he's 55% americans don't like his health care approach according to gallup this week. that's a huge reversal. i'm telling you after tonight it's going to high 50's, maybe 60. >> those same polls will say 72% of americans also favor a public option. bill: and they do, they want it, but not this way barack obama is delivering it to them because they don't understand it. >> here's where we agree. he should have given more specifics. i wanted to know where the money was coming from. i was happy to know it was coming from you, not me, but he didn't get into specifics about how that was going to happen. what he did say was that two-thirds of it is already in the system. that assures the american people that this isn't some sort of scavenger hunt for money. bill: i don't know why you're being so naive. that's what he says. what he says and what's true -- you know -- i'm not saying he's consciously lying, i'm saying he's spinning it.
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>> i don't think so. bill: i know you don't because you like him. >> he's making it seem like if there's a problem it's coming from the right. if there's a problem it's coming from democrats. bill: it worries me that my medical history and your medical history is now going to be on a disk in washington, d.c. rather than the confidentiality of a doctor-patient which we have had in this country for decades. that's gone. >> that's not true. bill: yeah, it is. it's on a disk in d.c. >> obama didn't say that. that's one of the big myths is that the government's going to intrude upon the patient-doctor relationship. bill: let's stay with the data. >> with regard to the data. bill: the data is going to go to a bank in washington, d.c. it has to. >> you're talking in terms of some bureaucratic process. bill: no, i'm talking about you, dr. mark lamont hill, having a condition, whatever the condition is. now your physician knows it, and the physician tries to heal you.
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>> seems appropriate. bill: that, that's what it's been, and that's the way it should be. patient-doctor confidentiality. with his program, that's gone. it goes to d.c., and the bureaucracy decides how to treat you, not your physician. doesn't that worry you? >> it doesn't worry me at all. once again you have a private option and a public option. if these things don't work, then it's the other way. that was obama's point. bill: you don't mind having your condition whatever it may be leave your doctor's office and go to d.c.? >> and be part of a health care system. it's not going to congress, it's going to a health care system. bill: it's going to a data bank that can be accessed. ok, if you don't mind it, i do, and that's a big concern of mine. we don't have any privacy as it is in this country. and now. >> that's partly because of the right's intrusion, but there's a bigger issue here than the privacy of your individual medical records, there's 50 million uninsured americans. what are we going to do about them? he addressed that. bill: no, he didn't. he said he was going to put 48
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of them on the rolls. he didn't say how or where they'll go. he didn't say whether there will be clinics or doctors. >> i wish he had said that, and i wish the press corps had pushed him. bill: he took an hour of prime time and bloviates in general terms which he's done 15 other times. >> he didn't bloviate in general terms. he gave far more -- bill: when are you going to start challenging the president. >> i think we are. bill: to do his job and to tell the american people here's what it is, here's what's going to happen, here's what's going to pay for it. >> he did that. he said his preferred option was to have that other third come from the wealthiest americans. bill: ok. final question for you. you have a system now that's chaos. the current system. all right. and i'm with you. we need to overhaul the system.
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i want to do it through private savings accounts and strict government oversight with a clinic safety net for the poor. that's what i want to do. >> oh, my god. bill: and i can make that work. >> welcome to the left. bill: with not a lot of money, with cutting out corruption, i can make that system work. now that's my plan. my plan is better than his plan. >> that's what he talked about, he talked about efficiency, oversight, regulation, all of the things that you just articulated. bill: he doesn't want private savings accounts for health, i didn't hear any of the clinics, he wants to give the money directly to the people, the insurance. that has ruined the state of massachusetts. it has ruined it. they're collapsing up there, so all i'm going is on available data. >> if you look at developed nations around the world, this type of health care reform has led to efficiency, decreased spending, and better health care for everybody. bill: and i said i'd give you the last word. i lied. there is nobody going to canada to try to get on their medical rolls from the united states.
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nobody. the care is better and quicker. >> tell it to the 50 million people who don't have any coverage. bill: mark lamont hill, everybody. i'm going to get that tie. monica crowley says watch out, and alan >> sources confirmed that one of osama bin laden' sonss sons s killed in an air strike. it occurred in pakistan. they are telling us that nobody has been recovered at this time. there is as much as an 85% chance that this is true.
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the sun has no ties to al qaeda. -- the bond soso hasn no ties tl qaeda. -- the son has no ties to al qaeda. police are investigating an incident at a university. at least three people have been shot at three different locations. it is near texas southern university. one is on campus. the other take off campus. occurred during an event that is being held by someone running for mayor. it is not clear if the victims were university students. another developing story we are following, the interim governor -- government of honduras may allow the ousted president to return. the terms of the return of being
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handled by a mediator. until now, the supreme court and congress have resisted allowing him to return. this is a sign that international pressure is beginning to take effect. he was deposed last month in a military coup. sources are confirming that they believe one of osama bin laden's sons were killed in an air strike. he had been living in pakistan since 2008. officials say there is as much as an 85% chance that the report is true. police in houston are investigating multiple shootings at texas southern university. the spokesperson says at least three people have been shot at three different locations. no word on their conditions. we will continue to follow that story. thank you for watching fox news. bill: in the obama in a hard place tonight, monica crowley has a beef with how the
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president treats people with whom he disagrees, and alan colmes has no such beef. you have a broader point you'd like to make which is. >> i've noticed a real trend in how president obama goes after honest opponents of his policies. he uses the word "scare tactic." in fact it's the scare tactic scare tactic. he tries to paint republicans and even in his own party on this health care deal, conservative and moderate democrats -- well, unless we adopt his plan, things are going to get so much worse. he did it on cap and trade. remember. unless we do it right now we're all going to be living in a sewer, and the economic stimulus. bill: that's been used as a political tactic since george washington. come on now. it's not unusual. >> here is the point, and here is the twist. the reason it is so appalling is
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because he campaigned for a president on a different kind of politics. he was going to usher in a different era. bill: and you were buying that? >> i didn't buy it, i didn't vote for him. bill: martin van buren said it. >> last point. that's what he accused bush of doing on islamic terror, he said bush and cheney were using scare tactics. >> you were not alive during van buren. bill: i'm going to give you one example of why i'm scared. and that is if the government starts to run the health care industry, they're going to have my health care records. >> they don't know anything about you. bill: that's right. we're going to surrender the last bit of privacy we have. >> you've already done that. bill: you're not scared about that. >> no, because they already know about you. bill: well, they try. >> it's not going to be a big deal. bill: you don't care? >> it's laughable to hear scare
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tactics and obama coming out of the mouths of bush supporters. it's laughable because there's a double standard. it didn't bother you when bush did it. bill: i think there were a few people in new york city where you live that were worried about islamic terrorists. >> not iraq. bill: overall islamic terrorism is something to be worried about as are medical records. >> a mushroom cloud from iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. >> you're totally missing the point. >> no, i'm not. bill: there was a speech in front of the naacp. president obama speaking in front of the naacp. go. >> we've got to say to our children, yes, if you're african-american, the odds of growing up amid crime and gangs are higher. yes, if you live in a poor neighborhood, you will face challenges that somebody in a wealthy suburb does not have to
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face. but that's not a reason to give bad grades. that's not a reason to cut class. that's not a reason to give up on your education and drop out of school. no one has written your destiny for you, your destiny is in your hands, you cannot forget that. bill: ok. so i like that speech. that was good. >> he said the same kind of things bill cosby has said, he has said things, for example, when he says african-americans have to be known for things other than sports and music. a white president could never have made a speech like that. he talked no excuses. he was inspirational. bill: i can't argue with that. can you argue with that? >> no, i don't. i agree with alan. i thought it was a great speech. alan is right, only a black president could say this. >> repeat alan is right a few times. >> you better enjoy it. obama gave the right message. the problem is that many in the black community are saying that's not enough. so he gives a great speech,
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that's great. we want to see him do more. and, in fact, on the economy you've got blacks across the country saying it's hitting our community even more. bill: they still support him, though. the black american community supports obama. that's probably his strongest precinct right now. we all three agree that a message to african-americans that look, no more excuses, we've gone over this ground, i'm now president, america's a place where anything can happen. the problem with barack obama, though, is sometimes the rhetoric is very effective as it is there, and sometimes the rhetoric, holmes, is just bs, and the health care is the best example of a capital b and a capital s, and you know it. >> whether you like his plan or not, we wouldn't be having a debate about health care right now. the fact that he's even talking about it, something will get done. we can debate the merits or lack thereof. bill: i'm going to record as saying nothing is going to get
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done this year in health care because it's such a crazy thing and that obama may have hurt his credibility among the american people so that the other things he might want to get done are going to be harder. >> absolutely because the spending that he's already put in place is blowing up the deficit, blowing up national debt, you've got conservatives and moderate democrats who are blowing this thing up. it's not the republicans. he's going to lose enormous credibility because he -- bill: i'm worried about that a little bit in the sense that we don't want a chaotic country six months into the new administration. >> he'd have a better chance if he talked about single payer. >> forget it, colmes, not happening. bill: when we come right back, "miller time." the d man, plenty jazzed, about the barbara boxer racial controversy, and paula abdul perhaps leaving " " " " " " " "
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bill: thanks for staying with us, i'm bill o'reilly, in the "miller time" segment tonight, let's bring in the critic of chaos where he's closely watching the barbara boxer racial controversy. i have to set this up. harry alford, head of the black chamber of commerce took exception to barbara boxer using other black groups to refute his disenchantment with various obama policies, and you say what? >> this is the most cathartic thing i've seen in the last ten years of my life. i mean harry was on my radio show today. he's beautiful. he said i'm there to talk cap and trade. she wants to go to colored town. bill: colored town. >> that's the greatest thing i've ever heard. i haven't seen a boxer bloodied like that since chuck weptner, and it's about time it caught up
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to these people on the left. this is like bill clinton splitting south carolina during the campaign on his way out they asked what he makes of the results, obama coming in ahead, and he says well, jesse jackson did well here too, and i'm thinking what's the connection there? what are they, just one big black guy to these people? it's unbelievable. bill: it's very interesting, because as it evolves it becomes clearer and clearer. when i first saw it, i was mornemore focused on harry alford's response, but then i started watching her presentation. instead of arguing the merits of cap and trade, boxer used black americans against another black american, and that is what alford picked up on right from the jump, and a lot of whites i think missed it. it's like she didn't debate the
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merits of. >> i didn't miss it. bill: you got it, because you're brilliant. >> nothing pleased me more than when she said i've got some stuff here from the naacp, and harry goes why? that was -- bill: i thought we were talking about cap and trade. >> he's i'm here to talk cap and trade. what are you doing? listen, i talked to harry today. i said harry, would you rather have your racism come at you in a sheet with a burning cross or like this? he said at least with a cross i know who to keep my eyes on. bill: ok. it was very interesting. now, on the subject of cap and trade, prince charles, that noted noted ekolgs, went to the annual richard dimbelldee lecture, and
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he said the earth has 96 moments to revert an ecosystem collapse. only 96 months left, miller, and we're all going, according to prince charles at the dimbelldee lecture. >> good. i won't have to listen to this mindless crap anymore. good. incinerate me. prince charles has said the only reason this isn't completely up his ars is his ears are so big. what has this guy ever done? he lays around. the one time he had it in his life was when he was with princess diana. he decides to cheat on her with an even more beautiful woman, and all of the sudden he's an expert on this stuff. i know he has investments in this with the prince's trust. it's as incestuous as his family tree. do you want to get into
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dimbellbee? >> i saw "harry potter," and he's one of my favorite characters. bill: i know your heart is breaking that paula abdul may leave "american idol." >> she's a wise latina woman. she should leave and sonia sotomayor should join "american idol." she has prearranged ideas. you take our man harry alford and put him on the supreme court. bill: do you know paula abdul? why would she want to leave a program that has made her very famous and wealthy to go to exactly what? what else is out there for paula? i'm not exactly sure? >> well, listen, paula's been pretty good at whatever she's touched, i'm not saying she's madam curry, but she's good on that show, they offered her 10,
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she wants 20, seacrest has 15, and you've got to give simon a hundred, randy's the cool one, you could tell he played bass in a band. you can have paula for $15 million, and she's a nice counter balance to simon. he's the real world, she's the real world of pegasus and doug henning, so she'll probably get a few more mill out of it. i don't think she's going anywhere. bill: i don't either. >> where are you going to make 15 million does tv other than "idol" and "the factor"? bill: it's a hard world out there right now, so everybody -- >> no, i meant me. bill: now today for lunch i had two hebrew national hot dogs. ok. >> nice. bill: and they were delicious.
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they were the best. but i go home, and then the cancer project is telling me they're going to file a lawsuit on behalf of some jersey people saying that hot dogs cause cancer, and they have to be labeled like cigarettes. hot dogs. so at the ball game it's get your frank here, could cause cancer here. is that what we want? >> listen, here's my feeling on hot dogs. i know they're crap. that's what i dig about them. i don't need a warning label on them. just like when people that smoke cigarettes say there was no warning on them. if they didn't know they were dangerous, they're lying through the hole in their trachea. for god's sake, who's the wiener here? bill: you would not put warning labels on hot dogs? frightening the children? >> only if they were delicious
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and when i bit into the warning label it had a nice snap to it. bill: this is just going to redefine baseball games, picnics, barbecues, i mean you just can't win, miller. you can't win. >> we're losers. we've turned into a loser cull clur. bill: we are. >> we're whiney losers. bill: we're cap and trading, we're having health care things that nobody knows about, and now we can't eat hot dogs. dennis miller, everybody. >> i'm going to start eating hot dogs with cigarettes in them. bill: up next a brand-new segment, did you see that? tone showing courtney free lan tone showing courtney free lan go climb a tree. or discover things you've only read about. get the gear to get it done at bass pro shops.
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segment, a brand-new segment called "did you see that"? we'll show you two situations that we feel we're discussing. first of erin andrews is the victim of a video assault. apparently somebody's been following her around and drilling holes in walls in hotels to tape her undressing. now, the shots have appeared on the internet, and her attorney says the situation has reached criminal status. with us now foxnews.com correspondent courtney friel and jane skinner. jane, we'll begin with you. we're not going to show you anymore of that. i had to show you what they think is criminal intent here, but i'm not going to show anymore video of this because this is ultra disturbing and a very serious crime. >> 31 years old, happens to be drop dead gorgeous, playboy's
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sexist sportscaster of the year a couple years running. this may have happened to her twice. some sicko sets up one of those little tiny cameras that may be in the peephole of her door. bill: they drilled holes. >> a couple of different theories throughout. she was walking around by herself, she was naked, you saw, doing her hair, doing her makeup. they put it online, and a couple of days ago her attorney said it is indeed her. bill: what kind of a world do we live in, courtney, if you can't go into your hotel room and live a normal life? >> that's why this is a big deal. because women everywhere are going to be so paranoid. it's 2009, and unfortunately there are cameras everywhere. you have to keep your clothes on or stay in shape and be comfortdable with yourself. bill: people make mistakes trusting people they shouldn't, but i feel that this should be a felony and that states have to
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now start to introduce new laws about cyber stalking. cyber stalking laws. >> courtney and i were talking about this. only 19 states have these peeping tom laws. bill: it has to go beyond peeping toms. it has to go with cyber stalking with intent to put on the internet. peeping toms just look at something. this has been put on the internet worldwide. all right. so the crime is so much more intense. so cyber stalking has to become a felony, i believe. >> and if you try to look for this video, don't because they'll send you an email saying they have the clip and a virus will mess up your computer. bill: you'll get in a lot of trouble. >> and a lot of people will say that the laws are outdates. these web sites are protected by federal law. bill: we have to redesign that whole thing. ok. there's this guy, chris bound, you know about him, he beat up his girlfriend, was convicted,
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didn't get jail time, and he should have, and he's continually talking about this. >> since february my attorney has asked me not to speak out ever since i wanted to publicly express my deep regress and express full responsibility. although i will do some interviews and answer some questions i felt it was time you hear from me that i am sorry. i have tried to live my life in a way that can make those around me proud of me and until recently i was doing a pretty good job. bill: what do you think? >> some people think this is going to go down as the worst apology of the year. clearly he's reading a script. it's a two-minute video. he's looking down at a teleprompter that is below the camera. if you're going to apologize to someone, you need to be looking them in the eye. bill: i thought this guy was a pinhead from the jump, he bought a big $3,000 bling that said oops or some crazy thing. look. i don't care about this guy. i don't care what he says. i don't care anything about him, but this has gotten 5 million
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hits or something. >> yeah, over a million on his youtube page, but online polls, they don't believe him. they don't think he's sincere. >> the question is is he sincere, and did it come too late? bill: do you care about this guy? >> i think he can set a good example. he's a young kid. he turned 20 years old. he's a very talented kid. for years he tried to cultivate this good kid image, that he was somebody that you'd be ok if your little kids were listening to his music. if he keeps his nose clean, and turns out some good music, he can be nor given. what set him back is when somebody leaked that picture of rhianna. bill: ladies, very good, thank you very much, we appreciate it. "pinheads and patriots" tonight starring tyler perry and some @arring tyler perry and some
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and patriots." you may remember that there were minorities and banned from a swimming pool. well, now, after tyler. senate all of those kids to disney world in a very generous gesture -- actor tyler perry. there is a reform bill that is badly needed in the usa. it is kind of pricey. look at this in south korea. boys, boys, ladies, ladies, no need for this. do not be pinheads. finally tonight, "bold fresh" again on the best-seller list. that makes 39 weeks. we thank you all. it makes a great vacation read. just do not get any sand on the pages. now, the big reaction to glenn beck throwing a little tantrum on the radio.
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hey, ted, you may not care that children are stripping for money in bars. you may not care, but millions of americans do, ted. some fresh air out there in aspen. well, you are welcome, sally. well, i appreciate that, phil. well, i am glad the book to review a little bit, -- i am glad the book diverted you a little bit, pat.
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